Would you like a "normal" skin to hide vampirism?

PS4_ZeColmeia

Yes

I voted yes because everything I have, ie pact markings, don't work once I rezone if I'm a vampire. Fix that or let me hide it so I can enjoy my pixels.

Bringer

No

Vampires are cute i want to see them all :^)
Tattoos and stuff is a problem they aught to fix though.

Gabrielzavadski

Yes

Dolfymoo wrote: »

Last time i checked, vampires are undead. When was the last time you saw an undead 10/10 would bang IGN?

Give me proofs that in The Elder Scrolls series, a vampire is a undead creature...

I can give proofs that they AREN'T, more than one, and strong ones, the only thing you can give me as proof is in-game npc's calling them undead for no reason, Bethesda and Zenimax lore designers categorizing them as undead, as well as in-game spell tham reveals undead creatures revealing vampires. But there are 5x times more strong proofs that they aren't undead...

WalksonGraves

Yes

Gabrielzavadski wrote: »

Dolfymoo wrote: »

Last time i checked, vampires are undead. When was the last time you saw an undead 10/10 would bang IGN?

Give me proofs that in The Elder Scrolls series, a vampire is a undead creature...

I can give proofs that they AREN'T, more than one, and strong ones, the only thing you can give me as proof is in-game npc's calling them undead for no reason, Bethesda and Zenimax lore designers categorizing them as undead, as well as in-game spell tham reveals undead creatures revealing vampires. But there are 5x times more strong proofs that they aren't undead...

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

coop500

I don't care

I voted for I don't care, because for my one messing around accidental vampire, she wears those outfits you use in quests to blend in with bandits or such.

buttt I do not support this "you chose to be a vampire live with the drawbacks!" People act like the looks are the only drawback, when there is a nice chunk of weakness to fire and slow HP regan, that's real drawbacks, the looks should not count like they effect the game. You don't have to use the skin if the devs add it, let people be pretty vampires if they want, it's not hurting anyone so why do these people feel the need to force their opinion on everyone else when it effects them in no way?

QuebraRegra

Yes

yup... should be an "option" under game options, or at the very least an option when using a costume.

QuebraRegra

Yes

Gabrielzavadski wrote: »

Dolfymoo wrote: »

Last time i checked, vampires are undead. When was the last time you saw an undead 10/10 would bang IGN?

Give me proofs that in The Elder Scrolls series, a vampire is a undead creature...

I can give proofs that they AREN'T, more than one, and strong ones, the only thing you can give me as proof is in-game npc's calling them undead for no reason, Bethesda and Zenimax lore designers categorizing them as undead, as well as in-game spell tham reveals undead creatures revealing vampires. But there are 5x times more strong proofs that they aren't undead...

they were not dead... they just suffer from "Porphyric hemophilia" according to OBLIVION

QuebraRegra

Yes

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Iliaz wrote: »

Gameplay and charachter skill proggression are not equal to your character creation/looks. End of story. Period.

Hang on.

Being a Vampire has game-play and skill impacts; is is NOT just about looks.

Now, if being a vampire DIDN'T affect skills or game-play I'd be totally happy with you having a toggle for cosmetic effect, because being a Vampire would be a purely cosmetic / RP choice.

But it isn't.

It really is simple, if you don't want to look like a vampire go talk to a Priest of Arkay.

All The Best

Skins. Skins hide it. They already exist in-game so why not add different variants of vampire skin? You're argument is invalid.

disguises hide it as well... because disguised! Like no vampire ever hid the fact they were a vampire?!?!?!

Dr.NRG

Yes

its annoying too cause you can barly see tattoos when vamp. id pay allot of crowns for that kinda skin lol

geonsocal

I don't care

eso needs to get with the times...the day of the pale looking nosferatu vampire has come and gone...


our vamps should all be looking like this

Shadowasrial

Yes

I would like to point out that lord harken from skyrim and his daughter both looked human just pale. Not all veiny

forwardbias83

There is a way you can hide the effect of being a vampire...

I remember when I could wear [Courier Uniform] that you get from a quest, it gives you the look of wearing the jute, imperial light armor robe set. And I still looked like a vampire. But around the Dark Brotherhood update, those quest disguise items hide the visuals of being a vampire and your skin color, body hair, tattoos revert to the way you were before being a vampire. However collection items from the crown store and holiday events, like [Nordic Bather's Towel] do not hide the effects of being a vampire. I happen to like the pale look, and sent in a ticket, but that was months ago. Not sure if it is a bug, or intended, but quest disguise items will hide the visual effects of being a vampire.

Screenshot from before Dark Brotherhood
http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/forwardbias83/media/01_zpskvr81ll0.png.html

Nordic Bather's Towel
http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/forwardbias83/media/02_zpsgvsigser.png.html

Courier Uniform after Dark Brotherhood
http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/forwardbias83/media/03_zps56tdxst0.png.html

Floki_Vilgerdarson

Yes

Zos this could be a big $$$ crown store $$$ skin to sell. Hmmmm

Surak73

No

No. I'm proud of my vampire look.

Gabrielzavadski

Yes

WalksonGraves wrote: »

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

I'm not, developers categorize vampires in this game as undead, and the only thing that supports this is a spell from the offline games that detects dead critters, detecting vampires...

"But, according to the TES games: Vampires have souls; they have the same ("good quality") flesh as living humans have; They can have children, that MAY have vampiric characterístics; they aren't necessarily bad people who are crazy for human blood; They can eat normal food as humans do, but it won't do nothing about the vampirism stages; And they can be "cured", in which by itself proves they are living people."

And with that information I say that: they are only blessed by Molag Bal, gaining "undead-like" powers, that halts aging, and allows things like extra agility, strengh, cold resistance, etc... also changing their main food source: humans, blood.;

"And about that ritual that Falion makes with a Black Soul Gem... Molag Bal's blessing automatically binds your soul to Coldharbour, so the only way to unbind it it's to offer another soul to the daedra, releasing their grasp from your soul, but removing entirely it's daedric powers from the cured vampire. And for proof that the black soul gem isn't your new soul, and your original soul is lost, it's that the Last Dragonborn is still dragonborn after (and before) being cured."

All that information is from the offline games, not anywere else. All being canon to the lore.

QuebraRegra wrote: »

they were not dead... they just suffer from "Porphyric hemophilia" according to OBLIVION

Exactly, it's just a disease... or blessing, but on one way or the other, a curse.

Dracane

No

Having access to the most overpowered and broken passive in the game (Undeath) should at least come at a little cost which is looking horrible.

Xundiin

Yes

Gabrielzavadski wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

I'm not, developers categorize vampires in this game as undead, and the only thing that supports this is a spell from the offline games that detects dead critters, detecting vampires...

"But, according to the TES games: Vampires have souls; they have the same ("good quality") flesh as living humans have; They can have children, that MAY have vampiric characterístics; they aren't necessarily bad people who are crazy for human blood; They can eat normal food as humans do, but it won't do nothing about the vampirism stages; And they can be "cured", in which by itself proves they are living people."

And with that information I say that: they are only blessed by Molag Bal, gaining "undead-like" powers, that halts aging, and allows things like extra agility, strengh, cold resistance, etc... also changing their main food source: humans, blood.;

"And about that ritual that Falion makes with a Black Soul Gem... Molag Bal's blessing automatically binds your soul to Coldharbour, so the only way to unbind it it's to offer another soul to the daedra, releasing their grasp from your soul, but removing entirely it's daedric powers from the cured vampire. And for proof that the black soul gem isn't your new soul, and your original soul is lost, it's that the Last Dragonborn is still dragonborn after (and before) being cured."

All that information is from the offline games, not anywere else. All being canon to the lore.

QuebraRegra wrote: »

they were not dead... they just suffer from "Porphyric hemophilia" according to OBLIVION

Exactly, it's just a disease... or blessing, but on one way or the other, a curse.

Except when Falion does the ritual to cure vampirism, he says "bring life back to this creature!"

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Skyrim:_Undead
Notice Vampires are on there.

"Um, yeah, they're undead. I'm guessing you haven't played Daggerall, since there's a story in it that goes into great detail of a knight who caught vampirism, died, was buried, and then reborn. The disease kills you. Harkon kills you. You just comeback to life to spite Arkay. Considering literally everyone in game also says your a corpse, the fact that the ritual is called to bring deadflesh back to life, the Soul Cairn recognizes you as dead, and the fact that it involves Molag Bal, all point to the fact that vampirism kills." -Br3admax

Skyrim was the first game to split the detection spell in multiple versions. Morrowind it was just Detect Creatures, which detected every thing. Oblivion it was called detect life... which worked on Zombies, Ghosts, and Skeletons.

So, yes they are undead.

WalksonGraves

Yes

Dracane wrote: »

Having access to the most overpowered and broken passive in the game (Undeath) should at least come at a little cost which is looking horrible.

Broken? You serious?

So it works like this, you get hit at
49% hp you get 1% dr
25% you get 15%
1% hp you get <30%

and it only happens if you get hit at those ranges. Now consider the 0.25 fire damage multiplier.

bloodthirstyvampire

I don't care

My vampire looks good at all stages, mind you if they added it i would take it, as i will take any vampire related crown items

bloodthirstyvampire

I don't care

Cadbury wrote: »

Though the look could use a revamp...

Ha i see what you did there

Balamoor

No

No but I do think they should be flagged for PVP in towns.

Vindold

Yes

I think 'Vamp skin' should be toggleable..sort of an illusion to hide your true nature...this option will suit everyone.

Shgon_Dunstan

Yes

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

You want the powers that a vampire has? well you are gonna get the look! an advantage for a disadvantage haha!

I agree though the Tattoos could be more prominent on the skin of the vampire, as I find them too faded to see, I do like the tinge of purple though which is pretty nice.

But other than this there is no need for a *skin* or a *gloss over* on the vampire look. Like I have said before, you decided to become undead to get the powers of the vamp, your going to have to sacrifice the way you look.

That might fly for stage 4, but stage 1 at least should still look fairly normal.

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

Some vampires in the TES lore have a spell who hide their real face to the world. I would love to have such a spell in ESO, probably a collectible but a skill who last long is okay too. If it imply that pnj won't talk to us without this effect (at state 4 especially), so be it.

Beside, I would love to see the real color of my tattoo. The skin and eyes are fine, the tattoo are not.

Tattoos fade as flesh decays. Once the semi permenent layer is gone the ink will dissappear (hence why you never see a properly tattooed mummified corpse and tattooing being centuries old) true story. In short you foul rotten (literally) scum can't have proper tattoos.

... "Tattoos fade as flesh decays" is kind of irreverent if A. you get said tattoo after you become a vampire, and B. vamps only decay to a certain point... If you'd even call what they do "decay".

zaria

No

Xundiin wrote: »

Gabrielzavadski wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

I'm not, developers categorize vampires in this game as undead, and the only thing that supports this is a spell from the offline games that detects dead critters, detecting vampires...

"But, according to the TES games: Vampires have souls; they have the same ("good quality") flesh as living humans have; They can have children, that MAY have vampiric characterístics; they aren't necessarily bad people who are crazy for human blood; They can eat normal food as humans do, but it won't do nothing about the vampirism stages; And they can be "cured", in which by itself proves they are living people."

And with that information I say that: they are only blessed by Molag Bal, gaining "undead-like" powers, that halts aging, and allows things like extra agility, strengh, cold resistance, etc... also changing their main food source: humans, blood.;

"And about that ritual that Falion makes with a Black Soul Gem... Molag Bal's blessing automatically binds your soul to Coldharbour, so the only way to unbind it it's to offer another soul to the daedra, releasing their grasp from your soul, but removing entirely it's daedric powers from the cured vampire. And for proof that the black soul gem isn't your new soul, and your original soul is lost, it's that the Last Dragonborn is still dragonborn after (and before) being cured."

All that information is from the offline games, not anywere else. All being canon to the lore.

QuebraRegra wrote: »

they were not dead... they just suffer from "Porphyric hemophilia" according to OBLIVION

Exactly, it's just a disease... or blessing, but on one way or the other, a curse.

Except when Falion does the ritual to cure vampirism, he says "bring life back to this creature!"

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Skyrim:_Undead
Notice Vampires are on there.

"Um, yeah, they're undead. I'm guessing you haven't played Daggerall, since there's a story in it that goes into great detail of a knight who caught vampirism, died, was buried, and then reborn. The disease kills you. Harkon kills you. You just comeback to life to spite Arkay. Considering literally everyone in game also says your a corpse, the fact that the ritual is called to bring deadflesh back to life, the Soul Cairn recognizes you as dead, and the fact that it involves Molag Bal, all point to the fact that vampirism kills." -Br3admax

Skyrim was the first game to split the detection spell in multiple versions. Morrowind it was just Detect Creatures, which detected every thing. Oblivion it was called detect life... which worked on Zombies, Ghosts, and Skeletons.

So, yes they are undead.

In Daggerfall you woke up in an tomb after becoming vampire

ookami007

Yes

Yah... their implementation of vamps is silly. So many story lines in the games have vamps living among people unnoticed... which is COMPLETELY unlikely if there that much difference in skin tone and look. People would INSTANTLY recognize them.

Not to mention... in a world of magic, you'd think there'd be some super simply illusion spell to change your appearance.

Shgon_Dunstan

Yes

ookami007 wrote: »

Yah... their implementation of vamps is silly. So many story lines in the games have vamps living among people unnoticed... which is COMPLETELY unlikely if there that much difference in skin tone and look. People would INSTANTLY recognize them.

Not to mention... in a world of magic, you'd think there'd be some super simply illusion spell to change your appearance.

Even the most normal looking vamp in the games tends to at least have red eyes or the like... Save for that one red guard woman NPC at that sword training school... Even with all the other vamp NPCs in ESO looking like vamps, for some reason she just doesn't.


To be fair though... Most in ESO aren't so much "unnoticed" so much as "tolerated". Just being a vamp doesn't always make people reach for the pitchforks in TES.

sekou_trayvond

In the same vein, I have a fat toon. Could I get a thin skin, please?

Nyghthowler

Yes

I would be happy with the current Vampire look if they would just make the damned ink stay dark black in the tattoos. Ink doesn't fade just because the melanin fades out of the skin!