Miat's PVP Alerts Addon

starlizard70ub17_ESO

I just heard about this addon from this thread. I downloaded it and realized it is a must have addon for PvP. If you're not running Miat's PVP Alerts Addon in PvP, you're basically gimping yourself. You might as well not even enter Cryodiil without it.

I think that^ sums up all you need to know about the addon. Personally I think it's a borderline form of cheating and should be disabled. But if everyone is using it, you really have no choice.

NyassaV

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

I just heard about this addon from this thread. I downloaded it and realized it is a must have addon for PvP. If you're not running Miat's PVP Alerts Addon in PvP, you're basically gimping yourself. You might as well not even enter Cryodiil without it.

I think that^ sums up all you need to know about the addon. Personally I think it's a borderline form of cheating and should be disabled. But if everyone is using it, you really have no choice.

It is pretty much cheating, and if you succumb to it, you are part of the problem. It stops with you. And FYI I do just fine without it, I like a challenge. Remember that it starts with you, be part of the solution, not the problem

Ashtaris

TequilaFire wrote: »

An official necro thread! lmao
#hypocrisy

And watch, it will get closed as a Necro thread, even though ZOS is the one who raised it from the dead

Feanor

Ashtaris wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

An official necro thread! lmao
#hypocrisy

And watch, it will get closed as a Necro thread, even though ZOS is the one who raised it from the dead

That would the epitome of hilarity. But I can see it coming cause ...you know...

Rickter

I use this addon.

but every function is disabled aside from the player counter, the "in range of Forward Camp", and "press Q to rez at closest respawn point" features. I only use the player counter to accurately gauge enemy force size.

Those are what i consider quality of life and should be built into the game. It also auto queues you for BGs so you dont have to hit "accept" every single time. literally changed my life.

I am unfamiliar with Miat's other features. something about notifying you of incoming projectiles? i really and honestly dont know. the 4 features above is why i like the addon.

If its anything like i think it is, you could say this addon was the pvp version of Raid Notifier - so where do we draw the line?

Defilted

After seeing this addon , I am glad I play on console.

ishilb14_ESO

Can we add this thread to the fossil record now?

DDuke

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

Can we add this thread to the fossil record now?

Unfortunately it's still partly relevant (shows cast timers of incoming attacks from opponents you can't see before they're even in the air), so I'd say it doesn't belong in the museum - yet.

Minnesinger

At least, it hurts most gankers that never want to have their attacks to be seen before the target is dead in 1 sec. Personally, I installed this addon and then forgot it and didn´t use until I saw this thread. It has its uses for sure but can´t deny it gives a fair advantage to the users.

DDuke

Minnesinger wrote: »

At least, it hurts most gankers that never want to have their attacks to be seen before the target is dead in 1 sec. Personally, I installed this addon and then forgot it and didn´t use until I saw this thread. It has its uses for sure but can´t deny it gives a fair advantage to the users.

That's a common misconception.

It actually doesn't affect the strong stealth builds at all, cast timers for heavy attacks were patched out half a year ago so Heavy+SA->Incaps etc are still functioning (as they should).

All it actually does is ruin ranged builds (both stealth & non-stealth ones) that utilize cast times and/or skills with long travel times.

Koensol

Derra wrote: »

The games API shows all that information?

W T F - if this isn´t banned rip ganking.

Derra wrote: »

NedicWildling wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

The games API shows all that information?

W T F - if this isn´t banned rip ganking.

I don't see it from a perspective of ganking, I see from a perspective of giving awareness to players that have 0 awareness. If DC & AD are fighting at Brindle and that faction counter at the bottom lights up with 9 EP that you haven't seen yourself and otherwise without the addon would have no knowledge that they were in the keep, how is that ok?

To be honest - that was a basic game feature in daoc on release (guards of claimed keeps would alert the guildchat - which the guild proceeded to post to zone or alliance chats).

However having an indicator when attacks from stealth against you start - uh oh. That sounds really bad tbh.

Derra wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

NedicWildling wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

The games API shows all that information?

W T F - if this isn´t banned rip ganking.

I don't see it from a perspective of ganking, I see from a perspective of giving awareness to players that have 0 awareness. If DC & AD are fighting at Brindle and that faction counter at the bottom lights up with 9 EP that you haven't seen yourself and otherwise without the addon would have no knowledge that they were in the keep, how is that ok?

To be honest - that was a basic game feature in daoc on release (guards of claimed keeps would alert the guildchat - which the guild proceeded to post to zone or alliance chats).

However having an indicator when attacks from stealth against you start - uh oh. That sounds really bad tbh.

I installed this addon the moment I saw him link it in a discord. It is entirely as advertised. It will not work too well until you build a database (which are shareable we have figured out, and throughout a wednesday of pvp we recorded around 1300 unique accounts on trueflame campaign if anyone is interested in numbers like that).

@Derra yes, I have received the stealth attack warning as you say and blocked entire stealth openers because of it. This part seems rather broken honestly. As for @NedicWildling comment about how rank doesn't make a difference... he missed the point. Miat (who made the addon) has been ganking for a long time, so it's from that perspective this addon comes from.

If you want some laughs though, download this and whisper the gankers you know are following you now. I've gotten some pretty good reactions.

The amount of information is enormous also as mentioned. I enjoy it because I prefer straight up fights, and knowing who I'm fighting helps in that regard. For any other situation the only purpose it serves is seeing how high the red number gets when I'm next to PM. The record so far is in the 60's I think.

I´ve tried it now - to be honest i like the anti gank functionality.
Sadly it won´t work against bow heavies as they are preloadable.

Finally something that atleast gives some form of counterplay to getting ganked - because the first thing when stepping into cyro solo ofc was getting insta ganked by a proccblade - oh so much fun.

@Derra LOL! Am I reading this right? So at first you responded to the addon like most would do with existing game mechanics in mind. But after you had a piece of the cheese, you changed perspective and decided you liked the addon because it helped you to be better at the game. Just perfect.

Derra

Koensol wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

The games API shows all that information?

W T F - if this isn´t banned rip ganking.

Derra wrote: »

NedicWildling wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

The games API shows all that information?

W T F - if this isn´t banned rip ganking.

I don't see it from a perspective of ganking, I see from a perspective of giving awareness to players that have 0 awareness. If DC & AD are fighting at Brindle and that faction counter at the bottom lights up with 9 EP that you haven't seen yourself and otherwise without the addon would have no knowledge that they were in the keep, how is that ok?

To be honest - that was a basic game feature in daoc on release (guards of claimed keeps would alert the guildchat - which the guild proceeded to post to zone or alliance chats).

However having an indicator when attacks from stealth against you start - uh oh. That sounds really bad tbh.

Derra wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

NedicWildling wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

The games API shows all that information?

W T F - if this isn´t banned rip ganking.

I don't see it from a perspective of ganking, I see from a perspective of giving awareness to players that have 0 awareness. If DC & AD are fighting at Brindle and that faction counter at the bottom lights up with 9 EP that you haven't seen yourself and otherwise without the addon would have no knowledge that they were in the keep, how is that ok?

To be honest - that was a basic game feature in daoc on release (guards of claimed keeps would alert the guildchat - which the guild proceeded to post to zone or alliance chats).

However having an indicator when attacks from stealth against you start - uh oh. That sounds really bad tbh.

I installed this addon the moment I saw him link it in a discord. It is entirely as advertised. It will not work too well until you build a database (which are shareable we have figured out, and throughout a wednesday of pvp we recorded around 1300 unique accounts on trueflame campaign if anyone is interested in numbers like that).

@Derra yes, I have received the stealth attack warning as you say and blocked entire stealth openers because of it. This part seems rather broken honestly. As for @NedicWildling comment about how rank doesn't make a difference... he missed the point. Miat (who made the addon) has been ganking for a long time, so it's from that perspective this addon comes from.

If you want some laughs though, download this and whisper the gankers you know are following you now. I've gotten some pretty good reactions.

The amount of information is enormous also as mentioned. I enjoy it because I prefer straight up fights, and knowing who I'm fighting helps in that regard. For any other situation the only purpose it serves is seeing how high the red number gets when I'm next to PM. The record so far is in the 60's I think.

I´ve tried it now - to be honest i like the anti gank functionality.
Sadly it won´t work against bow heavies as they are preloadable.

Finally something that atleast gives some form of counterplay to getting ganked - because the first thing when stepping into cyro solo ofc was getting insta ganked by a proccblade - oh so much fun.

@Derra LOL! Am I reading this right? So at first you responded to the addon like most would do with existing game mechanics in mind. But after you had a piece of the cheese, you changed perspective and decided you liked the addon because it helped you to be better at the game. Just perfect.

I really don´t see a problem?

Never made a secret that i strongly dislike the execution of esos stealth system.
Funny enough the heavyattack notification from sneak got removed by zos, tracking of stealthed players got removed, heavyattacks got nerfed and proccsets got nerfed - so the whole comments are completely out of context nowadays.

Ghostbane

Wow, this is till going on. Gotta be some kind of record.

@Dorrino Just rename it Miat Engine and be done with it.

Publius_Scipio

*Child eats Ghostbane*
*Ghostbane gone from ESO, well at least in DC form*

https://youtu.be/wHnKmYPI-mw

Great armor penetration on that DW fork and knife