Would You Buy Another ZOS Game?

JD2013

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iam117

Bananko wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

Who the hell sits there and says they hate ice cream and still eats it?

I've actually seen this occur, both with ice cream and with yogurt-covered raisins.

yeah i see this too, right here on the forums, ahhh darn i guess i got the analogy and applied to to the situation

SoulScream

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

No, to many bugs and to much lag.

Uriel_Nocturne

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

It's been almost a year since I've actively played. I still check the forums ever now and then. I was waiting for the game to improve our just shut down so I could just forget about it. The fact that almost 60% of players here wouldn't even trust a new title from these guys pretty much seals the deal. I had alot invested in this game. Still makes me sad some days.

Just a quick question: You do realize that the number of people on the Forums, whether they approve of the game or not, is only a fraction of a percent of people actually playing the game, right?

Just wondering.

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

No, the only reason i am playing now is cause i am on PS4 and dont have my PC anymore so i have basically no options for MMOs at the moment. But i have only played once now in 10 days due to performance. It is literally unplayable for me right now. Definitely waiting to see more on Conan Exiles or i may buy another PC if Camelot Unchained turns out to be really good.

Final fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn is a good MMO that is also on PS4.

Not sure is Warframe or World of Tanks are on PS4, but those are good MMO's also

Just thought you should know. You're not chained to Tamriel if you don't want to be.

Now, I'm not advocating players leaving the game. I've never understood that argument of "If you don't like it then GTFO!!". How is advocating for a games population to shrink in any way good for a game?

But, just wanted to let it be known that there are options.

Hope499

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

reften wrote: »

So let me get this straight, you're on the forums of a game, making comments...it's been out for two years now, you're still playing.

but yet you hate the company so much that built this game you'll NEVER buy another game from them again.

*eye roll

You no votes aren't being honest.

Honestly, some silly people here.

flguy147ub17_ESO

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

It's been almost a year since I've actively played. I still check the forums ever now and then. I was waiting for the game to improve our just shut down so I could just forget about it. The fact that almost 60% of players here wouldn't even trust a new title from these guys pretty much seals the deal. I had alot invested in this game. Still makes me sad some days.

Just a quick question: You do realize that the number of people on the Forums, whether they approve of the game or not, is only a fraction of a percent of people actually playing the game, right?

Just wondering.

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

No, the only reason i am playing now is cause i am on PS4 and dont have my PC anymore so i have basically no options for MMOs at the moment. But i have only played once now in 10 days due to performance. It is literally unplayable for me right now. Definitely waiting to see more on Conan Exiles or i may buy another PC if Camelot Unchained turns out to be really good.

Final fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn is a good MMO that is also on PS4.

Not sure is Warframe or World of Tanks are on PS4, but those are good MMO's also

Just thought you should know. You're not chained to Tamriel if you don't want to be.

Now, I'm not advocating players leaving the game. I've never understood that argument of "If you don't like it then GTFO!!". How is advocating for a games population to shrink in any way good for a game?

But, just wanted to let it be known that there are options.

Thanks man for the mature response, yeah Final Fantasy games have never appealed to me for whatever reason. And i like Fantasy games the most. I do think more MMOs will be made for PS4 like Chronicles of Elyria is suppose to i think. I am like many other players, this game has huge potential and i did play this in PC beta and PC launch so i know it performed much better back then even with some of the other problems like spamming Bat Swarm. I will keep watching in hope things get better but honestly i see the PVP part of the game going downhill from here out. I hope i am wrong but time will tell.

Epsilon_Echo

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

It's been almost a year since I've actively played. I still check the forums ever now and then. I was waiting for the game to improve our just shut down so I could just forget about it. The fact that almost 60% of players here wouldn't even trust a new title from these guys pretty much seals the deal. I had alot invested in this game. Still makes me sad some days.

Just a quick question: You do realize that the number of people on the Forums, whether they approve of the game or not, is only a fraction of a percent of people actually playing the game, right?

Just wondering.

Yes I am aware. That is how polls work, the survey a fraction of people and use the percentages to try on represent the community as a whole. I would'nt have mentioned the poll itself if it had maybe 60ish people since I don't think that would be a large enough sample size. Its close to 500 now though, and that is pretty large participation for these forums.

I would give more credence to your point if you were to suggest that "X many people only come to the forums do to deal with issues and are thus more likely to be angry". I would give more credence, but still disagree since many people (myself included) are long time users and beta players. Beta players were required to have forum accounts and I would expect that most beta players who still actively play are biased enough to offset the previous point IMO.

Elsonso

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

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Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

Yes I am aware. That is how polls work, the survey a fraction of people and use the percentages to try on represent the community as a whole. I would'nt have mentioned the poll itself if it had maybe 60ish people since I don't think that would be a large enough sample size. Its close to 500 now though, and that is pretty large participation for these forums.

I would give more credence to your point if you were to suggest that "X many people only come to the forums do to deal with issues and are thus more likely to be angry". I would give more credence, but still disagree since many people (myself included) are long time users and beta players. Beta players were required to have forum accounts and I would expect that most beta players who still actively play are biased enough to offset the previous point IMO.

500 people is nothing compared to the people who did not vote. I always take it into consideration that a poll like this can easily trend downwards just due to the imbalance in the forum population compared to the game population. The polls are going to stand a better chance of being representative if they are not about some negative or positive aspect of the game, and particularly if it is not about a "hot item".

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Amount of people voted on the poll 505.

Amount of people who bought the game just in Feb: 100,000.

KhajiitiLizard

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Amount of people voted on the poll 505.

Amount of people who bought the game just in Feb: 100,000.

The amount that then quit later due to bugs, lag, and other broken things not fixed... about 50-75% of that.

Hey I can pull statistics out of my ass too!

Tommy1979AtWar

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Amount of people voted on the poll 505.

Amount of people who bought the game just in Feb: 100,000.

Not sure of the point of your post, are you saying that those 100,000 players are all happy with their purchase or that given 6 months or so 60% of them will be dissatisfied with zos?

Because 60,000 disatisfied customers isn't really what zenimax or its investors are aiming for I'm sure.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Amount of people voted on the poll 505.

Amount of people who bought the game just in Feb: 100,000.

Not sure of the point of your post, are you saying that those 100,000 players are all happy with their purchase or that given 6 months or so 60% of them will be dissatisfied with zos?

Because 60,000 disatisfied customers isn't really what zenimax or its investors are aiming for I'm sure.

I think the point is you cant say anything with such a small sampling considering not even one tenth of one percent of people who even made a forum account bothered to vote and 40% of them voted opposite. Just not very scientific is the point. Also seems like if there were that many dissatisfied customers just since feb we would see some indication of it on the forums as well.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

KhajiitiLizard wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Amount of people voted on the poll 505.

Amount of people who bought the game just in Feb: 100,000.

The amount that then quit later due to bugs, lag, and other broken things not fixed... about 50-75% of that.

Hey I can pull statistics out of my ass too!

I didnt pull anything out of anywhere.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=elder+scrolls+online

Year to date sales figure across all platforms just shy of 200,000 copies. Over 100,000 on PS4 alone.

Greiver

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Based purely on how this game runs and the way Zos interacts with their customers, HELL NO! Ever watched an Eso live, it's a joke. They are clueless to answering questions that really matter. By far the worst I've ever seen I my opinion.

Tommy1979AtWar

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Amount of people voted on the poll 505.

Amount of people who bought the game just in Feb: 100,000.

Not sure of the point of your post, are you saying that those 100,000 players are all happy with their purchase or that given 6 months or so 60% of them will be dissatisfied with zos?

Because 60,000 disatisfied customers isn't really what zenimax or its investors are aiming for I'm sure.

I think the point is you cant say anything with such a small sampling considering not even one tenth of one percent of people who even made a forum account bothered to vote and 40% of them voted opposite. Just not very scientific is the point. Also seems like if there were that many dissatisfied customers just since feb we would see some indication of it on the forums as well.

Market research polls mustn't be very accurate either then... hmm I wonder why corporations both large and small continue to use them with samplings of as little as 100 customers.
Perhaps you know, you seem to be quite the "authority" on every topic in almost every thread so please... enlighten us.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Amount of people voted on the poll 505.

Amount of people who bought the game just in Feb: 100,000.

Not sure of the point of your post, are you saying that those 100,000 players are all happy with their purchase or that given 6 months or so 60% of them will be dissatisfied with zos?

Because 60,000 disatisfied customers isn't really what zenimax or its investors are aiming for I'm sure.

I think the point is you cant say anything with such a small sampling considering not even one tenth of one percent of people who even made a forum account bothered to vote and 40% of them voted opposite. Just not very scientific is the point. Also seems like if there were that many dissatisfied customers just since feb we would see some indication of it on the forums as well.

Market research polls mustn't be very accurate either then... hmm I wonder why corporations both large and small continue to use them with samplings of as little as 100 customers.
Perhaps you know, you seem to be quite the "authority" on every topic in almost every thread so please... enlighten us.

You think that ZOS only listens to this forum and doesnt take feedback from anywhere else? That they woudl look at a poll with so few people responding to it and think hmm wow maybe we ought to think about this? Of course not. You gather feedback from lots of sources.

I bet if I put a poll up here saying ZOS should send us all 1 mil rl us dollars i bet I could get a majority to say yes thats a great idea. Its not. Fact is the customer is not always right. In this case we dont even know for sure based on sucha small sampling what the customer might want.

ralonasan

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

HAH, never again.

Tommy1979AtWar

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Amount of people voted on the poll 505.

Amount of people who bought the game just in Feb: 100,000.

Not sure of the point of your post, are you saying that those 100,000 players are all happy with their purchase or that given 6 months or so 60% of them will be dissatisfied with zos?

Because 60,000 disatisfied customers isn't really what zenimax or its investors are aiming for I'm sure.

I think the point is you cant say anything with such a small sampling considering not even one tenth of one percent of people who even made a forum account bothered to vote and 40% of them voted opposite. Just not very scientific is the point. Also seems like if there were that many dissatisfied customers just since feb we would see some indication of it on the forums as well.

Market research polls mustn't be very accurate either then... hmm I wonder why corporations both large and small continue to use them with samplings of as little as 100 customers.
Perhaps you know, you seem to be quite the "authority" on every topic in almost every thread so please... enlighten us.

You think that ZOS only listens to this forum and doesnt take feedback from anywhere else? That they woudl look at a poll with so few people responding to it and think hmm wow maybe we ought to think about this? Of course not. You gather feedback from lots of sources.

I bet if I put a poll up here saying ZOS should send us all 1 mil rl us dollars i bet I could get a majority to say yes thats a great idea. Its not. Fact is the customer is not always right. In this case we dont even know for sure based on sucha small sampling what the customer might want.

You think that ZOS only listens to this forum and doesnt take feedback from anywhere else?
Kinda my point there but hey go ahead and use it.
That they woudl look at a poll with so few people responding to it and think hmm wow maybe we ought to think about this? Of course not.
Kinda a contradiction in terms there
You gather feedback from lots of sources.
Oh you're back on track again.

Soooo you're saying if 60,000 of that 100,000 all complained it would make a bigger statement... I agree, give me numbers, go search the forum for disgruntled posts from users and be sure to inclust posts regarding bugs, game imbalance etc etc, meet back here in 3 years.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

There hasnt been 60,000 posts total since Jan...

Tommy1979AtWar

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

There hasnt been 60,000 posts total since Jan...

Ohhh so we're only counting from january... there was me thinking the player base existed two years before that, I thought I was giving you an easy errand as it was but wow grasshopper you stumped me with that one... ok lets try this, you go look anyway and let the grown ups talk.

Ok I'll stop messing with you, my point is that zos is most likely watched this thread intently because they'd be foolish not to from a business stand point, they have both investors AND customers to keep happy, they do take note when we stand up to be counted and so many doing so here alone not including sub forums across the net that they will indeed be watching regardless whether you personally think it's a small number or not will warrant a memo on someones desk somewhere at zos who will sit up and take notice... all people are asking them for is to restore a little faith.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

There hasnt been 60,000 posts total since Jan...

Ohhh so we're only counting from january... there was me thinking the player base existed two years before that, I thought I was giving you an easy errand as it was but wow grasshopper you stumped me with that one... ok lets try this, you go look anyway and let the grown ups talk.

Ok I'll stop messing with you, my point is that zos is most likely watched this thread intently because they'd be foolish not to from a business stand point, they have both investors AND customers to keep happy, they do take note when we stand up to be counted and so many doing so here alone not including sub forums across the net that they will indeed be watching regardless whether you personally think it's a small number or not will warrant a memo on someones desk somewhere at zos who will sit up and take notice... all people are asking them for is to restore a little faith.

lol I was quoting sales since January. Or did you think only 200,000 copies of the game have sold total?

Tommy1979AtWar

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

There hasnt been 60,000 posts total since Jan...

Ohhh so we're only counting from january... there was me thinking the player base existed two years before that, I thought I was giving you an easy errand as it was but wow grasshopper you stumped me with that one... ok lets try this, you go look anyway and let the grown ups talk.

Ok I'll stop messing with you, my point is that zos is most likely watched this thread intently because they'd be foolish not to from a business stand point, they have both investors AND customers to keep happy, they do take note when we stand up to be counted and so many doing so here alone not including sub forums across the net that they will indeed be watching regardless whether you personally think it's a small number or not will warrant a memo on someones desk somewhere at zos who will sit up and take notice... all people are asking them for is to restore a little faith.

lol I was quoting sales since January. Or did you think only 200,000 copies of the game have sold total?

lol I'm facepalming you now buddy seriously

notimetocare

If it interested me, sure. Write of a company for problems with their first game? I prefer acting like an adult and not a spoiled brat that complained about getting a 2 yr old car for a christmas gift

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

There hasnt been 60,000 posts total since Jan...

Ohhh so we're only counting from january... there was me thinking the player base existed two years before that, I thought I was giving you an easy errand as it was but wow grasshopper you stumped me with that one... ok lets try this, you go look anyway and let the grown ups talk.

Ok I'll stop messing with you, my point is that zos is most likely watched this thread intently because they'd be foolish not to from a business stand point, they have both investors AND customers to keep happy, they do take note when we stand up to be counted and so many doing so here alone not including sub forums across the net that they will indeed be watching regardless whether you personally think it's a small number or not will warrant a memo on someones desk somewhere at zos who will sit up and take notice... all people are asking them for is to restore a little faith.

lol I was quoting sales since January. Or did you think only 200,000 copies of the game have sold total?

lol I'm facepalming you now buddy seriously

I dont know what you are face palming. Your 60,000 quote was my number from sales since jan. There havent been 60,000 posts total since january. So your argument doesnt hold water. You keep distracting by making personal attacks.

iam117

i think that i should turn on the news and watch political polls, that works well. errrrr.........i think that polling can be usefull and it can also be misleading, the problem with a forum based around a game is most people that enjoy the game likely dont come here just to say "hey i like the game" most people that come here either A: feel they have some knowledge that can benefit the community, B: feel like they need to connect more with the community via another medium, or C: feel like they need to complain and hope their voice is heard. i would venture to guess that C outweighs A+B together. therefore this poll might be a little skewed. most people in the game likely just play and deal with the bugs etc and dont think twice about why the company makes it decisions and how. hell you could put an ingame notification for this poll and i doubt you would see 50% of current population come do it.

JamilaRaj

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I have $100 put up specifically for a fallout mmo collectors edition. please ZOS take my money.

Fallout MMORPG is not going happen. Bethesda fought hard at court with Interplay to stop it from making it.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

JamilaRaj wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I have $100 put up specifically for a fallout mmo collectors edition. please ZOS take my money.

Fallout MMORPG is not going happen. Bethesda fought hard at court with Interplay to stop it from making it.

That law suit was settled years ago. Bethesda can make a fallout mmo if they want.

pjwb16_ESO

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Not after the anti bot patch that ruined pvp

flguy147ub17_ESO

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

notimetocare wrote: »

If it interested me, sure. Write of a company for problems with their first game? I prefer acting like an adult and not a spoiled brat that complained about getting a 2 yr old car for a christmas gift

But any company can communicate better to their clients. Just be straight with us. Say hey we currently are not able to fix PVP lag at the moment or say we have the solution and here is the problem but it will take a while for us to fix. Anything, not this vague stuff like "hey its something we are working on". Give us a straight up answer on where you stand on the issues.

Villious

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Villious wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Villious wrote: »

reften wrote: »

So let me get this straight, you're on the forums of a game, making comments...it's been out for two years now, you're still playing.

but yet you hate the company so much that built this game you'll NEVER buy another game from them again.

*eye roll

Yeah ESO makes me grumble sometimes, but in the end, best PvP experience I've ever had with a game in a genre that I love. You no votes aren't being honest.

Some of us still play for one simple reason....lack of better options. We have played many others, spent our time there, and are done. Some of us are here simply killing time until a better option is released. When that happens, I think you'll see the impact.

This game has amazing potential, but I truly don't think it will ever be completely realized with the current dev team. It seems it's always one step forward, three steps back. When another "successful" MMO is released, we'll see where the rubber meets the road.

I've enjoyed playing ESO, but with a lot of frustration. More than any other MMO, and I started playing MMOs back in March of 1999 when the original Everquest was released, and I've played quite a few of them. So please don't be arrogant enough to presume to say who's not being honest.

So...

RIFT, FFXIV: ARR, LotRO, SWtOR, GW2... none of those are better options than ESO?

How then can ESO be such a disaster that, not only are you still playing it, but it's still "better" than any other MMO on the market right now?

The truthful answer is simple.

ESO is one of the best MMO's on the market right now. However; the game has made changes that are not specifically the changes that you might have made, so you're posting out of misplaced frustration.

I'm 50 years old. I started playing MMO's 17 years ago in March of 1999 when the original Everquest was released. Even before then, I played Ultima Online for almost a year, so I guess that gives me almost 18 years of MMOing. How long have you been playing MMO's?

Rift - played it
Dark Age of Camelot - Played it
FFXIV - Dont like the franchise
ARR - Not sure what that is.
LotRO - Played it, but really didnt like the LOTR atmosphere
SWTOR - Played it
GW2 - Played it, was disappointed with the expansion
Everquest - played it for 6 years
WoW - Played it
TERA - Played it
BDO - Not interested
ArchAge - Messed with it a little, and my buddies and I are actually contemplating going to that now.

What else you got?

My friends and I play MMO's together. We've been playing ESO for about 5 months, and are already tired of the bugs, laggyness of the game in general, devs unable to fix bugs, inability to fix broken mechanics for years, making only male armor wireframes now because its easier to do, devs pretty much patching and balancing once per quarter or less, devs using primary focus to crank out DLCs and crown store items for sale, the list goes on and on and on. I will say that ESO has the best quest lines that I've ever played in MMO's, so kudos to them for that.

You're the very definition of white knight. No matter what happens, you'll defend it with your dying breath, and tell other players how wrong they are and how they feel, when you have not a clue, and are extremely arrogant to even presume saying such things. You keep saying that I think ESO is the best MMO on the market right now, but I've said no such thing. We've played it heavy for 5 months, and are already getting ready to move on for various reasons stated above. We played GW2 for 2 years. WoW for 6 years. The lesser titles for much less time. If another good AAA MMO had been released sooner, we'd be gone now. We unsubbed from ESO two days ago. No more money for them.

You're arrogant enough to lecture me that my (our) unhappiness is "misplaced frustration". Keep on fighting the good fight Sir Knight. They definitely need players like you.

Damn, you're a true OG (original gamer). It always makes me smile seeing the elders enjoying themselves with games. Especially MMO's and my goodness you have quite the background/resume. Much positivity and respect to you, sir. It's men like you, which make me not feel bad for being as heavy into gaming as I am. I salute you.

Don't give up on Gaming.

It's an expensive hobby, but one that offers so much in entertainment... If you love it as much as I have (and those who've been doing it for over 30 years like myself and @Villious have), then it is something that you'll enjoy for decades.

Never stop Gaming.

Only thing I can add to that is.....AMEN!