Azura's Star NA PC Thread PART 3

Heike

Rickter wrote: »

Hey guys im searching for some magicka templar builds for no CP PvP. right now, we're leaning towards rattlecage/lich but im willing to bet there are better options.

Would appreciate any and all suggestions. links to full build guides welcome!

I don't know many that are better than Rattle/Lich, for DPS. But, are you healing/enabling at all? What role? For group play, I love the sustain and survivability I get with heavy/impen Kags and Transmutation, with the Troll King set. I know that seems like old meta with Kags/Trans, but it works. I can still DPS (e.g., with Reflective Light) and swap and heal; double-dipping AP.

But, I mainly run heals.

I know Deltia just tested a new non-cp DPS build for Temps, that is kinda cool to base from.
You can find that here:
http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-pvp-templar-tank/

Hope that helps at all.

Rickter

Heike wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Hey guys im searching for some magicka templar builds for no CP PvP. right now, we're leaning towards rattlecage/lich but im willing to bet there are better options.

Would appreciate any and all suggestions. links to full build guides welcome!

I don't know many that are better than Rattle/Lich, for DPS. But, are you healing/enabling at all? What role? For group play, I love the sustain and survivability I get with heavy/impen Kags and Transmutation, with the Troll King set. I know that seems like old meta with Kags/Trans, but it works. I can still DPS (e.g., with Reflective Light) and swap and heal; double-dipping AP.

But, I mainly run heals.

I know Deltia just tested a new non-cp DPS build for Temps, that is kinda cool to base from.
You can find that here:
http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-pvp-templar-tank/

Hope that helps at all.

this is for a 50/50 kind of dps and healer build. this was helpful thank you!

apostate9

WhiteMage wrote: »

Is this a trial by combat? I volunteer to be someone's champion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPv2I-mArD8

NBrookus

Rickter wrote: »

Heike wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Hey guys im searching for some magicka templar builds for no CP PvP. right now, we're leaning towards rattlecage/lich but im willing to bet there are better options.

Would appreciate any and all suggestions. links to full build guides welcome!

I don't know many that are better than Rattle/Lich, for DPS. But, are you healing/enabling at all? What role? For group play, I love the sustain and survivability I get with heavy/impen Kags and Transmutation, with the Troll King set. I know that seems like old meta with Kags/Trans, but it works. I can still DPS (e.g., with Reflective Light) and swap and heal; double-dipping AP.

But, I mainly run heals.

I know Deltia just tested a new non-cp DPS build for Temps, that is kinda cool to base from.
You can find that here:
http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-pvp-templar-tank/

Hope that helps at all.

this is for a 50/50 kind of dps and healer build. this was helpful thank you!

Rattlecage/Transmutation/Skoria. Transmutation on back bar with your ritual, etc. and then I like destro front bar but you could do 2 piece torug's dual wield for more of a melee templar.

It's more of a small group (~4) build, but can still cope solo/zerg surfing.

Kartalin

NBrookus wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Heike wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Hey guys im searching for some magicka templar builds for no CP PvP. right now, we're leaning towards rattlecage/lich but im willing to bet there are better options.

Would appreciate any and all suggestions. links to full build guides welcome!

I don't know many that are better than Rattle/Lich, for DPS. But, are you healing/enabling at all? What role? For group play, I love the sustain and survivability I get with heavy/impen Kags and Transmutation, with the Troll King set. I know that seems like old meta with Kags/Trans, but it works. I can still DPS (e.g., with Reflective Light) and swap and heal; double-dipping AP.

But, I mainly run heals.

I know Deltia just tested a new non-cp DPS build for Temps, that is kinda cool to base from.
You can find that here:
http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-pvp-templar-tank/

Hope that helps at all.

this is for a 50/50 kind of dps and healer build. this was helpful thank you!

Rattlecage/Transmutation/Skoria. Transmutation on back bar with your ritual, etc. and then I like destro front bar but you could do 2 piece torug's dual wield for more of a melee templar.

It's more of a small group (~4) build, but can still cope solo/zerg surfing.

This is similar to what I do, but I swap Kags for Rattlecage because rez speed and use spell power pots for major sorcery. Immovable pots are the best choice with Rattlecage.

I also use Kags/Lich/Skoria, Kags/Rattlecage/Skoria, and Kags/Spell Power Cure/Skoria depending on other healers in group and the situation.

I have a more experimental build I'm running on my DC Templar which combines either Worm Cult and SPC or Worm Cult and Transmutation. It's 5 light so not nearly as tanky but this is supplemented by heavy reinforced pirate skeleton and mighty chudan pieces on head and shoulders. Resistances end up being about the same but with higher sustain and lower health. This is more for a 75 healer/25 dps build, otherwise I'm about 50-50 in our groups.

NBrookus

I was in Azuras for the first time in a while last night. I'm on the fence about whether Transmutation is worth it there since there's a lot less crit floating around.

Minno

NBrookus wrote: »

I was in Azuras for the first time in a while last night. I'm on the fence about whether Transmutation is worth it there since there's a lot less crit floating around.

Well that's because trans gives you a buff that equates to 4- 5 pieces of impen. You could get rid of your small pc impen traits and still not feel the crit burn.

Joshlenoir

Rickter wrote: »

Hey guys im searching for some magicka templar builds for no CP PvP. right now, we're leaning towards rattlecage/lich but im willing to bet there are better options.

would appreciate any and all suggestions. links to full build guides welcome!

Become my apprentice, I the God of Azuras Magplars, sh'all show you the way.

WhiteMage

Joshlenoir wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Hey guys im searching for some magicka templar builds for no CP PvP. right now, we're leaning towards rattlecage/lich but im willing to bet there are better options.

would appreciate any and all suggestions. links to full build guides welcome!

Become my apprentice, I the God of Azuras Magplars, sh'all show you the way.

Them's fighting words!

Prince_of_all_Pugs

making a wonderful surprise for my beloved DC and AD, will show soon!

Heike

Even though it was mainly Zerg v. Zerg last night, it was nice to see all 3 factions going at each other, and not just DC and EP pushing south against Roe and Allessia, respectively.

It's a lot more fun and advantageous when the Zerg battles are split evenly.

Magus

Heike wrote: »

Even though it was mainly Zerg v. Zerg last night, it was nice to see all 3 factions going at each other, and not just DC and EP pushing south against Roe and Allessia, respectively.

It's a lot more fun and advantageous when the Zerg battles are split evenly.

I agree, yesterday was a lot of fun. My group hit faregyl around 10:30 EST and kept about 50 AD busy enough to let an Ash siege happen. We eventually were overrun and we were able to get up to Ash to support the DC there. AD arrived from the Faregyl fight and we decided to support at Ash instead of Nikel because I scouted and saw you guys had already arrived at Ash, so we didn't get there fast enough to hold up AD at Ash gate. I don't think DC would have been able to take Ash without our reinforcements, AD had a really strong push on the siege line on inner but DC was able to win the battle of attrition. After that we went North and took Aleswell, Dragonclaw, and Bleakers but those were less defended than Ash - Ash was like a 50 DC vs 60 AD fight. Aleswell was a very fun fight too, very close to losing that offense, we were pretty much unsupported while the rest of DC held off AD from re-taking Ash.

Sixth

S/O to the 10 man group that came to a resource to take out my 3 man group after 20k of precious AP from the yellows

Sylphie

Sixth wrote: »

S/O to the 10 man group that came to a resource to take out my 3 man group after 20k of precious AP from the yellows

Welcome to smallscale pvp. Funnily enough, a lot of the times that my 2-3man gets zerged at a resource it's usually by a 8-16man guild group and not pugs.

Heike

Sixth wrote: »

S/O to the 10 man group that came to a resource to take out my 3 man group after 20k of precious AP from the yellows

1) 8 players is not a zerg.
2) You were at an AD castle. Did you expect them NOT to come?

Edit: Just noticed that some of these guys are IOTD; didn't even know they were still around. Interesting.

Heike

Sylphie wrote: »

Sixth wrote: »

S/O to the 10 man group that came to a resource to take out my 3 man group after 20k of precious AP from the yellows

...a lot of the times my 2-3 man [group] gets zerged at a resource, it's usually by a 8-16man guild group and not pugs.

Like Fengrush did tonight?
And CB's did tonight?
And TM did tonight?
And LoDG? Like they did tonight...?

Most resources nowadays are taken by guild groups of 5-10, sweeping transient or reclaiming quickly.

DC's only mistake tonight, was having all 4 guilds at Allessia, and losing Nickel, Ash, Aleswell and Warden in the process of farming.

Heike

Magus wrote: »

Heike wrote: »

Even though it was mainly Zerg v. Zerg last night, it was nice to see all 3 factions going at each other, and not just DC and EP pushing south against Roe and Allessia, respectively.

It's a lot more fun and advantageous when the Zerg battles are split evenly.

...Aleswell was a very fun fight too...

Aleswell is always a fantastic fight; I don't know of a better, or more intriguing, fort to hit and/or defend! Those massive stairs, and the mine.
Or the rocks off to the West, much like Glademist, can get interesting rather quickly.

And, oddly enough, when I've either crowned RoB or ran solo at an attack, I don't see many zergs there; usually groups of 15-20 max.

Also, strangely enough, @usmcjdking usually meets me there and sends me along on a pony ride, after we catch up... lol

I love Aleswell.

Sixth

Heike wrote: »

Sixth wrote: »

S/O to the 10 man group that came to a resource to take out my 3 man group after 20k of precious AP from the yellows

1) 8 players is not a zerg.
2) You were at an AD castle. Did you expect them NOT to come?

Edit: Just noticed that some of these guys are IOTD; didn't even know they were still around. Interesting.

Usually when people are farming resources on DC side, I'll say in zone chat: "Can i get 1-2 people at _____ to help me with these farmers"

And there was 10, Miats doesn't get a big radius, gotta count for them AD snipers 50 feet away

WhiteMage

Sixth wrote: »

And there was 10, Miats doesn't get a big radius, gotta count for them AD snipers 50 feet away

You know they're there. They're always there... Jason.

Sixth

WhiteMage wrote: »

Sixth wrote: »

And there was 10, Miats doesn't get a big radius, gotta count for them AD snipers 50 feet away

You know they're there. They're always there... Jason.

Gotta account for them, if you see 1 AD player theres gonna be 5 snipers in stealth

Sixth

Sixth wrote: »

WhiteMage wrote: »

Sixth wrote: »

And there was 10, Miats doesn't get a big radius, gotta count for them AD snipers 50 feet away

You know they're there. They're always there... Jason.

Gotta account for them, if you see 1 AD player theres gonna be 5 snipers in stealth, NARM

Sylphie

Heike wrote: »

2) You were at an AD castle. Did you expect them NOT to come?

I don't know about some people but if I try to avoid Xv1ing/outnumbering people unless they engaged first or they have previously Xv1'd me. That's because I know it's a pain riding halfway across the map to solo or duo a resource, just to get encased destro ulti bombed by some 8-10 man group. I also don't see the fun in winning a fight when you're given a major advantage.

Heike wrote: »

Like Fengrush did tonight?
And CB's did tonight?
And TM did tonight?
And LoDG? Like they did tonight...?

Most resources nowadays are taken by guild groups of 5-10, sweeping transient or reclaiming quickly.

DC's only mistake tonight, was having all 4 guilds at Allessia, and losing Nickel, Ash, Aleswell and Warden in the process of farming.

I'm not sure what you're trying to point out with this post.

technohic

When complaining about getting zerged down or outnumbered; can anyone really say they have never done it? I mean; when I am in a group and we see something is under attack, we don't know how many are there, and 10 or so players is not a large group to where we would split up and just send a scout to take a look first, and thats a waste of time anyway. You just go and whatevers there you deal with it.

I think people get caught up with some idea that they have to "small scale" to be good and then get all bent when most people just play the map and kill on site. Largest group Ive been on lately is 7 players and I can tell you we get ran over by 20+ a lot, but we also have lots of times where our faction shows up once we flag something and then we are running people over with 30+ with the pugs that show up where they see a burst or cross swords. That's just Cyrodiil.

Mihael

Don't complain about ad sending 10 people lol dc and ep do the same thing thing and you should be thankful it was only 10 because usually dc and ep send full raids and I'm sure ad does too. And true ad has tons of snipers but dc always has them proc sets at the ready. Either it's the cancer wanna be fengrush tremor scale viper noobs or the wanna be Essah viper red mountain templars lol

Sixth

technohic wrote: »

When complaining about getting zerged down or outnumbered; can anyone really say they have never done it? I mean; when I am in a group and we see something is under attack, we don't know how many are there, and 10 or so players is not a large group to where we would split up and just send a scout to take a look first, and thats a waste of time anyway. You just go and whatevers there you deal with it.

I think people get caught up with some idea that they have to "small scale" to be good and then get all bent when most people just play the map and kill on site. Largest group Ive been on lately is 7 players and I can tell you we get ran over by 20+ a lot, but we also have lots of times where our faction shows up once we flag something and then we are running people over with 30+ with the pugs that show up where they see a burst or cross swords. That's just Cyrodiil.

I do both things, I'll Zerg if I wanna play with my friends and I'll run solo if I'm just having fun. Both play styles are fun and I don't know why everyone can't get along about it lol

Sixth

Mihael wrote: »

Don't complain about ad sending 10 people lol dc and ep do the same thing thing and you should be thankful it was only 10 because usually dc and ep send full raids and I'm sure ad does too. And true ad has tons of snipers but dc always has them proc sets at the ready. Either it's the cancer wanna be fengrush tremor scale viper noobs or the wanna be Essah viper red mountain templars lol

. That's why I had to drop double proc sets, gives away all creditably lmao

ImSnowman

Joshlenoir wrote: »

If anyone wants to waste 9 minutes and 20 seconds of their life watch a nice little group PvP compilation of my guild and I wrecking noobs in Cyrodiil in 2-5 man groups

https://youtu.be/W-5Lb3fEr44

Ill waste my 9 minutes if you waste your 7 minutes :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFAvO-Hn3mA

Sixth

ImSnowman wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

If anyone wants to waste 9 minutes and 20 seconds of their life watch a nice little group PvP compilation of my guild and I wrecking noobs in Cyrodiil in 2-5 man groups

https://youtu.be/W-5Lb3fEr44

Ill waste my 9 minutes if you waste your 7 minutes :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFAvO-Hn3mA

i hate ur dragonknight FYI

ImSnowman

Ill waste my 9 minutes if you waste your 7 minutes :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFAvO-Hn3mA[/quote]

i hate ur dragonknight FYI [/quote]

:P

Minno

technohic wrote: »

When complaining about getting zerged down or outnumbered; can anyone really say they have never done it? I mean; when I am in a group and we see something is under attack, we don't know how many are there, and 10 or so players is not a large group to where we would split up and just send a scout to take a look first, and thats a waste of time anyway. You just go and whatevers there you deal with it.

I think people get caught up with some idea that they have to "small scale" to be good and then get all bent when most people just play the map and kill on site. Largest group Ive been on lately is 7 players and I can tell you we get ran over by 20+ a lot, but we also have lots of times where our faction shows up once we flag something and then we are running people over with 30+ with the pugs that show up where they see a burst or cross swords. That's just Cyrodiil.

I try to stand down, unless my fellow DC are having a bit of trouble (tanks).

I've even had one DC yell at me once "why you not help?"
I'm like "dude it's you versus another player and you both had that fight in the bag." #earnit

But I get that blood lust from time to time.