Your Experience with U35?

UnabashedlyHonest · August 2022

As a templar main U35 has been game breaking for me. I started my free trial of a competing MMO today as a result.

SilverBride · August 2022

Tandor wrote: »

...it would seem that despite the initial forebodings these changes don't actually have any significant impact on overland content anyway, other than in respect of the new animations. It doesn't seem now that increasing the overland difficulty level was part of the reasoning behind these changes which were presumably intended to narrow the gap between the difficulty levels and tone down the over-powered stuff.

I don't think increasing overland difficulty was why they made these changes, but I do think that it may have been a factor in why they did it the way they did.

They could have just lowered the ceiling and not touched lower level players. But in light of the numerous complaints about how easy overland is even for a level 3 ungeared player they may have thought why not make it easier and just make the changes across the board, because who would it hurt?

Crismac · August 2022

Mesite wrote: »

I'd love to take part in this discussion but the patch won't verify. Stuck at 21% after several attempts. Looks like I'll have to reinstall the game this weekend.

Even your computer doesn't want to install this patch. It's telling you something. Listen to it.

Treselegant · August 2022

I'm not happy having to double bar pets for my sorc to do any damage now. The flapping and bouncing about from the pets really bothers my eyes after a while. Then having to keep Daedric Prey up all the time is a real chore. I was able to run normal base dungeons alright but when I tried a dlc one I was dead to mobs within minutes. It's just hassle, a lot of hassle.

Blinx · August 2022

Solo Breton Mag Warden CP 240-wearing 5 pieces mothers sorrow and spinners(green and blue quality of all kinds of mismatched triats because I'm po' on pc):

Delves, and overland felt pretty much the same to me, in public dungeon I was questioning myself if it was same as it was before, or slightly harder.

In Arx Corinium it def felt harder, and took me longer than before to complete, it was noticeable to me on Ganakton, and then the Songstress boss, but for some reason tho I thought Sellistrix was easier to kill then those 2 (I skipped the Matron, and Lurcher)

Jazraena · August 2022

After having experimented with a few more of my chars...

I'm honestly without words. My Stamblade is fine. Less damage, but fine. No big change needed. Could do better with Concealed Weapon / Twisting Path, but I refuse, but that's on me. My Sorc Tank switched back from my Dark Convergence setup to a previous one and works well enough.

My petless Magsorc after some tweaking (and getting her gear upgrades) is good enough again for what I want to do, which is Vet Dungeons, though frankly I'm handicapping myself because I refuse to follow the Pet Meta that ZOS seems hellbent on forcing onto me.

My Necro is unusable trash due to a variety of changes hitting my niche build. But, I have a plan for that one which I expect to solve those issues to, again, go for vet dungeons; even though it will require replacing everything aside the monster set and a complete skill reshuffle.

My StamDK and my Hybrid (mostly Stam) DK... well, they work. But they feel clunky because my Durations are all over the place. It's +30% effort for -20% DPS. It's annoying, and I'm not sure how to solve it right now. Or if I even should, given we're likely to encounter plentiful adjustments in the coming patches still.

My MagDK would work, except I can't sustain split cost Molten Whip very well, I definitely have to replace Elf Bane (nobody needs a 29s Searing Strike let alone sacrifice a 5piece to extend it from 24 to 29) and all the issues mentioned for the other DKs apply as well. No idea where I'm going here, and I honestly bristle at the thought of going for Force Pulse instead, so it'll probably turn into another hybrid. Ironic - we wanted a useful stam spammable for so long, and now we're lacking a mag spammable instead; AKA we have neither.

And my Templars and Wardens?

Relegated to uselessness. No idea where to even begin. Same goes for my attempt at a weapons only Redguard that was only borderline viable before.

TLDR, most of my roster is just shattered or annoying in some form, and for most I don't even have a plan, and am hesistant to make the wide sweeping changes to them they'd need in expectation of the next round of adjustments.

So really.

Was this worth it?

FeedbackOnly · August 2022

Alexsae wrote: »

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

8 pages per day. And almost no one wrote about their experience of completing pve content. Only opinions... The thread went a bit wrong.

I didn't write about my pve experience because after an hour or so testing the nerfs, my friends and I logged. We had no desire to continue playing last night.

Because fun was missing

DP99 · August 2022

KnightsMentor wrote: »

I really hate the changes to Jabbs and Flurry animations. Other than that, not terrible.

Flurry on NB sucks! And, it's not a spamable as it was, absolutely horrible and a big disappointment. The animation is stupid too. Other than that, I can't say anything negative about anything else.

MidniteOwl1913 · August 2022

SilverBride wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

...it would seem that despite the initial forebodings these changes don't actually have any significant impact on overland content anyway, other than in respect of the new animations. It doesn't seem now that increasing the overland difficulty level was part of the reasoning behind these changes which were presumably intended to narrow the gap between the difficulty levels and tone down the over-powered stuff.

I don't think increasing overland difficulty was why they made these changes, but I do think that it may have been a factor in why they did it the way they did.

They could have just lowered the ceiling and not touched lower level players. But in light of the numerous complaints about how easy overland is even for a level 3 ungeared player they may have thought why not make it easier and just make the changes across the board, because who would it hurt?

WHo would it hurt? Me for one. I don't do overland content so much as go thru overland content. I go thru it to scry, to hunt down clues, to pick pockets, to open safeboxes, to stab innocent NPCs with my blade of woe. I do the occasional anchor and most world bosses that I stumble across, but mostly I'm just passing thru. So making overland trash take longer cuts into the things I'm actually interested in, so even if I have no trouble with overland making it take longer hurts me.

heaven13 · August 2022

SilverBride wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

There were countless threads complaining that overland was too easy [...] , then a 129 page pinned thread on the topic. In this thread most of those wanting a more difficult overland agreed that they would be happy with a debuff as one possible solution. That is basically what U35 is.

Now Overland may be better, but vetContent is extremely hard.
Some guy wrote, he did VMA in 45mins before, now it takes almost 80 mins.

Is it that what people wanted? Certainly NOT.

Personally, as a mediocre player, I stuggled with vetVateshran, but I could barely do it.
Now, I am not able to finish it anymore. It is not accessible for me anymore.

I've seen zero difference in overland or the normal dungeons I've solo'd so far. I don't participate in veteran content so I can't speak to that. But I can see how this may have been a factor.

Saying ZoS did this for the people wanting harder overland is the same as people saying ZoS made AwA for the people wanting accountwide achievements. It’s a narrative that completely misses the mark for both: yes, people wanted harder overland; they got bullet sponges and harder vet dungeon/trial/arena content just like yes, people wanted global achievements; they got all their character history wiped and a one-and-done experience.

I know where you sat in the latter, try to view this through the same lens.

Lleith · August 2022

My account renewed on the 18th. If I had waited to play the new patch first, I certainly would have let my account expire and not renewed it. I went into Cyrodil to conduct an experiment using the same gear and spell setup that I was using pre 35.
I encountered some of the same players that I had killed pretty easily the night before but post patch was hardly able to damage them at all. Templar dps has most definitely taken a hit and I must admit that the desire to rework everything to get back to where I was just isn't there. It was my bad for renewing without playing the patch first. Lesson learned, I won't do that again. Now I just have to decide whether I want to continue to play till my membership runs out. It has been cancelled.

Vahndamme · August 2022

This game is not for fun. Like fun is not allowed here. That's obvious because they drain all the fun, patch after patch and this one might be the nail in the coffin for many.

I'm already back on WoW enjoying my time there. Also logging into ESO till my ESO+ runs out. Then I'll take a long break from whatever they made 'not fun' , basically everything except overland questing.

SilverBride · August 2022

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think increasing overland difficulty was why they made these changes, but I do think that it may have been a factor in why they did it the way they did.

They could have just lowered the ceiling and not touched lower level players. But in light of the numerous complaints about how easy overland is even for a level 3 ungeared player they may have thought why not make it easier and just make the changes across the board, because who would it hurt?

WHo would it hurt? Me for one. I don't do overland content so much as go thru overland content. I go thru it to scry, to hunt down clues, to pick pockets, to open safeboxes, to stab innocent NPCs with my blade of woe. I do the occasional anchor and most world bosses that I stumble across, but mostly I'm just passing thru. So making overland trash take longer cuts into the things I'm actually interested in, so even if I have no trouble with overland making it take longer hurts me.

I'm not agreeing with how this was done. I was just trying to find a reason why they chose to do it the way they did.

Regardless, I haven't noticed any change in my characters' performance so far.

spartaxoxo · August 2022

Riptide wrote: »

It is….interesting. If you followed the thread in question, you will see that “powerful” players who desire a challenge in questing almost universally, without exception, immediately agree with making what they desire be optional.

After my experiences in that thread, I used to believe that. And now, I no longer do. I personally came away with the impression that the number of people willing to be honest and admit that they don't actually care if it's optional is below the number of people who do actually care if it's optional. There was a ton of hostility towards anyone who said it was fine as long as it was optional, and their opinions were consistently falsely labeled as opposed to overland difficulty options even though they only opposed a particular solution and said from the very beginning that they supported vet overland options.

I know that was my experience, despite supporting debuffs from before the thread existed and being one of the very earliest supporters of challenge banners.

I think that a lot of times when someone opposes group consensus, not just on overland and U35 but with this game in general they are dismissed as toxic and their arguments are strawmanned into something more easily defeated and represented as merely toxicity.

I think toxic elitists and toxic casuals certainly exist. But liking U35 and thinking people are overreacting to it isn't toxicity. It's a different opinion. Or thinking that the reason that devs botched it was because of elite gameplay (when nerfs, were in fact targeted towards bringing down the ceiling) isn't toxic. People are allowed to disagree with groups or believe developers nerfs we're targeting specific groups of players based off the devs statements that they were trying to accomplish a nerf to specific player activity.

barney2525 · August 2022

Unified_Gaming wrote: »

AzuraFan wrote: »

I don't use combat dummies or anything, so I can only say how combat in overland feels after the changes.

My bow/bow warden: didn't notice much of a difference. Takes about the same amount of time to kill mobs. Maybe a tad longer, but not enough to get excited about.

My stamina templar: Same. I play 100% in first person but switched to third to check out the new jabs animation everyone is complaining about. Didn't really see a problem with it, but as I said, I don't play in third person.

I'll try my frost warden later.

It didn't feel that my DPS had increased in any way. It's the same or a tad lower.

Is appears that the 3s/9s change to shalks didn't go through. Mine are still firing at 3s/3s and the tooltip says the same. I use Subterranean Assault. I'm glad they decided to ditch the change.

The change went through. Subject assault fires 3s and 6s. Deep fissure is 3s and 9s. This makes magicka wardens iffy especially in pvp.

Yeah. Assault is pointless on mobs. Second strike hits well after all enemies are dead.

renne · August 2022

Sarannah wrote: »

At the top of this forum there is a thread asking for harder overland/content... ZOS nerfs players, so everything is harder. And now that isn't good either. ZOS literally can't win. The issue is, barely anyone wants things to actually be harder, as harder just means more tedious, as some already mentioned above. ( Note: I'm against harder content! )

Harder doesn't actually mean "more tedious", though. Nerfing damage to make enemies bullet sponges hasn't made the game harder for the people who want a vet overland experience, it's just made it more tedious. The only people it will have made it harder for is the people who already find it difficult.

Someone like me who used to be an endgame raider taking more time to kill overland mobs because my damage was nerfed has not made the content a single shred harder for me, it's just made it take longer. And that's boring.

FeedbackOnly · August 2022

heaven13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

There were countless threads complaining that overland was too easy [...] , then a 129 page pinned thread on the topic. In this thread most of those wanting a more difficult overland agreed that they would be happy with a debuff as one possible solution. That is basically what U35 is.

Now Overland may be better, but vetContent is extremely hard.
Some guy wrote, he did VMA in 45mins before, now it takes almost 80 mins.

Is it that what people wanted? Certainly NOT.

Personally, as a mediocre player, I stuggled with vetVateshran, but I could barely do it.
Now, I am not able to finish it anymore. It is not accessible for me anymore.

I've seen zero difference in overland or the normal dungeons I've solo'd so far. I don't participate in veteran content so I can't speak to that. But I can see how this may have been a factor.

Saying ZoS did this for the people wanting harder overland is the same as people saying ZoS made AwA for the people wanting accountwide achievements. It’s a narrative that completely misses the mark for both: yes, people wanted harder overland; they got bullet sponges and harder vet dungeon/trial/arena content just like yes, people wanted global achievements; they got all their character history wiped and a one-and-done experience.

I know where you sat in the latter, try to view this through the same lens.

Harder doesn't equal fun. I remember beta experience we didn't like dying to murcrabs

spartaxoxo · August 2022

renne wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

At the top of this forum there is a thread asking for harder overland/content... ZOS nerfs players, so everything is harder. And now that isn't good either. ZOS literally can't win. The issue is, barely anyone wants things to actually be harder, as harder just means more tedious, as some already mentioned above. ( Note: I'm against harder content! )

Harder doesn't actually mean "more tedious", though. Nerfing damage to make enemies bullet sponges hasn't made the game harder for the people who want a vet overland experience, it's just made it more tedious. The only people it will have made it harder for is the people who already find it difficult.

Someone like me who used to be an endgame raider taking more time to kill overland mobs because my damage was nerfed has not made the content a single shred harder for me, it's just made it take longer. And that's boring.

Yeah in order for this to work, the enemies have to also deal significantly more damage (either because players take more damage or because enemies deal more damage), otherwise they aren't anymore of a threat than they were before. I do think enemies living long enough to monologue without you having to afk is a potential upside.

spartaxoxo · August 2022

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think increasing overland difficulty was why they made these changes, but I do think that it may have been a factor in why they did it the way they did.

I personally doubt it was a factor at all. I think they were focused on two things, getting mid-tier players into vet content to alleviate the walls they were hitting and bringing down the damage of the elite players. Unfortunately, those goals are in direct competition and the result was a highly botched patch. Personally, that's how I view it. They keep wanting to increase access to content without making that content any easier for players to do, and that is just such a conflicting goal.

I think they need to pick a lane, personally. I think most of us are sick and tired of all these massive changes that keep having to take place because of their conflicting goals. They need to either let vet content be inaccessible and stop nerfing vets. Or they need to accept people are gonna mostly clear with easier builds/or nerf the content at it's pain points.

All these massive changes that keep being done that don't change the status quo and just make the game less and less fun to play are just exhausting. They need to make a decision about how they want group content to go and stop undermining it.

AzuraFan · August 2022

I ran my three favourite characters through normal FG1 to see how the changes feel in a dungeon. I did this because I rarely use my backbars when doing overland. I do use my backbars in dungeons. Everyone used Bastian as the companion and did not buff with any food. The results weren't what I expected.

My bow/bow stamina warden: felt pretty much the same as pre-patch.

My stamina templar: felt weak. I didn't notice this while doing overland. In the dungeon, she took longer to kill bosses and struggled with her resource pools.

My frost (magicka) warden: The biggest surprise. Tore through the dungeon and had the fastest completion time. No problem at all with her resource pools. Don't get me wrong. She didn't kill bosses in 3s flat. But she did way better than the templar, which is a change, and felt stronger than my stamina warden.

My frost warden felt stronger, but my templar felt weak. Mixed bag. Fortunately my main, the bow/bow warden, felt pretty much the same.

heaven13 · August 2022

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

There were countless threads complaining that overland was too easy [...] , then a 129 page pinned thread on the topic. In this thread most of those wanting a more difficult overland agreed that they would be happy with a debuff as one possible solution. That is basically what U35 is.

Now Overland may be better, but vetContent is extremely hard.
Some guy wrote, he did VMA in 45mins before, now it takes almost 80 mins.

Is it that what people wanted? Certainly NOT.

Personally, as a mediocre player, I stuggled with vetVateshran, but I could barely do it.
Now, I am not able to finish it anymore. It is not accessible for me anymore.

I've seen zero difference in overland or the normal dungeons I've solo'd so far. I don't participate in veteran content so I can't speak to that. But I can see how this may have been a factor.

Saying ZoS did this for the people wanting harder overland is the same as people saying ZoS made AwA for the people wanting accountwide achievements. It’s a narrative that completely misses the mark for both: yes, people wanted harder overland; they got bullet sponges and harder vet dungeon/trial/arena content just like yes, people wanted global achievements; they got all their character history wiped and a one-and-done experience.

I know where you sat in the latter, try to view this through the same lens.

Harder doesn't equal fun. I remember beta experience we didn't like dying to murcrabs

Oh, I absolutely agree. Granted, I do like a challenge but I don't think it's 100% necessary and shouldn't be a required thing. My point here is that even if ZoS did come out and say "sure, people wanted harder overland and U35 was created just for them!" we'd all know it was BS because this does not accomplish what people wanted, just like AwA didn't accomplish what most people wanted out of accountwide achievements.

spartaxoxo · August 2022

heaven13 wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

There were countless threads complaining that overland was too easy [...] , then a 129 page pinned thread on the topic. In this thread most of those wanting a more difficult overland agreed that they would be happy with a debuff as one possible solution. That is basically what U35 is.

Now Overland may be better, but vetContent is extremely hard.
Some guy wrote, he did VMA in 45mins before, now it takes almost 80 mins.

Is it that what people wanted? Certainly NOT.

Personally, as a mediocre player, I stuggled with vetVateshran, but I could barely do it.
Now, I am not able to finish it anymore. It is not accessible for me anymore.

I've seen zero difference in overland or the normal dungeons I've solo'd so far. I don't participate in veteran content so I can't speak to that. But I can see how this may have been a factor.

Saying ZoS did this for the people wanting harder overland is the same as people saying ZoS made AwA for the people wanting accountwide achievements. It’s a narrative that completely misses the mark for both: yes, people wanted harder overland; they got bullet sponges and harder vet dungeon/trial/arena content just like yes, people wanted global achievements; they got all their character history wiped and a one-and-done experience.

I know where you sat in the latter, try to view this through the same lens.

Harder doesn't equal fun. I remember beta experience we didn't like dying to murcrabs

Oh, I absolutely agree. Granted, I do like a challenge but I don't think it's 100% necessary and shouldn't be a required thing. My point here is that even if ZoS did come out and say "sure, people wanted harder overland and U35 was created just for them!" we'd all know it was BS because this does not accomplish what people wanted, just like AwA didn't accomplish what most people wanted out of accountwide achievements.

I mean something can be intended for a group, and a failure. The two things don't negate the other. I've burnt food that I tried to cook for someone before because I got distracted. It doesn't change that when I put the food in the oven, the intention was serve it to them.

In the case of AWA, I think the devs implemented the change for people who wanted it as a secondary reason. And their primary reason was probably to keep the game performant in the future (I'm assuming this was for consoles and low-end PCs personally).

keykeykey · August 2022

Aside from the terrible jab animation and having to retune all my characters for the 60th time, everything is going s w e l l

wolfie1.0. · August 2022

i hate that flurry animation is now the exact same as consecutive light attacks. making it harder to visually tell when the channel ends for the skill.

wolfie1.0. · August 2022

spartaxoxo wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

There were countless threads complaining that overland was too easy [...] , then a 129 page pinned thread on the topic. In this thread most of those wanting a more difficult overland agreed that they would be happy with a debuff as one possible solution. That is basically what U35 is.

Now Overland may be better, but vetContent is extremely hard.
Some guy wrote, he did VMA in 45mins before, now it takes almost 80 mins.

Is it that what people wanted? Certainly NOT.

Personally, as a mediocre player, I stuggled with vetVateshran, but I could barely do it.
Now, I am not able to finish it anymore. It is not accessible for me anymore.

I've seen zero difference in overland or the normal dungeons I've solo'd so far. I don't participate in veteran content so I can't speak to that. But I can see how this may have been a factor.

Saying ZoS did this for the people wanting harder overland is the same as people saying ZoS made AwA for the people wanting accountwide achievements. It’s a narrative that completely misses the mark for both: yes, people wanted harder overland; they got bullet sponges and harder vet dungeon/trial/arena content just like yes, people wanted global achievements; they got all their character history wiped and a one-and-done experience.

I know where you sat in the latter, try to view this through the same lens.

Harder doesn't equal fun. I remember beta experience we didn't like dying to murcrabs

Oh, I absolutely agree. Granted, I do like a challenge but I don't think it's 100% necessary and shouldn't be a required thing. My point here is that even if ZoS did come out and say "sure, people wanted harder overland and U35 was created just for them!" we'd all know it was BS because this does not accomplish what people wanted, just like AwA didn't accomplish what most people wanted out of accountwide achievements.

I mean something can be intended for a group, and a failure. The two things don't negate the other. I've burnt food that I tried to cook for someone before because I got distracted. It doesn't change that when I put the food in the oven, the intention was serve it to them.

In the case of AWA, I think the devs implemented the change for people who wanted it as a secondary reason. And their primary reason was probably to keep the game performant in the future (I'm assuming this was for consoles and low-end PCs personally).

which begs the question: at what point ,if any, should ESO stop supporting older consoles and raise minimum PC requirements? Especially if holding onto said support is preventing useful development?

or another question is this: Have all of the numerous combat changes over the years and coding involved gotten to the point that it needs to be simplified and nerfed simply because the calculations and coding got so complex that it needs to be re optimized?

Riptide · August 2022

or another question is this: Have all of the numerous combat changes over the years and coding involved gotten to the point that it needs to be simplified and nerfed simply because the calculations and coding got so complex that it needs to be re optimized?

I mean that is why dot durations were raised. Any number of ways to simplify rotations but consider, what stands still for 20 seconds besides the rare boss that you need to whack on, besides a dummy? Overland/normal stuff is dead in a few seconds, and you have to move/redeploy. Does very little for “accessibility”.

But if a dot ticks every two seconds rather than every second, multiplied by how many dots you use, by many thousands of players - and it becomes clear it was at least largely aimed at server performance, if not almost entirely.

Nemeliom · August 2022

I may put ESO on hold until I see an interesting pvp video.

I used to love pvp. Now everyone takes time to kill. DOTs are useless (and they used to be bad). Light attack is useless. And soon everyone will be running Maras Balm, so more unkillable.

Thanks for making this one of the worst DLCs I ever played on ESO.

edit: I think I get it now... they made the worst possible experience so everyone goes play that horrible card game that no one asked for.

Nemeliom · August 2022

Riptide wrote: »

or another question is this: Have all of the numerous combat changes over the years and coding involved gotten to the point that it needs to be simplified and nerfed simply because the calculations and coding got so complex that it needs to be re optimized?

I mean that is why dot durations were raised. Any number of ways to simplify rotations but consider, what stands still for 20 seconds besides the rare boss that you need to whack on, besides a dummy? Overland/normal stuff is dead in a few seconds, and you have to move/redeploy. Does very little for “accessibility”.

But if a dot ticks every two seconds rather than every second, multiplied by how many dots you use, by many thousands of players - and it becomes clear it was at least largely aimed at server performance, if not almost entirely.

They will probably achieve the server performance. Once there are 10 people playing the game I'm sure the servers will work fine.

fizzylu · August 2022

renne wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

At the top of this forum there is a thread asking for harder overland/content... ZOS nerfs players, so everything is harder. And now that isn't good either. ZOS literally can't win. The issue is, barely anyone wants things to actually be harder, as harder just means more tedious, as some already mentioned above. ( Note: I'm against harder content! )

Harder doesn't actually mean "more tedious", though. Nerfing damage to make enemies bullet sponges hasn't made the game harder for the people who want a vet overland experience, it's just made it more tedious. The only people it will have made it harder for is the people who already find it difficult.

Someone like me who used to be an endgame raider taking more time to kill overland mobs because my damage was nerfed has not made the content a single shred harder for me, it's just made it take longer. And that's boring.

Yeah, call me crazy.... but when I think of players saying "the game is too easy", the word that comes to mind is "unchallenging" and I don't think nerfing said players is the way to go.... but instead making enemies more dangerous and more of a, well, challenge is. Make them hit harder, the game has dodging and blocking; make using those features important even outside of tanking and pvp.
I've been getting back into New World for two weeks now and I love that I can't just recklessly pull a giant group of mobs and melt them down because they can and have killed me. I also love that there are dangerous mini bosses where if I'm not reading their mechanics, blocking, dodging, or using well timed cc's.... they can DEFINITELY kill me haha and there's usually a nice little treasure chest that actually feels rewarding to loot after. Like seriously, I think ESO has some of the worst drops I've seen in an MMO. It's usually all just vendor trash.
But obviously not everyone would like such changes and this patch was apparently about "accessibility" so harder mobs would go against that.... BUT lowering everyone's damage, making abilities useless, forcing people to change their playstyle and all the other questionable changes Zenimax made and did with this patch should never be the answer. Not only has ZOS made it their mission to destroy mag sorcs over the years and succeeded, but there is so much content in ESO I already didn't consider worth doing.... and now with people saying it's taking them 2-3 times longer to do arenas and the like hahahahaaaa yeah, I'm going to have to pass. The game just feels tedious (not hard or challenging), unrewarding, and just the thought of continuing to support Zenimax with my time and money actually kills me a little inside

IZZEFlameLash · August 2022

Arwin wrote: »

kringled_1 wrote: »

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

It's really good. It reeled in high end damage to lower the ceiling, and buffed the low end to raise the floor. accessibility.

Where do you see buffs to the low end in all of the U35 changes, outside of the statement of intent? Looking for specifics.

People on the low end who aren't managing to get decent results can now use empower and heavy attack builds to have semi-decent damage. Not competitive of course, but it shouldn't be.

If lower end players thought to build around current Empower, they'd already have a build prior to this patch.