How do you feel about the B2P announcement

SlayerSyrena

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I'm pretty upset by this decision ... The ESO community has been pretty awesome ... I'm worried this might change that.

I'm not leaving though. I love ESO too much for that so I'll give this a chance.

Leeric

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Ya I'm probably done, making all characters that are VR 1 the same points, this new crap they pretty much took advantage of their entire hardcore user base, I honestly hope this game fails now

Orchish

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I'm very disappointed. I have been here since BETA and feel like i have paid for a beta test only to have it thrown back in my face. I honestly want to cancel my sub right now and be done with this game, but that is my initial reaction after hearing something very disappointing. I am going to hold out and see what it turns into first, as soon as i hit the pay walls and any single pay to win element i am gone. Such a shame, i loved this game.

melodeath

Like - may draw in more population due to lack of monthly fees

i guess that for me it just means that people who quit the game can comme back whenever they want and do whatever they want when they feel like it.

including casuals, wich is a really great thing because with their limited amount of spare time they can stil login without it affecting their precious wallet.
wich would hopefully bring my old guildmates back.

people who dont have a sub just stay in the state of the game that it is atm while subsribers who want to get bigger,meaner and tougher will still obliterate everything that tries to mess with him.

and if you dont like a sub and just want the dlc without vanity items, than you just pay for the dlc alone.

its a win/win for everyone.
so its a big + for me.

Volto

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Leeric wrote: »

Ya I'm probably done, making all characters that are VR 1 the same points, this new crap they pretty much took advantage of their entire hardcore user base, I honestly hope this game fails now

Loved the game but yeah. If they are stupid enough to go F2P I hope they crash and burn.

Korah_Eaglecry

Ahdora wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

I'm not voting just yet as I want to see how it turns out. If it's a mix of Guild Wars (B2P) and Rift (F2P+P2P option) which it looks like it'll be then I'll be happy with it. No sense in trying to speculate right now just how it'll turn out, and I'm paid up through the change.

I'm not paid up through the change, and I'm struggling mighty hard right now to find a reason to pay my sub fee in a few weeks.

I reacted first with utter shock, then anger. I'm trying to chill and look at it differently. I want to give it a shot, but there are a few things mentioned in their article of how the Plus Premium membership will work that I don't like at all, and can see going very badly.

Not sure if this is going to be a road I want to travel with ZOS, and it's kind of heartbreaking, because I love this game and have been excited for the coming systems.

Unless they Launch the B2P Model with a Cash Shop full of different slightly P2W items. Youll be fine, and so will F2Pers for the first 3-6 months. After that the Cash Shop will give us an indication of the direction of the game. It typically takes that long for the Companies to start filling the Cash Shop with a variety of items that dont revolve around Services.

Mettaricana

Like - may be positive like LoL's cash shop, with only vanity items

Orchish wrote: »

I'm very disappointed. I have been here since BETA and feel like i have paid for a beta test only to have it thrown back in my face. I honestly want to cancel my sub right now and be done with this game, but that is my initial reaction after hearing something very disappointing. I am going to hold out and see what it turns into first, as soon as i hit the pay walls and any single pay to win element i am gone. Such a shame, i loved this game.

honestly i think they should atleast give use pay to players atleast our sub time worth of crowns from when we started to now... since all the beta testing we did and promises broken

briandivisionb16_ESO

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#CosmeticOnlyOrBye

HippieTheGreat

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I'm worried and disappointed. This is why I stopped playing SWTOR ahead of my friends. I liked the sub only option, it was a nice way to keep the community somewhat nice. I wish they had come up with a better option than this.

I'm going to try it for 3 months, after it goes live. If I can still play with friends and people I like without getting pissed off I'll keep going. If I can't, I'm out. I'll join the rest of people waiting on EQN.

a_good_kidub17_ESO

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Worried. I've never played a game that was sub based and changed their payment model. Only other MMO I've played is WoW.

Chose dislike because now Im going to have to listen to snide remarks from certain friends and communities about how right they were saying this game will be "f2p in six months" or w/e.

Its not completely free to play yet, and ESO has been around longer than six months. But I just know those few butthead friends of mine aren't going to let me live it down. And that i was stupid for supporting this game. I'd like to enjoy playing wow with them, but as it is currently, its un-enjoyable and boring. And they don't seem to want to change the game in a way I find appealing.

But a business doesn't set up a shop to not sell stuff. Selling sub par items that don't compare to those made by players (and paying real money for it) doesn't make sense to me. They want you to buy their product. Products that make you better in some way than others.

Pretty sure they'll start selling other stuff that breaks the game for those who aren't members.

When that happens, then I'll take a hike. As much as I don't want to.

Naivefanboi

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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

staticstorm wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

I don't like these changes as the game's current model was/is perfectly fine.

Unfortunately, the consoles dictated these changes. You can't make PC players pay a sub fee and then either make console players pay no sub fees or make them pay two sub fees (XBox Live/PS Plus and the ESO sub).

The future of this game is certainly bleak. I'm already on the hook for sub fees that will take me into May so I will experience almost two months of the new model. The cash shop with its potions and soul gems portends storms on the horizons as time invested in the game is thrown out the window in favor of anyone willing to pay ZOS to be an instant winner.

rubbish FF14 makes you pay a sub on PS4 and if you play any other game online u need PS plus.

Unfortunately for us Microsoft would not allow the use of xbox live without a gold membership. Sony tried to work with ZOS but Microsoft in the end forced this change.

sounds like sony failed to stick to their guns. but *** more money for them

Razzak

Dislike - fears of cash shop roadblocks on content

Volto wrote: »

Leeric wrote: »

Ya I'm probably done, making all characters that are VR 1 the same points, this new crap they pretty much took advantage of their entire hardcore user base, I honestly hope this game fails now

Loved the game but yeah. If they are stupid enough to go F2P I hope they crash and burn.

Financially, they will be on better grounds. Just wait when they forget everything that was said in latest live and start offering items that will give you more than just cosmetic advantage.
Or the crap about those items not being better than crafted ones. I do believe that, but they will simply change crafting requirements in such a way it will not produce crafted potions to the extent it does now. So, many will simply buy them. Or drastically reduce dropped soul gems, so you do have to buy them or grind like mad, which is not a requirement now, as they are quite easily obtained.

What will crash and burn is PC community and quality of the game. Cash shop, though. That will thrive.

Naivefanboi

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theoak1ey wrote: »

When the game first launched always said it would be F2P/B2P within a year. MMO's nowadays cant maintain a sub based game, it's just not the norm any more, they had to hit the ground running and ESO didn't. I'll stick around as I enjoy the game (I'm a pve guy), plus I was always going to jump to console when it released as that's where my friends are going to play on.

My only reservation is from a content aspect. I'll continue my sub fee as the rewards are too OP compared to not subbing but I hope they keep up with updates although I imagine we will go to maybe every 3/4 months between updates once consoles launch hits

Lupernicus wrote: »

My first post on the forums and likely my last. just want to say i played Conan until it went f2p then lost interest. played swtor until f2p then lost interest. I've been a fan of elderscrolls since daggerfall. like some other folks have said, i will be looking forward to the next single player rpg for elderscrolls.

bye Felicia!

lmao yea go hope right back in line to give the property money again xD. this is the problem the game industry. you forgive and just go right back to spend more money...fail

ThyIronFist

Like - may be positive like LoL's cash shop, with only vanity items

Lol @ the people unsubbing. Bye.

I'll just wait it out and see how it goes, I don't mind a cash shop so long as they stay with vanity/cosmetic items. Second of all, F2P / B2P does not equal a bad community.

LotRO is F2P and has one of the best gaming communities ever, WoW is subscription based and is pretty terrible.

I do feel a bit angry due to the fact that I've played beta, and been playing since early access - so basically I've been paid beta testing a console game. It just feels terrible, but then again, I still enjoy the game so I'm not unsubbing.

To all the people that are unsubbing, can I have your gold?

Naivefanboi

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Mithe wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Mithe wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

rendolpheb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm having a *** day today.

My car is stuck at garage for repair.

My favorite game become B2P and I'm totally disgusted with the incoming DLC consolish that I just read in the FAQ.

I know there is much worst then this in life, but still a *** day ...

I don't see how dropping the subscription will improve the future content of this game, the futur fix on class & bug.

I'm afraid that customer service will go down pretty fast too.

I'll wait for my final judgement on this game until I see what is really the '' Tamriel Unlimited '', but there is a part of me that know that I'm lying to myself and get enough experience from sub to B2P or F2P model that never ended well ...

Consolelish...yeah we can admit it is the console's fault for a large majority of this, the console held Skyrim back with it's low end hardware and now the console is helping ruin ESO in a different manner, zenimax is spending all their time creating the console version when they could of been fixing the PC version and now we here it is going to be Buy 2 Play or more commonly known as Free 2 Play.

I am 99% positive they went with a b2p model simply so they could sell it on the xbox one. So ya consoles stuck it to us. Also why no compensation for people like me who have paid every month? Shouldnt we get the 1500 crowns or whatever for every month we have paid a sub since launch? Yet we get nothing but a screw you from zenimax for being loyal customers.

From what the FAQ said, we are getting backdated crowns as if it had existed since launch

Where in the FAQ did it say that? I must have missed it.

(Part of the "How do I get Crowns" sub heading:

2) As a current subscriber: If you are an active subscriber when The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited launches, you will receive 500 crowns for having a game account, plus 100 crowns for each 30-day period you have been an active subscriber.


Took me a while to find it, as i couldn't believe they would give us nothing for the time we had already paid for

im good they can keep their garbage. never found really rare motiffs in game not gonna go buy them now. what a trash system

lavosslayer

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I always prefer the feel of a p2p game versus f2p/b2p due to the maturity level of most of the subscribers as well as the assured quality and frequency of content. The cash shops always seem to derail the focus of devs due to the instant cash flow it provides. Earning cool things always gets marginalized by similar items being placed in the store due to whining instant gratification crowd. The only thing this will improve is numbers of people playing at any given time.

skillastat

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Bye ESO

The_Doctor_ESO

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Crowns - you mean just like Wizards 101 casino for children, where people will be begging you for crowns and gifts, where folks with little impulse control will be suckered into spending their hard earned money on virtual fluff while the availability of good items through hard work in the game become less available.
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As someone who has loved and defended this game since Beta, I am very disappointed. CFO's strip all the silver lining off of the clouds and leave the world gray and depressing. Thanks for ruining my day.

m12d12_ESO

Dislike - fears of cash shops giving unfair advantages

This is just "Pay to be the BEST". If u have the funds, you will have the advantage. Those of u think nothing is really changing - It is a "major" change. You will have to pay for future content, future extras - maybe not as much yet. Those monthly crown points will never be enough - everything worth anything will cost, now or later, much more than u will get with ur month subscription.
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- HOW IT STARTS...
- Starts with either paying for the premium membership ( the same cost as this membership for now) or buy DLC content - Then there will come other " Xtras " down the line that are outside of your membership fees or be very expensive for purchase in the Crown store. The money gouging will begin - slowly at first then later it will become very evident. Right of th

Aidantwab16_ESO

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Well at least all of the horrible children out there still have to pay a little bit.

I guess now that we are officially f2p/b2p I may as well be the first to welcome our new santa hat/bunny costume wearing, ogre riding overlords?

Berbecca

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They weren't able to fix bugs while being subscription based....I think everybody knows what will happen when they loose the constant cash flow.

Beerbill

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Just gonna leave this here...

Lied

Dislike - other

Wish I could pick neutral. Without an indifferent option I'm siding with dislike because those reasons seem more plausible than the positive ones. Otherwise, I'm not really worried about it too much.

Naivefanboi

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iliev.rumenb16_ESO wrote: »

TLDR - I finally get to play this game and I hope that the cash shop don't destroy the community.

So Im on of "those" people who beta tested the game and then decided it is not worth it. I can uderstand monthly sub, I can understand having a cash shop and I can understad to charge people some price for your product - but all three at the same time? It is still ridiculous and this is why going b2p is not a surprise to anyone. Since the game is just a generic MMO with first person view and nothing special about it.

Now that it will be b2p I am actually intrigued and I am considering buying before the transformation.

So instead of having all kinds of ways to get your money this game dropps one of them in favor for more people to get involved. This might be a good thing for the game, or it might be the worst thing ever happened.

The game I resently play a lot is Assassins Creed Unity (don't judge me) it is B2P and it has a cash shop with some ridiculous looking outfits and probably some unfair P2W attributes that I don't like to discuss here. The point is that I never even go to the cash shop because I play with my friends and I don't really care how the other assassins look like and that they have more sleeping darts and can buy them cheap by the dozen with cash. This breaks their gameplay by entering the other dimeniton and skipping a big part of the game - the dealing with not having those things.

I am going to get into TESO next month on salary and probably after that and I really hope all the best for the game and for the community and I'll do my best to bring fresh blood and I can assure you that people like me (30 years old and above) will play the game and probably never go into that shop (except to get an occational dog)

people like you are why im deleting my account.
why would you buy a "generic mmo, with nothing special about it"?
go play perfect games like destiny rofl

RaZaddha

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Fenris wrote: »

Please choose which one is the closest to your feelings. Curiosity here. Personally, I like the way the game was and am fearful of any changes B2P might bring. P2P always guarantees that anyone playing is at the same advantage as the rest. In P2P, time commitment, skill, and in-game choices are the only factors separating players.

I am curious as to what everyone else thinks, because there are other sides to everything.

*** hell, I thought this game was gonna be different and all but if they go the same way as gw2 and only make new "content" (as in, *** new story every 2 weeks that nobody gives a *** while ignoring the rest of the playerbase) for the cash shop this game will be the failure of the decade.

Stonesthrow

Like - other

Would like an indifferent option, but there isn't one.

I like the game.

Going to keep playing it.

Have way heavier $%^& to worry about in my life than this.

Peace.

thelordoffelines

*opens crown shop

"signet of the warlock 1000crowns"

can't wait....

pmn100b16_ESO

So basically the game was a flop, you didn't get enough subscribers to support the subscriber model, so you've gone to backup plan #1, extract more money with cash shop and paid dlc. All this development time for 1.6, you've in fact been devoting it to making a cash shop. GG

#FAIL

rotiferuk

Like - may draw in more population due to lack of monthly fees

What a surprise, a thread full of people complaining. It's not often you see that here......<sarcasm off>.

Anyway, nothing has changed for me. I still like the game and am going to continue playing / subscribing.

Also, I am happy to accept donations from anyone who is leaving, good quality VR gear or gold please. I play on both servers, just message me, thank you in advance.

Imryll

Where's the mixed/unsure option? I don't really like the "obligated to play" feeling I get when subscribing to an MMO. On the other hand, I do worry about how the community will change. Perhaps if they truly manage to avoid "pay to win," the worst segments of the free-to-play community will decide that ESO isn't for them.