Azura's Star NA PC Thread

Heike

NBrookus wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Was there an AD guild from Haderus? I didn't really see any unfamiliar yellows at brk.

I'm not sure which guild, but I saw a lot of familar yellow Haderus names.

There are 4 people who left Had last month, that run in Queen's Eyes in AZ now. The others are former DC. Might be why you recognize them.

yodased

Minalan wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Was there an AD guild from Haderus? I didn't really see any unfamiliar yellows at brk.

I'm not sure which guild, but I saw a lot of familar yellow Haderus names.

They got tired of being spanked by @FENGRUSH, so they go to Azuras. Maybe we should summon him to this campaign, there is no escaping his wrath.

He came for 20 minutes and left

Caza99

bitaken wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Well at least today's map was better than the EP zerg fest yesterday. Oh o2 DC too

bitaken wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Epic fun. I'm starting to remember why I found PvP fun in the first place after being totally burnt out on Haderus. I wouldn't even have tried it without this thread, @bitaken , so thanks!

Yup, this is the reason we went to EP. We fell in love with non CP - but with us and a few others on blue - the map was either ALL blue or ALL yellow - the three way action enabled with us an another guild on EP just makes it so much fun. I'm fairly certain with all the keeps named after me that I am viewed somewhat poorly, but this kind of PvP is what makes the game fun for EHJ and just about anyone who plays the game for the actual PvP.

Really was a fun night. I had to be out for some Real life commitments from 5-7 last night and when I got back half the map was lit - but it was grand working with the EP that were online to recapture the ring. Then of course with DC on one side and AD on the other it all boiled down to BRK and that's what makes the whole darn thing worth it. AD on mine side - DC on LM/Farm side - the fights between them - us - and back and forth closing walls / doors and all the chaos that ensues.

I think perhaps the reason you are seen "somewhat poorly" is that you are always seen in the middle of an EP zerg running over a greatly outnumbered group of AD and DC.
Perfect example is yesterday when EP owned all keeps except the 2 DC/AD home keeps. 3 DC, myself included, took glade mine. 3 EP came to investigate and died, must've called out in zone because about 2 minutes later 6000 EP showed up with an emperor Bitaken leading them. And to make things worse, one of you actually sieged us lol. Don't give me this "Oh EHJ never runs more than x number of people". Idc if you only have 7 of the 6000 EP in your group, the fact is you're zerging. All this "competitive PvP" you keep talking about is bs. How is running over 2 DC with your potato zerg competitive? How is PvDoor competitive? When you were blue on AZ, blue owned the map. Now you are red an 90% of the time, red owns the map. See a connection?

Oh yes, I see a connection. When a competitive group of solid players comes to a map and helps the pugs - the pugs follow. People who generally do not belong to solid PvP guilds that work together well want someone to follow. This is ALWAYS going to be the case.

Are we zerging?

http://plays.tv/video/577f25c299e3c74d8a/another-eso-push-from-ehj-ad-never-get-off-sieges-so-its-easy-kill-them-

http://plays.tv/video/577f23ada43ebf1307/sweet-recipe-how-make-banana-cake-in-one-minute-first-mash-50-bananas-eso-ehj

Are there pugs and other good players around us? Sure there are.

Are they enjoying the game? You bet. I can't tell you how many EP have thanked us for coming over and making EP competitive. The map was blue, but it was ALL yellow when we arrived. We would capture bleakers - 40 AD would show - we would make AP but lose the fight. Then FWF would show up and we would back cap AD - they would all come to us - and FWF would take the in line keeps. Eventually it goes blue - and then the masses of people show up. This thread caused people from other servers to check out Non CP and they also found that it was fun. How is there anything wrong with that?

You can call me what you want - but last night at Sej I saw 40+ AD lead by one of the better AD guilds from Had - and I did not complain - I was psyched we got some competition. When Khole showed up at BRK I was not whining about it - I told our group that it was time to step up the game and be tighter - burst harder - and be aware of Khole tactics that we know about. Were we perfect? Hell no!! But, we had fun and were very appreciative of the competitive guilds that showed up to fight us.

Lastly, Braidas and his crew would flip the map at 6 AM EST. He would hang around all day - holding Arrius, Fare - even the AD gate keeps - and I saw no DC complaining about his PvDooring the map at an early hour to get emp - I saw no DC complaining about him jumping into level 0 freshly captured keeps and abusing malubeth and potentially other things I won't mention here. The pugs from DC defended Arrius, Defended Fare - and some of the better players did as well. How is it on the other end of that pointy stick then?

Notice we do not *** all the scrolls nor defend the gate keeps.

You noted you are viewed somewhat poorly, well I explained why.
The PUGs follow, I get it. But you come on the forums all the time, boasting about the fact that you never run groups larger than x. So when people see Bitaken Unjust emperor inside a zerg of EP streaking through everyone, it's gonna change their views on you. And those players are not just AD/DC, other EP have grown to dislike you. And it's not just because you zerg, lots of people do. It's because you come on here and say you never zerg and that you are on AZ to try and create a competitive campaign when all you're really doing half the time is killing the competition. You didn't make EP competitive. You just come on, take the whole map then run over anything that moves. Sure it seems like competition from your end, but did you feel it was competitive when Braidas and Co. took the map and held Arrius?
Oh I complained about Braidas. But apart from jumping into keeps, you guys do the exact same thing. Oh Braidas and Co. PvDooring emp? I can't remember the number of times when I was on EP that you would say in zone the you got in there real early to take back the map. You even wanted us to thank you for it a few times xD. Braidas holding Arrius and Fare? Refer to my previous post. You tried to defend this by saying PUGs follow. It was always the same group of 2-6 DC at glade yet you felt the need to come with your heavily coordinated group to assist in wiping an already heavily outnumbered group of DC. Don't get me started on the EP trash talk whispers we got >.<
Realistically we're all as bad as each other when it comes to zerging and such, whether we like it or not. The difference is tho, you come on here and try to claim otherwise. I don't think you're as bad for the campaign as some believe. But players will always look for a recognizable name amongst a zerg to put the blame on. For a while there that name was Rylana's. Unfortunately now it's Bitaken Unjust.

Chuga_Rei

Funny watching AD gap close into arrius to get the scroll. I wonder if that player was reported?

though if they play is anything like what we face I dont blame him. 5 of us siege a AD keep and a full raid just waits inside and counter sieges. its pretty lulzy.

KenaPKK

Minalan wrote: »

^^^ Did you catch the four page crying thread about DC Braidas hopping into keeps?

After AD's emperor did the same thing the day before?

KenaPKK wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I use to exclusively play in Azura's when it first came out for a few months. I ended up getting convinced to play in the cp campaigns, but went back to Azura's last night because I wanted to. A half hour later I was wishing I never left. Azura's is so much fun. I am ep as well and managed to have a good time even though we didn't own a single keep until some other EP started to take back a couple of them.

One of the problems I noticed with this campaign is that there seems to be a very large skill gap between the players here. It's great that this campaign is a good place for new players, but I am seeing players anywhere from cp rank 10 and ava rank 40. There was this really tanky trollplar dc that could stay alive with 10 ep on him. He couldn't really kill anybody of course, but there was an ep in zone saying the guy was cheating because he could tank so many people at the same time. These newer players haven't learned about some of the different builds and mechanics in the game yet and because of that they think players like this trollplar are cheating.

Also Azura's AD is full of cat and elf snipers.

You're making me miss Azura's. Our group dethroned the AD emp there a couple days after the Thieves Guild patch, making way for DC, but we haven't been back in an organized manner since we left and Bitaken's group moved in. I was there last week and had fun with Arya and a few others.

How is the Imperial City action in Azura's?

Join us! The AD horde is real and full of sweet juicy AP.

If you know how to stay out of a red siege engine circle, that makes you an 'elite PVPer' here.

What's a siege? :^)

KenaPKK

Wait, did EHJ roll EP on Azura's? Is there room for another DC group to relocate to Azura's without imbalancing the campaign?

Caza99

KenaPKK wrote: »

Wait, did EHJ roll EP on Azura's? Is there room for another DC group to relocate to Azura's without imbalancing the campaign?

Yes moar DC to fight the EP potato zerg

Chuga_Rei

one coordinated DC guild would be great imo.

Draxys

Hopped into AZ last night with mojar and a few others. Playing without CP for the first time took some getting used to, but once I actually gear for it, should be good fun.

Chuga_Rei

Draxys wrote: »

Hopped into AZ last night with mojar and a few others. Playing without CP for the first time took some getting used to, but once I actually gear for it, should be good fun.

was good seeing your group out there. nice fighting a group of well organized skilled AD

Chuga_Rei

The queens door and the 4 am pvdoor squad are on

"but but but there are defenders!"

ya. 5-6 to your raid+ lol

Zuvanov

bitaken wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Well at least today's map was better than the EP zerg fest yesterday. Oh o2 DC too

bitaken wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Epic fun. I'm starting to remember why I found PvP fun in the first place after being totally burnt out on Haderus. I wouldn't even have tried it without this thread, @bitaken , so thanks!

Yup, this is the reason we went to EP. We fell in love with non CP - but with us and a few others on blue - the map was either ALL blue or ALL yellow - the three way action enabled with us an another guild on EP just makes it so much fun. I'm fairly certain with all the keeps named after me that I am viewed somewhat poorly, but this kind of PvP is what makes the game fun for EHJ and just about anyone who plays the game for the actual PvP.

Really was a fun night. I had to be out for some Real life commitments from 5-7 last night and when I got back half the map was lit - but it was grand working with the EP that were online to recapture the ring. Then of course with DC on one side and AD on the other it all boiled down to BRK and that's what makes the whole darn thing worth it. AD on mine side - DC on LM/Farm side - the fights between them - us - and back and forth closing walls / doors and all the chaos that ensues.

I think perhaps the reason you are seen "somewhat poorly" is that you are always seen in the middle of an EP zerg running over a greatly outnumbered group of AD and DC.
Perfect example is yesterday when EP owned all keeps except the 2 DC/AD home keeps. 3 DC, myself included, took glade mine. 3 EP came to investigate and died, must've called out in zone because about 2 minutes later 6000 EP showed up with an emperor Bitaken leading them. And to make things worse, one of you actually sieged us lol. Don't give me this "Oh EHJ never runs more than x number of people". Idc if you only have 7 of the 6000 EP in your group, the fact is you're zerging. All this "competitive PvP" you keep talking about is bs. How is running over 2 DC with your potato zerg competitive? How is PvDoor competitive? When you were blue on AZ, blue owned the map. Now you are red an 90% of the time, red owns the map. See a connection?

Oh yes, I see a connection. When a competitive group of solid players comes to a map and helps the pugs - the pugs follow. People who generally do not belong to solid PvP guilds that work together well want someone to follow. This is ALWAYS going to be the case.

Are we zerging?

http://plays.tv/video/577f25c299e3c74d8a/another-eso-push-from-ehj-ad-never-get-off-sieges-so-its-easy-kill-them-

http://plays.tv/video/577f23ada43ebf1307/sweet-recipe-how-make-banana-cake-in-one-minute-first-mash-50-bananas-eso-ehj

Are there pugs and other good players around us? Sure there are.

Are they enjoying the game? You bet. I can't tell you how many EP have thanked us for coming over and making EP competitive. The map was blue, but it was ALL yellow when we arrived. We would capture bleakers - 40 AD would show - we would make AP but lose the fight. Then FWF would show up and we would back cap AD - they would all come to us - and FWF would take the in line keeps. Eventually it goes blue - and then the masses of people show up. This thread caused people from other servers to check out Non CP and they also found that it was fun. How is there anything wrong with that?

You can call me what you want - but last night at Sej I saw 40+ AD lead by one of the better AD guilds from Had - and I did not complain - I was psyched we got some competition. When Khole showed up at BRK I was not whining about it - I told our group that it was time to step up the game and be tighter - burst harder - and be aware of Khole tactics that we know about. Were we perfect? Hell no!! But, we had fun and were very appreciative of the competitive guilds that showed up to fight us.

Lastly, Braidas and his crew would flip the map at 6 AM EST. He would hang around all day - holding Arrius, Fare - even the AD gate keeps - and I saw no DC complaining about his PvDooring the map at an early hour to get emp - I saw no DC complaining about him jumping into level 0 freshly captured keeps and abusing malubeth and potentially other things I won't mention here. The pugs from DC defended Arrius, Defended Fare - and some of the better players did as well. How is it on the other end of that pointy stick then?

Notice we do not *** all the scrolls nor defend the gate keeps.

we aren't k-hole, and we have absolutely 0 tactics

bitaken

Caza99 wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Wait, did EHJ roll EP on Azura's? Is there room for another DC group to relocate to Azura's without imbalancing the campaign?

Yes moar DC to fight the EP potato zerg

More than a little funny. Last night there were 40+ DC attacking chalman at 2:00 AM EST. That's ok though.

KenaPKK wrote: »

Wait, did EHJ roll EP on Azura's? Is there room for another DC group to relocate to Azura's without imbalancing the campaign?

Yup - EP was a non factor - maybe 2-7 of them on at any given time. Now, we have a 2-3 bar pop nightly. Guilty as charged - sorry people run to flamed keeps and defend and enjoy playing in the campaign because we are here helping daily.

Caza99 wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Well at least today's map was better than the EP zerg fest yesterday. Oh o2 DC too

bitaken wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Epic fun. I'm starting to remember why I found PvP fun in the first place after being totally burnt out on Haderus. I wouldn't even have tried it without this thread, @bitaken , so thanks!

Yup, this is the reason we went to EP. We fell in love with non CP - but with us and a few others on blue - the map was either ALL blue or ALL yellow - the three way action enabled with us an another guild on EP just makes it so much fun. I'm fairly certain with all the keeps named after me that I am viewed somewhat poorly, but this kind of PvP is what makes the game fun for EHJ and just about anyone who plays the game for the actual PvP.

Really was a fun night. I had to be out for some Real life commitments from 5-7 last night and when I got back half the map was lit - but it was grand working with the EP that were online to recapture the ring. Then of course with DC on one side and AD on the other it all boiled down to BRK and that's what makes the whole darn thing worth it. AD on mine side - DC on LM/Farm side - the fights between them - us - and back and forth closing walls / doors and all the chaos that ensues.

I think perhaps the reason you are seen "somewhat poorly" is that you are always seen in the middle of an EP zerg running over a greatly outnumbered group of AD and DC.
Perfect example is yesterday when EP owned all keeps except the 2 DC/AD home keeps. 3 DC, myself included, took glade mine. 3 EP came to investigate and died, must've called out in zone because about 2 minutes later 6000 EP showed up with an emperor Bitaken leading them. And to make things worse, one of you actually sieged us lol. Don't give me this "Oh EHJ never runs more than x number of people". Idc if you only have 7 of the 6000 EP in your group, the fact is you're zerging. All this "competitive PvP" you keep talking about is bs. How is running over 2 DC with your potato zerg competitive? How is PvDoor competitive? When you were blue on AZ, blue owned the map. Now you are red an 90% of the time, red owns the map. See a connection?

Oh yes, I see a connection. When a competitive group of solid players comes to a map and helps the pugs - the pugs follow. People who generally do not belong to solid PvP guilds that work together well want someone to follow. This is ALWAYS going to be the case.

Are we zerging?

http://plays.tv/video/577f25c299e3c74d8a/another-eso-push-from-ehj-ad-never-get-off-sieges-so-its-easy-kill-them-

http://plays.tv/video/577f23ada43ebf1307/sweet-recipe-how-make-banana-cake-in-one-minute-first-mash-50-bananas-eso-ehj

Are there pugs and other good players around us? Sure there are.

Are they enjoying the game? You bet. I can't tell you how many EP have thanked us for coming over and making EP competitive. The map was blue, but it was ALL yellow when we arrived. We would capture bleakers - 40 AD would show - we would make AP but lose the fight. Then FWF would show up and we would back cap AD - they would all come to us - and FWF would take the in line keeps. Eventually it goes blue - and then the masses of people show up. This thread caused people from other servers to check out Non CP and they also found that it was fun. How is there anything wrong with that?

You can call me what you want - but last night at Sej I saw 40+ AD lead by one of the better AD guilds from Had - and I did not complain - I was psyched we got some competition. When Khole showed up at BRK I was not whining about it - I told our group that it was time to step up the game and be tighter - burst harder - and be aware of Khole tactics that we know about. Were we perfect? Hell no!! But, we had fun and were very appreciative of the competitive guilds that showed up to fight us.

Lastly, Braidas and his crew would flip the map at 6 AM EST. He would hang around all day - holding Arrius, Fare - even the AD gate keeps - and I saw no DC complaining about his PvDooring the map at an early hour to get emp - I saw no DC complaining about him jumping into level 0 freshly captured keeps and abusing malubeth and potentially other things I won't mention here. The pugs from DC defended Arrius, Defended Fare - and some of the better players did as well. How is it on the other end of that pointy stick then?

Notice we do not *** all the scrolls nor defend the gate keeps.

You noted you are viewed somewhat poorly, well I explained why.
The PUGs follow, I get it. But you come on the forums all the time, boasting about the fact that you never run groups larger than x. So when people see Bitaken Unjust emperor inside a zerg of EP streaking through everyone, it's gonna change their views on you. And those players are not just AD/DC, other EP have grown to dislike you. And it's not just because you zerg, lots of people do. It's because you come on here and say you never zerg and that you are on AZ to try and create a competitive campaign when all you're really doing half the time is killing the competition. You didn't make EP competitive. You just come on, take the whole map then run over anything that moves. Sure it seems like competition from your end, but did you feel it was competitive when Braidas and Co. took the map and held Arrius?
Oh I complained about Braidas. But apart from jumping into keeps, you guys do the exact same thing. Oh Braidas and Co. PvDooring emp? I can't remember the number of times when I was on EP that you would say in zone the you got in there real early to take back the map. You even wanted us to thank you for it a few times xD. Braidas holding Arrius and Fare? Refer to my previous post. You tried to defend this by saying PUGs follow. It was always the same group of 2-6 DC at glade yet you felt the need to come with your heavily coordinated group to assist in wiping an already heavily outnumbered group of DC. Don't get me started on the EP trash talk whispers we got >.<
Realistically we're all as bad as each other when it comes to zerging and such, whether we like it or not. The difference is tho, you come on here and try to claim otherwise. I don't think you're as bad for the campaign as some believe. But players will always look for a recognizable name amongst a zerg to put the blame on. For a while there that name was Rylana's. Unfortunately now it's Bitaken Unjust.

That's fine and you can call me what you want. The reality to me is simple. Before EHJ made EP characters and played on this campaign the EP population was NIL. Now? It is 2-3 bars nightly. So, the 2-3 bars DC has and 3 bars to locked AD has....they run small man groups and never zerg but EP is just a giant zerg following Bitaken around.

Got it.

Did we get up early to flip the map from Braidas? Hell yes. With him as emp + a solid group behind him it was nearly impossible to get Arrius never mind dethrone him. And, face it, he never got emp against more than a 1 bar pop.

The 3 bars of DC online at 2:00 AM last night was the potato zerg hitting chalman and dying to oils over and over.

EHJ has always been a small 10-12 man crew. That's what our core is. We did not come to EP and all of a sudden find tons of other EP to just log in and play on this campaign. The fact that they are here is only good for the campaign - or maybe you would rather have us back on DC rolling through EP and AD and have an entirely blue map all the time again. I loved it last night after dethrone when the map was almost perfectly split up 3 ways and fights were going on everywhere.

To say that's not a good thing is just asinine and demonstrative of the play ground for emp this server was before there was a triple presence. Now we have some population and combat going on this is a good thing - and - IDC what you call me - how many keeps are named after me - I was just looking for DB 3.0 and I think we finally may have it. More DC more AD I feel like long term it will unbalance. We don't need more EP either - 2-3 bars is enough of all factions otherwise lag is a serious issue - which it's not right now. The 40 man DC zerg at chal last night at 2:00 AM EST was demonstrative enough to me that we have a healthy server.

Draxys wrote: »

Hopped into AZ last night with mojar and a few others. Playing without CP for the first time took some getting used to, but once I actually gear for it, should be good fun.

Was fun fighting you at kings - normally we see AD and just tackle and roll but after our first encounter we were a lot more tactical for our keep capture.

yodased

I am not shy why everyone thinks any one faction is better or worse for 'ZERGING'.

Yellow has two solid smaller groups and then yellow zerg. I'm not sure how many groups red and blue have but it really seems like there are 2 or 3 smallish blue groups and 1 fairly large red group.

Know what? The players all follow these groups, you are better, more experienced players and usually will show the way for these guys to get involved in battles.

There, for our part at least, is no general attitude that we need as many people as possible to take something, we just announced something is under attack and people make up their minds where to go.

If 20 people show up at a resource it's because we called it out in zone and 20 people responded.

There is no conspiracy against any player, faction or team. We want you all dead equally.

Draxys

bitaken wrote: »

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Draxys wrote: »

Hopped into AZ last night with mojar and a few others. Playing without CP for the first time took some getting used to, but once I actually gear for it, should be good fun.

Was fun fighting you at kings - normally we see AD and just tackle and roll but after our first encounter we were a lot more tactical for our keep capture.

Agreed, I had fun. It's a completely different dynamic, in a very good way. It seems that out-maneuvering your opponent is much more important in Azura's, which is something I very much enjoyed about leading decibel groups back in the day.

Caza99

bitaken wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Wait, did EHJ roll EP on Azura's? Is there room for another DC group to relocate to Azura's without imbalancing the campaign?

Yes moar DC to fight the EP potato zerg

More than a little funny. Last night there were 40+ DC attacking chalman at 2:00 AM EST. That's ok though.

KenaPKK wrote: »

Wait, did EHJ roll EP on Azura's? Is there room for another DC group to relocate to Azura's without imbalancing the campaign?

Yup - EP was a non factor - maybe 2-7 of them on at any given time. Now, we have a 2-3 bar pop nightly. Guilty as charged - sorry people run to flamed keeps and defend and enjoy playing in the campaign because we are here helping daily.

Caza99 wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Well at least today's map was better than the EP zerg fest yesterday. Oh o2 DC too

bitaken wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Epic fun. I'm starting to remember why I found PvP fun in the first place after being totally burnt out on Haderus. I wouldn't even have tried it without this thread, @bitaken , so thanks!

Yup, this is the reason we went to EP. We fell in love with non CP - but with us and a few others on blue - the map was either ALL blue or ALL yellow - the three way action enabled with us an another guild on EP just makes it so much fun. I'm fairly certain with all the keeps named after me that I am viewed somewhat poorly, but this kind of PvP is what makes the game fun for EHJ and just about anyone who plays the game for the actual PvP.

Really was a fun night. I had to be out for some Real life commitments from 5-7 last night and when I got back half the map was lit - but it was grand working with the EP that were online to recapture the ring. Then of course with DC on one side and AD on the other it all boiled down to BRK and that's what makes the whole darn thing worth it. AD on mine side - DC on LM/Farm side - the fights between them - us - and back and forth closing walls / doors and all the chaos that ensues.

I think perhaps the reason you are seen "somewhat poorly" is that you are always seen in the middle of an EP zerg running over a greatly outnumbered group of AD and DC.
Perfect example is yesterday when EP owned all keeps except the 2 DC/AD home keeps. 3 DC, myself included, took glade mine. 3 EP came to investigate and died, must've called out in zone because about 2 minutes later 6000 EP showed up with an emperor Bitaken leading them. And to make things worse, one of you actually sieged us lol. Don't give me this "Oh EHJ never runs more than x number of people". Idc if you only have 7 of the 6000 EP in your group, the fact is you're zerging. All this "competitive PvP" you keep talking about is bs. How is running over 2 DC with your potato zerg competitive? How is PvDoor competitive? When you were blue on AZ, blue owned the map. Now you are red an 90% of the time, red owns the map. See a connection?

Oh yes, I see a connection. When a competitive group of solid players comes to a map and helps the pugs - the pugs follow. People who generally do not belong to solid PvP guilds that work together well want someone to follow. This is ALWAYS going to be the case.

Are we zerging?

http://plays.tv/video/577f25c299e3c74d8a/another-eso-push-from-ehj-ad-never-get-off-sieges-so-its-easy-kill-them-

http://plays.tv/video/577f23ada43ebf1307/sweet-recipe-how-make-banana-cake-in-one-minute-first-mash-50-bananas-eso-ehj

Are there pugs and other good players around us? Sure there are.

Are they enjoying the game? You bet. I can't tell you how many EP have thanked us for coming over and making EP competitive. The map was blue, but it was ALL yellow when we arrived. We would capture bleakers - 40 AD would show - we would make AP but lose the fight. Then FWF would show up and we would back cap AD - they would all come to us - and FWF would take the in line keeps. Eventually it goes blue - and then the masses of people show up. This thread caused people from other servers to check out Non CP and they also found that it was fun. How is there anything wrong with that?

You can call me what you want - but last night at Sej I saw 40+ AD lead by one of the better AD guilds from Had - and I did not complain - I was psyched we got some competition. When Khole showed up at BRK I was not whining about it - I told our group that it was time to step up the game and be tighter - burst harder - and be aware of Khole tactics that we know about. Were we perfect? Hell no!! But, we had fun and were very appreciative of the competitive guilds that showed up to fight us.

Lastly, Braidas and his crew would flip the map at 6 AM EST. He would hang around all day - holding Arrius, Fare - even the AD gate keeps - and I saw no DC complaining about his PvDooring the map at an early hour to get emp - I saw no DC complaining about him jumping into level 0 freshly captured keeps and abusing malubeth and potentially other things I won't mention here. The pugs from DC defended Arrius, Defended Fare - and some of the better players did as well. How is it on the other end of that pointy stick then?

Notice we do not *** all the scrolls nor defend the gate keeps.

You noted you are viewed somewhat poorly, well I explained why.
The PUGs follow, I get it. But you come on the forums all the time, boasting about the fact that you never run groups larger than x. So when people see Bitaken Unjust emperor inside a zerg of EP streaking through everyone, it's gonna change their views on you. And those players are not just AD/DC, other EP have grown to dislike you. And it's not just because you zerg, lots of people do. It's because you come on here and say you never zerg and that you are on AZ to try and create a competitive campaign when all you're really doing half the time is killing the competition. You didn't make EP competitive. You just come on, take the whole map then run over anything that moves. Sure it seems like competition from your end, but did you feel it was competitive when Braidas and Co. took the map and held Arrius?
Oh I complained about Braidas. But apart from jumping into keeps, you guys do the exact same thing. Oh Braidas and Co. PvDooring emp? I can't remember the number of times when I was on EP that you would say in zone the you got in there real early to take back the map. You even wanted us to thank you for it a few times xD. Braidas holding Arrius and Fare? Refer to my previous post. You tried to defend this by saying PUGs follow. It was always the same group of 2-6 DC at glade yet you felt the need to come with your heavily coordinated group to assist in wiping an already heavily outnumbered group of DC. Don't get me started on the EP trash talk whispers we got >.<
Realistically we're all as bad as each other when it comes to zerging and such, whether we like it or not. The difference is tho, you come on here and try to claim otherwise. I don't think you're as bad for the campaign as some believe. But players will always look for a recognizable name amongst a zerg to put the blame on. For a while there that name was Rylana's. Unfortunately now it's Bitaken Unjust.

That's fine and you can call me what you want. The reality to me is simple. Before EHJ made EP characters and played on this campaign the EP population was NIL. Now? It is 2-3 bars nightly. So, the 2-3 bars DC has and 3 bars to locked AD has....they run small man groups and never zerg but EP is just a giant zerg following Bitaken around.

Got it.

Did we get up early to flip the map from Braidas? Hell yes. With him as emp + a solid group behind him it was nearly impossible to get Arrius never mind dethrone him. And, face it, he never got emp against more than a 1 bar pop.

The 3 bars of DC online at 2:00 AM last night was the potato zerg hitting chalman and dying to oils over and over.

EHJ has always been a small 10-12 man crew. That's what our core is. We did not come to EP and all of a sudden find tons of other EP to just log in and play on this campaign. The fact that they are here is only good for the campaign - or maybe you would rather have us back on DC rolling through EP and AD and have an entirely blue map all the time again. I loved it last night after dethrone when the map was almost perfectly split up 3 ways and fights were going on everywhere.

To say that's not a good thing is just asinine and demonstrative of the play ground for emp this server was before there was a triple presence. Now we have some population and combat going on this is a good thing - and - IDC what you call me - how many keeps are named after me - I was just looking for DB 3.0 and I think we finally may have it. More DC more AD I feel like long term it will unbalance. We don't need more EP either - 2-3 bars is enough of all factions otherwise lag is a serious issue - which it's not right now. The 40 man DC zerg at chal last night at 2:00 AM EST was demonstrative enough to me that we have a healthy server.

Draxys wrote: »

Hopped into AZ last night with mojar and a few others. Playing without CP for the first time took some getting used to, but once I actually gear for it, should be good fun.

Was fun fighting you at kings - normally we see AD and just tackle and roll but after our first encounter we were a lot more tactical for our keep capture.

You completely ignored half of what I said. I said that all three factions zerg, I noted that many of the other EP zerg not just you guys, I said I don't agree with what Braidas was doing and I said I don't think you're necessarily bad for the campaign. Yet you respond as if I said the opposite. I think it's time we just agree to disagree because we're just going around in circles here. I'd just like to say this: while I don't agree with you on a lot of things, I do have respect for you and EHJ. What you guys can pull off deserves credit. But I question your tactics and decisions since rerolling EP on AZ.

bitaken

Now if only we could get rid of the 2 bar pop AD oceanics wiping the map every morning we may be on to something akin to a real server.

LeifErickson

KenaPKK wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I use to exclusively play in Azura's when it first came out for a few months. I ended up getting convinced to play in the cp campaigns, but went back to Azura's last night because I wanted to. A half hour later I was wishing I never left. Azura's is so much fun. I am ep as well and managed to have a good time even though we didn't own a single keep until some other EP started to take back a couple of them.

One of the problems I noticed with this campaign is that there seems to be a very large skill gap between the players here. It's great that this campaign is a good place for new players, but I am seeing players anywhere from cp rank 10 and ava rank 40. There was this really tanky trollplar dc that could stay alive with 10 ep on him. He couldn't really kill anybody of course, but there was an ep in zone saying the guy was cheating because he could tank so many people at the same time. These newer players haven't learned about some of the different builds and mechanics in the game yet and because of that they think players like this trollplar are cheating.

Also Azura's AD is full of cat and elf snipers.

You're making me miss Azura's. Our group dethroned the AD emp there a couple days after the Thieves Guild patch, making way for DC, but we haven't been back in an organized manner since we left and Bitaken's group moved in. I was there last week and had fun with Arya and a few others.

How is the Imperial City action in Azura's?

I actually haven't been to IC in Azura's yet. I always just figured it was dead, but who knows?

Minalan

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

Funny watching AD gap close into arrius to get the scroll. I wonder if that player was reported?

though if they play is anything like what we face I dont blame him. 5 of us siege a AD keep and a full raid just waits inside and counter sieges. its pretty lulzy.

Yep, but I bet there won't be a brand new AD whine thread about it. XD

I have to admit staying up late last night just to wipe the oceanics. So much AP and EXP.

The three way fight at Aless early this morning was fun.

Minalan

bitaken wrote: »

Now if only we could get rid of the 2 bar pop AD oceanics wiping the map every morning we may be on to something akin to a real server.

Actually it was EP that wiped the AD Oceanics twice this morning while they were attacking Aless.

DC siege from the front. EP hit them inside the keep walls from the rear with a dozen. All 40 or so of the AD died off. Then AD came back (of course) and cloaked EP gankers tore them apart as they trickled in. Of course we helped with fire trebs, while the EP nightblades swam into the low health AD horde like sharks in a feeding frenzy.

I thanked the EP after we cleaned them up as well. I'm still waiting for a team purple whine thread from AD.

Alishka_Gunter

Sadly that will never go away Bit. Either we accept that they will continue to turn the map blue/yellow/red or we find some of these folks to defend our frontier.

bitaken

Alishka_Gunter wrote: »

Sadly that will never go away Bit. Either we accept that they will continue to turn the map blue/yellow/red or we find some of these folks to defend our frontier.

Oh, I know. Messaging Flip this morning that no one was online why were they wiping the entire map, only yielded - "Oh, but we were on - and do you expect us not to take the scrolls and keeps?"

The fact that we did not do this to them this past week...played no part in their decision. If we had not recapped Arrius while they played with the DC at Ales - we would have had a yellowed out map this morning.

With very few online I had to log around 1:00 EST but at least they weren't going to take any more scrolls at that time.

AD - when you go to QQ this week - remember what you did today. #neverforget #makecyroredagain #gatefarmAD

Back to their old tricks AD is capping Rayles, Warden and back capping Drakelowe from a 4 man EP team.

No, there are no scrolls behind warden or rayles.

This is not going to end well AD. This is the cycle of gate camping that will never end well for the pug zerg faction.

1) No one is going to feed your 40 man zerg AP at the gates.

2) When you get gate capped - both factions will support keeping you there painfully as long as possible.

Didn't Braids and myself teach you guys enough lessons as DC players? We had faregyl for a week straight - then relented and let you out to play. Do you REALLY want that again?

Rylana

I sense a DR presence tomorrow....

Minalan

bitaken wrote: »

Didn't Braids and myself teach you guys enough lessons as DC players? We had faregyl for a week straight - then relented and let you out to play. Do you REALLY want that again?

They want the lesson, let's make it happen. Let's see if they like emperor camping their home keeps.

Draxys

Nice welcome party at Arrius from every red on the server xD

Fun fight, we were just mostly magicka DKs or health builds so we couldn't kill fast enough lol

Chuga_Rei

why does venatus even wear tabards. its easy to spot a group of 10 all wearing maulbeth lol

its like the emp +the queens dumpsterfire or whatever and venatus + every AD pug lol if something is going to ruin this server its going to be pop locked zergs lol

Uncle Sheo

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

why does venatus even wear tabards. its easy to spot a group of 10 all wearing maulbeth lol

its like the emp +the queens dumpsterfire or whatever and venatus + every AD pug lol if something is going to ruin this server its going to be pop locked zergs lol

"is only game, y you heff 2 b mad?"

Force-Siphon

Fun fights on azuras tonight, first time there in awhile playing with my FWF guildies. Every faction had a presence and no lag was good. Was impressed with what AZ has become compared to the last time I was on.

bitaken

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Fun fights on azuras tonight, first time there in awhile playing with my FWF guildies. Every faction had a presence and no lag was good. Was impressed with what AZ has become compared to the last time I was on.

Translation : I was zerging with my AD buddies 24 deep and plowing through 8-10 man groups from DC and EP with a huge smile on my face.

Never saw you with less than 20+ people around you. Spamming overload and outnumbering the enemy takes zero skill and is demonstrative of low class play.

Chuga_Rei

Uncle Sheo wrote: »

"is only game, y you heff 2 b mad?"

you mistake mad for curious lol

I honestly couldnt care less, but how that isnt a "exploit" but gap closing is will never make sense to me.

and personally i respect and like fighting you guys, the other AD "guilds" on the server, not so much.