So there's an addon that allows you to see other player's loot upon drop now...

code65536

altemriel wrote: »

what is the name of this addon pls?

There are several addons that provide this feature:

• As a feature of a bigger addon:
  • LUI Extended
  • Wykkyd Enhanced Chat
  • Wykkyd Loot Manager
  • LootDrop
• As a standalone addon offering only this feature:
  • Loot Log

This list may not be complete; these are just the ones that I know about, and there are probably others that I have not listed.

Edit: If you were referring to the DPS addon, that was Group Damage and it no longer works. However, Combat Metrics will show the total group DPS, but it won't be able to break that total down into individual players.

ESO_Must_Be_F2P

he asking about Group DPS addon

anitajoneb17_ESO

Just remove "other players". Problem(s) solved.

Transairion

So I didn't want to respond to this topic but I have to here because this post is so full of misinformation it's kind of sad.

Some of you are clearly stuck in a bubble obviously. Almost every MMO I have played thus far has had this as a built-in in the game itself. When you group up everything a person in your group is automatically shown. Rift has it, WoW has it, Swtor has it, PWI has it, FW has it (just to name a few).[/b]

Other MMO's you've listed, as far as I know, show all loot because the loot is shared loot: ESO does not have shared loot everyone plays RNG Need/Greed for, loot is all personal and player specific. If you couldn't see that information in say, SWTOR, you wouldn't get see any loot period. If you're grouped in those games you HAVE to roll for it.

And I use one of these Loot addons in this game myself, because it makes my game play a lot easier on me.
Ofc I only group up with the person whom turned me on to this game, so my use of the addon is not a big thing between the 2 of us.
I use it because it is a convenience item for me.
I have bad eye sight. So i use a Minimap addon (which allows me to resize the minimap to where I can see where I am going),and I use a Quest Tracker addon because I can see it better than the built in one.
Both of these are QoL convenience items for me.

Sorry if this is rude, but so what? You just admit that you only ever group up with a single player, who happens to be a personal friend of yours... so seeing their personal loot is important a feature for you to need... why exactly?

No-one's trying to remove Lootdrop or anything, only specific addon feature/s that ONLY shows grouped loot. You're about as a minority as one can get, since you only group with a single player and thus only see a single player's loot at maximum who is already your friend and I assume would actually tell you what they got if it was somehow important.

I play this game with Physical Disabilities. I use my number pad for all my skills and my arrow keys to move with. I don't like that I have to play this way, but its how I have to live. I deal with it.

But asking to have an addon banned/removed just because you don't know how to say No or how to add someone to your Ignore List is Discriminating to people like me who play this game with disabilities and use these addons to help make the game easier to play.

Pity party continues, but please do explain how seeing another player's loot makes your game easier to play. Unless you've grossly misunderstand the topic, your loss of this addon feature would change practically nothing for your own situation as you've explained it: how is seeing the personal loot of the single player you play with somehow of benefit to you?


Meanwhile, most of the people using this addon feature are using it Trials (12 player PvE content) to see what is dropping so that they can try to trade for what they want. Or even to a lesser extent Dungeons (4 player PvE content). And the more people use it, the more misbehaving ones ruin it for the rest.

Just remove "other players". Problem(s) solved.

From the addon? Most addons only DO show personal loot, only a handful have the option other player's loot.

One certain addon does nothing but show other player loot so yes, that addon would cease to exist.

idk

Jeremy wrote: »

deathbyk1te wrote: »

Yeah this addon been's around for awhile. Honestly I've never gotten hounded for items. .

That's irrelevant because the feature that allows players to trade personal loot with other group members is new.

That's why you weren't hounded for items before.

Much was not bound before in trials.

This isn't that big a deal. If your running with guildies, you get a drop you don't need and they can use it why not help them. If you do not want to hell just ignore their request.

Cherryblossom

This screams of;

I play a multi player game, I want this to be solo, don't make me subject to those around me.

I honestly do not understand how this effects someones game.

Transairion

Much was not bound before in trials.

I was under the impression Trials haven't changed much and there's always been "Bound drops" and then a mass of (usually useless) BoE drops.

This isn't that big a deal. If your running with guildies, you get a drop you don't need and they can use it why not help them. If you do not want to hell just ignore their request.

I don't think most of the people who've had problems have been running with guildies. Even if you are, or with PUGs, is there some reason why "LF X pieces" is too hard? It's not impossible and most people I run with do it... this is on PC mind you but it's an MMO, and chat is there for a reason.

All Show Other Player's Loot does is allow you to see things before group members link them, which gives you "an edge". This isn't some gamebreaking QoL feature people can't live without... it's not your loot. You don't need to see something that isn't yours yet, even if you can trade for it now. Whether or not that information is shared should be up to the player who got it.

Transairion

This screams of;

I play a multi player game, I want this to be solo, don't make me subject to those around me.

I honestly do not understand how this effects someones game.

You don't understand how running a Trial/Dungeon and suddenly getting whispers of "Give me that piece!" out of nowhere negatively effects someone's game? At the very least if you got a desirable bound piece before and you didn't share it, you didn't get whispered over it.

ESO_Must_Be_F2P

the OP is back with his ridiculous posts!
let me grab some popcorn

LadyNalcarya

Transairion wrote: »

Transairion wrote: »

Much was not bound before in trials.

I was under the impression Trials haven't changed much and there's always been "Bound drops" and then a mass of (usually useless) BoE drops.

This isn't that big a deal. If your running with guildies, you get a drop you don't need and they can use it why not help them. If you do not want to hell just ignore their request.

I don't think most of the people who've had problems have been running with guildies. Even if you are, or with PUGs, is there some reason why "LF X pieces" is too hard? It's not impossible and most people I run with do it... this is on PC mind you but it's an MMO, and chat is there for a reason.

All Show Other Player's Loot does is allow you to see things before group members link them, which gives you "an edge". This isn't some gamebreaking QoL feature people can't live without... it's not your loot. You don't need to see something that isn't yours yet, even if you can trade for it now. Whether or not that information is shared should be up to the player who got it.

This screams of;

I play a multi player game, I want this to be solo, don't make me subject to those around me.

I honestly do not understand how this effects someones game.

You don't understand how running a Trial/Dungeon and suddenly getting whispers of "Give me that piece!" out of nowhere negatively effects someone's game?

Umm who cares? If its extremely offensive for you, maybe you should just tell everyone beforehand that your loot is your loot and youre not gonna share anything? And more importantly, what if you get random whispers from newbs, like "craft me this" or "are you a vamp? Can you bite me?" It shouldnt be a problem to just say "no" if you dont wanna do something.
Speaking of positive side of those addons...
Yesterday I did a trial with my guild and was asked for an item I havent noticed. It had a good trait, but for me it was absolutely useless so I gave it away. If not for the addon, I wouldve just deconstructed it.
I have a lot of stuff in my inventory so checking everything is pretty annoying and I'm not always paying attention to drops. So for me its a very convenient addon.

Transairion

And more importantly, what if you get random whispers from newbs, like "craft me this" or "are you a vamp? Can you bite me?" It shouldnt be a problem to just say "no" if you dont wanna do something.

Unless I go about shouting in zone chat that I'm a Vampire, or a Master Crafter no, no-one whispers other people "randomly" for that kind of thing. The addon that lets you see other players loot is not random, it literally tells you their loot so you can target whoever got whatever item you wanted and message/whisper them specifically asking for it.

Now if there's an addon that tells me if another player is a Master Crafter or not, that'd be comparable. The amount of addons that provide details on other players specifically is a tiny % of the mass of addons out there.

Yesterday I did a trial with my guild and was asked for an item I havent noticed. It had a good trait, but for me it was absolutely useless so I gave it away. If not for the addon, I wouldve just deconstructed it.
I have a lot of stuff in my inventory so checking everything is pretty annoying and I'm not always paying attention to drops. So for me its a very convenient addon.

Yes yes, it's not a problem in guilds because guilds tend to be civil... what about the rest of us dealing with PUG groups? As already said the quality of player interaction has gone way down since Hist dropped and BoP loot trading became a thing.


Player A's addon shouldn't lead to Player B getting harassed. Seeing other player's loot enables this behavior.

LadyNalcarya

Transairion wrote: »

And more importantly, what if you get random whispers from newbs, like "craft me this" or "are you a vamp? Can you bite me?" It shouldnt be a problem to just say "no" if you dont wanna do something.

Unless I go about shouting in zone chat that I'm a Vampire, or a Master Crafter no, no-one whispers other people "randomly" for that kind of thing. The addon that lets you see other players loot is not random, it literally tells you their loot so you can target whoever got whatever item you wanted and message/whisper them specifically asking for it.

Now if there's an addon that tells me if another player is a Master Crafter or not, that'd be comparable.

Yesterday I did a trial with my guild and was asked for an item I havent noticed. It had a good trait, but for me it was absolutely useless so I gave it away. If not for the addon, I wouldve just deconstructed it.
I have a lot of stuff in my inventory so checking everything is pretty annoying and I'm not always paying attention to drops. So for me its a very convenient addon.

Yes yes, it's not a problem in guilds because guilds tend to be civil... what about the rest of us dealing with PUG groups? As already said the quality of player interaction has gone way down since Hist dropped and BoP loot trading became a thing.

Actually people do whisper randomly.
Im getting random "what style is it? Craft it for meee!" and "bite me!" as well as occasional "carry me through vMoL, I want that skin" all the time. But seriously, I couldnt care less.
Imo, caring about what a random stranger might say is extremely insecure. I mean, no one can harm you in game, and theres a blacklist feature, and of course, no one can take your items from you. And if you have serious issues with that (Im not even sarcastic right now, it does sound like an issue), it might be better to play with trusted friends. Because being bashed for dps/heals/tanking/your role/your race/many other things in pugs is more likely than getting a maniacal stalker because of some lucky item drop. There's like a 0,5% chance to get those BiS items to begin with (no one wants Vicious pieces with non-divine trait even from free even in pugs, I tell ya), then there's a very low chance to meet a person who would potentially go nuts because you got it, then theres a chance if they are actually running this addon, then there's a chance if they actually need this item... Expecting it to happen often is either very insecure, or outright paranoid.

idk

Transairion wrote: »

Much was not bound before in trials.

I was under the impression Trials haven't changed much and there's always been "Bound drops" and then a mass of (usually useless) BoE drops.

And your impression condone be further from reality in the game.

Warlock rings sold for 100k+ on NA server even when we were v14 and the rings were v12. They have always been BoE. They were the more sought after set but Slks of the sun and some others would sell for a bit.

I'll put it this way, I don't take you seriously. Either your merely getting a laugh out of this thread or you are a selfish introvert that should stick with single player games.

But hey, your comments are humorous in the extreme they go trying to justify such a weak and make claim.

Transairion

Imo, caring about what a random stranger might say is extremely insecure. I mean, no one can harm you in game, and theres a blacklist feature, and of course, no one can take your items from you. And if you have serious issues with that (Im not even sarcastic right now, it does sound like an issue), it might be better to play with trusted friends. Because being bashed for dps/heals/tanking/your role/your race/many other things in pugs is more likely than getting a maniacal stalker because of some lucky item drop. There's like a 0,5% chance to get those BiS items to begin with (no one wants Vicious pieces with non-divine trait even from free even in pugs, I tell ya), then there's a very low chance to meet a person who would potentially go nuts because you got it, then theres a chance if they are actually running this addon, then there's a chance if they actually need this item... Expecting it to happen often is either very insecure, or outright paranoid

Patronizing people gets your nowhere.

I've gone from getting 0 whispers during Trials to 7+ instances in the week that Hist dropped of people wanting/demanding certain drops: this isn't an isolated incident either as other people have said the same. That's a big jump from not even knowing about it's existence to getting bombarded with tells while grouped.

Make of that what you will, but I think it's pretty rubbish there was a big outcry about "Group Damage" addon letting people screen DPS numbers and that got removed, but seeing other people's loot as soon as it drops is somehow okay. Neither at all a requirement for your gameplay, and to be honest someone else's loot doesn't affect you to begin with.

Why defend something that encourages anti-social behavior?

anitajoneb17_ESO

Transairion wrote: »

Just remove "other players". Problem(s) solved.

From the addon? Most addons only DO show personal loot, only a handful have the option other player's loot.
One certain addon does nothing but show other player loot so yes, that addon would cease to exist.

No. I meant "remove "other players" from the game".
That was just sarcasm. I wonder why people play MMOs (there are excellent single player or coop games out there), if they always expect the worst of any kind of interaction in game.

cjthibs

@Transairion ...are you one of those people who thinks someone saying 'Hello' to you at the office is sexual harassment?

luen79rwb17_ESO

I have mixed feelings about this addon. I find it odd when some people chat about my drops even before I open my inventory and check the traits I got.

Some people also mentioned feeling kind of forced to trade extra gear (usually sent o alts) in raid setups.

Individual loot is probably the main reason I love ESO above the rest of the MMOs. But this addon + tradeable loot makes it slightly less individual. Not too much though depends on the people you're grouped.

Transairion

And your impression condone be further from reality in the game.

Warlock rings sold for 100k+ on NA server even when we were v14 and the rings were v12. They have always been BoE. They were the more sought after set but Slks of the sun and some others would sell for a bit.

And when we were VR16? You're talking a very, very long time ago and AA/He-Ra had been giving out CP120 locked gear for a long long time. If Warlock is as I recall, the Lich set has been seen as superior for a long time because it wasn't CP120 locked and only recently is Warlock superior again because it's CP160 and far easier to get (I don't know if Lich comes in jewelry).

I'll put it this way, I don't take you seriously. Either your merely getting a laugh out of this thread or you are a selfish introvert that should stick with single player games.

But hey, your comments are humorous in the extreme they go trying to justify such a weak and make claim.

I'm sorry if people harassing me over loot I haven't even checked yet somehow offends you, oh mighty one. If people want to be social and ask things, they're free to do so... but not via information I haven't shared with them yet. Or even gotten the chance to do so.

Every topic I see you reply to you antagonize people though, you should find something more constructive to do with that free time.

That was just sarcasm. I wonder why people play MMOs (there are excellent single player or coop games out there), if they always expect the worst of any kind of interaction in game.

This is based on actual gameplay experience with people pestering me for drops before I've even viewed what trait they've come in yet. If that hasn't happened to you, then good for you.

LadyNalcarya

Transairion wrote: »

Imo, caring about what a random stranger might say is extremely insecure. I mean, no one can harm you in game, and theres a blacklist feature, and of course, no one can take your items from you. And if you have serious issues with that (Im not even sarcastic right now, it does sound like an issue), it might be better to play with trusted friends. Because being bashed for dps/heals/tanking/your role/your race/many other things in pugs is more likely than getting a maniacal stalker because of some lucky item drop. There's like a 0,5% chance to get those BiS items to begin with (no one wants Vicious pieces with non-divine trait even from free even in pugs, I tell ya), then there's a very low chance to meet a person who would potentially go nuts because you got it, then theres a chance if they are actually running this addon, then there's a chance if they actually need this item... Expecting it to happen often is either very insecure, or outright paranoid

Patronizing people gets your nowhere.

I've gone from getting 0 whispers during Trials to 7+ instances in the week that Hist dropped of people wanting/demanding certain drops: this isn't an isolated incident either as other people have said the same. That's a big jump from not even knowing about it's existence to getting bombarded with tells while grouped.

Make of that what you will, but I think it's pretty rubbish there was a big outcry about "Group Damage" addon letting people screen DPS numbers and that got removed, but seeing other people's loot as soon as it drops is somehow okay. Neither at all a requirement for your gameplay, and to be honest someone else's loot doesn't affect you to begin with.

Why defend something that encourages anti-social behavior?

Always expecting the wost and assuming that all people are evil *** that will kill your family for loot is quite anti-social I must say.
Youre getting whispers simply because trading feature was added just recently.
And speaking of rude people, what prevents them from bullying without that addon? You didnt post your loot and didnt offer it, then its enough for this kind of people youre describing. They would assume youve gotten all the best drops and hiding them.
Please give me an answer to one very simple question: why cant you just tell your trial group that youre not sharing anything, even prosperous ice staff of alcosh?

idk

People. Please let this thread did. Can you not see what OP is doing. Let the thread fall away into oblivion.

LadyNalcarya

Oh and another simple question: why are you afraid of saying "no" if you dont wanna do something?

LadyNalcarya

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

People. Please let this thread did. Can you not see what OP is doing. Let the thread fall away into oblivion.

Tsss, Im curious

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Transairion wrote: »

This screams of;

I play a multi player game, I want this to be solo, don't make me subject to those around me.

I honestly do not understand how this effects someones game.

You don't understand how running a Trial/Dungeon and suddenly getting whispers of "Give me that piece!" out of nowhere negatively effects someone's game? At the very least if you got a desirable bound piece before and you didn't share it, you didn't get whispered over it.

This makes me giggle. Someone whispered me, and now my game is worse!

idk

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

People. Please let this thread did. Can you not see what OP is doing. Let the thread fall away into oblivion.

Tsss, Im curious

curious about what, being made a pasty?

anitajoneb17_ESO

Transairion wrote: »

Make of that what you will, but I think it's pretty rubbish there was a big outcry about "Group Damage" addon letting people screen DPS numbers and that got removed, but seeing other people's loot as soon as it drops is somehow okay. Neither at all a requirement for your gameplay, and to be honest someone else's loot doesn't affect you to begin with.

It has absolutely nothing to do with GroupDamage. No group is going to judge and discriminate or even kick you over your loot.

Transairion

@Transairion ...are you one of those people who thinks someone saying 'Hello' to you at the office is sexual harassment?

Funny, but no.

More like someone walks up and offers to buy that nice pair of pants I've got hidden in my house and no-one's ever seen, and I've never told anyone about. You know, the suddenly omnipotent buyer.

Nothing wrong with people asking to buy stuff, but they're doing it before I've even offered to sell it. Or seen what it is properly.

People. Please let this thread did. Can you not see what OP is doing. Let the thread fall away into oblivion

Given you've got nothing constructive to add other than "you're wrong!", if you're trying to kill the topic why do you keep replying constantly?

Oh and another simple question: why are you afraid of saying "no" if you dont wanna do something?

I do. But it's really inconvenient to be harassed because someone else is using an addon and wants something I've got. Name me an addon that negatively effects other players, because I can't find any that weren't already stamped out by ZOS for exactly that reason.

Always expecting the wost and assuming that all people are evil *** that will kill your family for loot is quite anti-social I must say.
Youre getting whispers simply because trading feature was added just recently.
And speaking of rude people, what prevents them from bullying without that addon? You didnt post your loot and didnt offer it, then its enough for this kind of people youre describing. They would assume youve gotten all the best drops and hiding them.
Please give me an answer to one very simple question: why cant you just tell your trial group that youre not sharing anything, even prosperous ice staff of alcosh?

I have never in the history of any game I've ever played heard of someone being rude because "they didn't tell me what loot they got so they must be hiding something".

I'm not anti-social, I'm not going to call out I won't trade any loot because I will do that just... but I shouldn't be getting whispers the second the loot drops either, because 90%+ of players can't see that loot to begin with. Only the addon holders can do so.

LadyNalcarya

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

People. Please let this thread did. Can you not see what OP is doing. Let the thread fall away into oblivion.

Tsss, Im curious

curious about what, being made a pasty?

Why so serious?
If there are any new assumptions of course.
There were assumptions about alts and guildies bullying someone cause of loot. I wonder if it gets even better, idk whats next?

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Transairion wrote: »

People. Please let this thread did. Can you not see what OP is doing. Let the thread fall away into oblivion

Given you've got nothing constructive to add other than "you're wrong!", if you're trying to kill the topic why do you keep replying constantly?

oh no! People are being harassed on the forums. Better remove the forums.

It is odd, you seem to have no problem telling people off on the forum. Saying no in the game shouldnt be that hard.

LadyNalcarya

Transairion wrote: »

getting whispers of "Give me that piece!"

Transairion wrote: »

to be harassed

Well this is really offensive to actual victims of harassment.
Im not even joking.

ESO_Must_Be_F2P

author is so damb or what
add a poll to topic and you will see how many people will be against your pathetic point of view!