Would You Buy Another ZOS Game?

WanderingJarlPuncher

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

The main question I asks my self everyday for the past 2 weeks is. Will I buy another MMO period. The past 3 or 4 MMO I've played over the past 4 years have left me feeling down and out. The lack of choice for the genre is another turn off for me buying another MMO. As in Dev teams now don't have to make quality MMOs these days, they just have to release something with a little of something others don't have. And sadly people swarm all over it like brainless hive-minds. I more less looking into the "free aim third person view MOBA" genre atm.

I'm a PvPer that hate to PvE but will force himself to do it, only if it'll make me happy. But the standard the PvE has become in MMOs to force players to PvE just to be decent at PvP if not overpowered. I think I'm done with killing the same set of NPC 10000 times over, done it for 15 plus years now, it's getting old. I just want to kill other players in a Massive World PvP or Sandbox PvP that don't require farming NPCs forever.

I'm also a old school person who don't beat around the bush and speak my mind. So that also puts me at odds with this new generation of gamers, where no matter how much they suck it's impolite to correct them. I'm not nearly as hardcore as I used to be about a year ago, so that puts me at odds with the players from that group.

Honestly I just don't think their is a place for me in modern day MMOs. And I'm fine with that. Just means I'll have to find some thing else to bring enjoyment to my life. CU and Star Citizens will more then likely be the last MMOs I will ever play.

Will I buy another MMO period. The past 3 or 4 MMO I've played over the past 4 years have left me feeling down and out.

you shoudl. get something that still has that authentic feel of real mmo. not those polished turd crap fest that even 8 bit game didnt have. im evening considering going back to everquest because at elast we can do things that are...whats the word those snot nosed spoiled obnoxious kids hate..? OH right! H A R D!!!!! and pvp in eq is still somewhat alive.

i bought morrowind for the sake of old time, when game werent Barney the dragon mode and werent wrinkled with broken things in every codelines.
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I'm also a old school person who don't beat around the bush and speak my mind. So that also puts me at odds with this new generation of gamers, where no matter how much they suck it's impolite to correct them.

then keep speaking your mind for gods sake, the christian god, !!! that "easyly hurted feeling because words hurt" AKA butthurt comes with the current mentality of the usa and its social standings where kids wanna show that their ignorance is the truth. so please ! do feel free to speak your mind and show them where they are wrong. if they cant stand being corrected they should'nt do things that need to be learned in the first place.

i am an old school person, east commonlands bazar and 12 hour corpse runs in plane of fear. and the new generation of mmo is lacking that authentic crunchyness that real gaming feels like.

Honestly I just don't think their is a place for me in modern day MMOs.

it's not that you are out of place, its just that the gaming system needs to feed their babies with the right type of baby food before realising that they fed them the wrong food by killing online gaming completly

BenLocoDete

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

WanderingJarlPuncher wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

The main question I asks my self everyday for the past 2 weeks is. Will I buy another MMO period. The past 3 or 4 MMO I've played over the past 4 years have left me feeling down and out. The lack of choice for the genre is another turn off for me buying another MMO. As in Dev teams now don't have to make quality MMOs these days, they just have to release something with a little of something others don't have. And sadly people swarm all over it like brainless hive-minds. I more less looking into the "free aim third person view MOBA" genre atm.

I'm a PvPer that hate to PvE but will force himself to do it, only if it'll make me happy. But the standard the PvE has become in MMOs to force players to PvE just to be decent at PvP if not overpowered. I think I'm done with killing the same set of NPC 10000 times over, done it for 15 plus years now, it's getting old. I just want to kill other players in a Massive World PvP or Sandbox PvP that don't require farming NPCs forever.

I'm also a old school person who don't beat around the bush and speak my mind. So that also puts me at odds with this new generation of gamers, where no matter how much they suck it's impolite to correct them. I'm not nearly as hardcore as I used to be about a year ago, so that puts me at odds with the players from that group.

Honestly I just don't think their is a place for me in modern day MMOs. And I'm fine with that. Just means I'll have to find some thing else to bring enjoyment to my life. CU and Star Citizens will more then likely be the last MMOs I will ever play.

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it's not that you are out of place, its just that the gaming system needs to feed their babies with the right type of baby food before realising that they fed them the wrong food by killing online gaming completly

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

I voted no, not because I'm an Eso hater but the way ZoS handles things is unprofessional, no transparency, inability to handle hackers and exploiters and they seem happy to ignore the tons of issues/bugs in game but still release boring dlc that creates more issues and bugs.

They should feel lucky that there's not much competition out there atm.

Lysette

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO wrote: »

I voted no, not because I'm an Eso hater but the way ZoS handles things is unprofessional, no transparency, inability to handle hackers and exploiters and they seem happy to ignore the tons of issues/bugs in game but still release boring dlc that creates more issues and bugs.

They should feel lucky that there's not much competition out there atm.

Those 2 last DLCs are not boring content, but iconic guilds in the TES lore - they had to be in the game to be a real TES game. And there will be more TES content in future, if you expect something else, you are not likely to get that.

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Lysette wrote: »

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO wrote: »

I voted no, not because I'm an Eso hater but the way ZoS handles things is unprofessional, no transparency, inability to handle hackers and exploiters and they seem happy to ignore the tons of issues/bugs in game but still release boring dlc that creates more issues and bugs.

They should feel lucky that there's not much competition out there atm.

Those 2 last DLCs are not boring content, but iconic guilds in the TES lore - they had to be in the game to be a real TES game. And there will be more TES content in future, if you expect something else, you are not likely to get that.

You honestly didn't find them boring or even disappointing? Even some of the biggest fans have commented on the lack of content that comes with recent DLC's. Either way my point still stands that they are releasing new content over fixing current issues, not only that but performance seems at least to me to get worse after each dlc and more bugs are added to the list.

Grao

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Lysette wrote: »

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO wrote: »

I voted no, not because I'm an Eso hater but the way ZoS handles things is unprofessional, no transparency, inability to handle hackers and exploiters and they seem happy to ignore the tons of issues/bugs in game but still release boring dlc that creates more issues and bugs.

They should feel lucky that there's not much competition out there atm.

Those 2 last DLCs are not boring content, but iconic guilds in the TES lore - they had to be in the game to be a real TES game. And there will be more TES content in future, if you expect something else, you are not likely to get that.

Those two guilds should have been in the game from the start, but Zenimax ran out of money during the development stage, why they released the game when they did and with so many bugs. That aside though, even you must notice content is dwindling with every new DLC right? First you got 2 dungeons and a new PvP area, second you got a huge area to explore with a solo raid and 2 public dungeons, third you got a new guild and a new raid, forth DLC you got a new guild and... You got a new guild and now, the 5th DLC you get 2 dungeons and you don't even get any real work towards balancing the game...

Elsonso

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Lysette wrote: »

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO wrote: »

I voted no, not because I'm an Eso hater but the way ZoS handles things is unprofessional, no transparency, inability to handle hackers and exploiters and they seem happy to ignore the tons of issues/bugs in game but still release boring dlc that creates more issues and bugs.

They should feel lucky that there's not much competition out there atm.

Those 2 last DLCs are not boring content, but iconic guilds in the TES lore - they had to be in the game to be a real TES game. And there will be more TES content in future, if you expect something else, you are not likely to get that.

The last two DCS are iconic guilds from the TES lore, and they should add Morag Tong and other organizations to them in a future DLC. That does not mean they are not "boring content". I like the Thieves Guild, and have not had the time to delve deeply into Gold Coast, but I can say that after the main quest in Thieves Guild is done, the content can get boring pretty quickly. The Thieves Guild main quest content is just a few hours and even pokey @lordrichter was able to complete it already.

• The Guild Jobs are OK if you treat them as something to do while you are doing other things and not a "job". To me, this is the least boring of the repeatable quests because they can just be done at any convenient time.
• Heists are new "trials" for solo players. Like the multiplayer Trials, new ones will be necessary as time progresses or they get stale. They can be repeated until mastery, though.
• Reacquisitions are boring after the first time and a great tie-in to Dark Brotherhood would be to assassinate the person who keeps misplacing those things in hard to get at places. If ZOS want to do this type of content, it needs to be Tamriel-wide and a lot more of them.

Dark Brotherhood seems to be just Thieves Guild with a global find and replace for the names. Contracts are the same basic idea as guild jobs. Heists are now Sacraments, and have the same problem. Fortunately, there is no need to reclaim lost assassinations.

Grao wrote: »

Those two guilds should have been in the game from the start, but Zenimax ran out of money during the development stage, why they released the game when they did and with so many bugs.

Fundamentally, I feel that this is inaccurate. I think that they always had the idea that they would do housing, character customization, and the Guilds after the initial rollout. ZOS has said frequently that they feel that an MMO is never finished. Even with a required subscription, they need to have new content to attract and retain players. My thought is that they did not want a "completed game" at release.

I think that what has happened is that something always ended up being more important than the Guilds, Housing, etc, and so those things kept getting pushed back. Console likely took more developer resources than expected. The removal of Veteran Ranks and the addition of Champion Ranks was also a higher priority. With Tamriel Unlimited, they had to make several changes in how they design and package content. Before Tamriel Unlimited, they could release smaller system-heavy content updates, but now they need to make sure they roll out activity content, even if it is just two Dungeons.

When you pile this on top of the standard shedding-of-developers that happens shortly after launch as they transition from "pre-launch game development" to "ongoing game maintenance", you end up with some pretty long development times for some things. The goal of "ongoing game maintenance" is to establish a stable amount of studio resources to maintain the game after launch, and this means that development output is throttled at this level. It is more important to be able to set and maintain a steady pace than it is to deliver everything in the backlog.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO

This topic is a bit misleading. Do you consider the regular TES games as ZOS games (Morrowind,Oblivion,Skyrim)? Because even though they are developed by another studio "Bethesda", they are still considered ZOS games. Because Bethesda is owned by Zenimax.

jpatek0501ub17_ESO

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

This game is no different than crap you buy on cell phones. Crown store, lol.

Elsonso

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

This topic is a bit misleading. Do you consider the regular TES games as ZOS games (Morrowind,Oblivion,Skyrim)? Because even though they are developed by another studio "Bethesda", they are still considered ZOS games. Because Bethesda is owned by Zenimax.

Standard confusion. The name "ZeniMax" can refer to either ZeniMax Online Studios, the developer of ESO, or ZeniMax Media, the parent of both Bethesda Softworks and ZOS. Note that the trademark is "ZeniMax", notwithstanding the fact that they often spell it "zenimax" in logos.

Edit: The Elder Scrolls, ESO, Bethesda, Bethesda Softworks and related logos are registered trademarks or trademarks of ZeniMax Media Inc. ZeniMax and its logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of ZeniMax Media Inc.

Clarkieson

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

The whole experience of ZOS has been a complete comedy

ESO has great potential, but sadly ZOS do not have the knowledge or will to fullfil it.

The game is barely on life support, it is so broken and buggy that even microsoft would have done a better job.

Ouch

As long as there are "casual" ESO+ subscribers and "casual" crown store purchases the game itself dosent matter to ZOS as there are no hardcore gamers who play it.

Unfortunately for ZOS that is just not the case.

They just have no idea what they are doing. Soon enough the game will be so broken it just wont work and they will be forced to abamdon it.

I hope there are many lawsuits, so in future products like this will be made and they will work for fear of repercussions.

Never in my life have i come across such an inept and pathetic company. ZOS really take failure to new height, dwarfing even that of the english national football team.

It is absolutely disgusting how an organisation can treat its customers like ZOS do.

Never again will i buy a game from this tradgedy of comedy that ZOS have become.

And i thought bungie were bad.

Clarkieson

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

driosketch wrote: »

I'm just here for Elder Scrolls, and I'd probably buy the next game even if EA was publishing.

Yeah EA are pretty awful these days. Unless it involves battlefield.

Nightingale1176

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

They wont get another dollar from me. It's so sad the direction is going. I hope if Bethesda decides to make another ES MMO game they pick another company. Zenimax started out on the right foot the first year wasn't all that bad till Craglorn, but then tripped, fell, and had the stupid knocked right in them.

Elsonso

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Nightingale1176 wrote: »

I hope if Bethesda decides to make another ES MMO game they pick another company.

Will not happen. There will be only one Elder Scrolls MMO. At best, what we will hear about is an expansion reboot for ESO in the next few months. I do not think that Elder Scrolls 6 will have any online cooperative play.

Bottom line is that I think that ZeniMax Media will invest in ZOS for any future MMO games.

GamerzElite

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Definitely not,
Some bugs are here from game launch (After 1st lighting patch) and I feel they busy in making fancy things for crown store rather than bug fixing.

EDIT: Might be I buy single player but for next MMO.......... Hell NO

ThatAlaskanDude

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Honestly I bought ESO because well it's a part of elder scrolls, one of my favorite game franchise. I support the game, but I don't support the company.

Galbrant

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Hell no. Crown Store is anti consumer as hell, plethora of bugs and technical issues. Now the Barber shop is a Crown Store exclusive. Seriously I take a it as a personal F you GIVE ME MORE MONEY! If god forbid ZoS do make a new game I will be so biased against it the game will failed even if it turns out good.

outsideworld76

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

ZOS doesn't seem to be ably to improve the lag. It's unplayable.

Ihatenightblades

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

I would buy it forsure but I DEFINITELY wont be investing money like i did with ESO.

As for bethesda i wish they partner up with somebody else becuayse bethesda has the BEST game concepts. ESO is the best concept for a game i can think of. Its the performance that drives us away

Daemons_Bane

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Autolycus

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

I love ESO, and I love my people. I do not love ZOS. On a good day, their customer service is abhorrent. On a bad day, it's completely nonexistent. That alone is enough for me to lose complete faith in a company. But I remain in this game because I love TES and I have good friends and good memories here. The developer isn't everything, I suppose.

Ourorboros wrote: »

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjmjqlOPd6A

Lucius_Aelius

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

I bought this because it was Elder Scrolls and the PvP looked amazing (and it is great fun), but as it stands now I would not be inclined to buy another game by Zenimax, I'm still not sure where this game is going and it could go either way. If this game goes completely to *** then that will be that, but if things get better then it's not out of the question for me to buy another one of their games down the line if it's something I think I'd be interested in. The fact is that no game is, has been or ever will be perfect, you have to take the bad with the good and there's at least as much that's good to say about this game as there is bad, I just hope for the good to outweigh the bad moving foward, if not then, well... That's that, and I would not be trusting ZOS with any more of my money should it come to that.

Thevampirenight

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

I might buy a fallout online mmo if zenimax releases it. I imagine one of these days they will have a fallout mmo.

Inhuman003

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

yes I will buy another game from ZoS but I buy what I like not what I see.

QuebraRegra

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO wrote: »

I voted no, not because I'm an Eso hater but the way ZoS handles things is unprofessional, no transparency, inability to handle hackers and exploiters and they seem happy to ignore the tons of issues/bugs in game but still release boring dlc that creates more issues and bugs.

They should feel lucky that there's not much competition out there atm.

Those 2 last DLCs are not boring content, but iconic guilds in the TES lore - they had to be in the game to be a real TES game. And there will be more TES content in future, if you expect something else, you are not likely to get that.

You honestly didn't find them boring or even disappointing? Even some of the biggest fans have commented on the lack of content that comes with recent DLC's. Either way my point still stands that they are releasing new content over fixing current issues, not only that but performance seems at least to me to get worse after each dlc and more bugs are added to the list.

Story wise I was disappointed with TG... I expected something epic like the OBLIVION GRAY FOX/NOCTURNAL COWL, but instead got a pretty dry story line.

elvenmad

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

The actual game is great, no issues there at all, but the game management, company PR, and maintenance/bug fixing leave an awful lot to be desired, in fact prob the worst I'v ever seen in 20 + years of MMO's

Elsonso

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

No change.

QuebraRegra

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

I'm ashamed to say if they used the same engine and did a D&D 5e game, they'd have my money.

Tandor

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

I have no problems with the game and would happily buy another ZOS game.

I have more of a problem with necro'd threads!

crazykrypto

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

if I had known from the start, I think i would actually have invested in blizzard and not ZoS. They have let me down more than once and treated Elder Scrolls with complete lack of respect.