Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
starkerealm wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Prize boxes on Lord of the rings , Prize boxes in secret world , Age of Conan .. All dead after words .
http://massivelyop.com/2016/06/10/age-of-conans-revamped-item-shop-draws-ire-from-players/
Ummm
all 3 of the games you just listed are still alive.
In fact F2P with things like Lockboxes are why they're still alive.
TSW's a ghost town, man. I don't know about LOTR, though I haven't heard complimentary things. Age of Conan was desolate the last time I logged, but it's been a few years.
Hell, Funcom's trying to make a survival sandbox game out of its assets, and already did use TSW's assets in a cheap spinoff game. I don't know how bad the situation is over there, but it's not good.
Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Prize boxes on Lord of the rings , Prize boxes in secret world , Age of Conan .. All dead after words .
http://massivelyop.com/2016/06/10/age-of-conans-revamped-item-shop-draws-ire-from-players/
Ummm
all 3 of the games you just listed are still alive.
In fact F2P with things like Lockboxes are why they're still alive.
Unhu ... Sure they are . Alive with a handful of players left . Look at what happened before they left in droves . Lock boxes , F2P ... Deserted by all but the most die hard fans . Try getting a group together in those . You'll waste most of your night . I know because ai still have accounts in all of them and log in once in a blue moon to look at the wasteland that was once a great game filled with players .
The players in all of them asked constantly for bug fixes and decent content but got rewarded with fancy cloths and mounts in lock boxes instead . The smart left early .
starkerealm wrote: »
Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Prize boxes on Lord of the rings , Prize boxes in secret world , Age of Conan .. All dead after words .
http://massivelyop.com/2016/06/10/age-of-conans-revamped-item-shop-draws-ire-from-players/
Ummm
all 3 of the games you just listed are still alive.
In fact F2P with things like Lockboxes are why they're still alive.
Unhu ... Sure they are . Alive with a handful of players left . Look at what happened before they left in droves . Lock boxes , F2P ... Deserted by all but the most die hard fans . Try getting a group together in those . You'll waste most of your night . I know because ai still have accounts in all of them and log in once in a blue moon to look at the wasteland that was once a great game filled with players .
The players in all of them asked constantly for bug fixes and decent content but got rewarded with fancy cloths and mounts in lock boxes instead . The smart left early .
captainwolfos wrote: »Tentative 'yes'
I'd only be cool with this if they're relatively cheap, and there's absolutely no way of getting duplicates. Also absolutely no pay to win, because that would be utterly skeevy.
That being said, getting a banker or something for like 500 crowns or whatever would be awesome, but at the same time would really suck for people who forked out £40 for them.
This is something I'm going to be watching carefully, as this could easily go very wrong (see: fricken SWTOR).
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Thanks for your thoughts on the upcoming Crown Crates, everyone. Just want to clarify a few points -
First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.
In the event you get an item that you already own, you can exchange it for a currency called Crown Gems which will allow you to buy a different item of your choice.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
Before name changes were available, people were claiming they would pay anything for the ability to do it..race change, etc. You can always delete and re-roll with a new name if you want. Character name is service/cosmetic and you don't have to use it.
Yes, in my opinion it's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO because it doesn't impact gameplay.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
Before name changes were available, people were claiming they would pay anything for the ability to do it..race change, etc. You can always delete and re-roll with a new name if you want. Character name is service/cosmetic and you don't have to use it.
Yes, in my opinion it's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO because it doesn't impact gameplay.
Yet.
starkerealm wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Prize boxes on Lord of the rings , Prize boxes in secret world , Age of Conan .. All dead after words .
http://massivelyop.com/2016/06/10/age-of-conans-revamped-item-shop-draws-ire-from-players/
Ummm
all 3 of the games you just listed are still alive.
In fact F2P with things like Lockboxes are why they're still alive.
TSW's a ghost town, man. I don't know about LOTR, though I haven't heard complimentary things. Age of Conan was desolate the last time I logged, but it's been a few years.
Hell, Funcom's trying to make a survival sandbox game out of its assets, and already did use TSW's assets in a cheap spinoff game. I don't know how bad the situation is over there, but it's not good.
I've played every single listed; TSW was a ghost town before Lockboxes and would of probably closed down by now if it wasn't for Free 2 Play. It was a very Niche title to begin with..and got a lot of unwarranted *** in my opinion during beta since I thought it was actually an amazing RPG.
LOTRO is chugging along like it always has... Lockboxes haven't managed to kill that game and its been f2p for years... It honestly would probably do better if it had a model update for the actual characters.
Age of Conan has been dead since the beginning and its massive screwups at the beginning of the game..It never recovered from its poor start and the only way its alive right now is its F2P system....Look at something that launched around the same time and didn't go F2P and see how it ended up (Warhammer Online)....and remember the Community absolutely Begged Mythic to make WAR F2P.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
Before name changes were available, people were claiming they would pay anything for the ability to do it..race change, etc. You can always delete and re-roll with a new name if you want. Character name is service/cosmetic and you don't have to use it.
Yes, in my opinion it's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO because it doesn't impact gameplay.
Yet.
And I've seen nothing to indicate that will ever change. When the cash shop first went live, the potions in the store were better than player made. I posted about it and they immediately took those items out of the shop until they were fixed to be less powerful than player made potions.
Yea, I have a reason to have faith they will do a good job. Their awesome track record.
Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Prize boxes on Lord of the rings , Prize boxes in secret world , Age of Conan .. All dead after words .
http://massivelyop.com/2016/06/10/age-of-conans-revamped-item-shop-draws-ire-from-players/
Ummm
all 3 of the games you just listed are still alive.
In fact F2P with things like Lockboxes are why they're still alive.
Unhu ... Sure they are . Alive with a handful of players left . Look at what happened before they left in droves . Lock boxes , F2P ... Deserted by all but the most die hard fans . Try getting a group together in those . You'll waste most of your night . I know because ai still have accounts in all of them and log in once in a blue moon to look at the wasteland that was once a great game filled with players .
The players in all of them asked constantly for bug fixes and decent content but got rewarded with fancy cloths and mounts in lock boxes instead . The smart left early .
TSW was a ghost town even before f2p lol, Age of conan had that insta max level and royal treasure chest wich seems more bada than a cosmetic loot box...
Esquire1980g_ESO wrote: »Esquire1980g_ESO wrote: »Esquire1980g_ESO wrote: »From the percentages I'm seeing, looks like ZOS might have a bit of a NGE on their hands. (67%)
Hope it works out better for ZOS heads than it did for Smed. Sony sold Smed right out from under him, the new owners sent him home, and he didn't get enough of crowd funding to do a 2D game.
Adding boxes to a game is nowhere NEAR or even in the same BALLPARK as the NGE was.....
It is if 67% look the other way. Unless of course they are as willing as Rubinfield was to get rid of the existing player base thinking they'll get a boat-load more.
Adding boxes to the game with pretty outfits and mounts and pets is not the same as changing the entire games combat system ENTIRELY and changing the game from 34 professions (classes) down to only 10. Please explain to me how someone riding around on a mount you cant get because you dont want to spend money is really breaking your game.
The NGE was quite literally game breaking, this is just fluff.
"Game breaking" is a matter of opinion. If you were there, you seen the SOE defence force come out in droves to back SOE at the time also via the forums. It came out later some of them were paid employees posting under an assumed name. Some of the ones that were actual later became "senators" in the NGE. I stayed for just about the entire 9 years, so while I surely didn't like it one bit, it just was not all that "game breaking" for me at least. What was game breaking was the 60-70% of the "goodbye" mails on my friends list. That one, SWG never rebounded from. You want that here?
It didn't and doesn't matter how large or even what the "CHANGE" was or is, it's the playerbase and how they handle or not handle it. SOE didn't get that thru their heads until T2 took over as Producer, and that was only after they did it all over again with the Chapter 6 Combat Downgrade in the NGE. And another 1/2 to 2/3rds took off, yet again and again, not coming back from that one either.
You honestly bought into the SOE arguments of "It wasn't the change, it was how we handled it" by not giving notice to the players that the game was changing?
You obviously didnt have a jedi before this, nor did you hologrind for two years to get a jedi, only to have lightsabers handed out to anyone that downloaded the game. That, indeed was gamebreaking. Changing it essentially from being a sandbox to a themepark was indeed gamebreaking. They changed the entire game from what it was, the NGE was the very definition of game breaking. Having someone ride around in a super rare mount by spending money they earned and have the right to spend, is not.
Every Single MMO you listed had their players leave in droves before F2P came along..Hell AOC lost like 80% of its subscribers in like the first 2 months alone.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
I see you are new here, and havent had the pleasure of being with this game since launch. Zenimax has been the BEST at listening and actually changing things based on player opinions. I have played pretty much every game with a cash shop and I can tell you, this is one of the most tastefull, and most well done cash shop I have ever experienced. None of the things you can purchase impact your gameplay. All it will really do is give you mount envy when you see someone riding around that super rare mount.
Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Prize boxes on Lord of the rings , Prize boxes in secret world , Age of Conan .. All dead after words .
http://massivelyop.com/2016/06/10/age-of-conans-revamped-item-shop-draws-ire-from-players/
Ummm
all 3 of the games you just listed are still alive.
In fact F2P with things like Lockboxes are why they're still alive.
Unhu ... Sure they are . Alive with a handful of players left . Look at what happened before they left in droves . Lock boxes , F2P ... Deserted by all but the most die hard fans . Try getting a group together in those . You'll waste most of your night . I know because ai still have accounts in all of them and log in once in a blue moon to look at the wasteland that was once a great game filled with players .
The players in all of them asked constantly for bug fixes and decent content but got rewarded with fancy cloths and mounts in lock boxes instead . The smart left early .
TSW was a ghost town even before f2p lol, Age of conan had that insta max level and royal treasure chest wich seems more bada than a cosmetic loot box...
I just want to say the fact that TSW was a ghost town before f2p is one of the biggest travesties i've seen in MMOs to date.
The combat wasn't revolutionary but man was it an amazing game.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
Before name changes were available, people were claiming they would pay anything for the ability to do it..race change, etc. You can always delete and re-roll with a new name if you want. Character name is service/cosmetic and you don't have to use it.
Yes, in my opinion it's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO because it doesn't impact gameplay.
Yet.
And I've seen nothing to indicate that will ever change. When the cash shop first went live, the potions in the store were better than player made. I posted about it and they immediately took those items out of the shop until they were fixed to be less powerful than player made potions.
Yea, I have a reason to have faith they will do a good job. Their awesome track record.
Keep telling yourself that if that's what you truely believe. But personally? The ammount of people who are saying "I have seen it happen before" are not saying that for cheap kicks.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
Before name changes were available, people were claiming they would pay anything for the ability to do it..race change, etc. You can always delete and re-roll with a new name if you want. Character name is service/cosmetic and you don't have to use it.
Yes, in my opinion it's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO because it doesn't impact gameplay.
Yet.
And I've seen nothing to indicate that will ever change. When the cash shop first went live, the potions in the store were better than player made. I posted about it and they immediately took those items out of the shop until they were fixed to be less powerful than player made potions.
Yea, I have a reason to have faith they will do a good job. Their awesome track record.
Keep telling yourself that if that's what you truely believe. But personally? The ammount of people who are saying "I have seen it happen before" are not saying that for cheap kicks.
I have a bunch of other facettes as well - it is not even psychology, but psychiatry - ICD is a disorder, a medical condition and that means it belongs to psychiatry, and not psychology. I have some professional knowledge about addiction based processes in the signal pathways of the brain - I am an Bioinformatician. I had as well lessons in Jura (which is "law") in university, even this was just for 2 semesters, covering the basics of german BGB, HGB and laws related to employment, because I wanted to have some basic knowledge for when I will found my own company. Things like the history of the Rothschild family should be common knowledge - they were the dominating private bankers in the 19th century.
So what is to laugh about that?- I think you have no idea of any of this and that makes you trying to ridicule me.
Excuse me, english its not my first nor second language, thanks for the correction.
Sorry I just find funny that you are bringing all these "i am very smart" arguments into a videogame discussion, that medical condition one was just the most hilarious.
Also, sorry for he off-topic, my bad.
Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
Before name changes were available, people were claiming they would pay anything for the ability to do it..race change, etc. You can always delete and re-roll with a new name if you want. Character name is service/cosmetic and you don't have to use it.
Yes, in my opinion it's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO because it doesn't impact gameplay.
Yet.
And I've seen nothing to indicate that will ever change. When the cash shop first went live, the potions in the store were better than player made. I posted about it and they immediately took those items out of the shop until they were fixed to be less powerful than player made potions.
Yea, I have a reason to have faith they will do a good job. Their awesome track record.
Keep telling yourself that if that's what you truely believe. But personally? The ammount of people who are saying "I have seen it happen before" are not saying that for cheap kicks.
I'm glad you jumped into the game and decided to participate on the forums. But I've been here since beta and I've seen the game go buy to play, and the cash shop added, and now lock boxes. The game play is still the same and the team has listened to feed back and tread very carefully. I don't see that changing.
Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I know what happened with those other games lol
I was there . I know why I left and I know why everyone on the forums left because I WAS THERE . lol
Say what ever you want . You're still just ...
Maybe you're happy and won't leave . Good . The problem is your not in the majority
An that's when development tanks .
starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Prize boxes on Lord of the rings , Prize boxes in secret world , Age of Conan .. All dead after words .
http://massivelyop.com/2016/06/10/age-of-conans-revamped-item-shop-draws-ire-from-players/
Ummm
all 3 of the games you just listed are still alive.
In fact F2P with things like Lockboxes are why they're still alive.
TSW's a ghost town, man. I don't know about LOTR, though I haven't heard complimentary things. Age of Conan was desolate the last time I logged, but it's been a few years.
Hell, Funcom's trying to make a survival sandbox game out of its assets, and already did use TSW's assets in a cheap spinoff game. I don't know how bad the situation is over there, but it's not good.
I've played every single listed; TSW was a ghost town before Lockboxes and would of probably closed down by now if it wasn't for Free 2 Play. It was a very Niche title to begin with..and got a lot of unwarranted *** in my opinion during beta since I thought it was actually an amazing RPG.
LOTRO is chugging along like it always has... Lockboxes haven't managed to kill that game and its been f2p for years... It honestly would probably do better if it had a model update for the actual characters.
Age of Conan has been dead since the beginning and its massive screwups at the beginning of the game..It never recovered from its poor start and the only way its alive right now is its F2P system....Look at something that launched around the same time and didn't go F2P and see how it ended up (Warhammer Online)....and remember the Community absolutely Begged Mythic to make WAR F2P.
You don't suppose Conan's issues and TSW's issues had anything to do with Bylos repeatedly piloting his games into walls, do you? He was the one responsible for the 20-40 content in AoC... you know, the content that didn't exist. Also the TSW gates, that would smear anyone who wasn't brutally minmaxing.
With TSW, the introduction of grab bags coincided with the introduction of the augment grinding. The grinding is what killed the community. Funcom tried to lure people to the bags by sticking augments in them, but it didn't work, and a lot of the long term players managed to burn out. I watched it happen.
Used to be there was a coherent community floating around. The zones were desolate, but there were players. The last couple times I logged in? Not so much.
The introduction of bags did change the game, from a development perspective, and not for the better.
I don't know what the hell happened with Warhammer Online... but from what I know of Games Workshop's licensing practices, I doubt they had the ability to make it F2P. EA was certainly willing to kick games over that threshold when they had the option, so I don't think that was the issue at all.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Nero fiddles.
Rome burns.
I'd love to see ZOS comment on this without the intent to shut the thread down. Would let me know whether or not to pack bags or not.
Nothing is burning. Everyone reacted the same way with the cash shop and It's the most ethical and well done cash shop in an MMO in my opinion. I think ZOS will comment and they won't shut down the thread. After how they have handled the cash shop, I have faith they will handle this well also.
You call 25 bucks for a namechange ethical?
While there are very few problems with it, it's arrival marked a time when people started to begin to question whether or not ZOS was even lisening to us. It's become almost a meme now, that ZOS dosent lisen to player feedback.
So no. It is burning. Because even the people who trust ZOS are going "...Uhh. What."
I see you are new here, and havent had the pleasure of being with this game since launch. Zenimax has been the BEST at listening and actually changing things based on player opinions. I have played pretty much every game with a cash shop and I can tell you, this is one of the most tastefull, and most well done cash shop I have ever experienced. None of the things you can purchase impact your gameplay. All it will really do is give you mount envy when you see someone riding around that super rare mount.
Actually I was.
I bought the game once at launch, played in Beta actually, came back with Tamriel Unlimited. And since then, I have watched this game go down hill.
Nice try, cupcake.
Sorry to jump in ...don't want to be rude....but aren't we now going a bit off the main topic with the assumptions, conspiracy theory, and sarcasm in this thread?