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Isbilen✭✭✭✭✭ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »
Of the things mentioned in the patch notes, this disappoints me the most. It's not a dynamic or truly useful way to spend AP -- it doesn't help the Alliance War or combat against other players. It comes across as a "throw the people with tons of AP a bone" rather than an interesting way to tie the motif into the game world or to crafting like they did with Ancient Orc. I'm fine with it staying, however, so long as they give us another way to get it outside of AP, such as from Cyrodiil bosses or delves. Also, why not in Craglorn? That is where the style is already available in some gear sets...
You're thinking of the Yokudan style probably. The Akaviri style has always been a PvP set style. It's the style on the original alliance-armour and weapons such as "Covenant Cuirass, Dominion Sword, Pact Breeches" etc, which you by the way earn (earned?) by gaining AP
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Kerioko✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »NEW FEATURES / UPDATES / BIG CHANGES - DLC GAME PACK
Crafting Node Scaling- Raw materials in Wrothgar will look like (and drop) materials based on the peak of your aptitude in the craft they are associated with. This applies to Blacksmithing, Woodworking, Clothing, Enchanting, and Alchemy Water in Wrothgar.
- For example, if you have Metalworking 9 and Woodworking 1, you will encounter Voidstone Ore and Maple Wood in the wild since your Metalworking level is high, but Woodworking is of a lower level.
- If your tradeskill mastery is sufficient to work in Rubedite, Ruby Ash Wood, or Ancestor Silk, you will have a chance at encountering them in the world.
- Hide that is normally provided by an animal will scale to the Tailoring rank of the player character looting the animal. This is to ensure everyone gets materials they can use, at any level.
- Player characters in a group with differing ranks in Tailoring will all get different levels of hide.
@ZOS_GinaBruno, So on my V1 Alt Master Crafter, I will be getting V16 mats and V16 hide from animals. But on my V16 main (which I use to gather mats) I will be getting all LVL 1 mats since I don't have any skill points to put into crafting.
Basically what your saying is I need to level all my crafting on all my alts to get useful mats. I feel sorry for those people that skipped content on alts and grinded them to V16 and have very limited skill points! No useful mats for you!
Would make more since if you looted stuff in your LVL range and not based on your crafting level. This would help ensure that "Everyone gets mats that are useful to their character!"
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ThatNeonZebraAgain✭✭✭✭✭ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »
Of the things mentioned in the patch notes, this disappoints me the most. It's not a dynamic or truly useful way to spend AP -- it doesn't help the Alliance War or combat against other players. It comes across as a "throw the people with tons of AP a bone" rather than an interesting way to tie the motif into the game world or to crafting like they did with Ancient Orc. I'm fine with it staying, however, so long as they give us another way to get it outside of AP, such as from Cyrodiil bosses or delves. Also, why not in Craglorn? That is where the style is already available in some gear sets...
You're thinking of the Yokudan style probably. The Akaviri style has always been a PvP set style. It's the style on the original alliance-armour and weapons such as "Covenant Cuirass, Dominion Sword, Pact Breeches" etc, which you by the way earn (earned?) by gaining AP
Ahh you are correct! But my main point still stands.
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✭✭✭ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »
Of the things mentioned in the patch notes, this disappoints me the most. It's not a dynamic or truly useful way to spend AP -- it doesn't help the Alliance War or combat against other players. It comes across as a "throw the people with tons of AP a bone" rather than an interesting way to tie the motif into the game world or to crafting like they did with Ancient Orc. I'm fine with it staying, however, so long as they give us another way to get it outside of AP, such as from Cyrodiil bosses or delves. Also, why not in Craglorn? That is where the style is already available in some gear sets...
You're thinking of the Yokudan style probably. The Akaviri style has always been a PvP set style. It's the style on the original alliance-armour and weapons such as "Covenant Cuirass, Dominion Sword, Pact Breeches" etc, which you by the way earn (earned?) by gaining AP
Ahh you are correct! But my main point still stands.
Hmm not really, it doesn't.
Your point is that your should be able to get the set outside of PvP , without using AP as currency. If that was the case then nobody would buy it from PvP sellers, therefore AP would remain as useless a currency as it is now and there would be no Gold<->AP exchange like there was in 1.6.
I really really don't understand this argument. I'm a PvPer and I have to farm PvE dungeons for undaunted helmets and zombies in IC for dark ethers like crazy! Yet the minute some reward is hidden behind some actual PvP, y'all go bananas.
They absolutely should throw people with AP a bone. It's a game currency they have been collecting for over a year and ZOS suddenly decided with the last update, that it should be worth nothing. Imagine having 3-4m gold in your account and tomorrow you find you can't buy anything of value with it. That's what happened.
For the love of god, just suck it up and either do some pvp or buy the motif. it's not useful gear, it's just a stylistic thing And stop requesting that all rewards in the game are provided by mindlessly killing mobs which apparently is the way you prefer to spend your time in ESO. Other forms of play need to yield material rewards too.EU | PC | AD4 -
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ekobmx✭CP Cap should be 900, why have the spend 300 CP in each tree Achievement if we cant even do it?0 -
Nax✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »NEW FEATURES / UPDATES / BIG CHANGES - DLC GAME PACK
Crafting Node Scaling- Raw materials in Wrothgar will look like (and drop) materials based on the peak of your aptitude in the craft they are associated with. This applies to Blacksmithing, Woodworking, Clothing, Enchanting, and Alchemy Water in Wrothgar.
- For example, if you have Metalworking 9 and Woodworking 1, you will encounter Voidstone Ore and Maple Wood in the wild since your Metalworking level is high, but Woodworking is of a lower level.
- If your tradeskill mastery is sufficient to work in Rubedite, Ruby Ash Wood, or Ancestor Silk, you will have a chance at encountering them in the world.
- Hide that is normally provided by an animal will scale to the Tailoring rank of the player character looting the animal. This is to ensure everyone gets materials they can use, at any level.
- Player characters in a group with differing ranks in Tailoring will all get different levels of hide.
@ZOS_GinaBruno, So on my V1 Alt Master Crafter, I will be getting V16 mats and V16 hide from animals. But on my V16 main (which I use to gather mats) I will be getting all LVL 1 mats since I don't have any skill points to put into crafting.
Basically what your saying is I need to level all my crafting on all my alts to get useful mats. I feel sorry for those people that skipped content on alts and grinded them to V16 and have very limited skill points! No useful mats for you!
Would make more since if you looted stuff in your LVL range and not based on your crafting level. This would help ensure that "Everyone gets mats that are useful to their character!"
@Kerioko I believe this will only be the case when in Wrothgar, not world-wide-- at least, that is my perception of the quoted notes. I've underlined the relevant pieces of information for clarity above.Edited by Nax on October 6, 2015 3:20AM0 - Raw materials in Wrothgar will look like (and drop) materials based on the peak of your aptitude in the craft they are associated with. This applies to Blacksmithing, Woodworking, Clothing, Enchanting, and Alchemy Water in Wrothgar.
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When you have players who have so many Champion Points that they can solo one of the 12 player trials then it's definitely time to put CP caps in place.Please... PLEASE rethink the CP cap entirely.
The whole CP system was created with it's own diminishing returns and scalability. Why ... WHY do you insist on adding a hard-cap to the only value that many players see as their only end-game pve benefit?
CP do not need a cap - they just need attention!
PLEASE rethink the cap - all you REALLY need to do is to use the tools it already has built into it. All it really needs is a heavier-handed DR system and the tweaks to the scale / speed at which they can be earned. Implement the scale changes you already have, weaken the values received for points spent across the board, and make the DR more stringent.
DO NOT CAP CP! FFS...
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Thanks. I scrolled right over the crafting style note since I never thought AP was in any way related. If that is all they have in mind for AP, what a complete joke. How is a crafting style useful to PvP? Also, two weeks after this DLC goes live I am sure anyone can buy this style in the Crown Store. I just can't believe this is all they could come up with for the use of AP.
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BuffaloBnSoul ShrivenPlease... PLEASE rethink the CP cap entirely.
The whole CP system was created with it's own diminishing returns and scalability. Why ... WHY do you insist on adding a hard-cap to the only value that many players see as their only end-game pve benefit?
CP do not need a cap - they just need attention!
PLEASE rethink the cap - all you REALLY need to do is to use the tools it already has built into it. All it really needs is a heavier-handed DR system and the tweaks to the scale / speed at which they can be earned. Implement the scale changes you already have, weaken the values received for points spent across the board, and make the DR more stringent.
DO NOT CAP CP! FFS...
This morning I sat in on a conversation of the leader from one of the most well-known PvE/PvP guilds in AD. The guys did not seem extremely pleased at the CP cap announcement. Some individuals have found the CP system as an incentive to get more. A personal goal if you like. However, the patch notes still suggest that they will keep earning CPs in arrears. No big loss in the end. I interpret is as follows: ZoS wants a larger portion of the community to be on a level playing field.
All we can do is thank PvP for the rabbits! The need for seasons in CP, as it regards PvP, is long overdue. Some have suggested that CP have no effect within Cyrodill. That would seem more fitting, rather than penalise those who have spent effort to accumulate CP.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »[*] White-Gold Tower (Normal & Veteran)- Decreased the interaction time on the Inhibitor Pinion.
Does anyone understand what that means / implies in terms of strategy for that boss and could take a few minutes to explain ? I don't figure it out...
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In terms of champion points.... "a lot" what is "a lot" ?
What's the xp reduced to? Is there different xp rates for different amounts of cp? Pretty vague
So vampire Mist form still gonna be bugged and CC effects will go through it?
Dissolve into a dark mist to reduce all damage dealt to you by 75%. While active, you are also invulnerable to control effects and healing magic
If you mean.... cc won't effect it.... would be kinda strange to have talons effect mist. Or fear to effect a werewolf or vampire in general for that matter, which it does... I find this weird. You cannot catch the wind!
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Some would dispute that running around the Scar in Craglorn with an OP Sorc build for hours on end, or using one of the mny XP exploits amount to an accomplishment.The problem with the level cap is that you have pretty much stuck it to some of your most dedicated players. You need to increase the diminishing returns, not completely strip players of their accomplishments. This implementation was poorly done by ZOS. Many people support this change because it helps them. The problem is you could have helped them without COMPLETELY eliminating what others have accomplished. Will ZOS be issuing a refund for XP scrolls purchased?2 -
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So, some new styles are now PVP-only, right?ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »NEW FEATURES / UPDATES / BIG CHANGES - BASE-GAME PATCH
Akaviri Crafting Style
The secrets of the Akaviri crafting style have been uncovered by scholars on the front lines of the Alliance War!- Siege merchants in Cyrodiil will sell chapters of the Akaviri Style for large amounts of Alliance Points.
- To learn an Akaviri style chapter, you must have at least Rank 9 in at least one of the Metalworking, Tailoring, or Woodworking passives.
- The merchants will also sell the raw style material needed to craft Akaviri items, Ancient Scale, for a modicum of Alliance Points.
- You must refine ten Ancient Scales together into one Goldscale in order to use it in crafting Akaviri arms and armor.
- Once refined together into Goldscale, the item is immediately bound to your account. If you wish to trade them, you must do so in their unrefined form!
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So, some new styles are now PVP-only, right?ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »NEW FEATURES / UPDATES / BIG CHANGES - BASE-GAME PATCH
Akaviri Crafting Style
The secrets of the Akaviri crafting style have been uncovered by scholars on the front lines of the Alliance War!- Siege merchants in Cyrodiil will sell chapters of the Akaviri Style for large amounts of Alliance Points.
- To learn an Akaviri style chapter, you must have at least Rank 9 in at least one of the Metalworking, Tailoring, or Woodworking passives.
- The merchants will also sell the raw style material needed to craft Akaviri items, Ancient Scale, for a modicum of Alliance Points.
- You must refine ten Ancient Scales together into one Goldscale in order to use it in crafting Akaviri arms and armor.
- Once refined together into Goldscale, the item is immediately bound to your account. If you wish to trade them, you must do so in their unrefined form!
If they are tradable. Only for the people selling em :P1 -
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I see it specifically mentioned that item quality will matter, and I am totally in favor of that, but will item level still scale with your character? For example, I currently have several Master weapons of various levels that I earned from leaderboard ranking end of campaign rewards in non-vet PvP. If the level doesn't scale, these rewards become nearly useless in a few levels -- they likely won't even last you through the next 7 day campaign! The same is true for various set pieces I have collected the same way. Given how quickly you can outlevel gear, it would be an itemization disaster if item level doesn't scale up.0 -
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@anitajoneb17_ESO I haven't played the dungeon so I can't be sure, but to me it suggests something like this:anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »[*] White-Gold Tower (Normal & Veteran)- Decreased the interaction time on the Inhibitor Pinion.
Does anyone understand what that means / implies in terms of strategy for that boss and could take a few minutes to explain ? I don't figure it out...
Say you activate the pinion now and it takes 6 seconds to animate / activate/ w/e before something happens. It will now only take 2 seconds before something happens. (Numbers are chosen at random.)UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭PsychoKRATOS1 wrote: »In terms of champion points.... "a lot" what is "a lot" ?
What's the xp reduced to? Is there different xp rates for different amounts of cp? Pretty vagueSo vampire Mist form still gonna be bugged and CC effects will go through it?
Dissolve into a dark mist to reduce all damage dealt to you by 75%. While active, you are also invulnerable to control effects and healing magic
If you mean.... cc won't effect it.... would be kinda strange to have talons effect mist. Or fear to effect a werewolf or vampire in general for that matter, which it does... I find this weird. You cannot catch the wind!
Actually all description of this ability is wrong all damage isn't reduced by 75%, damage from some abilities isn't even reduced by 50%.
While active, you are also vulnerable to control effects and healing magic. More correct description.
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aialghannam_ESO✭✭✭Sadly, they haven't reverted back the "no stamina regen while blocking" disaster. Hopefully, they will soon.
Heven't played much eso since they made tanking so boring with that mistake of an update.Edited by aialghannam_ESO on October 6, 2015 9:23AMR.I.P. Tanks0 -
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Thanks for your interest in my question... however, if you haven't tried that fight, I'm afraid you cannot really understand... basically, this "pinion" looks and works like a dark anchor pinion. It's linked to a big bad boss called "the planar inhibitor" and while we fight said boss, we have to keep the pinion closed all the time, otherwise it spawns adds, aoes and plenty of deadly things. The pinion keeps reopening itself at regular, short intervals so we have to close it again. If we don't, well the nasty things happen but the interaction is still possible without time limit so I don't see the point of "shortening interaction time", which would imply that after 2 seconds the pinion would be doomed to remain open (and the party wipes soon after). Sounds pretty senseless.
If it means that the pinion will reopen quicker than it currently does after being closed, it would mean a significant increase in the difficulty of a fight which is imho already troublesome enough.
I hope it means that the *animation* for it, which immobilizes the player in the middle of potential AOEs will be reduced so that closing it will be quicker and less dangerous, that would make this encounter slightly easier.
But that also could be a wrong interpretation.. ideas anyone ? @ZOS_GinaBruno , is it possible for you to enlighten us ?Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on October 6, 2015 9:26AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Enodoc
Thanks for your interest in my question... however, if you haven't tried that fight, I'm afraid you cannot really understand... basically, this "pinion" looks and works like a dark anchor pinion. It's linked to a big bad boss called "the planar inhibitor" and while we fight said boss, we have to keep the pinion closed all the time, otherwise it spawns adds, aoes and plenty of deadly things. The pinion keeps reopening itself at regular, short intervals so we have to close it again. If we don't, well the nasty things happen but the interaction is still possible without time limit so I don't see the point of "shortening interaction time", which would imply that after 2 seconds the pinion would be doomed to remain open (and the party wipes soon after). Sounds pretty senseless.
If it means that the pinion will reopen quicker than it currently does after being closed, it would mean a significant increase in the difficulty of a fight which is imho already troublesome enough.
I hope it means that the *animation* for it, which immobilizes the player in the middle of potential AOEs will be reduced so that closing it will be quicker and less dangerous, that would make this encounter slightly easier.
But that also could be a wrong interpretation.. ideas anyone ? @ZOS_GinaBruno , is it possible for you to enlighten us ?
Thanks for the description. Based on that, I would think it's probably the immobilizing animation that has been reduced.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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