Feedback From The Update 40 LiveStream- We want to hear from you!

karthrag_inak · September 2023

Blood_again wrote: »

Grand Master Crafting Station is a great and total QoL present. Looking forward to checking it. A bit dizzy about the price

Khajiit did not see any price mentioned. How much are these going to cost?

code65536 · September 2023

Will we finally get hirelings for jewelry? And alchemy?

Dojohoda · September 2023

It's looking good! Nice work!

TechMaybeHic · September 2023

Most the class sets are trash. Except DK.

Templar set would be a no go on just having to cast 50 dawns wrath abilities and a nova that players just move out of. Taking half the plars mag means even if it stacked per tick and the nova stuck to an enemy; it would still be a no go.

I mean why would I bother when I could run dark convergence, have a similar impact, with a pull for free?

Blood_again · September 2023

karthrag_inak wrote: »

Blood_again wrote: »

Grand Master Crafting Station is a great and total QoL present. Looking forward to checking it. A bit dizzy about the price

Khajiit did not see any price mentioned. How much are these going to cost?

Neither do I. That makes me dizzy, because I'm not optimistic about the price

Toxic_Hemlock · September 2023

From an older 99% solo player, the archive sounds like a breath of fresh air and I cannot wait till it is released.

The jewelry update sounds like it will finally bring golding out the rings and amulets in line with the other disciplines.

The group finder I will most likely never use, but I am glad you added it for those that wanted it.

All in all I am looking forward to update 40, mind you the class sets need work IMO.

WySoSirius · September 2023

With jewellery master writs I still have blue writs stored , will they be deleted from my inventory and storage or do they change ??

lillybit · September 2023

I'd be interested in finding out if they're also going to rebalance levelling for jewellery crafting too. It takes almost twice as long to level compared to the others so it would be nice if this is bought into line too

VixxVexx · September 2023

Please disable ult gen whilst in corrosive if you are going to give DKs 100% uptime on BOTH heroisms. Already forgotten about initial oakensoul I see.

Trundik · September 2023

That jewelry change looks like another nail to the coffin. Currently on play station you can't get serious money farming raws, because bots harvest all of it and sell cheap. Jewelry is single crafting discipline that you actually could use to get money by getting grains from daily writs. Current price for 1 grain is somewhere around 6-7k, while price for 1 tempered alloy is around 2-3k for example. So while I have 10 jewelers I could get some grains and sell platings. As I see consequences, RIP my business. And again I have feeling that evry thing ZOS touches now, will be broken. Jewelry cost was a feature. Morover it was profitable. Thanks again guys.

fluffybunny · September 2023

Honestly as much as I think the crown store thing is a huge mistake and a blow to the community, some of this stuff looks cool. The group finder will probably have a few kinks to work out but that’s how it is with any new feature. I’m so excited to use it. A grand master crafting station was always needed and I’m glad it will be included in the update. The Endless Archive sounds like fun, but my biggest hope is that the incentives are crown store-tier. Like, I think the game play will be really fun and all, but PLEASE make the incentives worth it.

I also think the jewelry update was needed. It’ll help relax the economy a little bit imho.

Elvenheart · September 2023

I liked almost everything. I was hoping for more variety from the class sets, specifically sets that only consisted of 2, 3 or maybe four pieces to add spice to theory crafting.

Tyrant_Tim · September 2023

First, it was a breath of fresh air to see the enthusiasm that your team has for the new content, and the follow-up with Deltia afterward was perfect. My number one question when I first saw the sets, was whether they would have weight variations, and that question was luckily answered within that follow-up interview.

Endless Archive; I love the idea of two-player activities. I have been playing ESO with my partner for years, and it’s awesome to finally have content catered to us. Having the ability to either shorten or lengthen our journey within is such an amazing feature, as life happens and you can’t always dedicate hours of your time into activities.

Grand Master Crafting Stations; those are an amazing addition, as they enable you to create thematic crafting areas within your home, like a furnace and forge for your blacksmithing area.

Rebalanced Jewelry Crafting; funny enough, I was just talking to one of my friends about how great it would be to not have to refine 10 grains to create a plating. When this was revealed on stream, I immediately got a discord message interrogating me for 2024 Chapter details…

Spellcrafting please? lol

Group Finder; I’m very happy that this is coming to ESO, certain activities have become extremely difficult to find people, like Harrowstorms, and although this isn’t quite Cross-Play, it is at least something.

Secrets of the Telvanni House; I really appreciate that we’re getting another house, but I can’t help but feel this pales in comparison to the notable canvas homes we’ve received in the past.

Overall, the stream was great, and I’m looking forward to Update 40; and hopefully we have volumes of combat changes this Monday’s week one of PTS to help bring up some left out abilities, like Sun Shield.

colossalvoids · September 2023

It's all sounds pretty good. Arena seems interesting and kinda new, will not test on PTS to jump in fresh on live though.

The only thing are sets coming with it, I wish there were more powerful options that would play along or enhance current builds rather than some niche ones or ones going against the class nature so to say, like nightblade one. Wish they were enhancing current identity or solving class issues in a way.

Also sets being class specific they had a great opportunity to make classes more distinct again, but seems like not this time around which is a shame.

CrashTest · September 2023

WySoSirius wrote: »

With jewellery master writs I still have blue writs stored , will they be deleted from my inventory and storage or do they change ??

This is what I want to know as well because I just delete them now.

LukosCreyden · September 2023

Everything looks really good so far. My overall impression is highly positive.
However, why is necromancer still forced into mediocrity? It REALLY needed something good from its unique set, but from what I can see, the new necro set does not cover any of the various issues the class has.
I am hoping for some good things for necromancer with the U40 patch notes, because that class is SUPER dead currently.

Darkheart · September 2023

Will deconstructing give materials for upgrading then ?

Jaraal · September 2023

So what happens when one or both of your group members gets stuck in combat in the Endless Archive instance, and there's no way to get unstuck other than force quitting? Do you have to start over from scratch, and waste all that time spent due to circumstances beyond your control? And are your leaderboard points wiped for that run?

laniakea_0 · September 2023

@Jaraal how would you get stuck in combat if you have to kill all enemies anyway?

KlauthWarthog · September 2023

laniakea_0 wrote: »

@Jaraal how would you get stuck in combat if you have to kill all enemies anyway?

It is very safe to assume that, at some point, some NPC will backpedal into a wall.

lillybit · September 2023

Didn't look like too many walls around, think this actually has potential

HazierBlue · September 2023

Great show and a solid update. Good job to everyone involved.

Muizer · September 2023

This looks to be a great update!I For me, this game has long had a problem with a high barrier between casual/solo and veteran/group content. I've felt kind of trapped in a no-man's-land in between. This update seems to purposefully address some of the bottlenecks in the existing content and adds content that's also spanning that gap. So yeah, I think this is really going to be a robust improvement of the game for me.

LokiPagan · September 2023

Trundik wrote: »

That jewelry change looks like another nail to the coffin. Currently on play station you can't get serious money farming raws, because bots harvest all of it and sell cheap. Jewelry is single crafting discipline that you actually could use to get money by getting grains from daily writs. Current price for 1 grain is somewhere around 6-7k, while price for 1 tempered alloy is around 2-3k for example. So while I have 10 jewelers I could get some grains and sell platings. As I see consequences, RIP my business. And again I have feeling that evry thing ZOS touches now, will be broken. Jewelry cost was a feature. Morover it was profitable. Thanks again guys.

Uh...no. It was broken because on PC it'll cost over a million to gold out a single piece of jewelry. I'm sorry you can't make money doing it anymore, but for 99% of players this is a welcome change. This wasn't a "feature", it should have been fixed ages ago.

Overall, I'm really excited for everything, I've avoided things like DSA and BRP because it's a pain to look for a group, can't wait to use groupfinder for all sorts of things. Endless Archives looks awesome.

lillybit · September 2023

Trundik wrote: »

That jewelry change looks like another nail to the coffin. Currently on play station you can't get serious money farming raws, because bots harvest all of it and sell cheap. Jewelry is single crafting discipline that you actually could use to get money by getting grains from daily writs. Current price for 1 grain is somewhere around 6-7k, while price for 1 tempered alloy is around 2-3k for example. So while I have 10 jewelers I could get some grains and sell platings. As I see consequences, RIP my business. And again I have feeling that evry thing ZOS touches now, will be broken. Jewelry cost was a feature. Morover it was profitable. Thanks again guys.

I disagree, at least in the short term. Platings should drop at a similar rate to grains now and still sell for the same price as grains. They might even go up a bit now it will be viable for everyone to gold out jewellery and demand will be higher.

gariondavey · September 2023

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Now we want to hear from you! What did you think of the Endless Archive, Grand Master Crafting Station, Rebalanced Jewelry Crafting, Group Finder, new house from the Secrets of the Telvanni event?

Endless archive: pretty cool, glad it is base game. Some of the sets seem grossly overtuned (dk for instance) and others seem pretty awful (templar), from a pvp perspective. Not a fan of telvar being a reward from this either.

Grand master crafting station: glad it is being implemented. This was a great QoL fix.

Rebalanced jewelry crafting: wish this was implemented 4+ years ago when people started asking for this to be reworked. The way it is being handled, as late at is it, is good in my books. Thanks.

Group finder: great addition to the game for pve people. For pvp, and more specifically bgs, I really really really hope it can allow 3 premade teams to get into the same bg match. When you sit in queue for 30+ minutes with 2 other teams sitting in queue as well and you can't get into the same match, it is extremely frustrating. If you can indeed insure 3 bg teams get into the same match, this could breathe some much needed life into the bg community.

House: I don't do housing but it looked alright from first glance.

U40 looks pretty solid, and that is coming from someone who has pretty low expectations and hopes for this game (which I do love, but acknowledge it needs some help and better care from the owners).

Hopefully these notes on Monday don't disappoint.

Thanks Kevin and everyone else.

virtus753 · September 2023

Since you asked for feedback on the livestream: I watched the stream and didn't get any progress towards either drop. Yes, my accounts are connected. I've received every other drop just fine. Something went wrong here, and Support keeps saying they won't help. Unfortunately that seems to be an increasingly common pattern these days.

Glad for the QoL fixes; not very impressed with the class sets, and especially the continued marginalization of stamina templar identity. The sets need to contribute to the power fantasy of each class in order to help class identity, and what was demonstrated merely continues to reinforce the status quo for me. I hope the endless archive is entertaining enough to keep my partner and myself occupied, but I have concerns about the rewards.

All in all this wasn't a great start to Update 40 for me. I hope it gets better.

CameraBeardThePirate · September 2023

It was a little unclear when discussed in the stream.

Does the new Custom Group Finder allow for full, 12-man BG lobbies? I.e., can my guild finally have pre-made nights without having to try and cheese the queue system for everyone to get in the same match?

Would love some clarification on this. If so, I'd highly encourage advertising this aspect of the group finder tool, as it would be a HUGE win for the BG community.

vingarmo · September 2023

IMHO, jewelry crafting change one of the worst ideas picked among random suggestion.

Sure, it’s nice to gold any set with little or no effort to try out new build, but the consequences for that ease is way deeper than that. Long term though it’ll completely destroy whole niche in trading, making what once was a good goldmaking method pretty much obsolete and dragging a few others along the way.

Golden vendor would probably take the hardest hit as it doesnt matter of what kind of price rebalancing there is, waiting for specific set to safe 30-50k gold is not worth it, it’s also not worth to buy or resell anything with low profits and it completely eliminate all the value from previously bought jewelry. AP value and motivation to PvP would go down as the result. Leaderboard rewards would also become more meaningless than they already are. Even more sets become devalued and worthless (why buy mother sorrow when you could gold orders wrath). More importantly, the value of gold itself would be even more diminished as there are even fewer things to buy with it and fewer reasons to engage in trading or grinding at all and that’s on top of elimination of crown trading, one of the main motivation to farm gold for endgamers.

Frankly, with this update I don’t even know why am I even trading anymore as options to spend that gold get taken away with nothing to replace them with.

Rishikesa108 · September 2023

Hello, all good, but two questions.

1) what about our jewelry grains ? we will have no more grains, but platings... yes. What about existing grains ??? Will they be transformed into platings or will they be deleted from our crafting bags?

2) will we have jewelry hirelings too? they are strongly desired and needed !!!

@ZOS_Kevin