I absolutely love this game, but my guilds conclusion which I agree with entirely is that someone at Zenimax lacks total common sense.
Why on earth did they decide to do a major patch at the end of the week, common sense says do it at the beginning while you have all your staff in the office for the rest of the week to fix any urgent issues.
I dont knoe about the rest of the planet, but the UK has a long weekend including Monday, not a goid time to find loads of game breaking issues.
We have planned a huge pvp day starting tomorrow at 10am until midnight, we expect to be drunk by the end of it, and we expect our guild to have great fun.
This had been planned for this Saturday for a couple of weeks. Now some cant play for very long due to mem leaks, others cant take stuff ouf of the bank, and Zenimax have said they wil, be applying a patch tomortow, which could mean our pvp session many of us were looking forwards to, will be canceled or severely intrupted.
When the update was announced on ign on Wednesday, our guild leader saic "thats our weeksnd ruined then"
We understand things go wrong, but common sense says you dont do this at the end of the week, and if you do it on one server and major issues arise, you hold off doing it on the othet untilyou have a fix.
I adore this game as do most of my guild (guild plays various mmos), I have never seen such anger about this game from my guild as I have seen tonight.
Very true, and I'm in the same boat. So therein lies the real question: what's going on within Zenimax? The forum makes Zenimax appear to be nothing more than a thousand monkeys clacking away on a thousand keyboards.
Maybe people did get fired because of the 1.1.2 patch. Maybe they're bringing some new, top devs in to help sort the problems out. I don't know, nor for that matter, do any us, the inner workings of Zenimax. But it doesn't help when players just assume that EVERYONE at Zenimax is a complete moron.
I agree ESO will get better, but accepting a step back when you are paying for a service is not a good.
Well, my friend, welcome to the world of reality. Give me an example of a service - any industry, anywhere in the world, that is not wrought with periodic problems and setbacks.
I pay for high speed internet. Sometimes the internet goes down (issue or maintenance). I pay for cable TV - sometimes that goes out, too.
We pay for lots of things that don't go swimmingly each and every time. That's life, dude!
Everyone knows the bots and gold farmers are a big issue, just like any MMO. Historically speaking, there's no way to ever be 100% spam/bot/farmer free.
kirnmalidus wrote: »Because we don't hate ESO, we love it. We hate how Zenimax's mismanagement of updates is driving it into the ground.
kirnmalidus wrote: »steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »
Don't be ridiculous. They do pay attention to feedback and bugs. They do pay attention to trends on the forums. They are listening to the players as best they can. But they can't address every single issue in one fix.
At the moment i think a lot of us would settle for them not breaking more stuff with each 'fix'.
I know nothing about game development. I do web and app development, and the same thing happens in my world. You take a complex system - something breaks - you fix it, but ended up creating another problem unintentionally. I agree it is frustrating, but it's only temporary.
I lead a team that builds websites as well. If my team pushed an update that broke this much stuff on a client's website I would be discussing firing the people responsible for testing the updates and I would expect the client to fire us as their agency for breaking their site.
Yeah because your website is just as complicated as this game and it's servers and infrastructure....nice comparison bud.
OP, clearly with your first post and your reply to mine you are ok with a substandard service. I am not, if my internet goes down I ring the service provider and they either tell me they are working on it, or they will get working on it but at least I know it's being fixed. My TV service provider (DSTV in this country) don't seem to just 'go out' but if they did I'd not be happy at that either.
Where I work, and have done for the last 12 years we offer a 99.95% uptime, and if we do not provide we actively give our customers one WHOLE month free, this does not include planned downtime, but any emergency down time, or crash we end up paying heavily for after 0.05% of a months time so we make sure they don't happen.
Stop accepting sub standard service and expect what you pay for.
alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »
So please mister hired PR representative.... lie more...
Most developers in 2000 had to make their own engine, they could not just buy one... i could go on but you get my point.
Oh! Here's another super sleuth who believes that us "fanboys" must be hired PR people.
Congrats, 007! YOU WIN THE PRIZE!
kirnmalidus wrote: »Because we don't hate ESO, we love it. We hate how Zenimax's mismanagement of updates is driving it into the ground.
And I totally get that. Provide good feedback, report bugs, report spammers - that's how everyone can help.
Incessantly bashing Zenimax, threatening to cancel, etc. - that doesn't help.
Kalann_Pander wrote: »People might take you more seriously if you weren't such a jerk when people disagree with you.
Kalann_Pander wrote: »People might take you more seriously if you weren't such a jerk when people disagree with you.
You're right, genius. I'm a jerk. Because when Zenimax hired me to infiltrate the ESO forums, they clearly instructed me to act like a jerk so I wouldn't expose my true nature as a Zenimax employee.
Kalann_Pander wrote: »kirnmalidus wrote: »Because we don't hate ESO, we love it. We hate how Zenimax's mismanagement of updates is driving it into the ground.
This.
This is the real danger - killing off the fan base, a fan base cultivated over 20 years.
The perception, the image, of ESO at the moment is not good - and believe it or not, that is a very real problem because the game will die if enough people believe it to suck - whatever the game's very real qualities.
Damage control should be a priority, restoring confidence should be a priority, and I'm not just talking about the memory-leak bug.
ttomaxneb18_ESO wrote: »What a hell do you talking about????Its not hard its Impossible!!!!!I got 1 hit kill from single mob on Vet9,im on full heavy armor and im templar tank!!! 1500-2800hit not from boss,from a single mob...What do you want defend????I played over 300H for Vet9,and now i can pull my caracter down in the toilette.... all my friend screwed up,cause not able kill 3 single mobs ... Defend what you wantr ,but dont forget you gonna be one time vet9 as well,and i hope they not gonna change nothing,or make more harder...enjoy!!!
ttomaxneb18_ESO wrote: »What a hell do you talking about????Its not hard its Impossible!!!!!I got 1 hit kill from single mob on Vet9,im on full heavy armor and im templar tank!!! 1500-2800hit not from boss,from a single mob...What do you want defend????I played over 300H for Vet9,and now i can pull my caracter down in the toilette.... all my friend screwed up,cause not able kill 3 single mobs ... Defend what you wantr ,but dont forget you gonna be one time vet9 as well,and i hope they not gonna change nothing,or make more harder...enjoy!!!
Lord_Draevan wrote: »ttomaxneb18_ESO wrote: »What a hell do you talking about????Its not hard its Impossible!!!!!I got 1 hit kill from single mob on Vet9,im on full heavy armor and im templar tank!!! 1500-2800hit not from boss,from a single mob...What do you want defend????I played over 300H for Vet9,and now i can pull my caracter down in the toilette.... all my friend screwed up,cause not able kill 3 single mobs ... Defend what you wantr ,but dont forget you gonna be one time vet9 as well,and i hope they not gonna change nothing,or make more harder...enjoy!!!
ZOS has said Veteran difficulty will be returned to pre-Craglorn difficulty in about 24 hours. This is a bug, not what they intended.
Kalann_Pander wrote: »People might take you more seriously if you weren't such a jerk when people disagree with you.
You're right, genius. I'm a jerk. Because when Zenimax hired me to infiltrate the ESO forums, they clearly instructed me to act like a jerk so I wouldn't expose my true nature as a Zenimax employee.
Lord_Draevan wrote: »ttomaxneb18_ESO wrote: »What a hell do you talking about????Its not hard its Impossible!!!!!I got 1 hit kill from single mob on Vet9,im on full heavy armor and im templar tank!!! 1500-2800hit not from boss,from a single mob...What do you want defend????I played over 300H for Vet9,and now i can pull my caracter down in the toilette.... all my friend screwed up,cause not able kill 3 single mobs ... Defend what you wantr ,but dont forget you gonna be one time vet9 as well,and i hope they not gonna change nothing,or make more harder...enjoy!!!
ZOS has said Veteran difficulty will be returned to pre-Craglorn difficulty in about 24 hours. This is a bug, not what they intended.
Boom. And there you have it.
kirnmalidus wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »ttomaxneb18_ESO wrote: »What a hell do you talking about????Its not hard its Impossible!!!!!I got 1 hit kill from single mob on Vet9,im on full heavy armor and im templar tank!!! 1500-2800hit not from boss,from a single mob...What do you want defend????I played over 300H for Vet9,and now i can pull my caracter down in the toilette.... all my friend screwed up,cause not able kill 3 single mobs ... Defend what you wantr ,but dont forget you gonna be one time vet9 as well,and i hope they not gonna change nothing,or make more harder...enjoy!!!
ZOS has said Veteran difficulty will be returned to pre-Craglorn difficulty in about 24 hours. This is a bug, not what they intended.
Boom. And there you have it.
Yes you have proof that this was a bug which should have been caught by QA and fixed before roll-out, which is all I have been saying today.
paulhbowmanb14_ESO wrote: »
You're right. They missed the bug. And it has been 48 hours of sheer hell on earth.
Do you see my point?
roflcopter wrote: »The main issue is, this is no longer "launch". This was a big patch that ZoS supposedly spent a lot of time on. After the trainwreck that was "official launch", you'd think they would have learned not to release things until they are fully tested.
This would probably be acceptable if ESO were a F2P or even B2P game. But it's not. We made the initial investment of purchasing the game, then we have to pay an additional charge on a monthly basis. We expect a AAA game to be run by a AAA team.
That's a valid point. But it's still been less than 2 months. I've heard stories about major World of Warcraft issues that were going on years after that game came out. I think we differ on our expectations, is all.
Keep in mind, WoW came out in what? 2004? This is 2014.
I can remember old Nintendo / Atari / Sega games that are more refined than today's buggy console games. Every console game now needs patches / updates / bugs and fixes. Nothing in 2014 is ever a finished product where back in the 80s it was what it was, finished and polished.
Funny to think about things in the 80s being more polished and finished than they are now.
whats your point?
tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »This is a video game. That's all. Just a game to play for fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boh92DrYEWs