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Templars are not scaling correctly on console

  • DuckNoodles
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    Any new information on this issue??

    This really needs to be fixed asap!
  • Cinbri
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    Sorry but templar issues require to waste 1 year on its fixes.
  • sluice
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    templesus wrote: »
    Hello? @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @wrobel can one of you PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THESE ISSUES? Our class is COMPLETELY broken and you have yet to acknowledge it after COUNTLESS TESTS. OVERLOAD GOT FIXED A DAY LATER, AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PLAYER BASE PLEASE

    I agree that it's not cool to not hear anything from ZOS at this point...
    But calling our class COMPLETELY broken because of one skill. Lolz.

    I'm not struggling at all in PVP with this current issue.
    (Just have to respect CP. I run with 95 points in Elemental Damage.)
    PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
    I strictly play on Daggerfall Covenant for when it comes to PvP
    Daggerfall Covenant
    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

    Ebonheart Pact
    Can't-Heal-Stupid - Argonian Templar (0..50)

    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #TRAITCHANGE
    (vMA) drop table and probability
  • xerasia
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    sluice wrote: »
    templesus wrote: »
    Hello? @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @wrobel can one of you PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THESE ISSUES? Our class is COMPLETELY broken and you have yet to acknowledge it after COUNTLESS TESTS. OVERLOAD GOT FIXED A DAY LATER, AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PLAYER BASE PLEASE

    I agree that it's not cool to not hear anything from ZOS at this point...
    But calling our class COMPLETELY broken because of one skill. Lolz.

    I'm not struggling at all in PVP with this current issue.
    (Just have to respect CP. I run with 95 points in Elemental Damage.)

    Agreeing that my magicka templar is not completely useless in PvP right now, but I'm definitely down to using only 2 damage skills heavily and regularly instead of my regular 4-skill combo/rotation. Posting in the hopes to keep this up at the top for some sort of feedback.
    Xerasia - Bosmer Magicka Templar | NA EP
    Galasha - Orc Stamina Dragonknight | NA EP
    Haileigha - Altmer Magicka Sorcerer | NA EP
    Zaxaria - lvl 21 Argonian I don't even know what to do with this one Nightblade | NA EP
  • jediprime74
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    Another day...
    Guildmaster of Fool's Errand, PvX/social, beginner to endgame Guild.

    Guildmaster of Fools for the Pact an Ebonheart Pact PvP Guild.

  • SublimeSparo
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    PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
    vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
    4th Console vMOL clear,
    vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic

    My Tribe
    EU
    High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
    Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
    Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
    Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
    Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
    Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
    Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
    Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
    Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
    Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
    Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
    Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank

    NA
    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
    Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
    Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
    Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
    You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
    Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
    Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
    Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
    Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
    Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank
  • templesus
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    Love seeing my 1k burning light procs zos
  • willymchilybily
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    I would love an update on ZOS's investigation into this. My MagTemplar just isn't doing the damage that he should be since this isn't giving the needed bonuses from Thaumaturge.

    We are currently looking into this based on the details provided in this thread yesterday.

    It has been one week, with no feed back. perhaps @ZOS_CaseyCoffman you might be able to see it in your heart to give some feed back. as this topic is the same (or so i believe) as the one you are already looking into and commented on)
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/272391/zos-consoles-have-the-wrong-pts-build/p2

    if nothing else on page 2 this topic has some related and clear video examples
    I have video proof:-
    http://youtu.be/hyZoAF7RRR0
    Edited by willymchilybily on June 23, 2016 11:44AM
    PSN - WarpPigeon - Guild: TheSyndicate - EU, Ebonheart Pact
    Dragon Knight [Magicka] - 720 - Stormproof
    Night Blade [Magicka] - 720 - Stormproof
    Sorcerer [Magicka] - 720 - Flawless Conqueror
    Templar [Magicka] - 720 - Stormproof
    Dragon Knight [Stamina] - 720 - Stormproof
    Night Blade [Stamina] - 720 - Stormproof
    Sorcerer [Stamina] - 720
  • JAMESLJNR
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @Wrobel You guys really are the worst devs I've ever come across in regards to replying and interacting with the community, IT'S BEEN A WEEK AND NO WORD? Absolute shambles, I'm cancelling my ESO plus and never buying any crowns ever again unless this is fixed soon, no way to treat your fee paying customers. IT'S AN ENTIRE CLASS THAT IS AFFECTED. Get it sorted you bunch of incompetent apes.
    Edited by JAMESLJNR on June 23, 2016 1:11PM
  • Dr.NRG
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    Hey ZOS,

    If fixing thaumaturge is an issue for whatever reason, why don't you just buff all the affected templar skills by roughly 18% for now? This should be an easy fix that takes care of the issue untill ya'll figure out what is causing the issue. Currently, playing a templar can still be fun at times but it becomes way to often a real pain because one mistake or especilly lag will get you nowadays killed way to fast as we have to build unbalanced builds in order to get the damage needed.
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  • Neoauspex
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom why was there no patch for consoles this week? Doesn't PTS and PC/MAC get updated every week?

    I keep clicking on the maintenance announcement/patch notes threads all googly eyed...
  • Dr.NRG
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    Neoauspex wrote: »
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom why was there no patch for consoles this week? Doesn't PTS and PC/MAC get updated every week?

    I keep clicking on the maintenance announcement/patch notes threads all googly eyed...


    Yes! Same here! please do something! This is an serious topic! Some of us still believe in you ZOS please dont lose us too, we are not asking for much but a simple fix that should not be hard to implement.You fixed it right away on PC so why let us wait so long and make us feel frustrated? C'mon guys:(
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  • templesus
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    I've officially lost all faith in the Devs of this game, I'm canceling my ESO plus and I'm advising my 500 man guild to as well And tell them to spread the word. This is ridiculous, a week later and no response they won't even acknowledge us. I am going to take the further step and go to there superiors and show them how terrible of a job they are doing.
  • Sargentwilko51
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    We have been waiting, somewhat patiently, for over a week for an official response on this issue. As you can see in the comments, this like so many other issues, is starting to fester and turn to the dark side.

    PLEASE, all we ask for is an update. We know it is broken, you know it is broken. Please just acknowledge us on this thread and confirm/disprove what we have reported.
  • Neoauspex
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    templesus wrote: »
    I've officially lost all faith in the Devs of this game, I'm canceling my ESO plus and I'm advising my 500 man guild to as well And tell them to spread the word. This is ridiculous, a week later and no response they won't even acknowledge us. I am going to take the further step and go to there superiors and show them how terrible of a job they are doing.

    I still have faith in the dev's product but their communication, which they claimed recently they wanted to improve, is shaky at best.

    I can understand if getting changes to console has more hurdles and takes more time than PC, that is reasonable. But @ZOS_JessicaFolsom it'd be great if sometime within a week or two of "we are looking into this" we could get a "we will be addressing this in a future patch" or even a hesitant "we admit there is a problem".

    Edit: @ZOS_JessicaFolsom mentioned on ESO Live that they are trying to fix the console problems. They will hotfix anything they can, any incremental patches will be at least 2 weeks.
    Edited by Neoauspex on June 24, 2016 9:13PM
  • Justice31st
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    It is astonishing that ZOS does not care about consoles customer base!
    "The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."
  • SublimeSparo
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    I'm guessing they've all gone on holiday with the extra income from crafting bag subs. No fixes/communication till they're back from monte carlo
    Edited by SublimeSparo on June 27, 2016 5:32AM
    PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
    vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
    4th Console vMOL clear,
    vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic

    My Tribe
    EU
    High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
    Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
    Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
    Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
    Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
    Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
    Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
    Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
    Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
    Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
    Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
    Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank

    NA
    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
    Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
    Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
    Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
    You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
    Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
    Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
    Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
    Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
    Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank
  • SublimeSparo
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    This is not a bump.
    PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
    vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
    4th Console vMOL clear,
    vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic

    My Tribe
    EU
    High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
    Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
    Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
    Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
    Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
    Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
    Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
    Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
    Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
    Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
    Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
    Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank

    NA
    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
    Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
    Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
    Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
    You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
    Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
    Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
    Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
    Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
    Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank
  • sluice
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    This is a bump.
    PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
    I strictly play on Daggerfall Covenant for when it comes to PvP
    Daggerfall Covenant
    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

    Ebonheart Pact
    Can't-Heal-Stupid - Argonian Templar (0..50)

    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #TRAITCHANGE
    (vMA) drop table and probability
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    This is not a bump.
    sluice wrote: »
    This is a bump.

    Im so confused!
  • SublimeSparo
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    Bumping is prohibited on these forums, 'not bumping' however, is not. ;)
    PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
    vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
    4th Console vMOL clear,
    vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic

    My Tribe
    EU
    High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
    Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
    Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
    Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
    Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
    Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
    Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
    Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
    Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
    Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
    Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
    Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank

    NA
    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
    Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
    Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
    Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
    You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
    Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
    Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
    Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
    Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
    Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank
  • sluice
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    To bump or not to bump, that is the question!
    PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
    I strictly play on Daggerfall Covenant for when it comes to PvP
    Daggerfall Covenant
    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

    Ebonheart Pact
    Can't-Heal-Stupid - Argonian Templar (0..50)

    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #TRAITCHANGE
    (vMA) drop table and probability
  • JAMESLJNR
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    Update comes on console and what a surprise, STILL no fix. ZOS you are an embarrassment.
  • sluice
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    JAMESLJNR wrote: »
    Update comes on console and what a surprise, STILL no fix. ZOS you are an embarrassment.

    REALLY!?
    PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
    I strictly play on Daggerfall Covenant for when it comes to PvP
    Daggerfall Covenant
    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

    Ebonheart Pact
    Can't-Heal-Stupid - Argonian Templar (0..50)

    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #TRAITCHANGE
    (vMA) drop table and probability
  • jediprime74
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    Any word yet? Any sort of official confirmation this has been replicated and is being fixed?

    I spent a long day at work, had heard it was still broken so thought I would log in and re-test.

    Yes. It's still broken.

    And we still have no word from ZOS that we should expect a fix, or when we should expect a fix...or if it has even been recognized as a problem.

    Please Zenimax, throw us a bone! Not asking for much here, just let us know if a) it's not a problem, there's just some UI error with the damage text, b) it's a problem and you're working on it, c) you don't know because you can't replicate it on your end...

    If it's the latter, I will give you permission to use my account for testing...
    Guildmaster of Fool's Errand, PvX/social, beginner to endgame Guild.

    Guildmaster of Fools for the Pact an Ebonheart Pact PvP Guild.

  • Justice31st
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    Any word yet? Any sort of official confirmation this has been replicated and is being fixed?

    I spent a long day at work, had heard it was still broken so thought I would log in and re-test.

    Yes. It's still broken.

    And we still have no word from ZOS that we should expect a fix, or when we should expect a fix...or if it has even been recognized as a problem.

    Please Zenimax, throw us a bone! Not asking for much here, just let us know if a) it's not a problem, there's just some UI error with the damage text, b) it's a problem and you're working on it, c) you don't know because you can't replicate it on your end...

    If it's the latter, I will give you permission to use my account for testing...

    I feel like all the Nerf Templar threads has made ZOS not care about fixing Templars.
    "The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."
  • JayhawK
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    ridiculous
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Have you all thought that maybe it is working as intended due to how the tool tips read and perhaps that the change discussed on PC PTS was done as an exception only.

    Meaning that it's possible that a future PC change will align consoles and PC (if it's really not working and not a UI error)
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • Justice31st
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    Have you all thought that maybe it is working as intended due to how the tool tips read and perhaps that the change discussed on PC PTS was done as an exception only.

    Meaning that it's possible that a future PC change will align consoles and PC (if it's really not working and not a UI error)

    Except it is already working on the PC live version, but not on consoles. And @Wrobel already stated that puncturing sweeps goes off both elemental expert and thaumaturge, unless you are calling him a liar.
    "The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."
  • SublimeSparo
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    PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
    vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
    4th Console vMOL clear,
    vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic

    My Tribe
    EU
    High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
    Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
    Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
    Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
    Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
    Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
    Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
    Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
    Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
    Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
    Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
    Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank

    NA
    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
    Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
    Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
    Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
    You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
    Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
    Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
    Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
    Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
    Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank
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