Shameful Metoer cheats from a top EP guild NA Trueflame

DeanTheCat

You know, I don't think ZO$ can afford to give out mass perma-bans for this, as the PvP population in ESO is already so small, that perma-bans may very well lead to having no community left at all.

... On the other hand, if they don't do anything about it, there won't be any community left either, as all the dedicated PvP players will jump ship. Either way, Lose-Lose for ZO$.

Jules

Rylana wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Just seen something identical at Arrius. I backed out of the fight immediately. Not cool.

Agreed, and if I catch anyone in DR doing this I am kicking them from guild. This is the only notice they are being given, this is bull.

pssssssst. His name is [Snip].

[Edit to remove naming and shaming]

mtwiggz

Don't worry, Bruce will save us from the Meteors!

Rylana

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

Edit to add: And its not even "every guild" its elements of the older guilds that have always appeared to be miles ahead of anyone else, when realistically by this point, most of us should be pretty even. There arent many people that can beat me 1v1, for example. There are some, some dedicated really good or meta duelers, some just straight better players. But whole guilds of them? No man, ive been in top guilds, I know how it goes. And there are a couple top guilds right now with way too many questionable players in them, ones that I can see using something like this to "git gud."

Its the culture of the game, cant do it on your own, just use the free hax, no one will know...

Skyy

bitaken wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Certainly changes my perspective on the perma rollers.

My nightblade has terrible stam regen and can dodge roll enough times to appear infinite with no problem so I never question it when someone can.

Zheg

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

I know of people that would tap shift just before dodge rolling, I know of people that would use meteor on inclines to cause fall damage, I know of people abusing camo cheese, I can go on and on. That doesn't mean when I come across people that have played in a small group and are good that I immediately think exploit. Your post was close to painting everyone in the same light, and that's what I called out. I would suggest that the majority of the pvp community is disgusted, not enticed by the exploit - but maybe I'm just being optimistic for once.

zyk

@ZOS_BrianWheeler This is the culture of cheating ZOS has cultivated through its lax policies.

Glory

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

Edit to add: And its not even "every guild" its elements of the older guilds that have always appeared to be miles ahead of anyone else, when realistically by this point, most of us should be pretty even. There arent many people that can beat me 1v1, for example. There are some, some dedicated really good or meta duelers, some just straight better players. But whole guilds of them? No man, ive been in top guilds, I know how it goes. And there are a couple top guilds right now with way too many questionable players in them, ones that I can see using something like this to "git gud."

Its the culture of the game, cant do it on your own, just use the free hax, no one will know...

I truly hope you are not referring to the group of players I run with. We are often are accused of exploiting/scripting/whatever because we are competitive, and I have hoped that no accusations of using this hack would go towards us (which I am grateful to say has so far not happened). I am away for the weekend, but I can see my teammates speaking out against this whole cheating scandal because we all are very uncomfortable watching it happen.

I am glad that I have not played this last week, as this whole situation sounds truly deplorable. I am in full support of removing the negative influence from these players into this game permanently.

Poxheart

Well isn't this an interesting development. How soon until this thread is deleted?

Rylana

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

Edit to add: And its not even "every guild" its elements of the older guilds that have always appeared to be miles ahead of anyone else, when realistically by this point, most of us should be pretty even. There arent many people that can beat me 1v1, for example. There are some, some dedicated really good or meta duelers, some just straight better players. But whole guilds of them? No man, ive been in top guilds, I know how it goes. And there are a couple top guilds right now with way too many questionable players in them, ones that I can see using something like this to "git gud."

Its the culture of the game, cant do it on your own, just use the free hax, no one will know...

I truly hope you are not referring to the group of players I run with. We are often are accused of exploiting/scripting/whatever because we are competitive, and I have hoped that no accusations of using this hack would go towards us (which I am grateful to say has so far not happened). I am away for the weekend, but I can see my teammates speaking out against this whole cheating scandal because we all are very uncomfortable watching it happen.

I am glad that I have not played this last week, as this whole situation sounds truly deplorable. I am in full support of removing the negative influence from these players into this game permanently.

No, I dont even know you. Are you NA PC even? Never seen your name in game.

Zheg

Rylana wrote: »

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

Edit to add: And its not even "every guild" its elements of the older guilds that have always appeared to be miles ahead of anyone else, when realistically by this point, most of us should be pretty even. There arent many people that can beat me 1v1, for example. There are some, some dedicated really good or meta duelers, some just straight better players. But whole guilds of them? No man, ive been in top guilds, I know how it goes. And there are a couple top guilds right now with way too many questionable players in them, ones that I can see using something like this to "git gud."

Its the culture of the game, cant do it on your own, just use the free hax, no one will know...

I truly hope you are not referring to the group of players I run with. We are often are accused of exploiting/scripting/whatever because we are competitive, and I have hoped that no accusations of using this hack would go towards us (which I am grateful to say has so far not happened). I am away for the weekend, but I can see my teammates speaking out against this whole cheating scandal because we all are very uncomfortable watching it happen.

I am glad that I have not played this last week, as this whole situation sounds truly deplorable. I am in full support of removing the negative influence from these players into this game permanently.

No, I dont even know you. Are you NA PC even? Never seen your name in game.

He is the one that makes me need a stress-ball after fights when I'm healing the group and my 16k breath is hitting for 1k. He's a banana on TF.

Rylana

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

Edit to add: And its not even "every guild" its elements of the older guilds that have always appeared to be miles ahead of anyone else, when realistically by this point, most of us should be pretty even. There arent many people that can beat me 1v1, for example. There are some, some dedicated really good or meta duelers, some just straight better players. But whole guilds of them? No man, ive been in top guilds, I know how it goes. And there are a couple top guilds right now with way too many questionable players in them, ones that I can see using something like this to "git gud."

Its the culture of the game, cant do it on your own, just use the free hax, no one will know...

I truly hope you are not referring to the group of players I run with. We are often are accused of exploiting/scripting/whatever because we are competitive, and I have hoped that no accusations of using this hack would go towards us (which I am grateful to say has so far not happened). I am away for the weekend, but I can see my teammates speaking out against this whole cheating scandal because we all are very uncomfortable watching it happen.

I am glad that I have not played this last week, as this whole situation sounds truly deplorable. I am in full support of removing the negative influence from these players into this game permanently.

No, I dont even know you. Are you NA PC even? Never seen your name in game.

He is the one that makes me need a stress-ball after fights when I'm healing the group and my 16k breath is hitting for 1k. He's a banana on TF.

Oh one of those rare breed, AD TF... not many of those left, but thats another thread entirely.

Lokey0024

Alcast wrote: »

Zenimax right now

"Hey guys i got the new DB patch finished...omg everything on fire!"

Rohamad_Ali

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

I know of people that would tap shift just before dodge rolling, I know of people that would use meteor on inclines to cause fall damage, I know of people abusing camo cheese, I can go on and on. That doesn't mean when I come across people that have played in a small group and are good that I immediately think exploit. Your post was close to painting everyone in the same light, and that's what I called out. I would suggest that the majority of the pvp community is disgusted, not enticed by the exploit - but maybe I'm just being optimistic for once.

Most people are disgusted . Good players shouldn't be cast in doubt just because they're good . They're a lot of legitimate good players that would never need a cheat engine to help them win .

TrinityBreaker

Kikazaru wrote: »

EP HAS NO HONOR.


They are here at alessia with a meteor shower at this very moment.. ugh

Woah, dont group/blame all of EP in that *** for the sins of few.

Rylana

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

I know of people that would tap shift just before dodge rolling, I know of people that would use meteor on inclines to cause fall damage, I know of people abusing camo cheese, I can go on and on. That doesn't mean when I come across people that have played in a small group and are good that I immediately think exploit. Your post was close to painting everyone in the same light, and that's what I called out. I would suggest that the majority of the pvp community is disgusted, not enticed by the exploit - but maybe I'm just being optimistic for once.

Most people are disgusted . Good players shouldn't be cast in doubt just because they're good . They're are a lot of legitimate good players that would never need a cheat engine to help them win .

Agreed, but there are others that surely would. More than many might think.

Glory

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

Edit to add: And its not even "every guild" its elements of the older guilds that have always appeared to be miles ahead of anyone else, when realistically by this point, most of us should be pretty even. There arent many people that can beat me 1v1, for example. There are some, some dedicated really good or meta duelers, some just straight better players. But whole guilds of them? No man, ive been in top guilds, I know how it goes. And there are a couple top guilds right now with way too many questionable players in them, ones that I can see using something like this to "git gud."

Its the culture of the game, cant do it on your own, just use the free hax, no one will know...

I truly hope you are not referring to the group of players I run with. We are often are accused of exploiting/scripting/whatever because we are competitive, and I have hoped that no accusations of using this hack would go towards us (which I am grateful to say has so far not happened). I am away for the weekend, but I can see my teammates speaking out against this whole cheating scandal because we all are very uncomfortable watching it happen.

I am glad that I have not played this last week, as this whole situation sounds truly deplorable. I am in full support of removing the negative influence from these players into this game permanently.

No, I dont even know you. Are you NA PC even? Never seen your name in game.

He is the one that makes me need a stress-ball after fights when I'm healing the group and my 16k breath is hitting for 1k. He's a banana on TF.

Sorry about that. And yes, I'm a nobody apparently which is cool

rfennell_ESO

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

I'd call you on it in an instant if you were... but you are yours are killable for the most part and I don't see any bs for the most part.

However your cross faction assisters that you engage with are....

Let's just say it doesn't take 30 seconds to ride from nikel to allesia. You know that and your assist takes about that much time to get there....

Aenlir

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

Edit to add: And its not even "every guild" its elements of the older guilds that have always appeared to be miles ahead of anyone else, when realistically by this point, most of us should be pretty even. There arent many people that can beat me 1v1, for example. There are some, some dedicated really good or meta duelers, some just straight better players. But whole guilds of them? No man, ive been in top guilds, I know how it goes. And there are a couple top guilds right now with way too many questionable players in them, ones that I can see using something like this to "git gud."

Its the culture of the game, cant do it on your own, just use the free hax, no one will know...

I truly hope you are not referring to the group of players I run with. We are often are accused of exploiting/scripting/whatever because we are competitive, and I have hoped that no accusations of using this hack would go towards us (which I am grateful to say has so far not happened). I am away for the weekend, but I can see my teammates speaking out against this whole cheating scandal because we all are very uncomfortable watching it happen.

I am glad that I have not played this last week, as this whole situation sounds truly deplorable. I am in full support of removing the negative influence from these players into this game permanently.

No, I dont even know you. Are you NA PC even? Never seen your name in game.

He is the one that makes me need a stress-ball after fights when I'm healing the group and my 16k breath is hitting for 1k. He's a banana on TF.

Sorry about that. And yes, I'm a nobody apparently which is cool

A nobody who outclasses 99% of people in this game in more ways than one. Glory OP

Edit: See mojican's vid for Glory's Fasalla hax

Rylana

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

Edit to add: And its not even "every guild" its elements of the older guilds that have always appeared to be miles ahead of anyone else, when realistically by this point, most of us should be pretty even. There arent many people that can beat me 1v1, for example. There are some, some dedicated really good or meta duelers, some just straight better players. But whole guilds of them? No man, ive been in top guilds, I know how it goes. And there are a couple top guilds right now with way too many questionable players in them, ones that I can see using something like this to "git gud."

Its the culture of the game, cant do it on your own, just use the free hax, no one will know...

I truly hope you are not referring to the group of players I run with. We are often are accused of exploiting/scripting/whatever because we are competitive, and I have hoped that no accusations of using this hack would go towards us (which I am grateful to say has so far not happened). I am away for the weekend, but I can see my teammates speaking out against this whole cheating scandal because we all are very uncomfortable watching it happen.

I am glad that I have not played this last week, as this whole situation sounds truly deplorable. I am in full support of removing the negative influence from these players into this game permanently.

No, I dont even know you. Are you NA PC even? Never seen your name in game.

He is the one that makes me need a stress-ball after fights when I'm healing the group and my 16k breath is hitting for 1k. He's a banana on TF.

Sorry about that. And yes, I'm a nobody apparently which is cool

I didnt call you a nobody, I have personally never seen you is all. Probably because on TF I also play AD and run solo, so have never met you in "glorious" kombat.

Jules

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

That doesn't mean when I come across people that have played in a small group and are good that I immediately think exploit. Your post was close to painting everyone in the same light, and that's what I called out. I would suggest that the majority of the pvp community is disgusted, not enticed by the exploit - but maybe I'm just being optimistic for once.

God I can't believe I'm agreeing with Zheg, but I'm agreeing with Zheg. To paint all good players out to be exploiters just because a few scrubby few are is not only unfair, it's also a cop out.

Kilandros

LOL @ ZoS, just LOL

Zheg

Jules wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

That doesn't mean when I come across people that have played in a small group and are good that I immediately think exploit. Your post was close to painting everyone in the same light, and that's what I called out. I would suggest that the majority of the pvp community is disgusted, not enticed by the exploit - but maybe I'm just being optimistic for once.

God I can't believe I'm agreeing with Zheg, but I'm agreeing with Zheg. To paint all good players out to be exploiters just because a few scrubby few are is not only unfair, it's also a cop out.

Rohamad_Ali

Rylana wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

I know of people that would tap shift just before dodge rolling, I know of people that would use meteor on inclines to cause fall damage, I know of people abusing camo cheese, I can go on and on. That doesn't mean when I come across people that have played in a small group and are good that I immediately think exploit. Your post was close to painting everyone in the same light, and that's what I called out. I would suggest that the majority of the pvp community is disgusted, not enticed by the exploit - but maybe I'm just being optimistic for once.

Most people are disgusted . Good players shouldn't be cast in doubt just because they're good . They're are a lot of legitimate good players that would never need a cheat engine to help them win .

Agreed, but there are others that surely would. More than many might think.

OH I know . I just don't feel like rehashing the last 2 years to get told I need a new tinfoil hat . I'll let others relive those memorable moments this time .

V3ntoux

Jules wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Just seen something identical at Arrius. I backed out of the fight immediately. Not cool.

Agreed, and if I catch anyone in DR doing this I am kicking them from guild. This is the only notice they are being given, this is bull.

pssssssst. His name is [Snip].

Rylana, care to comment?

Rylana

V3ntoux wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Just seen something identical at Arrius. I backed out of the fight immediately. Not cool.

Agreed, and if I catch anyone in DR doing this I am kicking them from guild. This is the only notice they are being given, this is bull.

pssssssst. His name is [Snip].

Rylana, care to comment?

I have made my position clear.

Jules

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

I wonder how much sustain issues are actually from the CP system now.

Good question, I also wonder just how deep this rabbit hole really goes, how far back it goes, if me and mine may very well be the only upper tier players NOT using this cheat program in some fashion.

Ive always suspected some people of having an unfair advantage out there, I can usually tell a good build or something that should win a fight, or a good strat. But there have been instances were things happen that made not a lick of sense, and resulted in an outcome that really should not have happened.

Personally, I have always played legitimate. Even in single player games where you can get a game genie or a code to plug in to unlock weapons and stuff, it ruins games for me. The fallout from this might be enormous. There have always been those special players that seemed a whole tier higher than anyone else. Makes you wonder eh? From a peer review standpoint.

Casting shade on every remaining guild in the dwindling pvp population and trying to insinuate you may be the only righteous guild is /facepalm worthy. If I start seeing this when I'm actually fighting groups then it will be appropriate to play that game, but until then, you lost, get over it. It's far more likely that you just got beat, not that your opponents exploited. I'm not going to give your comment any more attention than it deserves.

You dont get it, do you? There have always been those small little groups that could do more than anyone else, and quite frankly Zheg, you and I are top tier players at the top of our game that have played the game forever, know most if not all of the community, strats, builds, etc.... and you are gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face youve never noticed the select few seeming to always have it easier than others?

Cmon.

Edit to add: And its not even "every guild" its elements of the older guilds that have always appeared to be miles ahead of anyone else, when realistically by this point, most of us should be pretty even. There arent many people that can beat me 1v1, for example. There are some, some dedicated really good or meta duelers, some just straight better players. But whole guilds of them? No man, ive been in top guilds, I know how it goes. And there are a couple top guilds right now with way too many questionable players in them, ones that I can see using something like this to "git gud."

Its the culture of the game, cant do it on your own, just use the free hax, no one will know...

I truly hope you are not referring to the group of players I run with. We are often are accused of exploiting/scripting/whatever because we are competitive, and I have hoped that no accusations of using this hack would go towards us (which I am grateful to say has so far not happened). I am away for the weekend, but I can see my teammates speaking out against this whole cheating scandal because we all are very uncomfortable watching it happen.

I am glad that I have not played this last week, as this whole situation sounds truly deplorable. I am in full support of removing the negative influence from these players into this game permanently.

No, I dont even know you. Are you NA PC even? Never seen your name in game.

He is the one that makes me need a stress-ball after fights when I'm healing the group and my 16k breath is hitting for 1k. He's a banana on TF.

Sorry about that. And yes, I'm a nobody apparently which is cool

You are far from a nobody. Anyone important knows who you are. You're OP glory.

Zheg

I would just like to point out that if this isn't fixed before the DB patch drops, the sh3t show will be so bad that it will actually pass into the realm of hilarious. Forget meteors... the l33t exploiters will be doing it with negates.



@Satiar in our theorycrafting for next patch you thought I was being overly neurotic about how many negates we'd run into ... now wut!?

manny254

Zheg wrote: »

I would just like to point out that if this isn't fixed before the DB patch drops, the sh3t show will be so bad that it will actually pass into the realm of hilarious. Forget meteors... the l33t exploiters will be doing it with negates.

Don't forget magma armor!

Mako1132

Wargaard wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDML4qKekGY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znZvXiU6f0E


Ban these idiots and FIX THIS PROBLEM. This is GAME BREAKING.

So tell me. Without these "idiots", who are blatantly and doing this openly (perhaps to prove a point?) how else would anyone know??
I mean I haven't seen you (and many now vocal others) campaigning against the very prevalent speed hacks....
Just sayin'.

On the other hand for the sake of the game ofc this needs to be fixed asap. Literally, ASAP.

Everyone doing this should be perma banned no questions asked.

ZOS is aware, and the people you're calling out have made them aware in the past. It's just not good form to publish hacks and exploits (and against the TOS). However, I believe there's a point where if something becomes as widespread as it seemingly is right now that it's ok to be vocal about it.