Would you like a "normal" skin to hide vampirism?

AnviOfVai

No

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

IMO you should not be able to hide being a Vamp- if you want the benefits you have to take the consequences too. However, I would like to see the look of being a Vamp redone and made to look like an actual Vamp and not a sickly zombie

The sickly zombie is only shown if you don't drink..when you say "actual vamp" there are many different opinions on how vampires look, I think ESO did a very good job of portraying the vampire appearance

sumisu1

Yes

I'd at least expect the crown store general body marking collection coming soon should come with an option for normal skin.

maltinkilic

Yes

If not a new skin please add make up stations so we can hide that gross vampire skin a bit.

srfrogg23

Yes

Turelus wrote: »

I too want my cake and to eat it.

You can't eat your cake if you don't have it.

starkerealm

Yes

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

IMO you should not be able to hide being a Vamp- if you want the benefits you have to take the consequences too. However, I would like to see the look of being a Vamp redone and made to look like an actual Vamp and not a sickly zombie

Probably worth remembering, there is absolutely no benefits to being a vampire in Stage 1 unless you have active abilities slotted.

Mivryna

Yes

Would be nice if Stage 1 could blend in a little better. And Mer eyes need be more... Mer-ish.

Abeille

Yes

I wouldn't use it much, but the lore supports it and I know a lot of good people here who would want it very much and I'm rooting for them.

Lord_Wrath

No

We shouldnt need a skin to see out tattoos. Zos needs to do a GOOD JOB so that these things can be visible on a vampire.

Flak

Yes

I think the argument of "People need to see that you are a vampire" is kinda odd since there are Skins in the game already that hide it completely. If you want to identify a vampire using an addon is much quicker anyways.

EldritchPenguin

I don't care

What I really want is to be a vampire without my tattoos fading.

Zakor

Yes

Old discussion. But can't get why people vote no. It's optional. If you don't like it don't use it. But hiding vampirism is clearly a thing in TES Lore (we even got a questline around that!) so why the hell are we kinda the only higher vamps that can't do so? Would be nice to hide my vampirism from those mortal beings of tamriel from time to time.

Miaura

Yes

Oh yes. Though my only vamp char, a breton, looks quite pretty at stage one and even two, she logs around a bagfull of disguises to sometimes look mortal in town.
And the only reason she looks pretty at stage one is thanks to the new crowns store subtle dark eyelahes and that her original makeup has the thickest dark eyeliner and darkest lips available- without the eyelashes she`d look wishy washy, or like she dipped her head in a bucket of flour, despite the darkest makeup ... A pity that vampirism covers makeup and bodypaint with that chalk.
But, indeed, vampires illusion skills to the rescue , why not ? (Especially if anyone can look like a Dro-M`athra or a skeleton?)
Remember how in Oblivion there was a vampire who was the leader of an unsuspecting group of vampire hunters?

And I`d be ok if it could only be used at stage one, though personally would not mind if it were at any stage.

Jamini

No

Zakor wrote: »

Old discussion. But can't get why people vote no. It's optional. If you don't like it don't use it. But hiding vampirism is clearly a thing in TES Lore (we even got a questline around that!) so why the hell are we kinda the only higher vamps that can't do so? Would be nice to hide my vampirism from those mortal beings of tamriel from time to time.

Stage 1 vampires are not terribly obvious. Every vampire that was hidden in Skyrim was also very well fed.

If you are playing Stage 4, and getting all the benefits, you are playing a starving vampire that even in Skyrim would indeed be blatantly obvious (and hostile) to everyone around them.

Also disguises and polymorphs.

srfrogg23

Yes

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

You want the powers that a vampire has? well you are gonna get the look! an advantage for a disadvantage haha!

I agree though the Tattoos could be more prominent on the skin of the vampire, as I find them too faded to see, I do like the tinge of purple though which is pretty nice.

But other than this there is no need for a *skin* or a *gloss over* on the vampire look. Like I have said before, you decided to become undead to get the powers of the vamp, your going to have to sacrifice the way you look.

Eh... can't agree. Vampires are fictitious creatures. They don't "look" like anything because they don't exist. So they could look like anything, including like a fairly normal living person like Interview With A Vampire. They could also look like the split-jawed zombies from Blade 2, or werewolf/bat creatures like Bram Stoker's Dracula, or the twinkling disco-balls of Twighlight.

I think there's a solid argument for allowing vampires to look like normal people in that regard. Depending on the mythology, vampires lived amongst their prey, and to do that they had to blend in.

They needed to look normal to not only survive, but also to be effective predators. That means they couldn't stick out like a sore thumb by looking so strung-out and zombie-ish.

KaiDynasty

Yes

@srfrogg23 I think so too, but here people want to keep the ugly skin as punishment of their passives... (which seem a Revenge instead of a sensed choice).

DurzoBlint13

No

starkerealm wrote: »

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

IMO you should not be able to hide being a Vamp- if you want the benefits you have to take the consequences too. However, I would like to see the look of being a Vamp redone and made to look like an actual Vamp and not a sickly zombie

Probably worth remembering, there is absolutely no benefits to being a vampire in Stage 1 unless you have active abilities slotted.

sorry, I meant stage 4. I always stay in stage 4.

Flak wrote: »

I think the argument of "People need to see that you are a vampire" is kinda odd since there are Skins in the game already that hide it completely. If you want to identify a vampire using an addon is much quicker anyways.

2/3 of the platforms ESO is played on do NOT even have access to addons. I know most forum users are PC players but there is still a decent population of us console peasants here too

Uriel_Nocturne

I don't care

Meh, I don't really care either way.

If I want to go back to the perfect skin of my Dunmer master-race, I usually just cure the Vampirism.
If I want to look like a porcelain demon, I stay at Stage 4.

If ZOS adds in a "normal" skin, I wouldn't pay the Crowns they will inevitably ask for me to fork out to pay for it. But I won't complain about anyone using it either.

So yeah, I really don't care what the rest of you S'wit's do with it. It doesn't affect me in any way.

srfrogg23

Yes

KaiDynasty wrote: »

@srfrogg23 I think so too, but here people want to keep the ugly skin as punishment of their passives... (which seem a Revenge instead of a sensed choice).

It is a weird dynamic isn't it?

-Person A says: "I want to be a vampire in ESO (a fictional creature in a fictional world), but I don't want to be an ugly one".

-Person B responds with: "I don't want to be a vampire, so therefore person A should have to look at an ugly character model as a punishment for their choice because [insert misplaced sense of moral superiority]".

Llaren_Uvayn

Yes

Yes, if only to make it so that not nearly half the population looks like the kin of Molag Bal, the main antagonist of the entire game.

I don't even play a vampire myself.

starkerealm

Yes

srfrogg23 wrote: »

KaiDynasty wrote: »

@srfrogg23 I think so too, but here people want to keep the ugly skin as punishment of their passives... (which seem a Revenge instead of a sensed choice).

It is a weird dynamic isn't it?

-Person A says: "I want to be a vampire in ESO (a fictional creature in a fictional world), but I don't want to be an ugly one".

-Person B responds with: "I don't want to be a vampire, so therefore person A should have to look at an ugly character model as a punishment for their choice because [insert misplaced sense of moral superiority]".

And that's the kind of insightful observation that leads us all into a horrific political discussion.

srfrogg23

Yes

starkerealm wrote: »

srfrogg23 wrote: »

KaiDynasty wrote: »

@srfrogg23 I think so too, but here people want to keep the ugly skin as punishment of their passives... (which seem a Revenge instead of a sensed choice).

It is a weird dynamic isn't it?

-Person A says: "I want to be a vampire in ESO (a fictional creature in a fictional world), but I don't want to be an ugly one".

-Person B responds with: "I don't want to be a vampire, so therefore person A should have to look at an ugly character model as a punishment for their choice because [insert misplaced sense of moral superiority]".

And that's the kind of insightful observation that leads us all into a horrific political discussion.

Yes, sir, you are welcome!

TX12001rwb17_ESO

No

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

We shouldnt need a skin to see out tattoos. Zos needs to do a GOOD JOB so that these things can be visible on a vampire.

Actually there is a reason your tattoo looks faded as a vampire,, in later stages your flesh is actually decaying as it is struggling to heal itself

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

Some vampires in the TES lore have a spell who hide their real face to the world. I would love to have such a spell in ESO, probably a collectible but a skill who last long is okay too. If it imply that pnj won't talk to us without this effect (at state 4 especially), so be it.

Beside, I would love to see the real color of my tattoo. The skin and eyes are fine, the tattoo are not.

Tattoos fade as flesh decays. Once the semi permenent layer is gone the ink will dissappear (hence why you never see a properly tattooed mummified corpse and tattooing being centuries old) true story. In short you foul rotten (literally) scum can't have proper tattoos.

I don't think it has occurred to people that the only thing preventing the vampire from decaying is blood and as you said "tattoos fade as flesh decays"

Soella

Yes

I got vampirism, and sure I have to deal with balance affecting consequences.

But current stage 4 is disgusting, I have to use disguise to be able to play toon, it's kinda very annoying. We need either ability to hide it or choose between few options.

srfrogg23

Yes

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

IMO you should not be able to hide being a Vamp- if you want the benefits you have to take the consequences too. However, I would like to see the look of being a Vamp redone and made to look like an actual Vamp and not a sickly zombie

The sickly zombie is only shown if you don't drink..when you say "actual vamp" there are many different opinions on how vampires look, I think ESO did a very good job of portraying the vampire appearance

Ugh... TES games have always done a terrible job of portraying vampirism. ESO is particularly bad.

When I walk up to an NPC all cracked-out in stage 4 like I've been awake for 2 weeks straight on a Pixie-Stick bender and they're like:

"Ohaithere! My beloved daughter is the damsel in distress captured for ransom by evil Pirates down the road! Please rescue her? Kthxbye!"

I wander away muttering, "I'll rescue her...but I'm going Legacy of Kain on yer sorry ass when I get back...".

It's horribly immersion breaking. NPCs don't react realistically to the vampire look at all.

Jemcrystal

No

You aimed the question directly at me so the answer for me is "no." But I sympathize with those of you who find it unappealing. I would say cater to both aspects of vampirism. Let those of us who want to be "ugly" (tho I find the vision of all my stages attractive) remain so. Let those who wish for beauty get ... idk something. Not sure what it is they are asking for but I do not want it to take away from what is already implemented.

I like vampire appearance as it is plz do not nerf.

In the Laurell K. Hamilton novel series Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter there were a wide variety of vampires. Two main ones took top spotlight. An undead version and an incubus/succubus version. Also in Jim Baker's The Dresden Files these various vampires appear. Again an emphasis on an ugly version and a beautiful seductive version take lead spotlight. Bram Stoker's traditional vampire had no altering of appearance but focused more on altering the mind/perceptions of those who looked upon the vampire. Manga vampires are usually insanely gorgeous or hideously deformed with unusual body parts - like Vampire D and his hand companion.

Not up on Elder Scrolls vampire lore but this appears to be uncharted territory and open for shaping.

NoFlash

yes, take the albino look away and add fangs or something else to distinguish vamps from non vamps

TX12001rwb17_ESO

No

Yeah the reason you look dead is because your dead, the reason your tattoos fade is because tattoos fade as your flesh decays.

Sovaso

I don't care

I really don't care

Abeille

Yes

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

2/3 of the platforms ESO is played on do NOT even have access to addons. I know most forum users are PC players but there is still a decent population of us console peasants here too

All platforms have access to polymorphs though, and they already hide your vampirism.

Having yet another way to hide vampirism won't suddenly break the game since there is such mechanic in the game already.

KaiDynasty

Yes

I think some players are misreading what I asked for.
I didn't ask to change the current look of vampires, I know there are people that like it, I asked if it would be ok have an option to hide it so that the ones that don't like being a mozzarella could hide it!