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Re: Vengeance and population
Yeah, how are you supposed to enjoy vengeance when your faction isn't even playing?
Do we all have to join EP to enjoy it? What happen to this once fun event?
Do we all have to join EP to enjoy it? What happen to this once fun event?
RaikaNA
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Vengeance and population
I do not care if you hate vengeance or love vengeance combat, this is not about the vengeance combat system this is about population.
There are not enough players in this game who pvp with enough consistently to create a balanced map at the pop cap currently set in vengeance. The first stream i remember after test #1 they mentioned pop caps being roughly 500+ per faction, higher than launch. But at launch we had multiple pvp servers each one 500+ per faction with thousands of people at any time pvping. This does not exist currently. Currently the base population at anytime is what maybe 100 people per faction?
at 9pm est EP is currently 3 bars to 1 bar dc and ad. Roughly 4000 point lead on day two of the campaign.
I want to return to the 500v500v500 of the past. But this population does not exist. Yes set the bar high, I wish it would but going for 500v500v500 is not going to happen. Sure during test 1 and 2 there were many people out there. It was new, it had rewards going for it. But on the average day it will not be like this. ZoS you are going to end the games pvp if you go on with this. Maybe primetime this weekend we will reach 500v500v500 again. But in the off hours it will be so unbalanced it will not be fair at least 1 or 2 factions. Yes this does happen already but at least the #s difference is not as drastic as this. You will drive more people away than you will bring in.
If you are going to raise the pop, raise is slowly.
There are not enough players in this game who pvp with enough consistently to create a balanced map at the pop cap currently set in vengeance. The first stream i remember after test #1 they mentioned pop caps being roughly 500+ per faction, higher than launch. But at launch we had multiple pvp servers each one 500+ per faction with thousands of people at any time pvping. This does not exist currently. Currently the base population at anytime is what maybe 100 people per faction?
at 9pm est EP is currently 3 bars to 1 bar dc and ad. Roughly 4000 point lead on day two of the campaign.I want to return to the 500v500v500 of the past. But this population does not exist. Yes set the bar high, I wish it would but going for 500v500v500 is not going to happen. Sure during test 1 and 2 there were many people out there. It was new, it had rewards going for it. But on the average day it will not be like this. ZoS you are going to end the games pvp if you go on with this. Maybe primetime this weekend we will reach 500v500v500 again. But in the off hours it will be so unbalanced it will not be fair at least 1 or 2 factions. Yes this does happen already but at least the #s difference is not as drastic as this. You will drive more people away than you will bring in.
If you are going to raise the pop, raise is slowly.
Ostonoha
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Re: Companions should have Skill Styles, too!
SilverBride wrote: »I understand why no helmets or changing their hairstyles or body markings, but why not everything else? We can already dress them how we want so skill styles should be accessible, too.
we cant dress them how we want if we cant do simple stuff like even put helmets on them, that is a basic part of "dressing up" for your character
it makes more sense to not allow using say polymorphs on a companion, as that is completely changing their appearance (or in technical terms, their character model and voice)
other things like skins, body/face markings, adornments, or hairstyles i dont have a lot of preference on, but i could at least see how those would possibly alter character identity
Re: Passwords
" a password that is so complex that it has to be written down defeats the fundamental reason for a password since anyone who finds the written down password can then gain access to the account."
At this point you are either living with people you do not trust or you've had a break in...... if either of these is true then I suggest you have more to worry about than "written down" passwords!!
At this point you are either living with people you do not trust or you've had a break in...... if either of these is true then I suggest you have more to worry about than "written down" passwords!!
Re: Vengeance - THE WORST PVP EVER
It's just weird that ZOS doesn't offer any incentive what so ever to play their "test". If I wanted templated versions of PvP I could have done that elsewhere. Now the reason I purchased the game has been rendered moot. No reason to log on with mandated vengeance.
Re: Vengeance Server
Oh, the hyperbole and histrionics.
Entered Cyro, 5 minutes to set up skills, checked the map, found a fight, went there, and found maybe 20 other blues.
The population was certainly lower than the previous Vengeance campaign, but a lot of that is because there's no Golden Pursuit to drive people there, and it's running concurrently with the Undaunted event which has a lot of people farming boxes.
I'd really like to see Vengeance replace U50 and no-CP, which would allow newer players to hop right into Cyrodiil and not get immediately auto-deleted.
Entered Cyro, 5 minutes to set up skills, checked the map, found a fight, went there, and found maybe 20 other blues.
The population was certainly lower than the previous Vengeance campaign, but a lot of that is because there's no Golden Pursuit to drive people there, and it's running concurrently with the Undaunted event which has a lot of people farming boxes.
I'd really like to see Vengeance replace U50 and no-CP, which would allow newer players to hop right into Cyrodiil and not get immediately auto-deleted.
Re: Passwords
Or you could use a password manager - there are a couple of decent ones out there (check recent reviews/articles on cybersecurity). These days, short passwords are easily cracked and definitely insecure, so length is important.
Re: Thank you for finally fixing Frostbite
MashmalloMan wrote: »Still needs to be 20% or above to exceed generic sets like Advancing Yokeda if you ask me. I'm sure a parser can prove any number of generic meta sets can do better, even if you're going all in on frost, which noticeably tanks your DPS in the 1st place.
I'll never understand why their spreadsheets don't account for this. Why do niche, focussed sets perform worse even when you build for them? If you can't use them on a niche setup, then why would a general build use them either? They literally have no place in the game.What's even more confusing is how empty you feel when you attempt to make these sets work. For example, someone may say to themselves "well, I'm okay to lose 10% of my DPS because I get to role play the theme I'm going for by using this set". I know this happens, because I used to make the same sacrifices before I realized it was poointless.
- Ritualist is bad for a pet tamer (Grave Lord + Animal Companions + Daedric Summoning).
- Xanmeer Spellweaver is bad for an Elementalist (Storm Calling + Aedric Flame + Winters Embrace).
- All the "ws damage for x element abilities" sets have been dead for 8+ years.
Frostbite for example has no visual indicator that it does anything different from Advancing Yokeda, so even from a roleplay perspective, they feel virtually the same. Had it been a situation like a Stam Sorc using Storm Fist, then maybe I'd understand... But these sets I've listed are all just stat multipliers, they do nothing for role play beyond making you weaker, so they fail on multiple fronts.
Finally, a set like AY buffs your healing, all of the element focused sets do nothing for that regard unless they happen to have a "heal based on damage done" effect like DK's Flame Claw. All the more reason that these should be more powerful, the visual appeal being your element focussed playstyle hits harder than any other set combo you could use. That, I would understand.
Every word of what you said is true and should be heeded by the powers that be.
But specifically your final thought on the particularly toxic combination of undertuned niche set tuning + zero modicum of any audio/visual additional roleplay flavor that truly feels bad for the player. You're already signing-up for a self-nerf but you get nothing at all in return to from most of these sets to enhance your theme or vibe.
This has been a worrying trend even in recent trial sets, where most are soulless "stat sticks" lacking any sort of animation of flavor. I think that you have to go all the way back to Yandir's to find a stat-based DPS set that has any sort of visual indication that the set is even active. And that was what, 2020?
Flashy animations are FUN. We need more of them rather than less.
Re: ESO is not a sci fi spaceship shoot-em up (or at least it shouldn't be)
Jordan_Black wrote: »twisttop138 wrote: »Arcanist was ZOS's answer to getting more people into more content... raising the floor on the DPS spread. On the low end you have the casual players, the people who can't or won't light attack weave, the people who aren't interested in practicing a rotation for hours on end, and the people who don't understand sets and rotations. ZOS had been trying for years to lower the ceiling on DPS... stuff like capping crit damage. It never worked. With oakensoul they started the effort to raise the floor. Now people who couldn't or wouldn't bar swap could still get decent DPS. Arc is the ultimate answer to raising the floor. They stopped caring that the top end elite players would now parse 120k or higher; it was just more important to raise the floor from sub-50k to something that could get them into vet content... more like 90k. But since Arc ALSO substantially raised the ceiling, the top end DPSers also played the class... most raids were 6 or more parse arcs. Subclassing is just doubling down on that concept. Now you can take the three most potent skill lines and stack them. The ceiling is now, what? 170k? More? I stopped following it. But it also raised the floor some more. Now anyone can tackle any content, which is pretty much what ZOS's goal was from what I can see. They have had many opportunities to nerf arcs. They have chosen repeatedly not to because it is doing EXACTLY what they wanted it to do. Beam isn't going anywhere, and if it distresses you so much to see it, this probably isn't the game for you anymore.
This exactly. So many members of my social guild have been able to start raiding on a level more than normal that multiple vet trials teaching run nights had to be established and a prog team. Disabled vets, senior citizens and more have been able to take part in stuff they never could before. I think this is exactly what they intended with arc and the velothi.
I saw a recent rich Lambert interview quoted on the forums that was quite illuminating on this. He kinda misses the meta and says if you don't like it you don't need to run it. I think that misses the mark and disregards the experience of high end players that have to run what's best for the team. To be clear I'm not one of those guys, I'm learning hard mode trials but still run an arc plar DK to get the best damage possible for my team.
But I think that ZOS has had many chances to bring arc in line with other classes and have not. They seem to have done their best to get around it with easy things like class mastery. I think the lack of changes speaks loudly. If many many people are having a good time with it and then some of us are not, they will probably side with the many.
To be clear, while it doesn't bother me to see beams and I don't mind running it, I have fun with the class (the spending time raiding with my friends is what's important to me) I would not be upset if things are brought in line. Let's maybe try to get to the place where everyone enjoys things and can choose to run what they want in any content. I think though that, with the way things have been going, the argument should be to buff up instead of nerf cause it doesn't look like that's on the table for awhile.
" Disabled vets, senior citizens and more have been able to take part in stuff they never could before. I think this is exactly what they intended with arc and the velothi."
I love this. Oakensoul was wonderful for this reason. But a) why does it need to look like a space ship lazer, and b) why does it not only need to be floor raising but also ceiling raising? Surely ZOS has someone on staff who can figure out the mathematics for this to work right, to not have every single trial be SPACE LAZER MANIA
The problem is it's impossible to raise the floor without also raising the ceiling.* Everything that they've ever done to try to bring the damage down at the top end, the top 1% has bounced back and then some within a few weeks. The group that gets hit the hardest is the group who is comfortably doing vets, who now can't bounce back as easily.
*ok, fine, there is one way they can do it, but it does against every philosophy of combat and will absolutely drive people away: capping damage. They already capped crit damage at 125%, but if they ever came out and said that raw damage was also capped, people would riot.
...however, considering that crit damage and basic resistances do have caps, I could totally see them eventually deciding to put caps on weapon/spell damage and/or crit chance. That would definitely infuriate a lot of people, but it would be the only way they could actually serve the goal of lowering the ceiling without lowering the floor as well.
Re: Official Discussion Thread for "Brave Tamriel’s Dungeons During the Undaunted Celebration"
mdjessup4906 wrote: »Anyone can do normal dungeons. And I mean anyone. I avoided them far too long myself for fear of letting group down but its misplaced fr.
No gear? Craft the below. Many will do it for free if your new or poor.
Dps: Orders wrath+anything damage related + druid head and shoulders just to fill the spot. All stam/mag, all divines trait, 5 medium 1 light, 1 heavy to level.
Healer same as dps, just go all magic and use resto staff and healing skills.
Tank: 5 pc heavy armor, sword and shield front, ice staff back, in any sets thst looks useful to a group, or just pure survival if your really unsure. All health enchant, reinforced big pieces, divines small ones. Use food and attributes to give yourself 30-40k health.
In q your likely to get a burn group anyway so enjoy the carry and free loot. But being at least thet much geared will let 4 inexperienced players complete without too much trouble.
Anyone can do a normal dungeon but here is the gear, the DPS, Healer, Tank needs and you can use elite pots to double or triple your stats. Just take the ride, let the group carry you, they'll kick you but that won't matter?
This is all so much non-sense. Stop with the excuses.
I think more people can solo dungeons than are aware they can.
I have some advantages - CP2000+ so all the passives and fully bought slotted skills (not that I've ever seen a difference when I change them), gold crafted armor and weapons, Oakensoul and I usually play with a companion and often with a bear.
Disadvantages include nerve issues which mean that a button my brain pushes may or may not get pushed by my hand, dizziness that means that sometimes, I have to stop and close my eyes for a bit (where the bear and companion really are helpful), ability to roll dodge or use ultimates is fairly random.
I'm good at blocking but not at blocking when it's needed and not 30 seconds earlier. I can sometimes avoid a run of the mill clanfear jump but usually get whacked by the tail.
I always thought that my DPS was around 20K so when Xbox got a DPS tracker addin, found out that, yep, I'm right. I rarely break 20k.
But, even with all that, I've managed to solo all the base game dungeons on normal, both 1 & 2 except where impossible, a few of the DLC dungeons with my brother who actually did significantly less DPS than me (he died last year so be nice), and more world bosses than I expected.
TLDR: if you've never soloed a dungeon before, you might do better than you expect. Your DPS is probably a lot higher than mine and your skills fire properly so give Fungal Grotto or Elden Ring a shot. I recommend stopping at the door and checking out what you'll need to kill in the next room before attacking.
I'd avoid Banished Cells because final boss has a heal and companions seem to drag the boss to where the heal spawns so you don't have time to kill it. I don't know if there's a lot of damage from the last boss on Spindleclutch, but the Whisperer does have a lot of grab skills that are annoying.
Mik195
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