PTS Patch Notes v1.4.2

demonlkojipub19_ESO

If they won't have the set function just because of an optional path a player took, then they should change the 5-set bonus completely to something that will function the same for everyone.

The developer comment should have came during pts of 1.3.

khele23eb17_ESO

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Monsters

• The following monsters are now immune to bleed damage:
  • Air Atronachs
  • Bone Flayers summoned by Necromancers
  • Stone Atronachs

And which mobs are immune to magic based dots?

demonlkojipub19_ESO

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Monsters

• The following monsters are now immune to bleed damage:
  • Air Atronachs
  • Bone Flayers summoned by Necromancers
  • Stone Atronachs

And which mobs are immune to magic based dots?

None. More hate to physical DPS.

rophez_ESO

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Monsters

• The following monsters are now immune to bleed damage:
  • Air Atronachs
  • Bone Flayers summoned by Necromancers
  • Stone Atronachs

And which mobs are immune to magic based dots?

I always wondered why my fire dots work on fire atronochs, etc...

timidobserver

In order to appease those that are in tears, I would be cool with them making the night's silence bonus scale with gear quality. Yellow gear quality would be have the same bonus as dark stalker.

Xsorus

Pixysticks wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Comaetilico wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

K signed on to test out Weapon Enchants Status Effects

They are proccing now, but i've discovered a new bug.

Arcane Fighter (2 hander Passive) isn't proccing status effects 100% of the time like its suppose to.

based on my understanding arcane fighter don't make them proc 100% of the time... but increase the proc rate by 100% "of the actual proc rate"... so it mean that if base proc rate for burning is (assumption here) 15% chance on fire damage... with arcane fighter it will change to 30% chance... that is a 100% increase in proc rate ^^

but that is how I understand it... it may be as you intended and not working at all ^^'... a bit hard to test out... it would require quite the extensive testing ^^'

That could possibly be how it works.

It's not possibly how it works, it's how it has always worked.

You're probably right on that. I don't know what the base chance to proc status effects is.

GTech_1

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Pixysticks wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Comaetilico wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

K signed on to test out Weapon Enchants Status Effects

They are proccing now, but i've discovered a new bug.

Arcane Fighter (2 hander Passive) isn't proccing status effects 100% of the time like its suppose to.

based on my understanding arcane fighter don't make them proc 100% of the time... but increase the proc rate by 100% "of the actual proc rate"... so it mean that if base proc rate for burning is (assumption here) 15% chance on fire damage... with arcane fighter it will change to 30% chance... that is a 100% increase in proc rate ^^

but that is how I understand it... it may be as you intended and not working at all ^^'... a bit hard to test out... it would require quite the extensive testing ^^'

That could possibly be how it works.

It's not possibly how it works, it's how it has always worked.

You're probably right on that. I don't know what the base chance to proc status effects is.

Yeah, because, for *some* reason, we are "not allowed" to know this information before we make our "informed" skill and gear choices.

Tooltips should *always* provide clear information on what the skill actually does.

LonePirate

What does it take to get this bug fixed which was first reported a couple of weeks ago and is a regression from the current live server?

• The E key will no longer activate the first option when talking to NPCs or accepting quests from the Alliance War boards.

Malveria

Nerfing streak again when you're ignoring the other broken abilities and classes.
Listening to nbs who qq about not being able to get away 100% of the time when they just can't learn their class.
You're making sorcerers unplayable. This game is a joke.

curlyqloub14_ESO

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Vampire

• Fixed an issue where you could stack the Dark Stalker passive with the Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment item sets to move at mount speed. This is no longer possible—you get the bonus from either Dark Stalker or Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment.

Lame lame lame, why do the "it's not fair" crybabies always get their way? Quit screwing with stuff that doesn't need to be fixed, and start fixing [snip] that really matters.

But I would like some clarification on this: "you get the bonus from either Dark Stalker or Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment." OK well, if I have more than one of those, which bonus do I get? It would be nice too if the Dark Stalker passive tooltip gave an actual % of how much it increases speed. Just saying "increases movement speed" is pretty vague. If I need to choose which bonus I want to use, I'd like to at least have a number to compare to the set bonuses.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Samadhi

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Vampire

• Fixed an issue where you could stack the Dark Stalker passive with the Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment item sets to move at mount speed. This is no longer possible—you get the bonus from either Dark Stalker or Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment.

Lame lame lame, why do the "it's not fair" crybabies always get their way? Quit screwing with stuff that doesn't need to be fixed, and start fixing [snip] that really matters.

But I would like some clarification on this: "you get the bonus from either Dark Stalker or Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment." OK well, if I have more than one of those, which bonus do I get? It would be nice too if the Dark Stalker passive tooltip gave an actual % of how much it increases speed. Just saying "increases movement speed" is pretty vague. If I need to choose which bonus I want to use, I'd like to at least have a number to compare to the set bonuses.

If the bonuses otherwise remain the same as they are currently on live the values are
Dark Stalker and Shadow Dancer's Raiment: Remove Sneak speed penalty; Sneak at 100% of regular running speed.
Night's Silence: Provides 36% increase to Sneak speed; Sneak at 96% of regular running speed.

Vampire has its own other passives that are available with Dark Stalker.
Shadow Dancer's Raiment provides max Magicka, Spell Damage, and Stamina Regen stats.
Night's Silence provides Weapon Crit, max Stamina and Stamina Regen stats.

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version.]

Rizcarn

Have to wonder if Concealed Weapon will be effected with the dark stalker/shadow dance/night's silence changes.

MorHawk

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

I expect my materials back from the night silence set I have.

And, you have to go through and put an end to all bonus and skill stacking. Shields no longer stack, heals from different people no longer stack, damage traits no longer stack, cost reductions no longer stack, etc.

Totally unfair change the appease the crybabies.

Nope, they're ignoring the crybabies all right.

Zed

Rizcarn wrote: »

Have to wonder if Concealed Weapon will be effected with the dark stalker/shadow dance/night's silence changes.

Nothing has been mentioned so it should stack but it wouldn't surprise me if the passive effect of Concealed Weapon no longer worked with any of the listed sets or skills.

Rylana

Malveria wrote: »

Nerfing streak again when you're ignoring the other broken abilities and classes.
Listening to nbs who qq about not being able to get away 100% of the time when they just can't learn their class.
You're making sorcerers unplayable. This game is a joke.

Because abusing an ability that ignored the aoe cap unlike everything else was obviously just being a pro player amirite?

Cody

all I do is look for an indication that NB cloaks have been fixed. if I Don't see this, I just stop doing any actual reading and fast scroll to the bottom, and just keep an eye out for key words
You guys need to fix NB cloak. Many of us NBs are running out of patience. You can call me a crybaby all you want, but im going to keep saying this in every single patch note(s) until cloak is fixed.

If you guys respond super quick to a set that only INCREASES MOVEMENT SPEED all because some people were mad they could not do it, then we also expect you guys to fix actual problems just as fast.

Now, out of what I actually read some things were cool.
I see you guys reduced score values for hedarous. Maybe I was wrong the last 3 months, and you DO care about the PvP.... I hope I was wrong the last 3 months.

Cody

Sasky wrote: »

polar wrote: »

"Fixing" the vamp/Night's Silence stacking is a really poor decision. That combo creates a specific build for a specific play style and it comes with significant costs. It also has little/no impact for other players. So, they will please very few, but anger many...I truly hope ZOS rethinks this.

For ganking in the field, sure it's at a slight cost. However, the issue primarily emerges when you use it to travel long distances (ie between keeps).

Compared to a horse, you have:
- Almost no chance of being spotted vs. being spotted at view distance
- Knowledge of any enemies you do run across (detection warning from eye)
- No stun from being attacked (knocked off horse) unless a specific stun attack was used
- No speed penalty, except to maybe the fastest speed horses

In return, you have to
- Be a vampire, but a good chunk of the AvA population is, so it's no hardship
- Use a 5-piece set, which you can swap out when you get there (or before ganking someone if using a gear swap addon)

It's hardly a surprise. There was a developer comment a week or two ago about this change. Other large speed boosts over travel distances (mist form speed, bolt escape) were nerfed.

BE was nerfed because it could be spammed endlessly. you go in combat, cast some abilities, get on low health, BE out, heal, BE back in, over and over and over and over again. it had nothing to do with the travel speed. maybe if you were carrying a scroll. now idk about mist form, as I don't se it enough to know what it actually does besides making a vampire really hard to kill. hehe.

Pantherin

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DEUTSCHE PTS-PATCHNOTIZEN v1.4.2
Notes de version PTS 1.4.2

[*] Vampire

• Fixed an issue where you could stack the Dark Stalker passive with the Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment item sets to move at mount speed. This is no longer possible—you get the bonus from either Dark Stalker or Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment.

Seriously?

While you are at it, lets remove the speed increase from Concealed Weapon!

Better yet, remove the whole NB Class...as they are practically useless compared to other classes and abilities...I challenge anyone out there to post a Youtube video of a DW Vampire NB wrecking multiple folks at the same time like a DK, TP or SC

Fact: Speed and Stealth are the only things keeping us in the PvP fight...it sure isn't our damage output or survive-ability.

Question: How on Earth is that speed game breaking or unfair? However, I could list multiple examples of other classes and abilities that are unfair...do you watch the Youtube videos out there?

Fact: NBs are scouts, they are supposed to be able to move quickly and quietly across the battlefield! That is their implied role in battle tactics...

Fact: Fire damage hurts a Vampire; and every class uses fire and it is in AoE, Roots and Stuns... A DW Vampire Night Blade has to get within melee range to hit an enemy...and does not have the survive-ability of a DK, TP, or SC...now you take away the one thing they had; escape...not nearly as game breaking as that bolt ability...where you can literally bolt out of range of a spell or bow attack...

Fact: We spent the hours, upon hours, upon hours grinding traits and crafting to make that crafted armor set...for nothing.

Fact: We had to harvest, save for, wait or buy all the items needed to craft those sets (Legendary Materials)...removing the viability of wearing that set is not fair...

Fact: You need to focus on other classes and abilities before you completely break the will of the NB community. Leave the NB alone.

What happen to the comment we will not take away from as much as add to other classes to bring them in line with other classes? (or words to that effect).

Fact: The armor bonus do not work in combat, yet all other armor set bonuses do work in combat - did we complain, no.

Fact: Speed of the Vampire NB should not be your focus...there are many, many, many other issues you have yet to address or even mention...from beta to launch...that are still not fixed!!

Well I guess I will retire my NB...and turn her into a crafter mule...

Before I spend hours and hours grinding another class to max level, can you please tell me what class you intend to leave alone...

Seriously frustrating!

I know and understand why people are canceling their subscriptions!

Gilvoth

Pantherin wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DEUTSCHE PTS-PATCHNOTIZEN v1.4.2
Notes de version PTS 1.4.2

[*] Vampire

• Fixed an issue where you could stack the Dark Stalker passive with the Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment item sets to move at mount speed. This is no longer possible—you get the bonus from either Dark Stalker or Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment.

Seriously?

While you are at it, lets remove the speed increase from Concealed Weapon!

Better yet, remove the whole NB Class...as they are practically useless compared to other classes and abilities...I challenge anyone out there to post a Youtube video of a DW Vampire NB wrecking multiple folks at the same time like a DK, TP or SC

Fact: Speed and Stealth are they only things keeping us in the PvP fight...it sure isn't our damage output or survive-ability.

Question: How on Earth is that speed game breaking or unfair? However, I could list multiple examples of other classes and abilities that are unfair...do you watch the Youtube videos out there?

Fact: NBs are scouts, they are supposed to be able to move quickly and quietly across the battlefield! That is their implied role in battle tactics...

Fact: Fire damage hurts a Vampire; and every class uses fire and it is in AoE, Roots and Stuns... A DW Vampire Night Blade has to get within melee range to hit an enemy...and does not have the survive-ability of a DK, TP, or SC...now you take away the one thing they had; escape...not nearly as game breaking as that bolt ability...where you can literally bolt out of range of a spell or bow attack...

Fact: We spent the hours, upon hours, upon hours grinding traits and crafting to make that crafted armor set...for nothing.

Fact: We had to harvest, save for, wait or buy all the items needed to craft those sets (Legendary Materials)...removing the viability of wearing that set is not fair...

Fact: You need to focus on other classes and abilities before you completely break the will of the NB community. Leave the NB alone.

What happen to the comment we will not take away from as much as add to other classes to bring them in line with other classes? (or words to that effect).

Fact: The armor bonus do not work in combat, yet all other armor set bonuses do work in combat - did we complain, no.

Fact: Speed of the Vampire NB should not be your focus...there are many, many, many other issues you have yet to address or even mention...from beta to launch...that are still not fixed!!

Well I guess I will retire my NB...and turn her into a crafter mule...

Before I spend hours and hours grinding another class to max level, can you please tell me what class you intend to leave alone...

Seriously frustrating!

I know and understand why people are canceling their subscriptions!

awesome post and complete truth, what you wrote is exactly how i feel.and so did all the 104 members i had in my guild. i just left a message on my guild website to let any and all who still read it that i must close the ventrillo service i was paying for because all of them have unsubscribed from elderscrolls online and have been gone now for over 60 days.
i will not abandon eso nor the guild i created. but, i am quite speechless about what must be happening en that developers office to actually have the strength to do this to us nightblades, we are the weakest class in eso. ill be honest, that took guts to do what they just did. a true shame.

Khivas_Carrick

Weapon enchantments can now proc elemental damage status effects, such as burning or chilled.

Then what the *** is the point of Arcane Fighter for Two Handed? Is this going to be chance based for non-2H weapons? Or is melee just getting gypped again?

Darkonflare15

• Why is it that every patch there is a patch that fixes a skill from Sorcerer,Dk, and Templar?
• Why is it when we finally get a fix for a night blade skill I never know what it is until they supposedly fix it?
• Why have they not fix shadow cloak and some skills like veiled strike?
  Everybody and they Grandma can break us out of stealth. Veiled strike is suppose to be instant be there is delay in the skill. Plus the skill does not always does damage.
• Why do we not have a effective defensive skill?
• Why is attack speed not noticeable?
• Why can't haste work with bows?
• Why did siphoning strikes and its morph get nerf from 4% to 3% but still has the weapon and spell power debuff?
• Why is the Agony skill and Aspect of Terror skill target very few targets for too much magic?
• Why is the shadow image ability will not let me teleport to it?
• Why is the shadow image ability allow me to only teleport to it once?
• Why does night blade only have two synergy skills and they are ultimates and why our cheap party heals really does not heal a lot?
• Why is most of night blade abilities are single target when most enemies in the game come in pairs of two and more?
• What is point of of night blades if some of our class only skills do not work?
• Why do night blade skills have debuffs in their skills like, shades, siphoning strikes, and mark target?
• Why is all enemies in the game doing more bow damage than me?
• Why is when a enemy just has one weapon they can use dual wield abilities but when I want to do it I can't?
• Why I cannot just play with one weapon why do I have to have a shield?
• Why change so much but cause everybody to have to adapt? Why can you ease into these situations Like the provisioning revamp and the clothing revamp?
• Why do you want to ease class balances but revamp other game mechanics really fast?
• Why is the bow heavy so slow?
• Why are moves so situational in this game but I never have the right skills at the right time?
• What is love? because this game is hurting me.
• Why is the alchemy skill medical use never work properly?
• Why have you not fix the warrior stone yet it has been three weeks?
• Why don't you hot fix errors why wait until a big update just to have more errors down the line?
• Why don't you let us know why your not doing these things? It would make me feel better.
• Why do I have to change the rarity of enchant potion speed for vet potions to work and why have this not been explain in detail yet?
• Why are you nerfing other classes but not fixing their broken skills?
• When are going to fix the group finder?
• What is the difference between Dodge and Miss?
• Why is the roll too short?
  When I roll back I still get hit by attacks?
• Why do we not have an agility attribute?
• What are you afraid of night blades becoming if you buff their skills?
• Where is the hope of fixes for our broken combat mechanics?
  

I have been patiently waiting for somethings to change but it seems like I would never get answers. So I felt like getting somethings off my chest while waiting for things to give me hope.

Wahee

Samadhi wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Another patch.

Still no notes on fixing the issue with Nightblade's DoTs breaking their own Invisibility.
Even though it was acknowledged as unintended and we were told a fix is incoming back in May.

Oh well, maybe next patch will have something worthwhile in it.

Just for clarification about this:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Incoming Fixes & Improvements
...
Outstanding Known Issues
Patch 1.1.2 fixed many outstanding Nightblade issues, but below are some that we are either actively investigating, working on fixes for now, or have recently fixed and will push in a future patch. Please note this list does not reflect every reported Nightblade issue we are currently investigating.

General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.
...

Posted May 22nd. Still waiting for a fix.

This. It is quite literally mind blowing that a core mechanic of a class has been bugged for months as a "known issue" and we are all in the dark about a possible fix or timeline.

Xanthro

1. Fixed an issue where you could stack the Dark Stalker passive with the Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment item sets to move at mount speed. This is no longer possible—you get the bonus from either Dark Stalker or Night’s Silence or Shadow Dancer’s Raiment.

Sorry, but if this goes live, I am done.
Seriously, it's the last straw. You have people abusing the hell out of Mistform to receive the 75% damage reduction and still attack and cast spells.
Many many people asked about the sneak speed before spending all those mats to create the set, because it is fast in stealth, out of combat.
For those complaining that people can just sneak by now, as opposed to ride by, that is meaningless because you could just have one person sneak by and set up a forward camp and then everyone resurrects there, just as every keep has a FC now.
To obtain those speeds, it means giving up an important 5 piece set, and pretty much locks you into medium armor because of the reduction in sneak cost. To use it for any distance, you need medium armor.
Any NPC sees you, anytime you are not completely hidden, the set bonus fails.
Once I'm hidden, unless you get very lucky you wouldn't ever catch me anyway. All you destroying the set for vampires does is show you have no understanding of the game. Anyone giving it half a second of thought could see you'd get very fast stealth in the game using the set. This didn't escape you, you just gave into whiners.
All this, while I cast Dark Cloak and had it fail and not give me a second moment of invisibility about 80 times today, causing a number of deaths to MOBS no less.
If you can't fix it so our own DOTS don't break it, you literally have no business screwing us over because of non-combat speed.
I like the game, but this is just too much. It shows such as lack of foresight in planning that why bother?

killedbyping

Another day, another patch notes, still no buffs to NightBlades.

killedbyping

Another day, another patch notes, still no buffs to NightBlades.

Thejollygreenone

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Added items to the Morag Tong item set. You can now use all types of weapons with it.

My god ZoS, you just made me the happiest bosmer in the world.
No joke, completely renewed my interest in the game with a simple set change. Poison damage based trial bow build, here I come.

One more time... THANK YOU SO MUCH, MY CONTENTEDNESS CANT BE PUT INTO WORDS!

Arsenic_Touch

Why don't you just delete night's silence, ZoS? you've changed it so many times now, even said that the current mechanic is intended and flip flopped due to whining. What's the point to it now that it's rendered worthless for anyone that is a vampire? Did you break concealed weapon with night's silence or concealed weapon with dark stalker too?

You know what's funny, I was doing cyrodiil with some guildies last night doing dolmens. I had night's silence on my vampire NB, I was unable to keep up with the max speed horses that were sprinting, only able to keep up with the horses that were going at regular speed and since horses have infinite sprint, I was still left behind with it. Every mob that looked at me wrong would reduce the speed even if they didn't spot me, every time I jumped I would lose speed.

It's clear at this point that they have no idea what they're doing with sets in this game.

You better nerf rapid maneuver next if you want to be consistent with your whole Abraham Kaplan's way of doing things.

R0M2K

ESO has 3.5 classes.

zazamalek

Sasky wrote: »

- Almost no chance of being spotted vs. being spotted at view distance
- Knowledge of any enemies you do run across (detection warning from eye)
- No stun from being attacked (knocked off horse) unless a specific stun attack was used
- No speed penalty, except to maybe the fastest speed horses

To add to that:

- With <Dark Cloak>, a near-guarantee to escape from average players (and the Sorc blink was nerfed for the exact same reason)

You know what works better than exploiting? Not exploiting. I look forward to every patch because every patch directly and indirectly buffs my characters. If you exploit and your stuff gets nerfed, you made the choice to exploit. ZOS are simply fixing bugs, nobody forced you to abuse those bugs - you took a risk, it didn't work out, move on.

Arsenic_Touch

zazamalek wrote: »

- With <Dark Cloak>, a near-guarantee to escape from average players (and the Sorc blink was nerfed for the exact same reason)

Wow, I wasn't aware that dark cloak let you leave combat... owait.
Calling dark cloak a near guarantee to escape is kind of hilarious especially in conjunction to this discussion.