Even if i don't agree with nerfing the sets on PvE, i don't understand why people cry so much. Is not like you will have problems completing some PvE content lol, DPS numbers are higher and higher in every patch, if they go down a little bit, no one will die. Trials will still be completed, and vMA will still l be a walk in the part for any exprienced player.
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Zos, you are so out of touch with the players, its not even funny anymore.
If you cant keep pve and pvp separate, then i will keep you away from my money.
Even if i don't agree with nerfing the sets on PvE, i don't understand why people cry so much. Is not like you will have problems completing some PvE content lol, DPS numbers are higher and higher in every patch, if they go down a little bit, no one will die. Trials will still be completed, and vMA will still l be a walk in the part for any exprienced player.
That being said, if you can't pull good DPS numbers without a proc set, maybe you need to work on your rotations (a.k.a git gud).
Publius_Scipio wrote: »Even if i don't agree with nerfing the sets on PvE, i don't understand why people cry so much. Is not like you will have problems completing some PvE content lol, DPS numbers are higher and higher in every patch, if they go down a little bit, no one will die. Trials will still be completed, and vMA will still l be a walk in the part for any exprienced player.
That being said, if you can't pull good DPS numbers without a proc set, maybe you need to work on your rotations (a.k.a git gud).
I agree. What's the big deal? You will still crit with melee and your skills, just not the proc set......
Okay now how about you also make it so you can't stack more than one proc set at a time, and while you are at it make it so proc sets can't proc vicious death. I can't wait to see how you guys will fix heavy armor and destro ultimate as, oh boy!!
sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »Damn, looks like PvP will be more playable, but PvE? Bosses living 10sec longer? This will ruin PvE. /s
Trashyratchet wrote: »Completely removing crit chance in PvE seems lazy and reckless. PvE pretty much revolves around crit modifiers. Probably going to find very little use for 2 piece monster sets for DD's in PvE.
Am not sure if your joking proc sets are pretty much the same in pvp as before.Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Looks like skill wins in update 13 . Future subscriber posting .
1. Dwemer was never better as any other heal, meanwhile people are actually complain about malubesh which still crit heal for 20k in PvP time to time.Joy_Division wrote: »Sugaroverdose wrote: »Unnecessary? ffsJoy_Division wrote: »On behalf of all the PvE players that don't pull 40K+ DPS and have spent hours and hours and precious gold mats finding the perfect monster helms, I apologize for being part of the "PvP crowd" that just prompted ZoS to slap you with a dubious and unnecessary broad-brushed nerf.
Yes. It was unnecessary to treat every proc set good, average, and bad, as problems in every aspect of the game. Especially stuff like the Healing Dwemer Spider. Who the heck ever cried that the crit heals from that was OP?
What was necessary was that some very specific proc sets were hitting too often and in conjuction with other proc sets - something ZoS's broad brushed fix did not address btw.
But this is what we get by posting stupid and simplistic memes instead of taking 5 minutes to actually describe what stuff is OP and why it is OP: a broad-brushed bull in in a china shop "fix" that unnecessarily upsets too many players.
Publius_Scipio wrote: »Trashyratchet wrote: »Completely removing crit chance in PvE seems lazy and reckless. PvE pretty much revolves around crit modifiers. Probably going to find very little use for 2 piece monster sets for DD's in PvE.
The no crit chance is only for the monster set procs. Why is this a big issue? You can still crit melee and the rest of your skills as has always been the case.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Even if i don't agree with nerfing the sets on PvE, i don't understand why people cry so much. Is not like you will have problems completing some PvE content lol, DPS numbers are higher and higher in every patch, if they go down a little bit, no one will die. Trials will still be completed, and vMA will still l be a walk in the part for any exprienced player.
That being said, if you can't pull good DPS numbers without a proc set, maybe you need to work on your rotations (a.k.a git gud).
I agree. What's the big deal? You will still crit with melee and your skills, just not the proc set......
The problem is PVE is taking a hit for PVP's quality of life when the changes wont even -do- anything.
They are ineffective, persona non vitae, they dont -work-. The sheer volume of procs will still kill you, and it wont do anything.
Publius_Scipio wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Even if i don't agree with nerfing the sets on PvE, i don't understand why people cry so much. Is not like you will have problems completing some PvE content lol, DPS numbers are higher and higher in every patch, if they go down a little bit, no one will die. Trials will still be completed, and vMA will still l be a walk in the part for any exprienced player.
That being said, if you can't pull good DPS numbers without a proc set, maybe you need to work on your rotations (a.k.a git gud).
I agree. What's the big deal? You will still crit with melee and your skills, just not the proc set......
The problem is PVE is taking a hit for PVP's quality of life when the changes wont even -do- anything.
They are ineffective, persona non vitae, they dont -work-. The sheer volume of procs will still kill you, and it wont do anything.
What is the hit to PvE? What is the major collpase of PvE quality of life? Only the monster set procs will no longer crit... That means they will still do big time damage. Just no chance for it to do MEGA SUPER ULTRA damage.
PvP has to breathe too.
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Regarding proc sets, is there any possibility of having something like what WoW introduced in Legion, where you have PVP "templates" on gear sets? Basically, having gear and set bonuses behave differently depending on whether you are currently flagged for PVP (including dueling)?
I really think that would be the safest, most constructive way to go, and easier for you in the long term. No more causing problems in PVP when you make cool PVE changes and vice versa.
A little extra work maybe, but a large benefit to stability and build diversity. Plus you save the cost of having to go back and do so much balance work later.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Trashyratchet wrote: »Completely removing crit chance in PvE seems lazy and reckless. PvE pretty much revolves around crit modifiers. Probably going to find very little use for 2 piece monster sets for DD's in PvE.
The no crit chance is only for the monster set procs. Why is this a big issue? You can still crit melee and the rest of your skills as has always been the case.
@Publius_Scipio
1. It is not only monster sets. Stop spreading misinformation. It is any set that has a damage on proc, or heal on proc componant.
2. These changes will do nothing because the sheer volume of procs will be too high. People have allready rightfully suggested a proc cool down for these things to keep them viable in PVE.
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION. STOP IGNORING THE PROBLEM.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Even if i don't agree with nerfing the sets on PvE, i don't understand why people cry so much. Is not like you will have problems completing some PvE content lol, DPS numbers are higher and higher in every patch, if they go down a little bit, no one will die. Trials will still be completed, and vMA will still l be a walk in the part for any exprienced player.
That being said, if you can't pull good DPS numbers without a proc set, maybe you need to work on your rotations (a.k.a git gud).
I agree. What's the big deal? You will still crit with melee and your skills, just not the proc set......
The problem is PVE is taking a hit for PVP's quality of life when the changes wont even -do- anything.
They are ineffective, persona non vitae, they dont -work-. The sheer volume of procs will still kill you, and it wont do anything.
What is the hit to PvE? What is the major collpase of PvE quality of life? Only the monster set procs will no longer crit... That means they will still do big time damage. Just no chance for it to do MEGA SUPER ULTRA damage.
PvP has to breathe too.
@Publius_Scipio
I have allready told you why it's bad and I have allready told you what they could do. A universal cooldown for set procs would solve the problem for both parties.
STOP THE IMPERIALISM. STOP TAKING FROM PVE BECAUSE PVP IS GREEDY.
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Zos, you are so out of touch with the players, its not even funny anymore.
If you cant keep pve and pvp separate, then i will keep you away from my money.
Oh know i'm going to lose rough;y 3% dps because my proc sets can't crit.
However will i handle such huge set back in pve now? What am i going to do when i'm busy ignoring boss mechanics in my 30s boss burst? The boss will live 2s longer, this could be wipe worthy.
Like come on people really?
Publius_Scipio wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Trashyratchet wrote: »Completely removing crit chance in PvE seems lazy and reckless. PvE pretty much revolves around crit modifiers. Probably going to find very little use for 2 piece monster sets for DD's in PvE.
The no crit chance is only for the monster set procs. Why is this a big issue? You can still crit melee and the rest of your skills as has always been the case.
@Publius_Scipio
1. It is not only monster sets. Stop spreading misinformation. It is any set that has a damage on proc, or heal on proc componant.
2. These changes will do nothing because the sheer volume of procs will be too high. People have allready rightfully suggested a proc cool down for these things to keep them viable in PVE.
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION. STOP IGNORING THE PROBLEM.
First off, I apologize if i misunderstood, ANY PROC. Ok. Still big deal! The problem is PvE people talking about a collpase in quality of life because procs won't crit. I mean come on.