TM hasn't been running organized groups lately because our typical raid leads have been busy with RL stuff. And honestly, our presence seems to be pretty unappreciated by a lot of AD there (including the ones who fled to Trueflame) who have no clue what we do for the campaign. We aren't just going around setting up a series of AP farms. Not all the time, anyway.
vamp_emily wrote: »I hate to say it but I think Blue has ruined this campaign. I seldom see any TM keep captures anymore, I still see a few TM members here and there but yeah. The AD zone chat is really bummed 24/7 and doesn't like being there anymore. 2 guilds have left on our side. 1 Blue even really pissed me off the other night with hate tells cause I ganked them while they were setting up siege, like buddy stfu your alliance has over populated and sabatoged the campaign.
No one even bothers going for the scrolls anymore cause what's the point? They'll just be gone in the morning anyways. If I take Alessia farm or Roebeck LM by myself and wait for reinforcements to show up and set up siege. Before anyone even has the chance to get there on average of about 6-10 blues will show up and wipe the resource. It was me, purus, and 3 others the other night at Roebeck when like 15 of them showed up...it's super discouraging
What really made me make the post though was when I went to Trueflame last night, and saw how many AD pugs were playing there I knew and recognized, I saw at least 10 alone that I always fought along side with in Azuras, saw a TON of EP players as well. I actually had fun there too, something I haven't had in Azuras for at least a week or 2. It's too bad cause i don't like the CP system but I might have to learn to like it now
I really think they need to shut down BwB forcing the 1000 AD there to move to AS, then the people who can not play on AD/DC because of the poplock will be forced to sit in que or create an EP character.
Balance has ruined the fun in PvP. I used to play every day now I play for a few minutes and go find something else to do.
Darnathian wrote: »Betsy did emp, but as usual it was the DC pugs that pushed BB and BM.
That is not true. Been there gor the last week. There have been 1-2 coordinated raids pushing to gates during primetime against pugs. When asked why they were doing that they laughed and said its been done to them.
TM hasn't been running organized groups lately because our typical raid leads have been busy with RL stuff. And honestly, our presence seems to be pretty unappreciated by a lot of AD there (including the ones who fled to Trueflame) who have no clue what we do for the campaign. We aren't just going around setting up a series of AP farms. Not all the time, anyway.
I appreciate what you guys do a lot. The progress of the map last few days shows it. Also even WHEN AP farms do occur in your guild its to drive the combating faction away so people can start taking stuff again. Yes I've been guilty in tagging along sometimes uninvited but only cause I get tired of going up to the roebeck LM/mine or alessia farm 10 times a day.
There has been instances though where a couple members of TM have blatantly insulted the entire zone calling them idiots though. I know that doesn't reflect TM as a whole cause I talk to a lot of you and you're all pretty chill but when that happens people tend to form opinions.vamp_emily wrote: »I hate to say it but I think Blue has ruined this campaign. I seldom see any TM keep captures anymore, I still see a few TM members here and there but yeah. The AD zone chat is really bummed 24/7 and doesn't like being there anymore. 2 guilds have left on our side. 1 Blue even really pissed me off the other night with hate tells cause I ganked them while they were setting up siege, like buddy stfu your alliance has over populated and sabatoged the campaign.
No one even bothers going for the scrolls anymore cause what's the point? They'll just be gone in the morning anyways. If I take Alessia farm or Roebeck LM by myself and wait for reinforcements to show up and set up siege. Before anyone even has the chance to get there on average of about 6-10 blues will show up and wipe the resource. It was me, purus, and 3 others the other night at Roebeck when like 15 of them showed up...it's super discouraging
What really made me make the post though was when I went to Trueflame last night, and saw how many AD pugs were playing there I knew and recognized, I saw at least 10 alone that I always fought along side with in Azuras, saw a TON of EP players as well. I actually had fun there too, something I haven't had in Azuras for at least a week or 2. It's too bad cause i don't like the CP system but I might have to learn to like it now
I really think they need to shut down BwB forcing the 1000 AD there to move to AS, then the people who can not play on AD/DC because of the poplock will be forced to sit in que or create an EP character.
Balance has ruined the fun in PvP. I used to play every day now I play for a few minutes and go find something else to do.
Isn't BWB non vet like 50 and under? Won't they just level up and go on to other things?
cbaudersub17_ESO wrote: »@Kartalin and @PenguinInACan : I appreciate what you guys do.
Honestly it's just been a few isolated incidents that really bothered me with people in zone chat, I don't mean to make broad accusations there. I might have gotten pretty salty in zone chat, at least by my standards, on two occasions that I let it get to me, so I'm sorry for that. Don't think I called anyone idiots, at least I hope.TM hasn't been running organized groups lately because our typical raid leads have been busy with RL stuff. And honestly, our presence seems to be pretty unappreciated by a lot of AD there (including the ones who fled to Trueflame) who have no clue what we do for the campaign. We aren't just going around setting up a series of AP farms. Not all the time, anyway.
I appreciate what you guys do a lot. The progress of the map last few days shows it. Also even WHEN AP farms do occur in your guild its to drive the combating faction away so people can start taking stuff again. Yes I've been guilty in tagging along sometimes uninvited but only cause I get tired of going up to the roebeck LM/mine or alessia farm 10 times a day.
There has been instances though where a couple members of TM have blatantly insulted the entire zone calling them idiots though. I know that doesn't reflect TM as a whole cause I talk to a lot of you and you're all pretty chill but when that happens people tend to form opinions.
jameslogan425 wrote: »Darnathian wrote: »Betsy did emp, but as usual it was the DC pugs that pushed BB and BM.
That is not true. Been there gor the last week. There have been 1-2 coordinated raids pushing to gates during primetime against pugs. When asked why they were doing that they laughed and said its been done to them.
I have not and will not touch AD or EP's tri-keeps as emp when there are no scrolls inside those keeps or scroll temples. I also repeatedly request, in zone chat, for other people to leave those keeps alone, to not attack them, and to not defend them. Most DC regulars understand the unsportsmanliness of it and the fact that it kills PVP on the server. I do this even though the same courtesy has certainly *not* been given to DC when a different emperor wholeheartedly guarded Warden and Rayles from us with a full emp crew and 3 bars of pugs on a Monday morning.
cbaudersub17_ESO wrote: »@Kartalin and @PenguinInACan : I appreciate what you guys do.Honestly it's just been a few isolated incidents that really bothered me with people in zone chat, I don't mean to make broad accusations there. I might have gotten pretty salty in zone chat, at least by my standards, on two occasions that I let it get to me, so I'm sorry for that. Don't think I called anyone idiots, at least I hope.TM hasn't been running organized groups lately because our typical raid leads have been busy with RL stuff. And honestly, our presence seems to be pretty unappreciated by a lot of AD there (including the ones who fled to Trueflame) who have no clue what we do for the campaign. We aren't just going around setting up a series of AP farms. Not all the time, anyway.
I appreciate what you guys do a lot. The progress of the map last few days shows it. Also even WHEN AP farms do occur in your guild its to drive the combating faction away so people can start taking stuff again. Yes I've been guilty in tagging along sometimes uninvited but only cause I get tired of going up to the roebeck LM/mine or alessia farm 10 times a day.
There has been instances though where a couple members of TM have blatantly insulted the entire zone calling them idiots though. I know that doesn't reflect TM as a whole cause I talk to a lot of you and you're all pretty chill but when that happens people tend to form opinions.
And Mutagem, you actually know what you're doing and you play solo. What bothers us is when we take a northern keep is that so many other players -- entire pug groups -- decide to come join us. This is not our goal, we prefer to do our thing and take pressure off of our allies in the south so they might actually get something done, like finish taking Roebeck or Alessia without having to rely on us. Instead we have a random person messing up our 50-50, or entire groups pulling off priority targets to come to us.
As I've said before, figuring out what you're doing and getting together with a good group of friends to go smash stuff is a ton of fun. But our AD guys have to put in the time to try and get better themselves, learn what makes a good group, and not rely on other people to do it for them all the time.
PenguinInACan wrote: »Honestly at this point there is 100% zero incentive to play on AZ. The limited times I have logged in the past few days DC is camping Fare and now BB attempting to farm AD. And its not organized farming, its randoms and maybe groups of 4-5 hovering around AD that has zero scrolls/hope of population boosts.
If you really do care about sportsmanship Betsy you might want to consider threatening to abdicate, although I know the local AD pugs wouldn't bat an eye at pushing DC to the gate in "retribution"...If this type of play is fun for those DC that are doing it so be it. It seems like this is ZOS's plan on how to kick out those of us that have stuck around and know what the game is supposed to play like when its somewhat working.
I know the next patch is probably the one that will finally get me out.
Cypriot122 wrote: »A lot of AD have left Nihang. I find it funny how people swarm to a camp that there alliance is winning. But when they start losing they all leave. People avoid challenge and being competitive in PvP... doesn't really make sense.
Randomgamers wrote: »When i left AD they were still winning the campaign and TM was farming away. Emp with Storm Knight, really skillful by the way. The AD EMP had over 5mil AP farmed more than anyone else. I was actually number 4 on the AD leader-boards when i left.
I was clearing out the Asian Invasion, they are so easy to kill. Free AP when they get on. I stopped them from taking scrolls multiple times.
The sole reason i left is because of TM, just being honest. They would get EMP and go farm AP in some far away keep while our home keeps and scrolls are being taken. They state that they are keeping pressure off the pugs to go cap another keep but we all know that is BOGUS! They just wanted to farm AP and don't care. They would also push to enemy gates and camp them.
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
Randomgamers wrote: »BETSY FOR EMP!
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
"morale of the faction and how you feel" even tho AD use to be poplocked everyday while nightcapping the map everyday yet DC and EP still logged in to pvp, i never saw you complain bout AD and what they use to do.
if only we could get those AD poplocked pugs again, those were the days.
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
"morale of the faction and how you feel" even tho AD use to be poplocked everyday while nightcapping the map everyday yet DC and EP still logged in to pvp, i never saw you complain bout AD and what they use to do.
uhhhif only we could get those AD poplocked pugs again, those were the days.
So you didn't like that then? Why did you say those were the days then...lol Also when was it nightcapped how many campaigns ago
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
"morale of the faction and how you feel" even tho AD use to be poplocked everyday while nightcapping the map everyday yet DC and EP still logged in to pvp, i never saw you complain bout AD and what they use to do.
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
"morale of the faction and how you feel" even tho AD use to be poplocked everyday while nightcapping the map everyday yet DC and EP still logged in to pvp, i never saw you complain bout AD and what they use to do.
uhhhif only we could get those AD poplocked pugs again, those were the days.
So you didn't like that then? Why did you say those were the days then...lol Also when was it nightcapped how many campaigns ago
i did like the ad poplocked what i dont like is you AD acting like its the end of days and pvp is dead because of DC when it is dead because of you guys and not wanting to actaully PVP.
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
"morale of the faction and how you feel" even tho AD use to be poplocked everyday while nightcapping the map everyday yet DC and EP still logged in to pvp, i never saw you complain bout AD and what they use to do.
uhhhif only we could get those AD poplocked pugs again, those were the days.
So you didn't like that then? Why did you say those were the days then...lol Also when was it nightcapped how many campaigns ago
i did like the ad poplocked what i dont like is you AD acting like its the end of days and pvp is dead because of DC when it is dead because of you guys and not wanting to actaully PVP.
"not wanting to actually pvp"
Let's lay things out shall we?
1. at least 2 guilds have left AD because of the unfair advantage DC has with numbers
2. The people that do want to PVP on AD have to put up with fare farmers every day trolling the resources to even get to a castle/keep and even when we do get a resource at say roe or alessia double the numbers show up and wipe it before siege even has a chance to occur. On top of not having scrolls/emp cause what's the point of even getting them back ? We would just get outnumbered trying to get them back. Also when we even do get scrolls back they're gone by the japanese zerg in the morning anyways.
3. I'm also talking EP leaving too not just AD I saw several EP players on TF yesterday as well cause it's not fun atm.
Various TM members have even said in this thread and to me in TF that its not worth playing on Azuras right now. When some of the servers best players agree that it's not worth it anymore and not JUST ME...maybe...just maybe you should see that I have a point. Cause I don't see one on your end
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
"morale of the faction and how you feel" even tho AD use to be poplocked everyday while nightcapping the map everyday yet DC and EP still logged in to pvp, i never saw you complain bout AD and what they use to do.
uhhhif only we could get those AD poplocked pugs again, those were the days.
So you didn't like that then? Why did you say those were the days then...lol Also when was it nightcapped how many campaigns ago
i did like the ad poplocked what i dont like is you AD acting like its the end of days and pvp is dead because of DC when it is dead because of you guys and not wanting to actaully PVP.
"not wanting to actually pvp"
Let's lay things out shall we?
1. at least 2 guilds have left AD because of the unfair advantage DC has with numbers
2. The people that do want to PVP on AD have to put up with fare farmers every day trolling the resources to even get to a castle/keep and even when we do get a resource at say roe or alessia double the numbers show up and wipe it before siege even has a chance to occur. On top of not having scrolls/emp cause what's the point of even getting them back ? We would just get outnumbered trying to get them back. Also when we even do get scrolls back they're gone by the japanese zerg in the morning anyways.
3. I'm also talking EP leaving too not just AD I saw several EP players on TF yesterday as well cause it's not fun atm.
Various TM members have even said in this thread and to me in TF that its not worth playing on Azuras right now. When some of the servers best players agree that it's not worth it anymore and not JUST ME...maybe...just maybe you should see that I have a point. Cause I don't see one on your end
theres DC to fight i dont understand how its not worth playing on azura are we not here to pvp?
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
"morale of the faction and how you feel" even tho AD use to be poplocked everyday while nightcapping the map everyday yet DC and EP still logged in to pvp, i never saw you complain bout AD and what they use to do.
uhhhif only we could get those AD poplocked pugs again, those were the days.
So you didn't like that then? Why did you say those were the days then...lol Also when was it nightcapped how many campaigns ago
i did like the ad poplocked what i dont like is you AD acting like its the end of days and pvp is dead because of DC when it is dead because of you guys and not wanting to actaully PVP.
"not wanting to actually pvp"
Let's lay things out shall we?
1. at least 2 guilds have left AD because of the unfair advantage DC has with numbers
2. The people that do want to PVP on AD have to put up with fare farmers every day trolling the resources to even get to a castle/keep and even when we do get a resource at say roe or alessia double the numbers show up and wipe it before siege even has a chance to occur. On top of not having scrolls/emp cause what's the point of even getting them back ? We would just get outnumbered trying to get them back. Also when we even do get scrolls back they're gone by the japanese zerg in the morning anyways.
3. I'm also talking EP leaving too not just AD I saw several EP players on TF yesterday as well cause it's not fun atm.
Various TM members have even said in this thread and to me in TF that its not worth playing on Azuras right now. When some of the servers best players agree that it's not worth it anymore and not JUST ME...maybe...just maybe you should see that I have a point. Cause I don't see one on your end
theres DC to fight i dont understand how its not worth playing on azura are we not here to pvp?
Took BRK LM today with 2 EPs. 12 DC showed up, 2 Coldfires on us.
Does that answer your question of having FUN?
PenguinInACan wrote: »mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
"morale of the faction and how you feel" even tho AD use to be poplocked everyday while nightcapping the map everyday yet DC and EP still logged in to pvp, i never saw you complain bout AD and what they use to do.
uhhhif only we could get those AD poplocked pugs again, those were the days.
So you didn't like that then? Why did you say those were the days then...lol Also when was it nightcapped how many campaigns ago
i did like the ad poplocked what i dont like is you AD acting like its the end of days and pvp is dead because of DC when it is dead because of you guys and not wanting to actaully PVP.
"not wanting to actually pvp"
Let's lay things out shall we?
1. at least 2 guilds have left AD because of the unfair advantage DC has with numbers
2. The people that do want to PVP on AD have to put up with fare farmers every day trolling the resources to even get to a castle/keep and even when we do get a resource at say roe or alessia double the numbers show up and wipe it before siege even has a chance to occur. On top of not having scrolls/emp cause what's the point of even getting them back ? We would just get outnumbered trying to get them back. Also when we even do get scrolls back they're gone by the japanese zerg in the morning anyways.
3. I'm also talking EP leaving too not just AD I saw several EP players on TF yesterday as well cause it's not fun atm.
Various TM members have even said in this thread and to me in TF that its not worth playing on Azuras right now. When some of the servers best players agree that it's not worth it anymore and not JUST ME...maybe...just maybe you should see that I have a point. Cause I don't see one on your end
theres DC to fight i dont understand how its not worth playing on azura are we not here to pvp?
Took BRK LM today with 2 EPs. 12 DC showed up, 2 Coldfires on us.
Does that answer your question of having FUN?
SOMEBODY is having fun...just not you
mutagem you sure do cry alot for someone that does so little for his faction, instead of making posts everyday bout how you get teabagged make a group and try to learn how to defend/take keeps.
I don't group I like to play solo because I feel obligated to do certain activities when im in a group which I don't like. I'm not "crying" I'm stating the morale of the faction and how I feel. lol @ me not knowing how to defend or take keeps though. You know how many times i've sneak repped walls from you guys and not gotten caught and oiled/caltrops etc. I know what I"m doing so that's a funny accusation.
"morale of the faction and how you feel" even tho AD use to be poplocked everyday while nightcapping the map everyday yet DC and EP still logged in to pvp, i never saw you complain bout AD and what they use to do.
uhhhif only we could get those AD poplocked pugs again, those were the days.
So you didn't like that then? Why did you say those were the days then...lol Also when was it nightcapped how many campaigns ago
i did like the ad poplocked what i dont like is you AD acting like its the end of days and pvp is dead because of DC when it is dead because of you guys and not wanting to actaully PVP.
"not wanting to actually pvp"
Let's lay things out shall we?
1. at least 2 guilds have left AD because of the unfair advantage DC has with numbers
2. The people that do want to PVP on AD have to put up with fare farmers every day trolling the resources to even get to a castle/keep and even when we do get a resource at say roe or alessia double the numbers show up and wipe it before siege even has a chance to occur. On top of not having scrolls/emp cause what's the point of even getting them back ? We would just get outnumbered trying to get them back. Also when we even do get scrolls back they're gone by the japanese zerg in the morning anyways.
3. I'm also talking EP leaving too not just AD I saw several EP players on TF yesterday as well cause it's not fun atm.
Various TM members have even said in this thread and to me in TF that its not worth playing on Azuras right now. When some of the servers best players agree that it's not worth it anymore and not JUST ME...maybe...just maybe you should see that I have a point. Cause I don't see one on your end
theres DC to fight i dont understand how its not worth playing on azura are we not here to pvp?
Took BRK LM today with 2 EPs. 12 DC showed up, 2 Coldfires on us.
Does that answer your question of having FUN?