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Miat's PVP Alerts Addon
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✭✭Quoting for posterity. And for when I get off work.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
Your pic doesn't do anything other than show you and Mano.
But everyone knows Mano zergs, you not heard of the #Manozerg ?
I believe my pic shows I'm not a coward who merely hides in zergs, afraid to die, as has been claimed. I am almost always charging out front, to my own peril, and running headlong against more skillful/talented players. The pic shows me running right up his fanny looking for a fight I would probably lose. I don't use add ons to avoid death and don't hide in zergs to avoid death. Mano can keep making false claims-and I will keep defending myself.God_flakes wrote: »I was going to offer 5k gold to winner of Mano and Jauriel duel in stormhaven but then I remembered Mano has breath of life on all 10 ability slots, so would be a long drawn-out draw.
You should have just spambushed him when he tried to get away. No escape!
Sadly, I froze at this point and had to hard shut the game down. I was rage-laughing about it, actually.arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
As I said, my game froze. I had to hard shut down. Why do people feel the need to remind ppl print screen exists? My phone is right there and easier. Thanks for the unnecessary and irrelevant advice, though.
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pcar944✭✭✭✭I was going to offer 5k gold to winner of Mano and Jauriel duel in stormhaven but then I remembered Mano has breath of life on all 10 ability slots, so would be a long drawn-out draw.
You should have just spambushed him when he tried to get away. No escape!
*crying*One Tamriel killed PVP
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Magus✭✭✭✭✭
To be fair, I did die a couple times to double weapon swap lag the other night and then I was like I see why Mano has breath of life on both bars. Reminds me when I played sorc and had to put hardened ward on both bars in lag.Duraeon / Maoh
Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
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antihero727✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »antihero727 wrote: »arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
She is a purist and has that button unbound. Then 5 paragraphs telling you why and that DC never zergs.
Please show me in quotes where I said dc never zergs. I will wait.
I am not sifting through the 40000 posts to quote you. If it was 5 thousand like normal person posts in here I might. Your forum presence deserves a gold star participation trophy.Veldrn-AD Magica Sorc
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pcar944✭✭✭✭you know its funny but, how many addons other people have running atm that you guys don't even have a clue about?
if you are using this, you cant say anything to any NB using cloakOne Tamriel killed PVP
DC Magicka Orc Necromancer climbing those ranks ...0 -
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To be fair, I did die a couple times to double weapon swap lag the other night and then I was like I see why Mano has breath of life on both bars. Reminds me when I played sorc and had to put hardened ward on both bars in lag.
Lol I get comments on my video asking me why I keep casting radiant magelight in fights. Because it's on the same button as HtD on my other bar and weapon swap lag sucks. Love getting *** while I spam radiant magelight.PC/NA
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Kutsuu - Temp
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To be fair, I did die a couple times to double weapon swap lag the other night and then I was like I see why Mano has breath of life on both bars. Reminds me when I played sorc and had to put hardened ward on both bars in lag.
Lol I get comments on my video asking me why I keep casting radiant magelight in fights. Because it's on the same button as HtD on my other bar and weapon swap lag sucks. Love getting *** while I spam radiant magelight.
Weapon swap is especially brutal with the interrupts that interrupt weapon swap. Yes, if you weren't aware, you can have your weapon swap interrupted so you aren't sure if it's just laggy or if it got interrupted.Duraeon / Maoh
Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
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God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭antihero727 wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »antihero727 wrote: »arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
She is a purist and has that button unbound. Then 5 paragraphs telling you why and that DC never zergs.
Please show me in quotes where I said dc never zergs. I will wait.
I am not sifting through the 40000 posts to quote you. If it was 5 thousand like normal person posts in here I might. Your forum presence deserves a gold star participation trophy.
I have less posts than your buddy Manoe.
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✭✭Quoting for posterity. And for when I get off work.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
Your pic doesn't do anything other than show you and Mano.
But everyone knows Mano zergs, you not heard of the #Manozerg ?
I believe my pic shows I'm not a coward who merely hides in zergs, afraid to die, as has been claimed. I am almost always charging out front, to my own peril, and running headlong against more skillful/talented players. The pic shows me running right up his fanny looking for a fight I would probably lose. I don't use add ons to avoid death and don't hide in zergs to avoid death. Mano can keep making false claims-and I will keep defending myself.God_flakes wrote: »I was going to offer 5k gold to winner of Mano and Jauriel duel in stormhaven but then I remembered Mano has breath of life on all 10 ability slots, so would be a long drawn-out draw.
You should have just spambushed him when he tried to get away. No escape!
Sadly, I froze at this point and had to hard shut the game down. I was rage-laughing about it, actually.arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
As I said, my game froze. I had to hard shut down. Why do people feel the need to remind ppl print screen exists? My phone is right there and easier. Thanks for the unnecessary and irrelevant advice, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLtqUDfT2HQ
Video from said zerging!
The small scale hero.Edited by Manoekin on December 21, 2016 9:32PM7 -
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✭Oh my god he has a video of a large group vs a large group in eso!!!!! The horror!
Mano, as usual you've missed my point. I have never denied running with groups. I have never denied zerg surfing when it's on the menu for the night. I don't HIDE in them so that I don't face death. I charge right ahead and fight. I don't use add ons to avoid death and I don't use zergs either.
Nice profanity in the vid.
Edited by God_flakes on December 21, 2016 9:39PM1 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭Quoting for posterity. And for when I get off work.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
Your pic doesn't do anything other than show you and Mano.
But everyone knows Mano zergs, you not heard of the #Manozerg ?
I believe my pic shows I'm not a coward who merely hides in zergs, afraid to die, as has been claimed. I am almost always charging out front, to my own peril, and running headlong against more skillful/talented players. The pic shows me running right up his fanny looking for a fight I would probably lose. I don't use add ons to avoid death and don't hide in zergs to avoid death. Mano can keep making false claims-and I will keep defending myself.God_flakes wrote: »I was going to offer 5k gold to winner of Mano and Jauriel duel in stormhaven but then I remembered Mano has breath of life on all 10 ability slots, so would be a long drawn-out draw.
You should have just spambushed him when he tried to get away. No escape!
Sadly, I froze at this point and had to hard shut the game down. I was rage-laughing about it, actually.arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
As I said, my game froze. I had to hard shut down. Why do people feel the need to remind ppl print screen exists? My phone is right there and easier. Thanks for the unnecessary and irrelevant advice, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLtqUDfT2HQ
Video from said zerging!
The small scale hero.
Healthy desync at 100%? That was odd not seeing your health bar go down at all after taking damage.Duraeon / Maoh
Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
PC/NA2 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭Quoting for posterity. And for when I get off work.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
Your pic doesn't do anything other than show you and Mano.
But everyone knows Mano zergs, you not heard of the #Manozerg ?
I believe my pic shows I'm not a coward who merely hides in zergs, afraid to die, as has been claimed. I am almost always charging out front, to my own peril, and running headlong against more skillful/talented players. The pic shows me running right up his fanny looking for a fight I would probably lose. I don't use add ons to avoid death and don't hide in zergs to avoid death. Mano can keep making false claims-and I will keep defending myself.God_flakes wrote: »I was going to offer 5k gold to winner of Mano and Jauriel duel in stormhaven but then I remembered Mano has breath of life on all 10 ability slots, so would be a long drawn-out draw.
You should have just spambushed him when he tried to get away. No escape!
Sadly, I froze at this point and had to hard shut the game down. I was rage-laughing about it, actually.arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
As I said, my game froze. I had to hard shut down. Why do people feel the need to remind ppl print screen exists? My phone is right there and easier. Thanks for the unnecessary and irrelevant advice, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLtqUDfT2HQ
Video from said zerging!
The small scale hero.
Healthy desync at 100%? That was odd not seeing your health bar go down at all after taking damage.
I'm cracking up at him falling down on the rocks while his zerg detted up and dropped ults. Seemed convenient timing but meh.
But let me be absolutely concise for the final time so we are absolutely clear Mano and Anti (no post searching required): I join in on zergs like every eso player ever born. I surf em proudly. I join my friends in their large groups when I am in the mood. I small scale with Rinaldo and Minno when that's what I'm feeling. I solo when I'm feeling emo and wanna be alone. I duo when my man is on. I have a wide range and never have I ever denied joining in on zergfests. I just don't hide inside zergs to avoid dying.
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✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »Quoting for posterity. And for when I get off work.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
Your pic doesn't do anything other than show you and Mano.
But everyone knows Mano zergs, you not heard of the #Manozerg ?
I believe my pic shows I'm not a coward who merely hides in zergs, afraid to die, as has been claimed. I am almost always charging out front, to my own peril, and running headlong against more skillful/talented players. The pic shows me running right up his fanny looking for a fight I would probably lose. I don't use add ons to avoid death and don't hide in zergs to avoid death. Mano can keep making false claims-and I will keep defending myself.God_flakes wrote: »I was going to offer 5k gold to winner of Mano and Jauriel duel in stormhaven but then I remembered Mano has breath of life on all 10 ability slots, so would be a long drawn-out draw.
You should have just spambushed him when he tried to get away. No escape!
Sadly, I froze at this point and had to hard shut the game down. I was rage-laughing about it, actually.arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
As I said, my game froze. I had to hard shut down. Why do people feel the need to remind ppl print screen exists? My phone is right there and easier. Thanks for the unnecessary and irrelevant advice, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLtqUDfT2HQ
Video from said zerging!
The small scale hero.
Healthy desync at 100%? That was odd not seeing your health bar go down at all after taking damage.
I'm cracking up at him falling down on the rocks while his zerg detted up and dropped ults. Seemed convenient timing but meh.
But let me be absolutely concise for the final time so we are absolutely clear Mano and Anti (no post searching required): I join in on zergs like every eso player ever born. I surf em proudly. I join my friends in their large groups when I am in the mood. I small scale with Rinaldo and Minno when that's what I'm feeling. I solo when I'm feeling emo and wanna be alone. I duo when my man is on. I have a wide range and never have I ever denied joining in on zergfests. I just don't hide inside zergs to avoid dying.
Any more concerns about my gaming time?
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✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Quoting for posterity. And for when I get off work.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
Your pic doesn't do anything other than show you and Mano.
But everyone knows Mano zergs, you not heard of the #Manozerg ?
I believe my pic shows I'm not a coward who merely hides in zergs, afraid to die, as has been claimed. I am almost always charging out front, to my own peril, and running headlong against more skillful/talented players. The pic shows me running right up his fanny looking for a fight I would probably lose. I don't use add ons to avoid death and don't hide in zergs to avoid death. Mano can keep making false claims-and I will keep defending myself.God_flakes wrote: »I was going to offer 5k gold to winner of Mano and Jauriel duel in stormhaven but then I remembered Mano has breath of life on all 10 ability slots, so would be a long drawn-out draw.
You should have just spambushed him when he tried to get away. No escape!
Sadly, I froze at this point and had to hard shut the game down. I was rage-laughing about it, actually.arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
As I said, my game froze. I had to hard shut down. Why do people feel the need to remind ppl print screen exists? My phone is right there and easier. Thanks for the unnecessary and irrelevant advice, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLtqUDfT2HQ
Video from said zerging!
The small scale hero.
Healthy desync at 100%? That was odd not seeing your health bar go down at all after taking damage.
I'm cracking up at him falling down on the rocks while his zerg detted up and dropped ults. Seemed convenient timing but meh.
But let me be absolutely concise for the final time so we are absolutely clear Mano and Anti (no post searching required): I join in on zergs like every eso player ever born. I surf em proudly. I join my friends in their large groups when I am in the mood. I small scale with Rinaldo and Minno when that's what I'm feeling. I solo when I'm feeling emo and wanna be alone. I duo when my man is on. I have a wide range and never have I ever denied joining in on zergfests. I just don't hide inside zergs to avoid dying.
Any more concerns about my gaming time?
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antihero727✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »antihero727 wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »antihero727 wrote: »arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
She is a purist and has that button unbound. Then 5 paragraphs telling you why and that DC never zergs.
Please show me in quotes where I said dc never zergs. I will wait.
I am not sifting through the 40000 posts to quote you. If it was 5 thousand like normal person posts in here I might. Your forum presence deserves a gold star participation trophy.
I have less posts than your buddy Manoe.
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✭✭God_flakes wrote: »Quoting for posterity. And for when I get off work.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
Your pic doesn't do anything other than show you and Mano.
But everyone knows Mano zergs, you not heard of the #Manozerg ?
I believe my pic shows I'm not a coward who merely hides in zergs, afraid to die, as has been claimed. I am almost always charging out front, to my own peril, and running headlong against more skillful/talented players. The pic shows me running right up his fanny looking for a fight I would probably lose. I don't use add ons to avoid death and don't hide in zergs to avoid death. Mano can keep making false claims-and I will keep defending myself.God_flakes wrote: »I was going to offer 5k gold to winner of Mano and Jauriel duel in stormhaven but then I remembered Mano has breath of life on all 10 ability slots, so would be a long drawn-out draw.
You should have just spambushed him when he tried to get away. No escape!
Sadly, I froze at this point and had to hard shut the game down. I was rage-laughing about it, actually.arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
As I said, my game froze. I had to hard shut down. Why do people feel the need to remind ppl print screen exists? My phone is right there and easier. Thanks for the unnecessary and irrelevant advice, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLtqUDfT2HQ
Video from said zerging!
The small scale hero.
Healthy desync at 100%? That was odd not seeing your health bar go down at all after taking damage.
I'm cracking up at him falling down on the rocks while his zerg detted up and dropped ults. Seemed convenient timing but meh.
But let me be absolutely concise for the final time so we are absolutely clear Mano and Anti (no post searching required): I join in on zergs like every eso player ever born. I surf em proudly. I join my friends in their large groups when I am in the mood. I small scale with Rinaldo and Minno when that's what I'm feeling. I solo when I'm feeling emo and wanna be alone. I duo when my man is on. I have a wide range and never have I ever denied joining in on zergfests. I just don't hide inside zergs to avoid dying.
Any more concerns about my gaming time?
How do you get this from this:God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
You can't just post a picture and tell me how you were about to zerg me down, and then post the same picture and say you were chasing me solo especially when I have proof as to otherwise. At least you can't be sane when you do it.
Almost every time I find you you're in the middle of a zerg. Every other time hasn't ended well for you either though.5 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭God_flakes wrote: »Quoting for posterity. And for when I get off work.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
Your pic doesn't do anything other than show you and Mano.
But everyone knows Mano zergs, you not heard of the #Manozerg ?
I believe my pic shows I'm not a coward who merely hides in zergs, afraid to die, as has been claimed. I am almost always charging out front, to my own peril, and running headlong against more skillful/talented players. The pic shows me running right up his fanny looking for a fight I would probably lose. I don't use add ons to avoid death and don't hide in zergs to avoid death. Mano can keep making false claims-and I will keep defending myself.God_flakes wrote: »I was going to offer 5k gold to winner of Mano and Jauriel duel in stormhaven but then I remembered Mano has breath of life on all 10 ability slots, so would be a long drawn-out draw.
You should have just spambushed him when he tried to get away. No escape!
Sadly, I froze at this point and had to hard shut the game down. I was rage-laughing about it, actually.arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
you understand there's a way to take a picture of your screen without using a physical camera, right?
As I said, my game froze. I had to hard shut down. Why do people feel the need to remind ppl print screen exists? My phone is right there and easier. Thanks for the unnecessary and irrelevant advice, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLtqUDfT2HQ
Video from said zerging!
The small scale hero.
Healthy desync at 100%? That was odd not seeing your health bar go down at all after taking damage.
I'm cracking up at him falling down on the rocks while his zerg detted up and dropped ults. Seemed convenient timing but meh.
But let me be absolutely concise for the final time so we are absolutely clear Mano and Anti (no post searching required): I join in on zergs like every eso player ever born. I surf em proudly. I join my friends in their large groups when I am in the mood. I small scale with Rinaldo and Minno when that's what I'm feeling. I solo when I'm feeling emo and wanna be alone. I duo when my man is on. I have a wide range and never have I ever denied joining in on zergfests. I just don't hide inside zergs to avoid dying.
Any more concerns about my gaming time?
How do you get this from this:God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Well ZOS hinted with their post on the thread in general disc that because the addon doesn't show specific locations of stealthed players that the addon is allowed which I 100% agree with.
Either take stealth out of the game, or allow the addon.
The argument is that:
1) it still tells you how many players nearby. You can avoid fights and hit targets to your benefit which is essentially an unfair advantage to those that do not run this mod.
You mean like stealth?
And the element of free stun and bonus damage. You don't necessarily need stealth to get the element of surprise, stealth is only a crutch to guarantee that you get it.2) stealth, despite having broken aspects to it, is still a fun playstyle for people. Denying them this ruins a core playstyle in any battlefield simulated game; the element of surprise.
Ok so I might be wrong here, but I don't think addons and mods are the same thing.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »
ROFL.
That line specifically mentions only things that are unauthorized. This is authorized as you said.
umm no....its not....
mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game
So ANY mod that "impacts another persons playing of the game or their experience of the game" is not allowed. I would say:- Knowing when someone is stealthed nearby with their name
- Being warned of attacks from stealth before hand and channeled attacks
- Telling the person how many people are around(even ones they don't see)
Most certainly does "adversely impact " other peoples playing experience especially those not using the said addon
An addon isn't a third party software. An addon isn't a mod, you aren't modifying the existing game code, you are adding to it.
There are no stat changes, speed changes, cooldown changes, or anything altering the game. It's not a radar, it's not a wallhack (you've got tab target for that remember?)
It doesn't impact anyone else in the way the tos means it, you are misinterpreting the tos words. Just like killing someone doesn't impact their game.
No one is taking stealth away from players, they can still use it. It doesn't change anything for people not using the addon.
It changes the way their target might react to the stealther engaging them.
So I don't think this is against the tos.
Now is it overpowered? That's an other question. I think it is, but I also think stealth for everyone in PvP is idiotic, so I fully support the addon as long as stealth remains in its current state.
You refer to stealth as a "crutch" and want to see it removed but approve of a blatant and pathetic crutches like this add on. Smfh. I can hardly believe the mentality I am seeing here.Dodge notifications have been available since the start of the game via stabilizer add-ons such as Combat Cloud.
Because it tells you what the attack is, and who it is by, people are crying NSA.
#getSnowdened
So the people who were using front training wheels are now endorsing back training wheels. Training wheels are still training wheels. What I can't understand is why people care so much about this GAME that they go to such lengths to prevent dying (when there is no penalty for it) and deck their game out with so many bells and whistles in a pathetic attempt to be a *star*. Just play the cotton picking game. Stop it. Stop trying to justify why anyone should feel justified even having a tiny sliver of an edge over anyone else because they're savvy enough to know about TRAINING WHEELS.
No one cares about that. If you want to compare "training wheels", why do people stand next to 40 other people to help prevent dying? You're an expert on that one.
Says the one who is constantly hiding in his own zerg and who runs tail tucked when his own zerg folds.
You. Running from me.
wtb Kappa emote
Point being what it is. That's me, *not* embedded in a zerg like he's always coming here and accusing me of and belittling me for. And that's him running from me, (whom he could probably kill) because his own personal zerg folded. If anyone thinks that a player as popular as Manoe in this game doesn't have an adoring zerg following him around, wanting in on the action, they're simply not playing this game and not in TF or not coming across him.
In the logic of this, the picture also shows him, on his own
Because his adoring zerg folded. I was the only one who gave chase and attempted to face him down on my own. I'm not the coward hiding inside zergs he is constantly accusing me of being. I am not afraid of dying in this game. I don't need this game to build status or inflate my ego. My pic is demonstrative of my claims and flies in the face of his constant belittling of me.
You can't just post a picture and tell me how you were about to zerg me down, and then post the same picture and say you were chasing me solo especially when I have proof as to otherwise. At least you can't be sane when you do it.
I was the only one on you. I wasn't hiding within a zerg like you claim. They were far enough behind me that the fight would have been you and me, baby. Until I crashed. My point: I don't hide inside zergs afraid to die. You're just not getting that and I'm tired of arguing this. We can continue on your channel if you like, though, if you haven't chewed this bone enough.I find you you're in the middle of a zerg. Every other time hasn't ended well for you either though.
Oh you got me....I'm trash. I'm far from the best warrior in the game. My bad, I play to have fun---not to be better than you.Edited by God_flakes on December 22, 2016 12:04AM1 -
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✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I am writing a Navy Seal friend to inform him using stealth is a crutch and he needs to Git gud .
And I'm writing a Navy seal friend to use dual wield instead of his assault rifle.
Do you have any other unrelated pointless comments?
ps : if you wanna go down the real life line, what about radars huh?4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I am writing a Navy Seal friend to inform him using stealth is a crutch and he needs to Git gud .
And I'm writing a Navy seal friend to use dual wield instead of his assault rifle.
Do you have any other unrelated pointless comments?
ps : if you wanna go down the real life line, what about radars huh?
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✭✭✭✭✭First of all you purchased an elder scrolls game . Radar not included . Stealth is a base game feature . If you don't like stealth why purchase a game with stealth as a major part ? One expansion , no two expansions almost completely stealth based . But some of you want to whine about stealth anyways so let's look at . Cloak has been nerfed to kingdom come . Most Nightblade ability has suffered many nerfs . The one shot proc from nerf is a product of proc sets , not stealth . But somehow people have come to the conclusion it's because stealth . Stealth is a crutch ? Is it ? Everyone has access to it . Hard to say that's a crutch . This add on is nothing more then a desperate act to save certain people that refuse to be ganked . They will still get ganked and anyone that thinks they are beyond getting ganked are not on the same server as a few pros or are so tanked out they bore people to death before dps does .
The bottom line is the Devs can't balance the classes on dps levels . You can get one shot by someone standing in plain sight if they are geared and get a double proc . People want to blame stealth for this but it's not stealth doing the majority of the work . You don't like stealth go play a game that doesn't have it as a major feature . Don't rewrite the rule book and expect everyone to adapt to what YOU don't like . If ZOS decides to remove the addon then just put on your big boy pants and play or find a game that doesn't have stealth as core mechanic and QQ to the community or try to bypass the system you agreed to play . Be an adult .6 -
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✭✭✭Lol I get comments on my video asking me why I keep casting radiant magelight in fights. Because it's on the same button as HtD on my other bar and weapon swap lag sucks. Love getting *** while I spam radiant magelight.
I had this when I wanted to bomb people and spam sap essence. On my other bar I had double take. The animation is the same when you clap your hands together. So I spammed double take inside a zerg
Yeah weapon swap can be a painEdited by Knootewoot on December 22, 2016 6:36AM٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."1
