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Tyrant_Tim

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Hello, all good, but two questions.

1) what about our jewelry grains ? we will have no more grains, but platings... yes. What about existing grains ??? Will they be transformed into platings or will they be deleted from our crafting bags?

2) will we have jewelry hirelings too? they are strongly desired and needed !!!

@ZOS_Kevin

Yes, all grains will be converted to platings.
It was mentioned on stream.

SkaiFaith

Happy about Jewelry! Nice change.

Mixed feelings about Endless Archive: most things are good but I hoped we'd have revisited locations instead of staying in Apocrypha all the time. Also, it felt maybe too long to complete an Arc (?) Everything else about it is cool.

Really happy for Custom Group Finder! We'll finally be able to complete Direfrost Keep as "solo" players! I'll take whoever happens on board just to fill the sticker-book as a duo + companions XD

Master Crafting Stations are welcome but I'll probably never use them, playing solo.

I'll add that having more events celebrated worldwide in Tamriel altering the ambience would be pretty imo, a welcome revamp.

All in all, good job! And thanks. Keep good things coming, pleeease~

alternatelder

Arthtur wrote: »

So new class sets if anyone is curious:

DK

Basalt-Blood Wariorr
2p magicka reg
3p max health
4p WD/SD
5p Casting an Earthern Heart ability grants you a Basalt-Blooded Warrior buff for 20s, 20s CD. While on your Front bar you gain Molten Stance, granting you Major Heroism and Minor Heroism, generating 4 ultimate every 1.5s. While you are on your Back Bar you gain Obsidian Stance, increasing your Healing Done and Damage Shields by 14%

Warden

Gardener of Seasons
2p 4% healing Done
3p magicka regen
4p WD/SD
5p Casting a Green Balance ability gives you Herald of Spring, causing your Green Balance overheals to apply Minor Heroism for 3 second. Casting 2 non-Green Balance class abilities within 2 seconds consumes Herald of Spring and gives you Harbringer of Fall for 10s, causing your Green Balance overheals to create an 8m area for 5s, applying Major Maim to enemies and Minor Vitality to allies. You can create an area once every 5s.

Sorcerer

Monolith of Storms
2p critical chance
3p WD/SD
4p WD/SD
5p Dealing damage with a Storm Calling abilities' initial hit or every 5th tick, creates a Monolith near the enemy for 10s, up to 1 per s. You may have up to 3 Monoliths at the time. Monoliths link to your other Monoliths within 28m of each other, each link dealing 3817 Shock damage every 2s to enemies between and near them. An enemy can only take damage from this set once every 2s

Arcanist

Reawakened Hierophant
2p max magicka
3p max magicka
4p max magicka
5p Casting a non-Ultimate Curative Runeform ability grants an effect for 6s to your affected allies based on how many crux you had.
1 Crux - 3618 damage shield
2 Crux - Minor Heroism
3 Crux - Major Protection

Necromancer

Nobility in Decay
2p max health
3p 4% healing taken
4p max health
5p Casting a Bone Tyrant ability while in combat grants you Beautiful Corpse, Minor Protection and Minor Resolve for 16s. 20s CD reduced by 2s for each Bone Tyrant ability slotted.
Casting a Corpse Consuming ability consumes Beautiful Corpse treating you as a corpse

NB

Soulcleaver
2p WD/SD
3p Max magicka
4p WD/SD
5p While in combat with at least 20 ultimate, strengthen your Siphoning abilities at the cost of Ultimate:
Increase the Damage and Healing of Siphoning abilities by 17% of your current ultimate, up to 200, from the minimum of 3% to a maximum of 34%. Reduce the cost of Siphoning abilities by 15%. Casting a Siphoning ability drains you of 1% of your current ultimate, with a minimum of 1.

Templar

Wrathsun
2p WD/SD
3p Critical chance
4p WD/SD
5p When you deal damage with Dawn's Wrath ability, you gain a stack of Sunlight for 10s, once per attack. You can have 50 stacks max and gain 12 magicka regen per stack. When at max stacks, your Dawn's Wrath abilities deal 25% bonus damage and a Wrathful Nova is cast on the enemy, but u cannot refresh Sunlight. When Sunlight expires at max stacks you lose 50% of your current magicka

They look geared for only certain builds. Warden set is a healer build, do they not want a frost Warden to exist?

Tyrant_Tim

alternatelder wrote: »

Arthtur wrote: »

So new class sets if anyone is curious:

DK

Basalt-Blood Wariorr
2p magicka reg
3p max health
4p WD/SD
5p Casting an Earthern Heart ability grants you a Basalt-Blooded Warrior buff for 20s, 20s CD. While on your Front bar you gain Molten Stance, granting you Major Heroism and Minor Heroism, generating 4 ultimate every 1.5s. While you are on your Back Bar you gain Obsidian Stance, increasing your Healing Done and Damage Shields by 14%

Warden

Gardener of Seasons
2p 4% healing Done
3p magicka regen
4p WD/SD
5p Casting a Green Balance ability gives you Herald of Spring, causing your Green Balance overheals to apply Minor Heroism for 3 second. Casting 2 non-Green Balance class abilities within 2 seconds consumes Herald of Spring and gives you Harbringer of Fall for 10s, causing your Green Balance overheals to create an 8m area for 5s, applying Major Maim to enemies and Minor Vitality to allies. You can create an area once every 5s.

Sorcerer

Monolith of Storms
2p critical chance
3p WD/SD
4p WD/SD
5p Dealing damage with a Storm Calling abilities' initial hit or every 5th tick, creates a Monolith near the enemy for 10s, up to 1 per s. You may have up to 3 Monoliths at the time. Monoliths link to your other Monoliths within 28m of each other, each link dealing 3817 Shock damage every 2s to enemies between and near them. An enemy can only take damage from this set once every 2s

Arcanist

Reawakened Hierophant
2p max magicka
3p max magicka
4p max magicka
5p Casting a non-Ultimate Curative Runeform ability grants an effect for 6s to your affected allies based on how many crux you had.
1 Crux - 3618 damage shield
2 Crux - Minor Heroism
3 Crux - Major Protection

Necromancer

Nobility in Decay
2p max health
3p 4% healing taken
4p max health
5p Casting a Bone Tyrant ability while in combat grants you Beautiful Corpse, Minor Protection and Minor Resolve for 16s. 20s CD reduced by 2s for each Bone Tyrant ability slotted.
Casting a Corpse Consuming ability consumes Beautiful Corpse treating you as a corpse

NB

Soulcleaver
2p WD/SD
3p Max magicka
4p WD/SD
5p While in combat with at least 20 ultimate, strengthen your Siphoning abilities at the cost of Ultimate:
Increase the Damage and Healing of Siphoning abilities by 17% of your current ultimate, up to 200, from the minimum of 3% to a maximum of 34%. Reduce the cost of Siphoning abilities by 15%. Casting a Siphoning ability drains you of 1% of your current ultimate, with a minimum of 1.

Templar

Wrathsun
2p WD/SD
3p Critical chance
4p WD/SD
5p When you deal damage with Dawn's Wrath ability, you gain a stack of Sunlight for 10s, once per attack. You can have 50 stacks max and gain 12 magicka regen per stack. When at max stacks, your Dawn's Wrath abilities deal 25% bonus damage and a Wrathful Nova is cast on the enemy, but u cannot refresh Sunlight. When Sunlight expires at max stacks you lose 50% of your current magicka

They look geared for only certain builds. Warden set is a healer build, do they not want a frost Warden to exist?

During the stream, it was announced that the first lineup of class sets were only the beginning, and that at the very least we can expect another 2 sets per class to go with the the other class skill lines at a later time.

When the Winter’s Embrace set comes out, there is a strong likelihood that it will focus on mitigation, control, or damage, like the actual skill line.

RaddlemanNumber7

I don't like the jewellery change. Getting enough platings has provided me with a challenge, and with the rewarding feelings I get when I succeed at that challenge. The change will eliminate those things for me. I'll have so many platings I just won't have to try anymore.

TaSheen

@Rishikesa108 - Each grain becomes a plating; each plating becomes 10 platings.

Jaraal

laniakea_0 wrote: »

@Jaraal how would you get stuck in combat if you have to kill all enemies anyway?

You must be new. I've been stuck in combat without ever using a weapon or casting a skill before. On multiple occasions.

laniakea_0

Jaraal wrote: »

laniakea_0 wrote: »

@Jaraal how would you get stuck in combat if you have to kill all enemies anyway?

You must be new. I've been stuck in combat without ever using a weapon or casting a skill before. On multiple occasions.

I have played the game since December 2017. I only ever encountered this in situations where I respawned during an ongoing encounters. e.g. Dragons in Elsweyr or in Cyrodiil. but I don't recall ever encountering it after everything was dead.

Tornaad

I am really looking forward to the infinite dungeon.

DrNukenstein

There is the DK class set, which appears to be universally useful for any dk (though not necessarily BIS) then there are all the other class sets.

They range from being niche to bizarre.

-Warden class set is team healer set. It is for healing yourself and other people. Nothing else. That's not all that wardens do

-Sorc set is a complex tether maze. Whether or not it's good depends on the tool tip, whether or not it's good it's going to add a ton of visual effects to any fight that it's used in

-Necro set has potential especially in PVP by letting them self cast corpse skills. It's versatility is destroyed by being all survivability bonuses

-Arcanist set is an underwhelming support set.

-Nightblade set allows you to spend ultimate to make swallow soul hit hard, and boost healing at a huge opportunity cost... no ultimates... no Balorgh

-Templar set, once you get to 50 stacks it looks amazing. 50 stacks is a lot of stacks especially if you get one 10 second stack per dawns wrath skill.

There's still time. These are a huge thing to decide to include in the game. You can scrap it, or make the sets more broadly useful for their classes, viewing the dk set as the standard.

gariondavey

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

It was a little unclear when discussed in the stream.

Does the new Custom Group Finder allow for full, 12-man BG lobbies? I.e., can my guild finally have pre-made nights without having to try and cheese the queue system for everyone to get in the same match?

Would love some clarification on this. If so, I'd highly encourage advertising this aspect of the group finder tool, as it would be a HUGE win for the BG community.

@ZOS_Kevin could you please answer this?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1925408444?t=6760s

"Anything you can imagine"

markulrich1966

I would categorize the changes as "nice to have", not as "must have".
A "must have" would be to revert several damage nerfs.
After all classes suffered from nerfs within the last years, I "converted" them to HA builds, but with the changes to lightning staves in U39 even this playstyle is no longer fun for me.
So for now I prefer a commando build with handmade and Nuka-grenades, and see no benefit for me in those changes.
In case some nerfs get reverted somewhen, I might enjoy ESOs combat again, and then be happy about the "nice to have" features. But they are not enough to bring me back for now.

ZOS_Kevin

gariondavey wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

It was a little unclear when discussed in the stream.

Does the new Custom Group Finder allow for full, 12-man BG lobbies? I.e., can my guild finally have pre-made nights without having to try and cheese the queue system for everyone to get in the same match?

Would love some clarification on this. If so, I'd highly encourage advertising this aspect of the group finder tool, as it would be a HUGE win for the BG community.

@ZOS_Kevin could you please answer this?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1925408444?t=6760s

Unfortunately, no. The group finder only helps to form the group participating in the activity. Once the group is formed, the queuing for the activity functions as normal. The custom option helps you to create groups for activities not defined in the provided list of activities, or set up a group for activities without a player count restriction.

So it's not creating a private lobby nor overriding how an activity function. So in this case, the group finder will help you to gather three other teammates for your 4-person team. Then you would queue like normal into BG matches. If you to use customs to group up 12 people and then queue for BG, the queue will tell you there are too many in the group.

Elvenheart

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

First, it was a breath of fresh air to see the enthusiasm that your team has for the new content, and the follow-up with Deltia afterward was perfect. My number one question when I first saw the sets, was whether they would have weight variations, and that question was luckily answered within that follow-up interview.

Just curious, what was the answer? 😊

TaSheen

Elvenheart wrote: »

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

First, it was a breath of fresh air to see the enthusiasm that your team has for the new content, and the follow-up with Deltia afterward was perfect. My number one question when I first saw the sets, was whether they would have weight variations, and that question was luckily answered within that follow-up interview.

Just curious, what was the answer? 😊

I read in some other thread that these were just the first ones, there would be three sets for each class. Not sure where that was now, sorry!

CameraBeardThePirate

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

It was a little unclear when discussed in the stream.

Does the new Custom Group Finder allow for full, 12-man BG lobbies? I.e., can my guild finally have pre-made nights without having to try and cheese the queue system for everyone to get in the same match?

Would love some clarification on this. If so, I'd highly encourage advertising this aspect of the group finder tool, as it would be a HUGE win for the BG community.

@ZOS_Kevin could you please answer this?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1925408444?t=6760s

Unfortunately, no. The group finder only helps to form the group participating in the activity. Once the group is formed, the queuing for the activity functions as normal. The custom option helps you to create groups for activities not defined in the provided list of activities, or set up a group for activities without a player count restriction.

So it's not creating a private lobby nor overriding how an activity function. So in this case, the group finder will help you to gather three other teammates for your 4-person team. Then you would queue like normal into BG matches. If you to use customs to group up 12 people and then queue for BG, the queue will tell you there are too many in the group.

In that case, please pass on the feedback to the team that adding an option for full custom lobbies would be beloved by many!

Finedaible

DrNukenstein wrote: »

There is the DK class set, which appears to be universally useful for any dk (though not necessarily BIS) then there are all the other class sets.

They range from being niche to bizarre.

-Warden class set is team healer set. It is for healing yourself and other people. Nothing else. That's not all that wardens do

-Sorc set is a complex tether maze. Whether or not it's good depends on the tool tip, whether or not it's good it's going to add a ton of visual effects to any fight that it's used in

-Necro set has potential especially in PVP by letting them self cast corpse skills. It's versatility is destroyed by being all survivability bonuses

-Arcanist set is an underwhelming support set.

-Nightblade set allows you to spend ultimate to make swallow soul hit hard, and boost healing at a huge opportunity cost... no ultimates... no Balorgh

-Templar set, once you get to 50 stacks it looks amazing. 50 stacks is a lot of stacks especially if you get one 10 second stack per dawns wrath skill.

There's still time. These are a huge thing to decide to include in the game. You can scrap it, or make the sets more broadly useful for their classes, viewing the dk set as the standard.

Yeah I feel like the sets were the most underwhelming part about the reveal, and DK was the only standout... unsurprisingly.

The update has very interesting potential, but so far I don't see why I should play it yet.

Finedaible

I was hoping for another PvE source of Transmute stones too tbh.

disintegr8

I'd like to know if the Jewelry master writs will be modified in light of the platings changes?

Their writ voucher values were significantly increased to match the hefty price of platings needed to create them and I'd like to know whether there are plans to bring them down again.

Necrotech_Master

disintegr8 wrote: »

I'd like to know if the Jewelry master writs will be modified in light of the platings changes?

Their writ voucher values were significantly increased to match the hefty price of platings needed to create them and I'd like to know whether there are plans to bring them down again.

jewelry master writs are being updated

i believe going forward there will be no blue jewelry writs (not sure what they are going to do to existing blue jewelry writs, but i assuming their writ value will be rebalanced)

disintegr8

Finedaible wrote: »

I was hoping for another PvE source of Transmute stones too tbh.

I didn't realize until recently that I can do a random daily dungeon on multiple characters for 10 transmutes per first run per character. I've been doing them on 8 characters a day during the Undaunted event and gone from 3 transmutes to 500 in only 6 days.

I could take all 19 characters through but 8 is about where my patience runs out.

lillybit

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

I'd like to know if the Jewelry master writs will be modified in light of the platings changes?

Their writ voucher values were significantly increased to match the hefty price of platings needed to create them and I'd like to know whether there are plans to bring them down again.

jewelry master writs are being updated

i believe going forward there will be no blue jewelry writs (not sure what they are going to do to existing blue jewelry writs, but i assuming their writ value will be rebalanced)

This is the one thing I'm really waiting for news on. When writs were rebalanced last time and massively increased in value, existing ones weren't touched and made effectively worthless, so seems a bit mean if they change them all this time

TaSheen

lillybit wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

I'd like to know if the Jewelry master writs will be modified in light of the platings changes?

Their writ voucher values were significantly increased to match the hefty price of platings needed to create them and I'd like to know whether there are plans to bring them down again.

jewelry master writs are being updated

i believe going forward there will be no blue jewelry writs (not sure what they are going to do to existing blue jewelry writs, but i assuming their writ value will be rebalanced)

This is the one thing I'm really waiting for news on. When writs were rebalanced last time and massively increased in value, existing ones weren't touched and made effectively worthless, so seems a bit mean if they change them all this time

Yes. I really want to know before I just throw up my hands and get rid of the blue ones on my mains. I'm silly - I can't stand to delete them (unless they require the more expensive traits - because that just makes them too expensive to bother with).... and with 6 mains (3 accounts both PC megaservers) I have a LOT of blue writs....

Jaraal

laniakea_0 wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

laniakea_0 wrote: »

@Jaraal how would you get stuck in combat if you have to kill all enemies anyway?

You must be new. I've been stuck in combat without ever using a weapon or casting a skill before. On multiple occasions.

I have played the game since December 2017. I only ever encountered this in situations where I respawned during an ongoing encounters. e.g. Dragons in Elsweyr or in Cyrodiil. but I don't recall ever encountering it after everything was dead.

Are you saying that everything in the Endless Archive has to be killed before you can advance? That is unprecedented. You can bypass trash mobs in the last 10 years worth of content, which can be helpful when mobs get stuck in walls, fall through floors, summon you into ceilings, and so forth.

If what you say is true, and just a single trash mob being stuck in a wall can bring an end to your hours worth of grinding because you are unable to kill it, then I predict some very unhappy players running this content in the near future. Especially since ZOS removed workarounds that have been used since the beginning.

gariondavey

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

It was a little unclear when discussed in the stream.

Does the new Custom Group Finder allow for full, 12-man BG lobbies? I.e., can my guild finally have pre-made nights without having to try and cheese the queue system for everyone to get in the same match?

Would love some clarification on this. If so, I'd highly encourage advertising this aspect of the group finder tool, as it would be a HUGE win for the BG community.

@ZOS_Kevin could you please answer this?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1925408444?t=6760s

Unfortunately, no. The group finder only helps to form the group participating in the activity. Once the group is formed, the queuing for the activity functions as normal. The custom option helps you to create groups for activities not defined in the provided list of activities, or set up a group for activities without a player count restriction.

So it's not creating a private lobby nor overriding how an activity function. So in this case, the group finder will help you to gather three other teammates for your 4-person team. Then you would queue like normal into BG matches. If you to use customs to group up 12 people and then queue for BG, the queue will tell you there are too many in the group.

Thanks @ZOS_Kevin. As Camera said, please pass on the feedback that the ability to have a custom bg lobby would revolutionize the bg system and draw back many players who have left. The bg community shrunk by about 75 percent in 2018/2019 from my observations, and then again in half or so back in 2021. Many left because they couldn't group for bgs (this was the case at one point), couldn't choose their game mode, and others because it is so dang hard to get 3 teams into a bg.
We will have 3 teams of 4 in queue and sit there for 45 minutes sometimes and it won't pop. Or we get 2 of our teams in and the 3rd team is random players who avoid combat and end the game in 3 minutes.
We would love to be able to avoid teams like that and play against other teams who want to fight. Because we can't choose our game mode, this would be a solution. The other solution would be to add a "deathmatch group queue" option, and not allow it to pull from the "random group queue" option that currently exists.
Please pass this all on. I really really hope the devs and owners will throw us small scale pvpers a bone.
Thanks.

Arthtur

TaSheen wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

I'd like to know if the Jewelry master writs will be modified in light of the platings changes?

Their writ voucher values were significantly increased to match the hefty price of platings needed to create them and I'd like to know whether there are plans to bring them down again.

jewelry master writs are being updated

i believe going forward there will be no blue jewelry writs (not sure what they are going to do to existing blue jewelry writs, but i assuming their writ value will be rebalanced)

This is the one thing I'm really waiting for news on. When writs were rebalanced last time and massively increased in value, existing ones weren't touched and made effectively worthless, so seems a bit mean if they change them all this time

Yes. I really want to know before I just throw up my hands and get rid of the blue ones on my mains. I'm silly - I can't stand to delete them (unless they require the more expensive traits - because that just makes them too expensive to bother with).... and with 6 mains (3 accounts both PC megaservers) I have a LOT of blue writs....

They shouldnt do anything about existing master writs. Few times when they fixed "bugged" writs that were giving 0 vouchers as a reward they only changed new ones and old ones stayed the same. They werent deleted or changed. I still have 1 Master Writ like that in my collection.
Like imagine, if u would want to "rebalance" existing writs it would be a massive amount of work as u would have to change every single one manually. It just isnt worth it. Some ppl will benefit from this a lot but its not enough to have a big impact on the market. Like 1-2 days of Zenithar event would have a bigger impact. So its just not worth an effort.

So just wait for the U40 and enjoy some very good Master Writs.

Tyrant_Tim

Elvenheart wrote: »

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

First, it was a breath of fresh air to see the enthusiasm that your team has for the new content, and the follow-up with Deltia afterward was perfect. My number one question when I first saw the sets, was whether they would have weight variations, and that question was luckily answered within that follow-up interview.

Just curious, what was the answer? 😊

When asked, Mike Finnigan replied to Deltia with a confirmation that the sets can be obtained in any weight, for example, a medium and heavy armor version of the new Templar set could be obtained.

Finedaible

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

Elvenheart wrote: »

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

First, it was a breath of fresh air to see the enthusiasm that your team has for the new content, and the follow-up with Deltia afterward was perfect. My number one question when I first saw the sets, was whether they would have weight variations, and that question was luckily answered within that follow-up interview.

Just curious, what was the answer? 😊

When asked, Mike Finnigan replied to Deltia with a confirmation that the sets can be obtained in any weight, for example, a medium and heavy armor version of the new Templar set could be obtained.

I'm not sure if that is better or worse really. That would drastically increase drop RNG.

Tigertron

Hey Kevin. I’m excited for it to drop but I can’t be the only Stamblade that feels kicked to the curb. I hope the sets will include us in the future.

itsfatbass

Anybody know what happens to those of us who already have all current 77 crafted sets in our house? Will there be an item we can purchase from Writ Voucher vendor that we can then FEED our 4x stations into? I really hope I don't have to just completely re-farm 77 item sets again