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Official Feedback Thread for Sorcerers

  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    Minalan wrote: »
    I thought that had increased the duration of empowered ward to 10 seconds. The patch notes says "8".

    Which is it?

    Also yeah. Not using dark exchange. The designers are as stubborn on that as they are stupid.

    Its 10 on live, someone made a snafu in the notes
  • Birdovic
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    I couldnt test myself yet, how high is
    Surge flat heal now
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    Dark Exchange
  • cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO
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    I couldnt test myself yet, how high is
    Surge flat heal now
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    Dark Exchange

    Dark exchange is still bad and surge is only a buff for tanks, really. For the rest it's a nerf.
    R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
    VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
    March 2014 - May 2016
    He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
    Then came the Dark Brotherhood

    Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
    Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
  • Birdovic
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    I couldnt test myself yet, how high is
    Surge flat heal now
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    Dark Exchange

    Dark exchange is still bad and surge is only a buff for tanks, really. For the rest it's a nerf.

    Yeah, expected that... but still, there were some changes announced by Wrobel in that "Discussion Thread" for sorcerers, so I was curious how much it actually is now.
  • cpuScientist
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Empowered ward back down to 8 seconds. Dark exchange only increased health return by 75% instead of 100%. Never was going to use it, but why would I now?

    Are you sure? This was one of the things they changed back in 2.4.3. They reverted it to 8? Really?

    Check it out, that has to be a patch note error, because empowered was actually *good* for pledges and raids.



    It was never changed to 10, from my understanding the magicka regen passive was changed to 10 seconds. The ward stayed at 8
  • GreatWhite000
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    I couldnt test myself yet, how high is
    Surge flat heal now
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    Dark Exchange

    Dark exchange is still bad and surge is only a buff for tanks, really. For the rest it's a nerf.

    not sure how its a buff to tanks. What kind of tank works crit into their build?
  • Grao
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    I couldnt test myself yet, how high is
    Surge flat heal now
    and
    Dark Exchange

    Dark exchange is still bad and surge is only a buff for tanks, really. For the rest it's a nerf.

    not sure how its a buff to tanks. What kind of tank works crit into their build?

    According to @Wrobel that is something sorcerers should be focusing on. Building crit based tanks...
  • Grao
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    GriM_728 wrote: »
    Geeze...feel like ZOS rammed a weiner shaped cactus up my sorcs rear end. Thankfully I have a magicka NB and stam dk. Thanks ZOS for crushing my love </3

    ^That... That does describe the feeling pretty well...
  • Minalan
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    It looks like empowered is ten seconds. We're fine.
    Edited by Minalan on May 31, 2016 7:58PM
  • Feynn
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    @Grao , I think your signature really sums it up better than a hundred posts! :smiley:
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  • Feynn
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    Oh, and the introduction of crafting bags also nerfs my Sorcerer's usefulness as a bank alt for crafting materials.
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  • dotlife
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    Its not too bad all in all. Did a vMA run getting 3 deaths, untill i got dc'd due to maintanance at stage 9, phase 2 in the clouds. 3 Deaths is about what I avaragely do in vMA. Also I wasnt using the new enchants, that i hear is good. I would say that its a bit of a nerf but its certainly doable. Also I fairly certain i will get the no death run that I was afraid I would never get after the nerfs...
    Edited by dotlife on May 31, 2016 8:12PM
  • cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO
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    I couldnt test myself yet, how high is
    Surge flat heal now
    and
    Dark Exchange

    Dark exchange is still bad and surge is only a buff for tanks, really. For the rest it's a nerf.

    not sure how its a buff to tanks. What kind of tank works crit into their build?

    That's what he wants sorc tanks to do apparently, lol.
    R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
    VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
    March 2014 - May 2016
    He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
    Then came the Dark Brotherhood

    Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
    Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
  • Grao
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    Feynn wrote: »
    @Grao , I think your signature really sums it up better than a hundred posts! :smiley:

    I encourage everyone that mains / has a sorcerer and will not play it during this awful patch to copy the idea for that signature. Maybe if ZoS sees that they will work on some needed changes, I don't think Moderators can snip our signatures apart.
  • cpuScientist
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    HAHAHAHA. I'll be a big.man and say it, @Wrobel good work on the health with pets. Since we cannot use shields the extra health is nice.

    But please do give us am active ability on bound aegis, and let it not be a toggle
  • Beardimus
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    Agree on the Toggle ^ would be amazing.
    Xbox One | EU | EP
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    Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
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    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
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  • Grao
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    HAHAHAHA. I'll be a big.man and say it, @Wrobel good work on the health with pets. Since we cannot use shields the extra health is nice.

    But please do give us am active ability on bound aegis, and let it not be a toggle

    Unfortunately the pets only get extra health in PvP! Well, at least they can't be one shot anymore.
  • cpuScientist
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    Grao wrote: »
    HAHAHAHA. I'll be a big.man and say it, @Wrobel good work on the health with pets. Since we cannot use shields the extra health is nice.

    But please do give us am active ability on bound aegis, and let it not be a toggle

    Unfortunately the pets only get extra health in PvP! Well, at least they can't be one shot anymore.

    Oh I meant the health passive. I don't need to rely on shields in dungeons if I just bring my AOE pet along.
  • cpuScientist
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    I would still rather magicka though
  • cpuScientist
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    Bound aegis is the trap of Mag Sorcs. It's bonus is good. But the slots it takes up is bad. I would say either give us that as a passive (Max magicka Max stamina passive like NB ger) For it to be a toggle though, it has too give us either twice the utility of other skills or twice the damage. It gives us good utility in the max magicka, but the minor ward is so weak it's basically negligible.

    I will suggest adding a DPS component to it or another strong utility, such as a burst heal or something of the sort.

    But in truth the skill should be dropped off altogether. It is simply archaic at this point in the game. At this stage of the game toggles are no longer any good, they take up too many slots and stifle diversity.
  • cpuScientist
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    I was doing pretty ok last night in duels. Still as I expected a fear can kill me if it's a few seconds into my shield time, and the stamina cost to break free has skyrocketed. Took 65% of my stamina to break free. I use to be able to atleast get off 3 break frees with my 9k Stam pool now o cam only get 1 sigh
  • cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO
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    I was doing pretty ok last night in duels. Still as I expected a fear can kill me if it's a few seconds into my shield time, and the stamina cost to break free has skyrocketed. Took 65% of my stamina to break free. I use to be able to atleast get off 3 break frees with my 9k Stam pool now o cam only get 1 sigh

    So stamina is the best by far to play as in PvP now I guess, lol.
    R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
    VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
    March 2014 - May 2016
    He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
    Then came the Dark Brotherhood

    Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
    Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
  • cpuScientist
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    I was doing pretty ok last night in duels. Still as I expected a fear can kill me if it's a few seconds into my shield time, and the stamina cost to break free has skyrocketed. Took 65% of my stamina to break free. I use to be able to atleast get off 3 break frees with my 9k Stam pool now o cam only get 1 sigh

    So stamina is the best by far to play as in PvP now I guess, lol.

    Yea honestly. Stam can get away with little magic but we have to have magic or reduce break free cost. We may all have to begin using reactive I guess lol.
  • Grao
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    I was doing pretty ok last night in duels. Still as I expected a fear can kill me if it's a few seconds into my shield time, and the stamina cost to break free has skyrocketed. Took 65% of my stamina to break free. I use to be able to atleast get off 3 break frees with my 9k Stam pool now o cam only get 1 sigh

    So stamina is the best by far to play as in PvP now I guess, lol.

    Yea honestly. Stam can get away with little magic but we have to have magic or reduce break free cost. We may all have to begin using reactive I guess lol.

    Ooooor just reroll a class that isn't horrible! XD
  • cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO
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    Grao wrote: »
    I was doing pretty ok last night in duels. Still as I expected a fear can kill me if it's a few seconds into my shield time, and the stamina cost to break free has skyrocketed. Took 65% of my stamina to break free. I use to be able to atleast get off 3 break frees with my 9k Stam pool now o cam only get 1 sigh

    So stamina is the best by far to play as in PvP now I guess, lol.

    Yea honestly. Stam can get away with little magic but we have to have magic or reduce break free cost. We may all have to begin using reactive I guess lol.

    Ooooor just reroll a class that isn't horrible! XD

    Eh, I just went and started playing through the witcher 3 for now, and I got a ton of games to play through. Not wasting my time levelling an alt.
    R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
    VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
    March 2014 - May 2016
    He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
    Then came the Dark Brotherhood

    Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
    Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
  • Grao
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    Grao wrote: »
    I was doing pretty ok last night in duels. Still as I expected a fear can kill me if it's a few seconds into my shield time, and the stamina cost to break free has skyrocketed. Took 65% of my stamina to break free. I use to be able to atleast get off 3 break frees with my 9k Stam pool now o cam only get 1 sigh

    So stamina is the best by far to play as in PvP now I guess, lol.

    Yea honestly. Stam can get away with little magic but we have to have magic or reduce break free cost. We may all have to begin using reactive I guess lol.

    Ooooor just reroll a class that isn't horrible! XD

    Eh, I just went and started playing through the witcher 3 for now, and I got a ton of games to play through. Not wasting my time levelling an alt.

    Reaching lvl 50 is easy, leveling and unlocking skills is what I find most annoying, but eh... it can be done without too much problem. I do agree though, that playing other games sounds very tempting, Overwatch and Witcher 3 are great :p
  • cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO
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    Grao wrote: »
    Grao wrote: »
    I was doing pretty ok last night in duels. Still as I expected a fear can kill me if it's a few seconds into my shield time, and the stamina cost to break free has skyrocketed. Took 65% of my stamina to break free. I use to be able to atleast get off 3 break frees with my 9k Stam pool now o cam only get 1 sigh

    So stamina is the best by far to play as in PvP now I guess, lol.

    Yea honestly. Stam can get away with little magic but we have to have magic or reduce break free cost. We may all have to begin using reactive I guess lol.

    Ooooor just reroll a class that isn't horrible! XD

    Eh, I just went and started playing through the witcher 3 for now, and I got a ton of games to play through. Not wasting my time levelling an alt.

    Reaching lvl 50 is easy, leveling and unlocking skills is what I find most annoying, but eh... it can be done without too much problem. I do agree though, that playing other games sounds very tempting, Overwatch and Witcher 3 are great :p

    Not played Overwatch, played Battleborn instead. But yeah, there's lots of other great games out there that doesn't have an arrogant, ignorant dev.
    Edited by cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO on June 1, 2016 3:05PM
    R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
    VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
    March 2014 - May 2016
    He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
    Then came the Dark Brotherhood

    Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
    Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
  • cpuScientist
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    Grao wrote: »
    Grao wrote: »
    I was doing pretty ok last night in duels. Still as I expected a fear can kill me if it's a few seconds into my shield time, and the stamina cost to break free has skyrocketed. Took 65% of my stamina to break free. I use to be able to atleast get off 3 break frees with my 9k Stam pool now o cam only get 1 sigh

    So stamina is the best by far to play as in PvP now I guess, lol.

    Yea honestly. Stam can get away with little magic but we have to have magic or reduce break free cost. We may all have to begin using reactive I guess lol.

    Ooooor just reroll a class that isn't horrible! XD

    Eh, I just went and started playing through the witcher 3 for now, and I got a ton of games to play through. Not wasting my time levelling an alt.

    Reaching lvl 50 is easy, leveling and unlocking skills is what I find most annoying, but eh... it can be done without too much problem. I do agree though, that playing other games sounds very tempting, Overwatch and Witcher 3 are great :p

    Not played Overwatch, played Battleborn instead. But yeah, there's lots of other great games out there that doesn't have an arrogant, ignorant dev.

    Yea I want to play battleborn. I hope it's good
  • cpuScientist
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    I played ICP (nerfed by the way, no challenge just a long slog through a dungeon now) but we are lacking. Hardened ward is out of the question. So we have to rely on surge heals and healers.

    We need something. I feel like a whack NB
  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    Grao wrote: »
    Grao wrote: »
    I was doing pretty ok last night in duels. Still as I expected a fear can kill me if it's a few seconds into my shield time, and the stamina cost to break free has skyrocketed. Took 65% of my stamina to break free. I use to be able to atleast get off 3 break frees with my 9k Stam pool now o cam only get 1 sigh

    So stamina is the best by far to play as in PvP now I guess, lol.

    Yea honestly. Stam can get away with little magic but we have to have magic or reduce break free cost. We may all have to begin using reactive I guess lol.

    Ooooor just reroll a class that isn't horrible! XD

    Eh, I just went and started playing through the witcher 3 for now, and I got a ton of games to play through. Not wasting my time levelling an alt.

    Reaching lvl 50 is easy, leveling and unlocking skills is what I find most annoying, but eh... it can be done without too much problem. I do agree though, that playing other games sounds very tempting, Overwatch and Witcher 3 are great :p

    Not played Overwatch, played Battleborn instead. But yeah, there's lots of other great games out there that doesn't have an arrogant, ignorant dev.

    im doing a fresh borderlands pre-sequal run with the doppleganger, seems buffed since i last played him. Certianally a better experiance and communication from the creators to the players, the gold key system was, and will always be, the best loot present's thats existed. they love their players, unlike other dev teams that shall remain obvious, but nameless.
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