What do you think of Crown Store Random boxes/Lottery box?

LadyNalcarya

No, don't ever add these into the game.

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Krileon wrote: »

You've lost my respect. Gamble boxes fuel an extremely unhealthy behavior. They're a slippery slope that there's no recovering from. RIGHT NOW they're just cosmetics. Then they contain other bonuses. Then they contain an exclusive set. It's all downhill. I've no respect for any developer who even remotely thinks gamble boxes are a good idea and are healthy for the community.

Here's an idea. STOP. CYCLING. COSMETICS. If I want to buy a lightning horse let me buy a lightning horse. Don't remove it from the shop for "exclusivity". Instead do a sale. 30% of for 1 month a year for lightning horse. You don't understand how many cosmetics I'd of bought if you'd stop removing them.

Thanks for ruining my one and only MMO that I still had hope for. I guess I'll just be done with MMOs. You've ruined my last bit of passion for MMOs.

+another idea, fix the quality of cash shop costumes.
I didnt buy any of the costumes that lacked female meshes, and will not buy those "wooden stick ponytail" or "french poodle" haircuts. I wont buy those rng boxes as well, because this way to sell content is just as anti-consumer as it can get. I like supporting the game, but I'm not gonna buy low quality items or support gambling.

Rohamad_Ali

No, don't ever add these into the game.

k9mouse wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

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Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for your thoughts on the upcoming Crown Crates, everyone. Just want to clarify a few points -

First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.

In the event you get an item that you already own, you can exchange it for a currency called Crown Gems which will allow you to buy a different item of your choice.

Now, Gina, show that you are honest at ZOS - and give us the chance table for these items - an honest one - this is the only thing to get an acceptance for this and to show that this is not just a blatant cash grab and preying on gambling addicts. Be honest with us and show us, that there is a reasonable chance to get these items, then we might accept it - but if it is like in Archeage with percentages of 0.1%, 0.01% and lower, then this cannot be accepted and some of us will never spend another dime on this game.

Knowing ZOS history with RNG, I expect the worst.

Well, it's their loss - it is about 180,000 crowns, which I will not spend on this game per year, and I would have played for long, but so I will leave when my ESO+ runs out in August 2017 and not spend a single US$ on this game until then - it's their loss.

Not to forget about that bunch of ESO gold edition packs, which I wanted to give as a gift to role play friends around christmas - this will as well not happen now. Nor do I need houses, and I would have bought like 12 of them - if not more - so be it - they do not want my money in a fair deal, they rather go for gamble.

I'm lucky my ESO+ is month by month so I've cancelled. Going to uninstalled tonight, which leaves loads of space for a new game. Might treat myself

Don't be rash and uninstall from game you love . Just don't support monetarily things that are cash grab . Speak out on social media for change and enjoy what you've already purchased . If game goes f2p and gameplay options get locked behind pay wall , then I would uninstall as it is hopeless at that point . Stay vigilant until the time comes my friend .

Indeed @Cazzy, these boxes will not be there in the next few weeks - and the last word about those might not be spoken yet as well. You can still enjoy the game and wait and see - the majority is against it in this poll, maybe ZOS will rethink their stand on this. It might just not be such a good idea as they thought it would be - and maybe they will get this from our reactions.

Points @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom to the poll. ZOS "claims" to listen to our feed back and the major of players are saying "By Oblivion, NO!" This is a good chance for ZOS to prove that they do indeed listen to their players.

They already made the decision and will not revert it . Only can hope F2P doesn't get thrown in with it . Don't support cash grabs . Stay away from it and maybe marketing will get the hint eventually but probably not .

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

milkbox wrote: »

The only 'mystery box' I'll ever buy is from Archie McPhee (they're pretty great).

They are clearly already committed to this path, and maybe a third of the player base really likes this idea. I haven't been personally interested in a lot of the new features being implemented and planned- barber shop, housing, One Tamriel, now lockboxes... none of them are really my bag.

I've always maintained an attitude of "well, if somebody else likes it, it's good for them"- but if they get to the point where they're offering only things that other people like, well... maybe the whole thing isn't my bag.

If I wanted to shop and play house, I'd be in SecondLife. More gameplay, less cosmetics.

just my 2 crowns.

not the worst of ideas to return to SL - at least there I had fun and I have a couple of nice houses - now when I do not spend money on ESO, I can just rent a sim and have some fun there - I am actually thinking about it now.

Abeille

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

@ZOS_GinaBruno , will new limited time mounts/costumes still be added for direct purchase in the Crown Store after these boxes are introduced, or will they be introduced already in the boxes instead? Like, will all new mounts be the "Super Special Mounts"?

I'm just very worried about the Ice Wolf here.

Rohamad_Ali

No, don't ever add these into the game.

In SWTOR community was divided . Half liked idea half didn't . Now the game is so empty you can count one one hand players in new zones and people that supported it crying on forums no one to play with and no more customer support . Players against it warned the supporters they would be on empty servers in a year . They were right . Game went F2P no box sales to try to get people back , didn't work .MMOs are dependent on large populations for group dungeons and PvP to stay healthy . Stupid cash grab argument no one wins , all will lose as population dwindles . Trust history of all games dead from this .

milkbox

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

Lysette wrote: »

not the worst of ideas to return to SL - at least there I had fun and I have a couple of nice houses - now when I do not spend money on ESO, I can just rent a sim and have some fun there - I am actually thinking about it now.

O/T. but I worked for a big company in SL from 2006-2009 and made so much money off that place!

If only I could get paid for playing ESO... sigh...

phreatophile

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I voted no, but not gonna lie, if I can get the Black Senche with them, I'll buy them when I can get discount crowns.

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

milkbox wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

not the worst of ideas to return to SL - at least there I had fun and I have a couple of nice houses - now when I do not spend money on ESO, I can just rent a sim and have some fun there - I am actually thinking about it now.

O/T. but I worked for a big company in SL from 2006-2009 and made so much money off that place!

If only I could get paid for playing ESO... sigh...

Maybe the same I would rent a sim from - one of the Ashe Chung clones, which hold her estates,. Was always a good service, fast delivery and no hassle and reasonably priced.

Annalyse

No, don't ever add these into the game.

No, no, no, a thousand times no.

These were introduced in the last game I played. Exclusive items were added and then even gear, and that started the game's downhill spiral.

I don't care if they even plan to have only cosmetic items or harmless things for now... things change. Please do not bring these into ESO. I don't want to see my favorite game destroyed like so many others.

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Well, I am already emotionally detaching from ESO - not really in the mood to even login today. It somewhat feels like when you realize that you are living with the wrong partner, you do not want to believe it at first, but you feel it more and more - and it hurts more to stay than to eventually go. You don't want to, but you have to, for your own sake - and I have such a feeling currently and this is not making me happy.

NewbieOKS

No, don't ever add these into the game.

@Rohamad_Ali

Are you sure about this?

With all due respect, with the ongoing heat of this thread and in reddit right now, I think the developers won't just sitting and taking no response at all... The majority of the polls results said No

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

k9mouse wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

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Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for your thoughts on the upcoming Crown Crates, everyone. Just want to clarify a few points -

First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.

In the event you get an item that you already own, you can exchange it for a currency called Crown Gems which will allow you to buy a different item of your choice.

Now, Gina, show that you are honest at ZOS - and give us the chance table for these items - an honest one - this is the only thing to get an acceptance for this and to show that this is not just a blatant cash grab and preying on gambling addicts. Be honest with us and show us, that there is a reasonable chance to get these items, then we might accept it - but if it is like in Archeage with percentages of 0.1%, 0.01% and lower, then this cannot be accepted and some of us will never spend another dime on this game.

Knowing ZOS history with RNG, I expect the worst.

Well, it's their loss - it is about 180,000 crowns, which I will not spend on this game per year, and I would have played for long, but so I will leave when my ESO+ runs out in August 2017 and not spend a single US$ on this game until then - it's their loss.

Not to forget about that bunch of ESO gold edition packs, which I wanted to give as a gift to role play friends around christmas - this will as well not happen now. Nor do I need houses, and I would have bought like 12 of them - if not more - so be it - they do not want my money in a fair deal, they rather go for gamble.

I'm lucky my ESO+ is month by month so I've cancelled. Going to uninstalled tonight, which leaves loads of space for a new game. Might treat myself

Don't be rash and uninstall from game you love . Just don't support monetarily things that are cash grab . Speak out on social media for change and enjoy what you've already purchased . If game goes f2p and gameplay options get locked behind pay wall , then I would uninstall as it is hopeless at that point . Stay vigilant until the time comes my friend .

Indeed @Cazzy, these boxes will not be there in the next few weeks - and the last word about those might not be spoken yet as well. You can still enjoy the game and wait and see - the majority is against it in this poll, maybe ZOS will rethink their stand on this. It might just not be such a good idea as they thought it would be - and maybe they will get this from our reactions.

Points @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom to the poll. ZOS "claims" to listen to our feed back and the major of players are saying "By Oblivion, NO!" This is a good chance for ZOS to prove that they do indeed listen to their players.

They already made the decision and will not revert it . Only can hope F2P doesn't get thrown in with it . Don't support cash grabs . Stay away from it and maybe marketing will get the hint eventually but probably not .

Zeddakis

No, don't ever add these into the game.

ZOS_PeterT wrote: »

"Although we understand some are upset"

I ran this through my cracker jack decoder ring and here is what came out....We know some of you don't like this, but the people who handle the money here don't care.

I'm sure most of the devs and team don't like this direction as it gives the game they have worked so hard on a negative perception, but the money people who have not worked the long hours or invested their lives in the game don't care what they think either.

Cazzy

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Lysette wrote: »

Well, I am already emotionally detaching from ESO - not really in the mood to even login today. It somewhat feels like when you realize that you are living with the wrong partner, you do not want to believe it at first, but you feel it more and more - and it hurts more to stay than to eventually go. You don't want to, but you have to, for your own sake - and I have such a feeling currently and this is not making me happy.

That's how I'm feeling.

Altercator

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Zeddakis wrote: »

ZOS_PeterT wrote: »

"Although we understand some are upset"

I ran this through my cracker jack decoder ring and here is what came out....We know some of you don't like this, but the people who handle the money here don't care.

I'm sure most of the devs and team don't like this direction as it gives the game they have worked so hard on a negative perception, but the money people who have no worked the long hours or invested their lives in the game don't care what they think either.

It's just bad business.

Roechacca

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Way to shot yourself in the foot Zennimax. Haven't even launched this crap and already getting jumped for it. Who's the PR genius that green lit this announcement? I'd fire that Bozo. Don't you know you're suppose to sneak this garbage in like a good thief? Too many good MMOs out there to worry your heads over this one. As someone else said this is just becoming an APP Game.

We have bugs still in game since beta but if that crown store gets wonky.. BAM! A dozen techs are on it. Hahahaha What a joke this management has become.

code65536

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

I despise gambling and will never purchase these boxes. I won't go as far as to say that others shouldn't be allowed to gamble on them. But I would never touch them out of principle.

Plus, they sounds like a very bad proposition. I don't want crown potions or crown foods, as they are inferior to craftables. And if I get a duplicate, I'm to exchange it for a lesser, less useful form of currency? There is nothing appealing about any of this, frankly.

Altercator

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I don't understand why they can't be a normal business and just sell a product.

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Zeddakis wrote: »

ZOS_PeterT wrote: »

"Although we understand some are upset"

I ran this through my cracker jack decoder ring and here is what came out....We know some of you don't like this, but the people who handle the money here don't care.

I'm sure most of the devs and team don't like this direction as it gives the game they have worked so hard on a negative perception, but the money people who have no worked the long hours or invested their lives in the game don't care what they think either.

The problem here is that they DO NOT UNDERSTAND why we are upset - if they would understand it, they would rethink their decision. You are possibly right, they just do not care - I just wonder if this is, because they game is not doing as well as they claim. Maybe the first ROI to the investors is up to be paid out and their wallet is not showing the "healthy" sign. Maybe that is a desperate move from the management, which sits on the ejection seat and does not want to experience how this seat works. I really have my doubts now about how healthy this game really is - it has enough players, but maybe not enough who are paying on a regular basis.

And thinking about it my conscience is whispering to me "don't feed the dead dog, don't feed the dead dog" - maybe I really shouldn't.

Esquire1980g_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for your thoughts on the upcoming Crown Crates, everyone. Just want to clarify a few points -

First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.

In the event you get an item that you already own, you can exchange it for a currency called Crown Gems which will allow you to buy a different item of your choice.

Sorry Gina, but I've seen this way too many times now.

SWG started the same thing with "The Card Game" and said almost to the tee what you have posted here. After no1 bought the cards, the mysteriously included "buff cards" (power). BTW, "The Card Game", even with selling power, did NOT save the game for SOE and it closed a couple of years later. Everyone knows that SOE was sold by Sony and Daybreak just cancelled their "new" games.

I was beta for STO, bought the lifer sub ($300.00 list price). STO had the absolute best PVP (space) before F2P of ANY MMO I've ever played. Then, came "lockboxes". About the same kind of post you've made here also, "all cosmetics included". No1 bought the keys and ships got included. Now? The store is the ONLY way to progress your player character. Out of there and I'm supposed to have thousands of store points over there from my "lifer". It's not fun in PVP to NOT have the latest and greatest and it's also NOT fun to see the guys try and PVP without all the sold power and get nothing more than "vaped" due to it. (1-shot kills). So, PVP died over there, so much in fact, that a developer came to the PVP forums and made a post of "we could take PVP out of the game and no1 would even notice".

SWTOR? Thank God I wasn't around to see that fiasco with their "Gambling boxes". Was 1 of the millions who left in the 1st 90 days. (and I played Galaxies for 9 years). I still ck the forums every now and then, along with TOR status, and from the status, it appears that TOR can't even fill 2 servers now after starting with how many? 300+?.

ESO? I'm subbed, bought a costume, got a mount, got 1 of the pets, bought the banker, and the merchant. Bought the imp addition recently. (days ago) so I'm not adverse to paying for things, nor do I believe that F2P players should get everything without supporting the people who put the game out. However, I'm surely NOT going to sit back and watch a game I'm invested in (AGAIN) have management and developers totally destroy their own creation yet again. ZOS may start off by saying "cosmetics only" but power WILL BE INCLUDED, you can bet on it and have a safer bet than what you'll EVER get out of a lockbox.

There's a reason why your management/developers are going to this and I would imagine that the reasoning is the same as the reasoning will be for selling power, and the exact same reason why all these other games have lost with this also, "No-one is buying the cosmetics". And that justification is enough for you guys to go down the same exact road that these other developers/studios went down.

Even with just this announcement, I have lost about 95% of my interest in this game and if my sub survives the day, I'll be surprised.

petraeus1

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

Lysette wrote: »

Zeddakis wrote: »

ZOS_PeterT wrote: »

"Although we understand some are upset"

I ran this through my cracker jack decoder ring and here is what came out....We know some of you don't like this, but the people who handle the money here don't care.

I'm sure most of the devs and team don't like this direction as it gives the game they have worked so hard on a negative perception, but the money people who have no worked the long hours or invested their lives in the game don't care what they think either.

The problem here is that they DO NOT UNDERSTAND why we are upset - if they would understand it, they would rethink their decision. You are possibly right, they just do not care - I just wonder if this is, because they game is not doing as well as they claim. Maybe the first ROI to the investors is up to be paid out and their wallet is not showing the "healthy" sign. Maybe that is a desperate move from the management, which sits on the ejection seat and does not want to experience how this seat works. I really have my doubts now about how healthy this game really is - it has enough players, but maybe not enough who are paying on a regular basis.

And thinking about it my conscience is whispering to me "don't feed the dead dog, don't feed the dead dog" - maybe I really shouldn't.

Speculation as to how well this game is doing is speculation, but frankly when I survey the interest ESO gets on reddit and MMO press websites compared to other MMOs, it suggests ESO is actually one of the more succesful Western MMORPGs.

Besides, to quote a redditor from r/mmorpg:

"So basically b2p + subscription + dlc + cash shop (mounts,costume,motifs,emotes,hair style) + RNG box
Thats so much $$"

Gamble boxes generate a lot of revenue for many games (games like DOTA 2 basically live off them), the most likely reason why they're being introduced is ZOS wants to try this gold mine for themselves.

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Cazzy wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Well, I am already emotionally detaching from ESO - not really in the mood to even login today. It somewhat feels like when you realize that you are living with the wrong partner, you do not want to believe it at first, but you feel it more and more - and it hurts more to stay than to eventually go. You don't want to, but you have to, for your own sake - and I have such a feeling currently and this is not making me happy.

That's how I'm feeling.

Yeah, I understood that instantly when I read your post.

zulikab14_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Crap! Just when I was getting back into the game.
Now I feel bad about buying that long term sub as I do not want to support this any longer.

Rohamad_Ali

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Esquire1980g_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for your thoughts on the upcoming Crown Crates, everyone. Just want to clarify a few points -

First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.

In the event you get an item that you already own, you can exchange it for a currency called Crown Gems which will allow you to buy a different item of your choice.

Sorry Gina, but I've seen this way too many times now.

SWG started the same thing with "The Card Game" and said almost to the tee what you have posted here. After no1 bought the cards, the mysteriously included "buff cards" (power). BTW, "The Card Game", even with selling power, did NOT save the game for SOE and it closed a couple of years later. Everyone knows that SOE was sold by Sony and Daybreak just cancelled their "new" games.

I was beta for STO, bought the lifer sub ($300.00 list price). STO had the absolute best PVP (space) before F2P of ANY MMO I've ever played. Then, came "lockboxes". About the same kind of post you've made here also, "all cosmetics included". No1 bought the keys and ships got included. Now? The store is the ONLY way to progress your player character. Out of there and I'm supposed to have thousands of store points over there from my "lifer". It's not fun in PVP to NOT have the latest and greatest and it's also NOT fun to see the guys try and PVP without all the sold power and get nothing more than "vaped" due to it. (1-shot kills). So, PVP died over there, so much in fact, that a developer came to the PVP forums and made a post of "we could take PVP out of the game and no1 would even notice".

SWTOR? Thank God I wasn't around to see that fiasco with their "Gambling boxes". Was 1 of the millions who left in the 1st 90 days. (and I played Galaxies for 9 years). I still ck the forums every now and then, along with TOR status, and from the status, it appears that TOR can't even fill 2 servers now after starting with how many? 300+?.

ESO? I'm subbed, bought a costume, got a mount, got 1 of the pets, bought the banker, and the merchant. Bought the imp addition recently. (days ago) so I'm not adverse to paying for things, nor do I believe that F2P players should get everything without supporting the people who put the game out. However, I'm surely NOT going to sit back and watch a game I'm invested in (AGAIN) have management and developers totally destroy their own creation yet again. ZOS may start off by saying "cosmetics only" but power WILL BE INCLUDED, you can bet on it and have a safer bet than what you'll EVER get out of a lockbox.

There's a reason why your management/developers are going to this and I would imagine that the reasoning is the same as the reasoning will be for selling power, and the exact same reason why all these other games have lost with this also, "No-one is buying the cosmetics". And that justification is enough for you guys to go down the same exact road that these other developers/studios went down.

Even with just this announcement, I have lost about 95% of my interest in this game and if my sub survives the day, I'll be surprised.

So much truth . Great post .

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

petraeus1 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Zeddakis wrote: »

ZOS_PeterT wrote: »

"Although we understand some are upset"

I ran this through my cracker jack decoder ring and here is what came out....We know some of you don't like this, but the people who handle the money here don't care.

I'm sure most of the devs and team don't like this direction as it gives the game they have worked so hard on a negative perception, but the money people who have no worked the long hours or invested their lives in the game don't care what they think either.

The problem here is that they DO NOT UNDERSTAND why we are upset - if they would understand it, they would rethink their decision. You are possibly right, they just do not care - I just wonder if this is, because they game is not doing as well as they claim. Maybe the first ROI to the investors is up to be paid out and their wallet is not showing the "healthy" sign. Maybe that is a desperate move from the management, which sits on the ejection seat and does not want to experience how this seat works. I really have my doubts now about how healthy this game really is - it has enough players, but maybe not enough who are paying on a regular basis.

And thinking about it my conscience is whispering to me "don't feed the dead dog, don't feed the dead dog" - maybe I really shouldn't.

Speculation as to how well this game is doing is speculation, but frankly when I survey the interest ESO gets on reddit and MMO press websites compared to other MMOs, it suggests ESO is actually one of the more succesful Western MMORPGs.

Besides, to quote a redditor from r/mmorpg:

"So basically b2p + subscription + dlc + cash shop (mounts,costume,motifs,emotes,hair style) + RNG box
Thats so much $$"

Gamble boxes generate a lot of revenue for many games (games like DOTA 2 basically live off them), the most likely reason why they're being introduced is ZOS wants to try this gold mine for themselves.

They can do that of course - but i will not support this and latest when my ESO+ runs out I am gone - if not before, I am not sure I even want to stay for this year ESO+ is still active - I'll give it a try, but I do not have high hopes for staying that long.

And of course there is interest into this topic on reddit - because this is not a good sign and people are concerned - ZOS had always a greedy tendency, but this is putting it on a new level of greed and exploitation (of addicts). That ZOS has to do that is really worrying me. Maybe they just do it, because it is ok and accepted to prey on customers in the US, but it is certainly not ok in Europe and disgusting.

danno8

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Can you imagine walking into a store wanting to buy that newest graphics card, but the only way to buy it was to purchase a box of random old cards, RAM and cables with a 1% chance that the card you want is thrown in there?

Don't worry though, if you don't get the card you want you can exchange your stuff for some in-store currency and select from the box in the corner over there full of different old garbage that you probably also have no need for or want.

Best part is you can always try again! It's all in the name of fun!

Is it any wonder that MMO's, err, I mean this fictional store in question, love this approach?

elvenmad

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Just wait until you see Tempering Alloys and wax in the box loot table and a mysterious reduction in drop rates in game, because it may take some time but this will come, seen this in EVERY game with RNG boxes.

LadyNalcarya

No, don't ever add these into the game.

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danno8 wrote: »

Can you imagine walking into a store wanting to buy that newest graphics card, but the only way to buy it was to purchase a box of random old cards, RAM and cables with a 1% chance that the card you want is thrown in there?

Don't worry though, if you don't get the card you want you can exchange your stuff for some in-store currency and select from the box in the corner over there full of different old garbage that you probably also have no need for or want.

Best part is you can always try again! It's all in the name of fun!

Is it any wonder that MMO's, err, I mean this fictional store in question, love this approach?

Exactly!
This approach is extremely consumer unfriendly. >.<

Rohamad_Ali

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I'm wanting to support you ZOS so bad ...




but no way on this .

Bouldercleave

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Altercator wrote: »

Zeddakis wrote: »

ZOS_PeterT wrote: »

"Although we understand some are upset"

I ran this through my cracker jack decoder ring and here is what came out....We know some of you don't like this, but the people who handle the money here don't care.

I'm sure most of the devs and team don't like this direction as it gives the game they have worked so hard on a negative perception, but the money people who have no worked the long hours or invested their lives in the game don't care what they think either.

It's just bad business.

And this is based on your advanced business degree? I'm sorry but the world that we live in doesn't work the way you people seem to want it to.

In this gaming industry, it is actually GOOD business. They know that this game dies when the next shiny trinket comes down the road (and it WILL come down the road). They need to capitalize on as much revenue as possible as fast as possible.

There is a 20 page list of all the MMOs that have come before, and there is a 20 page list of MMOs that are in the works. They know that you aren't going to be loyal, and this game will eventually fade away like all the others because they ALL do.

Quit being so naive and think that ANY of these gaming companies have your best interests at heart. They are here to take as much of your money as they can, for as long as you will allow it. Just like any other business.

danno8

No, don't ever add these into the game.

elvenmad wrote: »

Just wait until you see Tempering Alloys and wax in the box loot table and a mysterious reduction in drop rates in game, because it may take some time but this will come, seen this in EVERY game with RNG boxes.

Which will go unaddressed or, if addressed, it will be a "bug fix" because the rates were "unintendedly too high".