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Official Feedback Thread for Sorcerers
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Glantir✭✭✭✭I really want to see the class statistics of the servers, I'm sure after the patchnotes from last week several new NB's und DK's were created
Glantir Sorcerer ~ Ebonheart Pact (EU)0 -
XaXa✭✭✭✭Honestly I feel like ZOS determines balance changes by throwing darts at a large sheet of paper. I Personally cant wait for the day the dart combo gives us a caltrops morph that hits for 500k on the first tick. with some of their changes I don't think its that unrealistic.1 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Honestly I feel like ZOS determines balance changes by throwing darts at a large sheet of paper. I Personally cant wait for the day the dart combo gives us a caltrops morph that hits for 500k on the first tick. with some of their changes I don't think its that unrealistic.
Wait till you see siege engine damage coming up!0 -
Natas013✭✭✭Honestly I feel like ZOS determines balance changes by throwing darts at a large sheet of paper. I Personally cant wait for the day the dart combo gives us a caltrops morph that hits for 500k on the first tick. with some of their changes I don't think its that unrealistic.
They do this pin the tail on the donkey style don't they? Blind folded, spun around, then pointed in the general direction of the paper. lolRIP Ellania Delome
June 9, 2015-June 14, 2016
A skilled crafter, competent sorcerer, and denizen of the night
Along came the Dark Brotherhood and summarily ended it all0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Still waiting for ZOS to throw a curveball and make Sorcs insanely powerful in the last incremental.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
XaXa✭✭✭✭Still waiting for ZOS to throw a curveball and make Sorcs insanely powerful in the last incremental.
wouldn't be surprised if the natch potes read:
Streak: Changed this morph to now be crushing shock. Only works with destro staff equipped. this will boost sorc DPS as they will now technically have a instant spamable class ability.
Also all sorc passives have now been renamed to "We don't care anymore" you now deal 100/200% extra damage at levels 1/2. But casting any class ability causes you to also take 45% of your max health as damage every second for 30 seconds stacks up to 100 times....
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Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭Still waiting for ZOS to throw a curveball and make Sorcs insanely powerful in the last incremental.
I don't want to be insanely powerful... That will only result on becoming even weaker than we are right now later on because ZoS can't be gentle with the nerf bat, they have to just *** you with it everytime >.>
I just want more of our build viable and competitive. We don't need to be the new OP, we just need good and more options >.<3 -
NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭Over 1000 replies here... and 19 pages of stamina sorc replies (on the other one, cuz sorcs needed 2 official channels ... cuz thats just how !@$#!@# we are ! So @!#$@# funny I'm laughing and grimacing angrily at the same time )
short list of requests:
Give pets CP, Add new pet sets, Give stam sorcs and magicka sorcs a class spam-able ability that is at least as strong (preferably stronger then force pulse), Rework passives and abilities to give us a unique identity now that ours has evaporated this patch, reconsider the 6 second shield thing.650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
Broken'Stick North American Server
https://www.twitch.tv/trixytricks2 -
PainfulFAFA✭✭✭✭✭
✭Over 1000 replies here... and 19 pages of stamina sorc replies (on the other one, cuz sorcs needed 2 official channels ... cuz thats just how !@$#!@# we are ! So @!#$@# funny I'm laughing and grimacing angrily at the same time )
short list of requests:
Give pets CP, Add new pet sets, Give stam sorcs and magicka sorcs a class spam-able ability that is at least as strong (preferably stronger then force pulse), Rework passives and abilities to give us a unique identity now that ours has evaporated this patch, reconsider the 6 second shield thing.
You forgot to add "remove crystal blast and kill it with fire" to that short list of requests there
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Glantir✭✭✭✭Over 1000 replies here... and 19 pages of stamina sorc replies (on the other one, cuz sorcs needed 2 official channels ... cuz thats just how !@$#!@# we are ! So @!#$@# funny I'm laughing and grimacing angrily at the same time )
short list of requests:
Give pets CP, Add new pet sets, Give stam sorcs and magicka sorcs a class spam-able ability that is at least as strong (preferably stronger then force pulse), Rework passives and abilities to give us a unique identity now that ours has evaporated this patch, reconsider the 6 second shield thing.
I dont understand why no Mod is saying something like that "we read your feedback and we are working on it"....Glantir Sorcerer ~ Ebonheart Pact (EU)1 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭PainfulFAFA wrote: »Over 1000 replies here... and 19 pages of stamina sorc replies (on the other one, cuz sorcs needed 2 official channels ... cuz thats just how !@$#!@# we are ! So @!#$@# funny I'm laughing and grimacing angrily at the same time )
short list of requests:
Give pets CP, Add new pet sets, Give stam sorcs and magicka sorcs a class spam-able ability that is at least as strong (preferably stronger then force pulse), Rework passives and abilities to give us a unique identity now that ours has evaporated this patch, reconsider the 6 second shield thing.
You forgot to add "remove crystal blast and kill it with fire" to that short list of requests there
NAh, that ability needs to be more similar to Crystal Fragments and be a Stamina morph.
The ability we need to get rid off is Dark Exchange. No matter how much they buff it it will remain a useless skill as they won't make it instant casting because of perma blocking in PvP. I vote this ability to become our Spammable ability, it is in the right tree too.
I'd also add to the wish list to give Actives to Bound Aegis and Bound Armaments, they gave those for the pets, so they have the scripting to make it work already.3 -
Flaminir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Over 1000 replies here... and 19 pages of stamina sorc replies (on the other one, cuz sorcs needed 2 official channels ... cuz thats just how !@$#!@# we are ! So @!#$@# funny I'm laughing and grimacing angrily at the same time )
short list of requests:
Give pets CP, Add new pet sets, Give stam sorcs and magicka sorcs a class spam-able ability that is at least as strong (preferably stronger then force pulse), Rework passives and abilities to give us a unique identity now that ours has evaporated this patch, reconsider the 6 second shield thing.
I dont understand why no Mod is saying something like that "we read your feedback and we are working on it"....
Because they aren't working on it!
GM of the Unholy LegacyEU/EPSorcerer Flaminir (Magicka) / Staminir (Stamina)
Templar Elixiia (Magicka/Healer) / Lotti Velooni (Magicka)
DragonKnight Xalora Flaminar (Tank) / Unholy-Dragon-Toad (Tank)
Nightblade Aimee Owlious (Magicka) / Myttens (Stamina)
Warden: Frosti-Tute (Magicka/Healer) Boops-Many-Snoots (Stamina/Tank)6 -
Tyrion87✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Over 1000 replies here... and 19 pages of stamina sorc replies (on the other one, cuz sorcs needed 2 official channels ... cuz thats just how !@$#!@# we are ! So @!#$@# funny I'm laughing and grimacing angrily at the same time )
short list of requests:
Give pets CP, Add new pet sets, Give stam sorcs and magicka sorcs a class spam-able ability that is at least as strong (preferably stronger then force pulse), Rework passives and abilities to give us a unique identity now that ours has evaporated this patch, reconsider the 6 second shield thing.
I dont understand why no Mod is saying something like that "we read your feedback and we are working on it"....
It wouldn't be true. I would say:
We read your feedback and we don't care about it.
But keep posting cause your feedback is important. Very important.2 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just returned after about 8 months of being off, and what i see in the next big patch? Everyone gets buffed while sorcs are getting nerfed once again. @Grao has right about the dark exchange. It needs complete rework, maybe it should be offensive skill or... maybe toggled while active it adds some flat spell or weapon damage but consumes additional resources (depending on morph) or make it more DAAARK so it could be dot that drains resources from target and gives 50% of them to caster or... many more... It tooked me 2 min to "invent" this. Please ZOS a bit of creativity...
EDIT
About Bound Armaments: it could summon daedric weapon that adds damage OR extend melee range of skills for few seconds for stam and for mag adds splash damge or smth like that.Edited by Mayrael on May 16, 2016 11:56AMSay no to Toxic Casuals!
I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.
"Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game." - @AlexanderDeLarge0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Still waiting for ZOS to throw a curveball and make Sorcs insanely powerful in the last incremental.
I don't want to be insanely powerful... That will only result on becoming even weaker than we are right now later on because ZoS can't be gentle with the nerf bat, they have to just *** you with it everytime >.>
I just want more of our build viable and competitive. We don't need to be the new OP, we just need good and more options >.<
Oh I know, I don't either. But ZOS can't really do much besides extremes, so every class and spec is either trash or insanely OP. Hence, I await my "buffed shock damage by 500%" patch note.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
paget4444✭✭Damage shield duration reduction is complete garbage. A quick, poorly thought out fix to a very minor problem that created a massive one. Sorcs have been on the lowest end of the DPS spectrum for a while now, and this change just made it far worse. With the combination of mediocre damage, low defense and health (have to be to get even the poor damage sorcs deal with) sorcerers needs these damage shields in PvE to even stand a chance against the high end dungeons and trials. The damage shield stacking in PvE allows sorcs to use magicka and time to actually contribute to group DPS, forcing them to constantly reapply the shields that keep them alive severely reduces their effectiveness in PvE content even more than it already is.
I can only assume that these shield changes were brought on almost entirely due to the crying in PvP about sorcerers stacking 2 shields and not being killed.....and yet I've never had an issue with killing shielded sorces. Without the shields, they are little marshmallows just waiting to be crushed by anyone who gets within melee range, regardless of that players skill or gear, un-shielded sorcerers are just that squishy. Sure, they could reapply these shields every 6 seconds, and then have no time to actually fend off attackers.
Very poor balancing yet again, cant say I'm surprised though, instead of making minor changes to stop the crying or to help this damaged class, you make it worse. No longer interested in facing any sorcerer player in PvP, or playing one, or grouping with one in PvE, just not worth it anymore.4 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Sorcerers have low health because a lot of them choose to have low health.
A lot of them choose to have low hp so that we don't end up even further behind all other classes with dps.R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD12 -
Anhedonie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Surge is awful now. Thanks.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.2 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Sorcerers have low health because a lot of them choose to have low health.
All classes build for minimum health to maximize DPS. Your point is...?Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Sorcerers have low health because a lot of them choose to have low health.
All classes build for minimum health to maximize DPS. Your point is...?
i miss the old stat caps0 -
Natas013✭✭✭PainfulFAFA wrote: »Over 1000 replies here... and 19 pages of stamina sorc replies (on the other one, cuz sorcs needed 2 official channels ... cuz thats just how !@$#!@# we are ! So @!#$@# funny I'm laughing and grimacing angrily at the same time )
short list of requests:
Give pets CP, Add new pet sets, Give stam sorcs and magicka sorcs a class spam-able ability that is at least as strong (preferably stronger then force pulse), Rework passives and abilities to give us a unique identity now that ours has evaporated this patch, reconsider the 6 second shield thing.
You forgot to add "remove crystal blast and kill it with fire" to that short list of requests there
NAh, that ability needs to be more similar to Crystal Fragments and be a Stamina morph.
The ability we need to get rid off is Dark Exchange. No matter how much they buff it it will remain a useless skill as they won't make it instant casting because of perma blocking in PvP. I vote this ability to become our Spammable ability, it is in the right tree too.
I'd also add to the wish list to give Actives to Bound Aegis and Bound Armaments, they gave those for the pets, so they have the scripting to make it work already.
Sad really, it's not like it'd be hard to fix. Keep heal instant, and make stam/mag a fix increase to regen. Fixed increase only because some builds use them to supplement regen on resources they're short on. I use dark deal while tanking on my mag sorc in PvE.
Also I really don't like the idea of a stam frag. Want something quick and easy to replace blast as a stam morph? Make it a stam based player centered aoe like impulse, add a stun or stagger and we're in business.Edited by Natas013 on May 16, 2016 1:26PMRIP Ellania Delome
June 9, 2015-June 14, 2016
A skilled crafter, competent sorcerer, and denizen of the night
Along came the Dark Brotherhood and summarily ended it all0 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just returned after about 8 months of being off, and what i see in the next big patch? Everyone gets buffed while sorcs are getting nerfed once again. @Grao has right about the dark exchange. It needs complete rework, maybe it should be offensive skill or... maybe toggled while active it adds some flat spell or weapon damage but consumes additional resources (depending on morph) or make it more DAAARK so it could be dot that drains resources from target and gives 50% of them to caster or... many more... It tooked me 2 min to "invent" this. Please ZOS a bit of creativity...
EDIT
About Bound Armaments: it could summon daedric weapon that adds damage OR extend melee range of skills for few seconds for stam and for mag adds splash damge or smth like that.
Please, no more toggles!!!!
Little active spammable ability, replacing Force Pulse with it would grants us extra 1% Spell Power + would heal with every attack + we'd have a spell to weave with overload light attacks.
No toggles XD
One morph melee with a increase damage to reward playing a melee range sorcerer in light armor, one morph long range with some sort of % of damage done as magicka returned... In the end it wouldn't even completely do off with the ability's original idea that you are making a dark trade, you are hurting others to gain more resources. That is real dark magic there.0 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Sorcerers have low health because a lot of them choose to have low health.
You think? i thought we had lower health pools because... Miracle.
What you don't understand is to have a DPS that is even remotely close to acceptable a Magicka sorcerer has no choice but to devote all their skill points to Magicka. It is the only thing we can do as our class provides very few increases to spell power, not nearly enough DoTs and very low sustained damage abilities over all. We pretty much only have burst and that is completely useless in PvE.
So yes, you are right, we choose to be squishy, but is it really a choice or is it the corner Zenimax put us against?
By the way, we started dedicating all our points to magicka way before the other Magicka DPS classes started doing the same. They started doing it because they had enough CPs resistance that they could afford to have lower health pools. We started to do it before that because it was our only alternative, even if it meant having to keep our selves shielded.Edited by Grao on May 16, 2016 1:18PM3 -
Lava_Croft✭✭✭✭✭
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I mean in PvP, don't care for PvE.Lava_Croft wrote: »Sorcerers have low health because a lot of them choose to have low health.
All classes build for minimum health to maximize DPS. Your point is...?
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