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✭KisoValley wrote: »Crispen_Longbow wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Speaking of sorcs...I came across an unkillable sorc for the first time in a long time last night. Dude had it all-pets and mines and no matter what was thrown his way he was tankier than even escorpiao. It was bizarre. Since when can sorcs facetank for several minutes in the face of thoubsands of collective crit hits? Just bizarre.
I remember a few sorcs that were super tanky, Blinxey, Bishop of Souls, German etc. These guys were just beasts to kill. I never did learn what build they ran. They all decided to leave the game and never provided a parting build video for the new players to improve. They will be missed.
Idk abou Blinxey and Bishop but German's build was simple as hell.
People think too much of a build and not the player lol. Most 'op' builds are just a standard build with a small change, such as engine in German's case, or a different jewellery set in a certain EU sorc's duelists case. Doesn't make them op, they just use a simple build and fit other parts in to fit their play style and are actual good players lol.
i think you missed the dramatic irony behind his post. The first two sorcs mentioned might be even consider our founding fathers of CE.Edited by Malamar1229 on December 22, 2016 5:41PM7 -
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✭Crispen_Longbow wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Btw good to see 2 Zerglings defending stealth, 1 being aNB
Exactly the type of players I expected to defend stealth and hate the addon
Who are you referring too?
Ignore him....I do. I'm sure he's referring to me.
But if I'm such a worthless pos zergling why would I defend stealth? I would just hide inside a zerg. No need for stealth. <eye roll>Edited by God_flakes on December 22, 2016 5:43PM0 -
Yiko✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »You sure you wanna go down this road with me ?Rohamad_Ali wrote: »The one shot proc from nerf is a product of proc sets , not stealth . But somehow people have come to the conclusion it's because stealth.
What a joke. Absolutely clueless lol.
The advantage of stealth should be stealth itself - not a % damage modifier, critical hit, and stun. I don't understand how people can support that playstyle as it leaves little to no room for intelligible play and counterplay.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »Crispen_Longbow wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Btw good to see 2 Zerglings defending stealth, 1 being aNB
Exactly the type of players I expected to defend stealth and hate the addon
Who are you referring too?
Ignore him....I do. I'm sure he's referring to me.
But if I'm such a worthless pos zergling why would I defend stealth? I would just hide inside a zerg. No need for stealth. <eye roll>
He was. He also forgot about my Templar butt, that usually doesn't die to gankers nor runs reactive cheese with broken malubeth.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭God_flakes wrote: »Crispen_Longbow wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Btw good to see 2 Zerglings defending stealth, 1 being aNB
Exactly the type of players I expected to defend stealth and hate the addon
Who are you referring too?
Ignore him....I do. I'm sure he's referring to me.
But if I'm such a worthless pos zergling why would I defend stealth? I would just hide inside a zerg. No need for stealth. <eye roll>
He was. He also forgot about my Templar butt, that usually doesn't die to gankers nor runs reactive cheese with broken malubeth.
Just like certain other Ad he has an odd fixation with me.
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✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »You sure you wanna go down this road with me ?Rohamad_Ali wrote: »The one shot proc from nerf is a product of proc sets , not stealth . But somehow people have come to the conclusion it's because stealth.
What a joke. Absolutely clueless lol.
The advantage of stealth should be stealth itself - not a % damage modifier, critical hit, and stun. I don't understand how people can support that playstyle as it leaves little to no room for intelligible play and counterplay.
Well the devs pooped all over that train of thought when they added racial passives for 2 classes that give ANOTHER 9% extra damage from stealth lol.Daggerfall Covenant
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✭✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »The one shot proc from nerf is a product of proc sets , not stealth . But somehow people have come to the conclusion it's because stealth ..
It's not necessarily because of stealth or because of proc sets. This game's mechanics allow you to boost damage to rather unreasonable levels using large %age modifiers (such as crouch bonus and Empower) and no softcaps allowing us to stack up 5000+ weapon damage. I made a rather boring ganking montage of me using Alchemist+Spriggan+1x Kena + 1x Kra'gh to gank... No proc sets just a lot of damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyyMGkC0pIY
Nothing against the poster, but the fact that this is allowable in an MMO is utter trash.
16.5K Incap strike? Without even getting into the heal debuff, the stun, the damage increase? Yeah, NBs, keep telling me how that 50 cost ultimate is balanced, on par with the allmighty Cresecent Sweep and storm Atronach. It's a joke.
edit: this from a 384 CP ganker! And people wonder why I run around in a "cancerplar" build ...
no one saying that its fine, and that ulti should cost way more then what it is especially since these guys can just drink a potion and have it up and ready almost immediately
Zergbad was killing people with just heavy attacks, no incap ...
we are also talking about people who run divine armor and put all their points into stam and generally are glass cannons ...
The poster just said he ran impen and the Servant mundas.
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Crispen_Longbow wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Btw good to see 2 Zerglings defending stealth, 1 being aNB
Exactly the type of players I expected to defend stealth and hate the addon
Who are you referring too?
Ignore him....I do. I'm sure he's referring to me.
But if I'm such a worthless pos zergling why would I defend stealth? I would just hide inside a zerg. No need for stealth. <eye roll>
He was. He also forgot about my Templar butt, that usually doesn't die to gankers nor runs reactive cheese with broken malubeth.
Just like certain other Ad he has an odd fixation with me.
If gamergate is any indication, white male gamers usually have issues with strong independent women that they can't control.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭Oh wow did we just go there?Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Crispen_Longbow wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Btw good to see 2 Zerglings defending stealth, 1 being aNB
Exactly the type of players I expected to defend stealth and hate the addon
Who are you referring too?
Ignore him....I do. I'm sure he's referring to me.
But if I'm such a worthless pos zergling why would I defend stealth? I would just hide inside a zerg. No need for stealth. <eye roll>
He was. He also forgot about my Templar butt, that usually doesn't die to gankers nor runs reactive cheese with broken malubeth.
Just like certain other Ad he has an odd fixation with me.
If gamergate is any indication, white male gamers usually have issues with strong independent women that they can't control.
Poor Zoe Quinn. I can definitely empathize with her.
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Scamh✭✭✭If I charge a heavy (bow) attack and keep targetting someone who (I suspect) is using the addon, how many alerts will he get on his screen?
As in: can I troll them?
Edited by Scamh on December 22, 2016 7:23PMThe Upside Down (Stamplar) - Osaka Sewers X (Stamblade) - A Scanner Darkly (Magblade) - Taylor Swiftborn (Stam sorc)0 -
Manoekin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If I charge a heavy (bow) attack and keep targetting someone who (I suspect) is using the addon, how many alerts will he get on his screen?
As in: can I troll them?
Yes. If you stay on the target it will only alert them once, if you swipe over them a couple of times, it should play each time your target them.0 -
Scamh✭✭✭Lol. Exactly what I did today, but not sure if it was working. Must be annoying af
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Kutsuu✭✭✭✭✭If I charge a heavy (bow) attack and keep targetting someone who (I suspect) is using the addon, how many alerts will he get on his screen?
As in: can I troll them?
The better way to spam them with warnings is to use a melee weapon, and just keep targetting them and spamming heavy attacks from range. They still get alerts 30m away from a melee heavy attack, it's glorious.
I ran into Tamerlin last night and he went through half a dozen detect pots and wasted 10 minutes of his night desperately trying to find me while I sat on a rock spamming him with stealth attack alerts with my 2her.PC/NA
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Scamh✭✭✭Obviously we have discovered the real reason behind the development of this addon.The Upside Down (Stamplar) - Osaka Sewers X (Stamblade) - A Scanner Darkly (Magblade) - Taylor Swiftborn (Stam sorc)0
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »You sure you wanna go down this road with me ?Rohamad_Ali wrote: »The one shot proc from nerf is a product of proc sets , not stealth . But somehow people have come to the conclusion it's because stealth.
What a joke. Absolutely clueless lol.
The advantage of stealth should be stealth itself - not a % damage modifier, critical hit, and stun. I don't understand how people can support that playstyle as it leaves little to no room for intelligible play and counterplay.
Clueless would be buying a game that had that in it and then whining about it . That's like buying cod and then flipping out there are sniper rifles in the game . Despite the game clearly saying you can play snipers . That's cluelessness .Edited by Rohamad_Ali on December 22, 2016 7:36PM3 -
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✭✭✭Crispen_Longbow wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Speaking of sorcs...I came across an unkillable sorc for the first time in a long time last night. Dude had it all-pets and mines and no matter what was thrown his way he was tankier than even escorpiao. It was bizarre. Since when can sorcs facetank for several minutes in the face of thoubsands of collective crit hits? Just bizarre.
I remember a few sorcs that were super tanky, Blinxey, Bishop of Souls, German etc. These guys were just beasts to kill. I never did learn what build they ran. They all decided to leave the game and never provided a parting build video for the new players to improve. They will be missed.
Damn.... I didn't think about it at first.... But those butterflies were punished for HIS actions! Where is the justice in that!?0 -
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I'm sure there is a game out there somewhere where you guys can stand out in the open and fight like sitting ducks .1 -
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✭God_flakes wrote: »Oh my god he has a video of a large group vs a large group in eso!!!!! The horror!
Mano, as usual you've missed my point. I have never denied running with groups. I have never denied zerg surfing when it's on the menu for the night. I don't HIDE in them so that I don't face death. I charge right ahead and fight. I don't use add ons to avoid death and I don't use zergs either.
Nice profanity in the vid.
Can't you two just go duel and end the forum drama? Loser has to pay the winner 500k.ＦＯＲＵＭＰＬＡＲ
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Yiko✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Clueless would be buying a game that had that in it and then whining about it . That's like buying cod and then flipping out there are sniper rifles in the game . Despite the game clearly saying you can play snipers . That's cluelessness .
No, cluelessness would actually be exactly what I said. You're saying that you weren't mistaken? Did you see the video?
Games change and evolve over time. Hard stacking specific stats wasn't as feasible at release as it is now, obviously. New sets are introduced, level cap is raised, CP is introduced, soft caps are removed, etc. Problems that weren't as much of an issue before can become one with the slightest change.
Your reasoning misses the mark so hard.
I'm not saying, "Get rid of stealth." I'm saying, "Balance this game."
DURR HURR BUT WE CAN'T TALK 'BOUT BALANCIN' IT 'CAUSE WE BOUGHT THE GAME, AND IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE CAN JUST GET OUT.
The game is different than it was at release. Hello?
If you think it's balanced that players with 24k+ health can die in less than a second from an unseen player, I don't know what to tell you.Edited by Yiko on December 22, 2016 8:43PM1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Clueless would be buying a game that had that in it and then whining about it . That's like buying cod and then flipping out there are sniper rifles in the game . Despite the game clearly saying you can play snipers . That's cluelessness .
No, cluelessness would actually be exactly what I said. You're saying that you weren't mistaken? Did you see the video?
Games change and evolve over time. Hard stacking specific stats wasn't as feasible at release as it is now, obviously. New sets are introduced, level cap is raised, CP is introduced, etc. Problems that weren't as much of an issue before can become one with the slightest change.
Your reasoning misses the mark so hard.
I'm not saying, "Get rid of stealth." I'm saying, "Balance this game."
DURR HURR BUT WE CAN'T TALK 'BOUT BALANCIN' IT 'CAUSE WE BOUGHT THE GAME, AND IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE CAN JUST GET OUT.
The game is different than it was at release. Hello?
If you think it's balanced that players with 24k+ health can die in less than a second from an unseen player, I don't know what to tell you.
Well there you have it Captain Clue . In your own words . Game was much more balanced at start . So .. do we blame the old mechanics or the new ? Do we nerf stealth to fix CP and gear sets ? If they did then that would be like throwing out the sink because the toilet backed up .
And for a real Hurr Durr moment go back and read my other post . I already said the new sets were the problem and we need more balancing . So before you even try the hello mcfly garbage , read .
It is true though that even though the game is better balanced at start , one shot ganking has been around a long time for those that don't keep their guard up . So don't jump my ship about stealth over Wrobel boo boos stacking up . Blame the Wrobel boo boos .Edited by Rohamad_Ali on December 22, 2016 8:51PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If you seriously think it's ok to run an addon that lets you know someone is stealthed around you and can sometimes even warn you before they attack just because you don't like the current balance , then we have nothing more to discuss . The ZOS won't fix it so I will attitude is not one we are ever going to share my friends , ever .1 -
Yiko✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Well there you have it Captain Clue . In your own words . Game was much more balanced at start . So .. do we blame the old mechanics or the new ? Do we nerf stealth to fix CP and gear sets ? If they did then that would be like throwing out the sink because the toilet backed up .
And for a real Hurr Durr moment go back and read my other post . I already said the new sets were the problem and we need more balancing . So before you even try the hello mcfly garbage , read .
It is true though that even though the game is better balanced at start , one shot ganking has been around a long time for those that don't keep their guard up . So don't jump my ship about stealth over Wrobel boo boos stacking up . Blame the Wrobel boo boos .
In my own words, huh? Where did I ever say that the game was much more balanced at release than it is now? And you're telling me to read? The game was broken at release.
I was addressing a mechanic of stealth. I also implied that the stun, crit, damage modifier were an issue back then as well. It shouldn't be a feature in the first place is what I'm saying. It's just more of a problem now that it was then.
If your solution is to redo/remove sets/CP before this unnecessary (IMO) stealth mechanic, then we're going to have to agree to disagree.1 -
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✭arkansas_ESO wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Oh my god he has a video of a large group vs a large group in eso!!!!! The horror!
Mano, as usual you've missed my point. I have never denied running with groups. I have never denied zerg surfing when it's on the menu for the night. I don't HIDE in them so that I don't face death. I charge right ahead and fight. I don't use add ons to avoid death and I don't use zergs either.
Nice profanity in the vid.
Can't you two just go duel and end the forum drama? Loser has to pay the winner 500k.
He doesn't even have the courage to talk to me in game.
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Magus✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Well there you have it Captain Clue . In your own words . Game was much more balanced at start . So .. do we blame the old mechanics or the new ? Do we nerf stealth to fix CP and gear sets ? If they did then that would be like throwing out the sink because the toilet backed up .
And for a real Hurr Durr moment go back and read my other post . I already said the new sets were the problem and we need more balancing . So before you even try the hello mcfly garbage , read .
It is true though that even though the game is better balanced at start , one shot ganking has been around a long time for those that don't keep their guard up . So don't jump my ship about stealth over Wrobel boo boos stacking up . Blame the Wrobel boo boos .
In my own words, huh? Where did I ever say that the game was much more balanced at release than it is now? And you're telling me to read? The game was broken at release.
I was addressing a mechanic of stealth. I also implied that the stun, crit, damage modifier were an issue back then as well. It shouldn't be a feature in the first place is what I'm saying. It's just more of a problem now that it was then.
If your solution is to redo/remove sets/CP before this unnecessary (IMO) stealth mechanic, then we're going to have to agree to disagree.
Yiko is right. The main issue is the stealth damage bonus modifier stacked with other things. That is an unnecessary game mechanic. Roe, you do acknowledge that exists right? Like you are aware of that game mechanic, right? Your responses didn't seem to indicate so.Duraeon / Maoh
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Well there you have it Captain Clue . In your own words . Game was much more balanced at start . So .. do we blame the old mechanics or the new ? Do we nerf stealth to fix CP and gear sets ? If they did then that would be like throwing out the sink because the toilet backed up .
And for a real Hurr Durr moment go back and read my other post . I already said the new sets were the problem and we need more balancing . So before you even try the hello mcfly garbage , read .
It is true though that even though the game is better balanced at start , one shot ganking has been around a long time for those that don't keep their guard up . So don't jump my ship about stealth over Wrobel boo boos stacking up . Blame the Wrobel boo boos .
In my own words, huh? Where did I ever say that the game was much more balanced at release than it is now? And you're telling me to read? The game was broken at release.
I was addressing a mechanic of stealth. I also implied that the stun, crit, damage modifier were an issue back then as well. It shouldn't be a feature in the first place is what I'm saying. It's just more of a problem now that it was then.
If your solution is to redo/remove sets/CP before this unnecessary (IMO) stealth mechanic, then we're going to have to agree to disagree.
"Problems that weren't as much of an issue before can become one with the slightest change." <-- Your words .
I took this as meaning more balanced or less unbalanced .
I do believe sets need to be rebalanced . I'm not the only one . Even Wrobel has hinted they have plans to address them . Some races like mine are specifically made to compliment stealth attacks . We will agree to disagree with removing my racial bonuses .
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Well there you have it Captain Clue . In your own words . Game was much more balanced at start . So .. do we blame the old mechanics or the new ? Do we nerf stealth to fix CP and gear sets ? If they did then that would be like throwing out the sink because the toilet backed up .
And for a real Hurr Durr moment go back and read my other post . I already said the new sets were the problem and we need more balancing . So before you even try the hello mcfly garbage , read .
It is true though that even though the game is better balanced at start , one shot ganking has been around a long time for those that don't keep their guard up . So don't jump my ship about stealth over Wrobel boo boos stacking up . Blame the Wrobel boo boos .
In my own words, huh? Where did I ever say that the game was much more balanced at release than it is now? And you're telling me to read? The game was broken at release.
I was addressing a mechanic of stealth. I also implied that the stun, crit, damage modifier were an issue back then as well. It shouldn't be a feature in the first place is what I'm saying. It's just more of a problem now that it was then.
If your solution is to redo/remove sets/CP before this unnecessary (IMO) stealth mechanic, then we're going to have to agree to disagree.
Yiko is right. The main issue is the stealth damage bonus modifier stacked with other things. That is an unnecessary game mechanic. Roe, you do acknowledge that exists right? Like you are aware of that game mechanic, right? Your responses didn't seem to indicate so.
The game has always had a bonus for stealth attack . That's how I get a stun in with concealed weapon too . It's been there since launch . I too get attacked from stealth and have to deal with it . It's nothing new . Now a single puncture attack double procing vipers and Selene ... now that's new . That's were I point my bs finger lol1 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Crispen_Longbow wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Speaking of sorcs...I came across an unkillable sorc for the first time in a long time last night. Dude had it all-pets and mines and no matter what was thrown his way he was tankier than even escorpiao. It was bizarre. Since when can sorcs facetank for several minutes in the face of thoubsands of collective crit hits? Just bizarre.
I remember a few sorcs that were super tanky, Blinxey, Bishop of Souls, German etc. These guys were just beasts to kill. I never did learn what build they ran. They all decided to leave the game and never provided a parting build video for the new players to improve. They will be missed.
Idk abou Blinxey and Bishop but German's build was simple as hell.
People think too much of a build and not the player lol. Most 'op' builds are just a standard build with a small change, such as engine in German's case, or a different jewellery set in a certain EU sorc's duelists case. Doesn't make them op, they just use a simple build and fit other parts in to fit their play style and are actual good players lol.
i think you missed the dramatic irony behind his post. The first two sorcs mentioned might be even consider our founding fathers of CE.
As I said, I don't know who they are lol, not sure why German was put into that post either if they were the "founding fathers of CE".0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »As I said, I don't know who they are lol, not sure why German was put into that post either if they were the "founding fathers of CE".
Probably because he was banned for using CE at least once. But that's just a guess.5