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Would you like a "normal" skin to hide vampirism?

  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    No
    Iliaz wrote: »
    Gameplay and charachter skill proggression are not equal to your character creation/looks. End of story. Period.

    Hang on.

    Being a Vampire has game-play and skill impacts; is is NOT just about looks.

    Now, if being a vampire DIDN'T affect skills or game-play I'd be totally happy with you having a toggle for cosmetic effect, because being a Vampire would be a purely cosmetic / RP choice.

    But it isn't.

    It really is simple, if you don't want to look like a vampire go talk to a Priest of Arkay.

    All The Best
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    Is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worse.
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Yes
    Iliaz wrote: »
    Gameplay and charachter skill proggression are not equal to your character creation/looks. End of story. Period.

    Hang on.

    Being a Vampire has game-play and skill impacts; is is NOT just about looks.

    Now, if being a vampire DIDN'T affect skills or game-play I'd be totally happy with you having a toggle for cosmetic effect, because being a Vampire would be a purely cosmetic / RP choice.

    But it isn't.

    It really is simple, if you don't want to look like a vampire go talk to a Priest of Arkay.

    All The Best

    Skins. Skins hide it. They already exist in-game so why not add different variants of vampire skin? You're argument is invalid.
    Edited by Bobby_V_Rockit on April 27, 2017 11:20AM
  • ParaNostram
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    Yes
    At the very least stop making markings muted!
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  • Rickter
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    No
    If you want to hide your vampirism - sounds like you want all the benefits and none of the negatives. Embrace your dark gift and accept that you are now amoungst the eternal undeath. Hell i'd like to see MORE vampirism! where are my fangs?!
    Edited by Rickter on April 27, 2017 11:30AM
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  • notimetocare
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    No
    Iliaz wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Seems kinda unfair that effectively character creation is thrown out the window when you become a vamp. Keep the skin and eye color, just give me back my tattoos

    I want my character's beautiful green eyes back as well. I kinda like the pale skin....until I notice all the veins in it even at Stage 1. And I want her makeup not to be faded away to nothing.

    Here's vampire Morna:
    uK3b4Lh.png

    And here's Morna in her mortal guise:
    oQJL49I.png

    I wold kill for her actual makeup and eye color with a skin somewhere in between these two extremes. And no veins!

    Though I will admit that, in the right lighting, vampires can be quite lovely:

    COjGIci.png

    no, either all or nothing. I chose to play a dunmer for the dark skin, and i want that back, i could't give a single damn about the eyes and the veins, i just want my dark skin back.

    Easy fix, cure it
    Iliaz wrote: »
    Gameplay and charachter skill proggression are not equal to your character creation/looks. End of story. Period.

    Hang on.

    Being a Vampire has game-play and skill impacts; is is NOT just about looks.

    Now, if being a vampire DIDN'T affect skills or game-play I'd be totally happy with you having a toggle for cosmetic effect, because being a Vampire would be a purely cosmetic / RP choice.

    But it isn't.

    It really is simple, if you don't want to look like a vampire go talk to a Priest of Arkay.

    All The Best

    Skins. Skins hide it. They already exist in-game so why not add different variants of vampire skin? You're argument is invalid.

    Good point, let's ban skins in pvp
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Yes
    Iliaz wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Seems kinda unfair that effectively character creation is thrown out the window when you become a vamp. Keep the skin and eye color, just give me back my tattoos

    I want my character's beautiful green eyes back as well. I kinda like the pale skin....until I notice all the veins in it even at Stage 1. And I want her makeup not to be faded away to nothing.

    Here's vampire Morna:
    uK3b4Lh.png

    And here's Morna in her mortal guise:
    oQJL49I.png

    I wold kill for her actual makeup and eye color with a skin somewhere in between these two extremes. And no veins!

    Though I will admit that, in the right lighting, vampires can be quite lovely:

    COjGIci.png

    no, either all or nothing. I chose to play a dunmer for the dark skin, and i want that back, i could't give a single damn about the eyes and the veins, i just want my dark skin back.

    Easy fix, cure it
    Iliaz wrote: »
    Gameplay and charachter skill proggression are not equal to your character creation/looks. End of story. Period.

    Hang on.

    Being a Vampire has game-play and skill impacts; is is NOT just about looks.

    Now, if being a vampire DIDN'T affect skills or game-play I'd be totally happy with you having a toggle for cosmetic effect, because being a Vampire would be a purely cosmetic / RP choice.

    But it isn't.

    It really is simple, if you don't want to look like a vampire go talk to a Priest of Arkay.

    All The Best

    Skins. Skins hide it. They already exist in-game so why not add different variants of vampire skin? You're argument is invalid.

    Good point, let's ban skins in pvp

    I agree with that actually, skins should be hidden in PvP.
  • akl77
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    Yes
    Too many pale ghosts around
    Pc na
  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    No
    Iliaz wrote: »
    Gameplay and charachter skill proggression are not equal to your character creation/looks. End of story. Period.

    Hang on.

    Being a Vampire has game-play and skill impacts; is is NOT just about looks.

    Now, if being a vampire DIDN'T affect skills or game-play I'd be totally happy with you having a toggle for cosmetic effect, because being a Vampire would be a purely cosmetic / RP choice.

    But it isn't.

    It really is simple, if you don't want to look like a vampire go talk to a Priest of Arkay.

    All The Best

    Skins. Skins hide it. They already exist in-game so why not add different variants of vampire skin? You're argument is invalid.

    Well, if skins can already hide it the whole thread is invalid, especially the opening post.

    I was thinking about this though, and if as several people have claimed being a Vamp is just about the look / the character creation process, surely the obvious answer is to put the various Stage Skins in the Store as pure cosmetics. That way if you don't want to look like a Vampire, don't be one; but if you want to look like a Vampire purely for cosmetic reasons you can.

    All The Best
    Those memories come back to haunt me, they haunt me like a curse.
    Is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worse.
  • FelixTheCatt
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    I don't care
    I'd rather the vamps and WW just be given a little attention to freshen things up a bit. Tbh I've never really felt like a vampire even though I've been one since just after Ps4 launch. No immersion so I never really "feel" like a vampire other than experiencing weakness to fire. I'm not the game expert so don't really have any fixes for that myself just seems something needs done.
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  • WalksonGraves
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    Yes
    I just hate the all white argonian/khajiit. It sucks the individuality right out of the character.
  • Gabrielzavadski
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    Yes
    I remember playing TES V with vampirism, and it had (not sure if was a mod) a spell that "hid" your vampirism, so that with higher stages of hunger, you would still look human.

    Maybe ZOS should add a useless buff that hides vampirism for people who dislike looking like a vampire, bit allowed itself to be biten nonetheless.
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  • Cêltic421
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    My tank is a vampire but does not look like one at all. He's wearing the Mazzatun skin so that may be covering up the vampirism.
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    No
    I want to be a furless werewolf so I can still see my tattoos and be generally wolfy without the fleas.

    I also want werewolves to be able to pick locks, break cc, and hold weapons, just like vampires can.

    In fact, all drawbacks to a voluntary skill line should be toggled options. If you volunteer to be a child of the night, it doesn't mean you should have to give something up in exchange for getting something else.
    Fear is the Mindkiller
  • WalksonGraves
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    Yes
    I want to be a furless werewolf so I can still see my tattoos and be generally wolfy without the fleas.

    I also want werewolves to be able to pick locks, break cc, and hold weapons, just like vampires can.

    In fact, all drawbacks to a voluntary skill line should be toggled options. If you volunteer to be a child of the night, it doesn't mean you should have to give something up in exchange for getting something else.

    Werewolves can't use stam to break free? That seems odd. I didn't think being a werewolf altered your characters appearance either.
  • Violynne
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    No
    You want the powers that a vampire has? well you are gonna get the look! an advantage for a disadvantage haha!

    I agree though the Tattoos could be more prominent on the skin of the vampire, as I find them too faded to see, I do like the tinge of purple though which is pretty nice.

    But other than this there is no need for a *skin* or a *gloss over* on the vampire look. Like I have said before, you decided to become undead to get the powers of the vamp, your going to have to sacrifice the way you look. ;)

    You forgot to close properly:

    *drop mic /thread

    Your last sentence pretty much closes the conversation, regardless what the OP wants.

    :wink:
  • idk
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    No
    I want to be a furless werewolf so I can still see my tattoos and be generally wolfy without the fleas.

    I also want werewolves to be able to pick locks, break cc, and hold weapons, just like vampires can.

    In fact, all drawbacks to a voluntary skill line should be toggled options. If you volunteer to be a child of the night, it doesn't mean you should have to give something up in exchange for getting something else.

    Werewolves can't use stam to break free? That seems odd. I didn't think being a werewolf altered your characters appearance either.

    Being a WW significantly alters the appearance of a character when their in form. Their normally not in form and also normally get zero benefit from the line.

    The difference is vamps are always in form and always get benefits and thus always look like a vamp.

    There are numerous skins and disguises already in the game that hide vampirism so this really isn't needed. More importantly, Zos should make it so discussed and skins do not hide vampirism. Not hiding the helm also hides vampirism.
  • Runschei
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    I don't care
    Iliaz wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Seems kinda unfair that effectively character creation is thrown out the window when you become a vamp. Keep the skin and eye color, just give me back my tattoos

    I want my character's beautiful green eyes back as well. I kinda like the pale skin....until I notice all the veins in it even at Stage 1. And I want her makeup not to be faded away to nothing.

    Here's vampire Morna:
    uK3b4Lh.png

    And here's Morna in her mortal guise:
    oQJL49I.png

    I wold kill for her actual makeup and eye color with a skin somewhere in between these two extremes. And no veins!

    Though I will admit that, in the right lighting, vampires can be quite lovely:

    COjGIci.png

    no, either all or nothing. I chose to play a dunmer for the dark skin, and i want that back, i could't give a single damn about the eyes and the veins, i just want my dark skin back.

    Easy fix, cure it
    Iliaz wrote: »
    Gameplay and charachter skill proggression are not equal to your character creation/looks. End of story. Period.

    Hang on.

    Being a Vampire has game-play and skill impacts; is is NOT just about looks.

    Now, if being a vampire DIDN'T affect skills or game-play I'd be totally happy with you having a toggle for cosmetic effect, because being a Vampire would be a purely cosmetic / RP choice.

    But it isn't.

    It really is simple, if you don't want to look like a vampire go talk to a Priest of Arkay.

    All The Best

    Skins. Skins hide it. They already exist in-game so why not add different variants of vampire skin? You're argument is invalid.

    Good point, let's ban skins in pvp

    I agree with that actually, skins should be hidden in PvP.

    For what reason? An enemy player will know if his or her opponent is a vampire (or werewolf for that matter) because any bufftracker will show it. Besides, why do you need to know if you're facing a vampire or werewolf? Do you really change your skills based on who you're fighting? Even without bufftrackers you'll find out when the vampire pops bat swarm or mist. Or if the werewolf transforms. But if the werewolf doesn't transform you won't know he is one, meaning you don't know if he or she has 15% stamina regen on the bar the ultimate is slotted :o
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Yes
    I don't really care because even if they add some skin to hide vampirism it wouldn't be cheap and will be crowns only. I know them too well.
  • Lavennin
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    No
    Instead 1) fix tattoo display 2) make stage 1 appears slightly more normal so it makes sense none recognizes your vampirism, or make this a passive skill

    A skin is just too easy.
  • Tasear
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    Yes
    Just saying some vampires are hiding so why can't we. Maybe a new vampire quest to hid among humans. But I do miss my mortal look :'(
  • FloppyTouch
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    Yes
    I like the look of vamp but as this does nothing to me or affect me in anyway sure why not
  • altemriel
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    Yes
    yes please!!
  • ScytheNL
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    No
    I say let them have their skin. Only it's a complicated, expensive magical skin that uses 25% of their Magicka and Stamina as long as they wear it.
    Ingame:
    Ezekiel Zakriah, Redguard Nightblade

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  • Rygonix
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    No
    My character has been a vampire for so long that the skin has become a part of him and how much he has..changed since becoming infected. Vampires that truly value what they have become need not hide it, but to truly embrace it and the gifts it bestows.
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  • Knootewoot
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    No
    No,

    You choose to be vampire and be part of the family. You want to hide your heritage? Better leave the family and stay a mortal or become one of those smelly dogs.
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • Simaris
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    No
    I just want them to fix tattoos, scars and fur/scale patterns so they don't become completely washed out. We can use tattoos and scars to identify a dead body because they don't just fade into oblivion (no pun intended), so why does it happen to an undead vampire?

    But I don't want a skin to cover it. I just want my tattoos and scars to look like tattoos and scars again :'(
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  • lunalitetempler
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    Yes
    I'd like an option, those that want to keep it can by all means.
  • Shadow_Viper_vX
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    No
    If you don't want to look like a vampire, don't become a vampire.

    That simple

    No changed needed

    [SNIp]

    [Edited for bait]
    Edited by ZOS_JohanaB on April 28, 2017 1:13PM
  • Zorgon_The_Revenged
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    I don't care
    Could have been worse...you could have looked like the father.
  • MornaBaine
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    Yes
    Considering the $$$ ZoS will make if they just do this as a cash shop item I'm actually a little stunned it still hasn't happened.
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