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Would You Buy Another ZOS Game?

  • Kas
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    Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.
    yes, if the title itself convinces me. i find their practices not great (obvious decline in support after b2p, communication only through community manageres not not those actually responsible for balance, pretty poor processes and cost aversion to invest in some redundancy resulting in frequent and especially very long downtimes, etc) but all-in-all i find their practice acceptable for a non p2win title. personnally, i'd happily play and pay 10-25€ per month - as long as there are no competing players that invest thousands. further, i am VERY VERY glad that I am fully competetive for everything except early grand overlord titles as a working player. sure, i was only every emp if a campaign restarted on a friday where my girlfriend wasn't there for the weekend (happened 3 times since beta ^^) but it's a pleasure compared to other games where you can only aim for the top if you either invest all of your life or lots of money.
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  • Surragard
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    Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.
    I think they have learned a lot from this process regarding weighing the opinions of the community, game balancing, and marketing. Have there been some mistakes? Absolutely, but I think ZoS has admitted to that as well. I'm excited to see what their next project will be.
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  • Dubhliam
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    When a necro about customer satisfaction is still relative...
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  • altemriel
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    Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.
    *** the bugs, definitely yes!!
  • Elsonso
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    Surragard wrote: »
    I think they have learned a lot from this process regarding weighing the opinions of the community, game balancing, and marketing. Have there been some mistakes?

    Would be nice if they would apply what they have learned so that we could benefit from it.

    ESO Plus: No
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  • Wifeaggro13
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, would you be interested in another ZOS game in the future? If yes, please explain why. If no, please explain why.

    It depends, with a different game director and and clear outline of what the game was intended to be. And a very strong possibility it would be a sub base and clear development towards MMO'S. Then yes
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    I am here because I like the elder scrolls.

    Lets set monitization -aside- for a moment. This game was made for direct x 9, and older hardware. What has subsequently happened, as the more they have upgraded the engine, and tried to add content and improvements to performance, the server matinence, the performance, the latency, it's all gotten -worse-. How ZOS has handled this title has been deteriorating, and it shows.

    I dont trust this company to be able to do it right a second time.
  • BlackguardBob
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    ESO has changed beyond recognition in under three years. It just isn't the game I bought on launch day because all the rules have been broken and there seems to be a free-for-all anything goes attitude about how to play this game once T1 kicks in.

    It has become a L50 player game and a race to get the best gear and the storyline (PvE) gets in the way of all that.

    Zos are moving the goal posts yet again to try to get people more involved in ESO by altering it so drastically and at such an alarming pace that it is having the reverse effect that is intended imo.
  • Elsonso
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

    Zos are moving the goal posts yet again to try to get people more involved in ESO by altering it so drastically and at such an alarming pace that it is having the reverse effect that is intended imo.

    So, you are saying that One Tamriel is Elder Scrolls Online: New Game Experience?
    ESO Plus: No
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  • snakester320
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    nope sorry im in the mind set once bitten twice shy .. while i do like the game!!! overall as a mmo its pretty bad bugs issues that take so long to fix cash shop and with these gamble boxes coming.. there heading in the wrong direction and like a freight train not giveing a f.ck who gets in there way !! All in the name of making more money to support there game that they them selves have neglected.. SH.TTY way to run a company and doesnt deserve a second chance!!
  • dbrand001
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    Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.
    I am more curious as to how many of you who said no actually still play a zos game regularly. If they are so bad why are you still playing? They are pretty much damned if they do and damned if they dont. If they dont fix things right away people complain, and if they take servers down to fix things people complain. You cant please everyone all the time and more and more in the gaming community there has been an increase in numbers of people who just complain to complain. There are 100s of other games out there why waste your time on one you are not happy with? If I dont like a game or get bored i move on and find something I like.
  • snakester320
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    dbrand001 wrote: »
    I am more curious as to how many of you who said no actually still play a zos game regularly. If they are so bad why are you still playing? They are pretty much damned if they do and damned if they dont. If they dont fix things right away people complain, and if they take servers down to fix things people complain. You cant please everyone all the time and more and more in the gaming community there has been an increase in numbers of people who just complain to complain. There are 100s of other games out there why waste your time on one you are not happy with? If I dont like a game or get bored i move on and find something I like.

    i can guess that quite a few .. then mabye theres a reason BORDOM .( thats why ive been playing this last month). like theres been hardly anything console wise released in the last few months all the big games watch dogs 2 final fantasy 15 and so on are going to be dropping over the next few months and lets not start on the big titles starting 2017.. FFXIV ARR has a new patch in a week!! heaps of new content!! destiny drops new dlc next week!! watch ESO players disapear to other things!!
  • xboxone1Q
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    No because of nightblades that's why. :/
  • Arnorien16
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    Stupid question. No one who has worries about expenditure should buy anything without research into the actual material.
    Edited by Arnorien16 on September 15, 2016 1:07AM
  • Elsonso
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    dbrand001 wrote: »
    I am more curious as to how many of you who said no actually still play a zos game regularly. If they are so bad why are you still playing? They are pretty much damned if they do and damned if they dont. If they dont fix things right away people complain, and if they take servers down to fix things people complain. You cant please everyone all the time and more and more in the gaming community there has been an increase in numbers of people who just complain to complain. There are 100s of other games out there why waste your time on one you are not happy with? If I dont like a game or get bored i move on and find something I like.

    I not only play regularly, I play pretty much daily.

    First, let me say that the developers are very good, and ESO reflects the talent that they have put into it. From the art, sound, music, writing, and story, it is pretty good. It is not the best MMO, but it is definitely better than most.

    When I look at what ZOS does as a studio and what they produced in ESO, it is hard for me to imagine that they are the same company. ZOS seems to be the "MMO on a Budget" company.

    Bottom line is this: I do not think that ZOS is capable of making a game like ESO anymore. That means that if they do make another game (and we are talking Fallout here), I expect it will be worse than ESO.

    Edit:
    I bought the game because it is Elder Scrolls, and I like the game.

    I am not a fan of the studio and I would not buy the game for that reason. They have not proven that they can build, and maintain, a game with a long term commitment. I know they are working on lag, and other bugs, but they behave like a single player game studio that is wrapping up things and cranking out a few DLC before moving on to another project.

    If they can demonstrate otherwise, I might change my mind.

    The main thing that has changed since I wrote that is that (1) I no longer think they are working on lag, and (2) they have revealed a new level of desperation with Crown Crates that reinforces my idea that they intend to reduce effort on ESO over the next several months.
    Edited by Elsonso on September 15, 2016 1:45AM
    ESO Plus: No
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  • Wifeaggro13
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    I bought the game because it is Elder Scrolls, and I like the game.

    I am not a fan of the studio and I would not buy the game for that reason. They have not proven that they can build, and maintain, a game with a long term commitment. I know they are working on lag, and other bugs, but they behave like a single player game studio that is wrapping up things and cranking out a few DLC before moving on to another project.

    If they can demonstrate otherwise, I might change my mind.

    You hit the nail on the head right there. They are not demonstrating that they intend to develop a MMO that has the intention of longevity. they are pumping out Solo DLC's that are easy to make and cheap to develop. all indications this game is sailing off into retirement a little over two years after release.
  • NobleNerd
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    dbrand001 wrote: »
    I am more curious as to how many of you who said no actually still play a zos game regularly. If they are so bad why are you still playing? They are pretty much damned if they do and damned if they dont. If they dont fix things right away people complain, and if they take servers down to fix things people complain. You cant please everyone all the time and more and more in the gaming community there has been an increase in numbers of people who just complain to complain. There are 100s of other games out there why waste your time on one you are not happy with? If I dont like a game or get bored i move on and find something I like.

    Well, seeing that ZOS was created for ESO only and I am not playing ESO due to many issues I am not playing the only game they are responsible for.
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  • jao0199
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    No.
    Why?
    Because they are "afraid" to fix the ESO critical perfomance issues and it ruins my gameplay sometimes.
    I should have 140 ping and i have 200+.
    This game is awesome, but in the wrong hands its ugly to see.
  • Elsonso
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    NobleNerd wrote: »
    Well, seeing that ZOS was created for ESO only and I am not playing ESO due to many issues I am not playing the only game they are responsible for.

    I am pretty sure that ZOS is not simply the "Elder Scrolls Online Division"... There will be other games. Maybe not as soon as if ESO had been a raging success, but they may well get there, eventually. I expect Fallout Online.
    ESO Plus: No
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  • Apherius
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    No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
    Nop :

    - if wrobel is there ---> no
    - if it's a MMO --> sorry , their servers are bad .
    Edited by Apherius on September 16, 2016 11:42AM
  • GDOFWR420
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    Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.
    Yea but i would need great incentive.
  • Kendaric
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    It would depend on what game it is... a Falloutout MMORPG maybe (depends on the combat system), ESO II almost certainly if they change the classes or get rid of classes completely.
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    • FearlessOne_2014
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      Turelus wrote: »
      At this time no I wouldn't and I would advise other other avoid the game.

      There could be some redeeming factors depending what the title was and what members of the team had a direct role in it, however I don't feel ZOS has done a good job in regards to cheating/exploiting or working with the PvP community to push a fair and balanced game.

      I my case it depends. If ZOS next product is another MMO. Then no ZOS has proving with this one they just don't have the know how, or the dedication. To make a awesome MMO.

      If ZOS's next product is a fully modifiable TES VI. Then yes because at least there I can mod, and cover the developer's short comings. And turn a sub par game into a legendary game of my liking.

      But for the most part. Other then Star Citizen which I backed in 2014. Still waiting for that to come out. I don't think I'll buy into another MMO, ZOS or anyone else. Anytime in the near future. The landscape for MMOs have changed. They used to be all about the legacy, and entertaining their communities. Now it's common practice for MMO companies just allow sales to ride on hype, or name. Then release something super sub par. Don't bother fixing the bugs. Then start cannibalizing their play base and communities. By turning their gaming into short term money farms, with us the play base as the animals.

      Now if CCP was to make another MMO I might buy their 2nd MMO. CCP is the only company I have seen. That actually want to make their MMO their legacy. They have not only committed in the darkest of nights. But have pulled the community and themselves through the hardest of times. They even continuously communicate with it's community. CCP and it's player base are more like family. CCP has it's money on the prize, and has not squirrel off for a small shiny. Out of all of the MMOs and games I've played Eve Online has the record for me 9 years. I think 2nd place is GW2 by a mere 2 nearly 3 years. Can't even mention a 3rd place because all of the other ones I end up playing off and on taking many breaks at a time. But if 3rd place was based on money spent from me. I'd say ESO.But that's only because I was suckered in because of being a TES fanboy. And I really wanted to see this game work. But nothing ever works with a development team, with only short term goals.
    • KICHZY
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      Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.
      • The art team is fantastic and do an amazing job.
      • The people who design the world, dungeons, objects and models do an amazing job.
      • The community managers and moderators do an amazing job.
      • The people who write the quests and lore do an amazing job (Lawrence Schick is awesome).
      • The people who design the fashion do an amazing job.
      • The people who create the skills/animation do an amazing job.
      • The people who created the music did an amazing job.

      I've never seen such a talented team, It's a shame a selected few people at ZOS give the whole studio a bad name...But to answer your question, Yes I'd buy another game if ZOS was to make one.
      Edited by KICHZY on September 16, 2016 1:12PM
    • subtlezeroub17_ESO
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      Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.
      wayfarerx wrote: »
      While there's plenty to complain about when it comes to ESO, it's not enough for me to swear off the studio entirely. Managing settlers in Fallout 4 sucks hard, but does that mean that I'll never buy another Bethesda title? Of course not.

      When I think about how much fun I've had over the last two years in ESO then it seems like an easy decision to drop $60 on the next title from ZOS and at least try it out.

      Agreed. Sounds rational to me lol
    • JD2013
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      Fallout: Online? Heck yeah I would.

      If it was a new IP then I'd wait to see if that IP interested me.
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    • Elsonso
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      No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
      Kendaric wrote: »
      It would depend on what game it is... a Falloutout MMORPG maybe (depends on the combat system), ESO II almost certainly if they change the classes or get rid of classes completely.

      I can only imagine a ZOS Fallout MMO to be an unmitigated disaster. People probably have nightmares just thinking about such things. Even outside of the studio. There would have to be so many changes to make it work as an MMO that ZOS would have to assume a leadership role and build support in the community for the changes they make.

      They will be best off making MMO #2 something that no one has ever heard of before.

      ZOS also needs to mature as a Studio before I think they can handle another game.

      ESO Plus: No
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    • GDOFWR420
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      Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.
      For me to come on board for an eso 2 i would need somthing as a reward or character carryover. You know For all my time devoted to eso 1.
    • 85flyingbrick_ESO
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      No, I would not buy another ZOS title.
      I wouldn't. I've been here since beta and feel a real attachment to my 2 main guilds. I even help run 1 of them. But in the last 6 months I've seen so much pure toxicity from other players. That and everything becoming easy-mode and zos doing nothing actually constructive about the CE people in pvp I've reached the end of my time. This was the same sort of thing that became rampant in DAOC before it finally crashed at burned; at least that took 6 years and not 2.
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