PTS Patch Notes v3.0.2

VoodooWasser

mNb still a poor Sorc as Pve DD.

dcam86b14_ESO

Magıc wrote: »

Loving these patch notes more and more. The top PVE guilds: Hodor/Aquila/G+G from EU + Mech from NA will adapt like usual and prove why they're the best in their regions and in the World.

PvP? Infinite sustain is gone. Thank ***.

who?

DCanadianBacon

Orbital wrote: »

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Juhasow wrote: »

Prive wrote: »

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Sorcerer

• Dark Magic
  • Crystal Fragments (Crystal Shard morph): Reduced the damage bonus of this morph’s instant-cast proc to 10% from 20%.
    Developer Comments:
    Sorcerer’s sustained damage in PvE and burst damage in PvP is currently too high, so reducing the damage bonus from Crystal Fragments brings them down slightly in both areas without being too punishing to the overall damage kit.

If you would play your own game, you would know that there will be 0 sorcs running crystal frags in PVE

Still every sorc will run it in PvE. Now it can hit even for 50k so You're saying everyone will unslot it because it'll hit max ~45k ?... Also crystal is skill from dark magic and provides 3% spell crit buff to whole group for 20 seconds from passive.

you will not have the resources to constantly weave forcepulse so it wont proc often, sorcs dont use this anymore

You know that there are 4 other skills on the bar to proc frags right? Every time people start up a rotation with Daedric Prey and the Unstable Familiar AoE, it has a chance to proc. That means you get an extra cheap 28k attack every 6 seconds in your rotation. In my tests, I proc at least 10-15 frags during a DPS test. People are still going to be using it just fine.

Qbiken

JonnytheKing wrote: »

Silky wrote: »

I really hope you guys are quick to respond when you realize how much of a disaster this is once the patch goes live.

How will it be a disaster ?
bring dps down so content in the game takes skill on sted of just button smashing
i think a lot of the changers are good and will help the game out a lot
people just cant look past it and see the big picture of what ZOS is trying to do

Yea, because burning down rahhkat in HM doesn´t take skill.......fml

Rjizzle09

Basically anyone who defends zos at this point or even remotely likes the natch potes everytime probably arent even playing the game fully. More than likely youre casually doing quests in your hybrid build that doesnt make sense. People who actually do content and hard achievments are the ones yoset right now and rightfully so. I dont understand if people want an easy game go back to skyrim and stop trying to make this game skyrim onlineXD

VelociousLegend

Disappointed with the lack of NB changes; magicka NB specifically.

There are plenty of good ideas and suggestions about mNB in this post:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/339529/magic-nightblade-megathread/p5

ZOS please read and consider some of these ideas. mNB is in a rough spot overall for both PvE and PvP.

Zeuq

Zvorgin wrote: »

Mustard wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

I am in shock.. ZERO changes to DK?

Guess they have they DK right where they want it.

In the trash?

MotokoKusanagi34

"We still have plenty time" "they're going to adjust things" "it's just PTS"

visionality

Grunim wrote: »

Delve daily quests acquired from Bolgrul in the Undaunted now award significantly more reputation.

Glad this is being buffed since 5 reputation is a very small amount. I wonder if significantly means 10 reputation instead of 5?

I'm sure it means 6 instead of 5 - that's 20% more

Paraflex

Well player feedback was a huge miss for this PTS3.

Mag sorcs and heavy Stam sorcs will be quite strong and proc sets never got touched.

It's going to be easy to see the complaints on the forums over the next few months.

They talk about balance and seeing the big picture but you completely miss on skills like dark conversion? Wow....

Peekachu99

Were people expecting radical changes? Cause it's not going to happen at this point.

ZOS_GinaBruno

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Champion System

• The Apprentice
  • Spell Erosion: Fixed an issue where this Champion passive was not functioning.
• The Ritual
  • Piercing: Fixed an issue where this Champion passive was not functioning.

Were these not functioning only during the recent PTS updates, or have they also not been working on live server?

This was only on the PTS.

Cêltic421

Luminous shards give back both resources again! I like that, it's the reason I went with luminous to begin with.

Still over a month away. Hopefully more changes like this will happen.

Oreyn_Bearclaw_Beta

I fail to see how this really nerfs the new HA meta. People still won't be able to sustain traditional rotations and on pure single target, this change is meaningless. What they really did was slow down out gauntlet times a bit.

The Uninvited

Joy_Division wrote: »

I don;t know why so many people are wondering why there are no DK changes, or why ZoS has not taken into account player feedback on resource sustain, or why there weren't very many changes at all in these notes.

How you not been playing attention to the PTS process? All we are going to get is minor tweaks and token changes because ZoS has never modified, let alone reverted, the core essence of a patch. Quite frankly I don;t even know why people mash their F5 key in anticipation of Patch Notes when they have been nothing more than a compendium of nerfs for at least the past year and I would argue all the way back to the Imperial city Patch. Indeed, it has come to the point where I dread ZoS's updates because despite their good intentions, they keep making the game worse and more frustrating to play.

So much truth here. After the first PTS patch it's only minor tweaks, so the only "minor tweak" we can now hope for is that they revert the changes to light/medium armor passives but I'm not betting on it.

UrbanMonk

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Champion System

• The Apprentice
  • Spell Erosion: Fixed an issue where this Champion passive was not functioning.
• The Ritual
  • Piercing: Fixed an issue where this Champion passive was not functioning.

Were these not functioning only during the recent PTS updates, or have they also not been working on live server?

This was only on the PTS.

Hi @ZOS_GinaBruno - any new on EU live server?

Tonnopesce

justsmurfitall wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Magister Makes a Move: Florinna Avau will now actually stay rescued once you rescue her.

According to Princess Peach, that is not how this works.

Maybe Mario is the bad guy...

BohnT

@ZOS_GinaBruno we see that you try to change things according to the feedback we provide but if we tell you over and over again how somethings kill balance entirely and you do nothing about it it is just plain useless to provide you any feedback at all. Please clarify if we'll see any balance changes to the following things

Dark conversion and morphs
Grim focus and morphs
Battle roar
Igneous shield
Vigor and morphs (mainly cost)
Endless Fury
Curse
Agony and morphs
Light/ Medium armor passives
Proc sets
Power extraction (the worst aoe in the game)
Equilibrium and morphs
Shieldstacking
Pirate Skeleton
Cleave
Snipe (in regards of usefulness dps wise)
Blur and morphs
Overall damage increase for: stamnb, stamplar, Stamdk, mag nb pve wise

Please answer this @ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_JessicaFolsom I don't need a long explanation just a short yes or no behind everything I listed above

Agalloch

This is a beginning process to kill the game....:((((

I still hope the devs to listen to the players feedback...

UrbanMonk

BohnT wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno we see that you try to change things according to the feedback we provide but if we tell you over and over again how somethings kill balance entirely and you do nothing about it it is just plain useless to provide you any feedback at all. Please clarify if we'll see any balance changes to the following things

Dark conversion and morphs
Grim focus and morphs
Battle roar
Igneous shield
Vigor and morphs (mainly cost)
Endless Fury
Curse
Agony and morphs
Light/ Medium armor passives
Proc sets
Power extraction (the worst aoe in the game)
Equilibrium and morphs
Shieldstacking
Pirate Skeleton
Cleave
Snipe (in regards of usefulness dps wise)
Blur and morphs
Overall damage increase for: stamnb, stamplar, Stamdk, mag nb pve wise

Please answer this @ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_JessicaFolsom I don't need a long explanation just a short yes or no behind everything I listed above

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Awesome collection here of some of the balance issues still to be answered...

Elsonso

Orbital wrote: »

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Juhasow wrote: »

Prive wrote: »

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Sorcerer

• Dark Magic
  • Crystal Fragments (Crystal Shard morph): Reduced the damage bonus of this morph’s instant-cast proc to 10% from 20%.
    Developer Comments:
    Sorcerer’s sustained damage in PvE and burst damage in PvP is currently too high, so reducing the damage bonus from Crystal Fragments brings them down slightly in both areas without being too punishing to the overall damage kit.

If you would play your own game, you would know that there will be 0 sorcs running crystal frags in PVE

Still every sorc will run it in PvE. Now it can hit even for 50k so You're saying everyone will unslot it because it'll hit max ~45k ?... Also crystal is skill from dark magic and provides 3% spell crit buff to whole group for 20 seconds from passive.

you will not have the resources to constantly weave forcepulse so it wont proc often, sorcs dont use this anymore

It still has the reduced cost instant cast, even if it does not proc as much. And, I might add, it should be proc'ed 35% of the time. It seems a whole lot more than that due to the weaving that this game requires.

Glamdring

No nerf to dark deal? And medium and light armour changes not reverted? Say hi to easy mode heavy armour stam sorcs....

MagnusBlackmane

Rjizzle09 wrote: »

Basically anyone who defends zos at this point or even remotely likes the natch potes everytime probably arent even playing the game fully. More than likely youre casually doing quests in your hybrid build that doesnt make sense. People who actually do content and hard achievments are the ones yoset right now and rightfully so. I dont understand if people want an easy game go back to skyrim and stop trying to make this game skyrim onlineXD

@Rjizzle09, funny thing is, I do believe that during release hype for ESO a lot of people wanted a Skyrim Online... they didn't deliver, the game got bashed. Now that devs are making good on "Skyrim Online" idea (or at least try hard to)... they get bashed. And yes I consider my self a casual ESO player at 2-4 hours of play a day max, playing it for fun and not for min/max number crunching.

Take a chill pill.

cschwingeb14_ESO

GhostyBrycicle wrote: »

Change Dark Deal to scale off of player level or revert DK helping hands back to scaling on max stat

That's already the way it is, both for Dark Exchange and Dark Deal. Both the heal and resource return are level based

Nichts

olsborg wrote: »

So leeching strikes has a duration of 20s, so when you kinda need better sustain you have to wait 20s for this to give back resources, since you also reduced the resource you get per light/heavy atk? How is this good in any way....I fail to see it.

Well this is another step in the direction: "We want that everyone can finish all content and it does not matter if you are skilled in this game or not.

jakowolf

Time test my main MDK , thinking about game it self why cant we have skyshard account bound long with lord books crafting , don't mind levelling up class it self loseing all achievement on new toon to much
same with pvp level make them all account bound it give player time play all class in game

Berenhir

BohnT wrote: »

Dark conversion and morphs
Grim focus and morphs
Battle roar
Igneous shield
Vigor and morphs (mainly cost)
Endless Fury
Curse
Agony and morphs
Light/ Medium armor passives
Proc sets
Power extraction (the worst aoe in the game)
Equilibrium and morphs
Shieldstacking
Pirate Skeleton
Cleave
Snipe (in regards of usefulness dps wise)
Blur and morphs
Overall damage increase for: stamnb, stamplar, Stamdk, mag nb pve wise

Dark conversion and morphs - No.
Grim focus and morphs No.
Battle roar Already addressed.
Igneous shield Already addressed.
Vigor and morphs (mainly cost) Already addressed.
Endless Fury No.
Curse Already addressed last patch.
Agony and morphs No.
Light/ Medium armor passives Already addressed.
Proc sets Already addressed last patch.
Power extraction (the worst aoe in the game) No.
Equilibrium and morphs No.
Shieldstacking Already addressed by overall cost increase.
Pirate Skeleton Already addressed.
Cleave No.
Snipe (in regards of usefulness dps wise) No.
Blur and morphs No.
Overall damage increase for: stamnb No. , stamplar No. , Stamdk There are no stamDKs anymore as of Patch 3.0.0. , mag nb pve wise MagNB are already the strongest class in all of their PvE DLC content, namely skyshard hunting in IC, all of DB and TG DLC.

NBrookus

Be patient, I said, it's always week #2 before we see class changes based on feedback. Riiiight.

What should I test this week? How good my DKs are at crafting?

rhapsodious

Anyone have a picture/information on the new Siphoning Attacks values? Dare I even ask?

Traybair_ESO

Pretty sure they are going to make staff heavy attack animations shorter and that is why they reduced the damage from tri-focus.