That is surprising they weren't mentioned, at least for ones without quests, like Adoring Admirer. Are they even aware of those bugs? I assume the easiest "fix" would be to give them the same treatment as museum achievements, since there's only a few.The Q&A has been posted. On the main sub-forum. The thread is locked.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/598865/
No mention about how NPCs react to your alts or other quests that are tied to achievements in the Q&A? That should have been addressed! @ZOS_GinaBruno
SilverBride wrote: »Loading screen speed is an important factor in PvP. Loading into a keep before it's flagged, camps, & moving around map in general. I've lost count how many times a cluster of players have been blow-up at a keep shrine or camp before they had control of their character.
So this was their fix for PvP performance? I agree that is an issue that needs resolved but not at the cost of everyone else.
If this is their fix for PVP performance, it is yet another reason for pve players to really have hard feelings about pvp. The pvp players who use toons to play because they really don't need characters to kill other players [trash-talk, insults, and tea-bagging optional], who may not see any purpose in creating "characters" are a higher priority than the pve players who play their characters, not their accounts. Nice to know. Rather regretting pre-ordering the next piece now, and the extra crowns.
I think it will help to improve performance - but I fear not in the way ZOS thinks it does. Viewing this as a pessimist I predict, that Update 33 is the beginning of the end of ESO. Shortly after its 10th anniversary it will be shut down, since lots of veterans will turn their backs and others will just spin around the dolmens in Alik'r to get LVL50 as fast as possible and then go to PvP - no need to buy chapters, crowns or subscriptions.SilverBride wrote: »I hope you realize that you just killed replayability and the only way many of your playerbase plays the game? Sure maybe (and it is a maybe) it will help performance (which is almost exclusively in Cyrodiil) but at what cost?
I'd like to say that's wrong - but currently I feel these five words are the ones I have to agree the most in this whole thread!SilverBride wrote: »You just killed your game.
Q: Are there plans to track individual character progression or identifying which character completed an achievement first?
A: Completed achievements will display the name of the character that first completed the achievement, as well as the date it was first completed. The initial account achievement merging process takes this into account and will auto-update the achievement to display the earliest completion date and character. Tracking individual character progression nullifies the database improvements that Account Wide Achievements bring and isn’t something we can implement without losing those benefits.
BladedMischief wrote: »This is honestly such a slap in the face. A role playing game shouldn’t have account wide achievements. Characters are individuals. You’re taking that away with this. Makes new characters pointless. Makes role playing pointless. This isn’t a role playing game anymore with this update. I don’t want the same achievements on all my characters. Why? THEY’RE INDIVIDUALS. They’re not the same! Their achievements are their own!
This update has lost me.
I loved ESO. I really did. Spent hundreds maybe nearing a thousand over the years. Thanks for slapping us in the face with this and making stuff pointless. Role playing in ESO kept me grounded, kept me safe and distracted.
No incentive remains to even try and do quests or earn anything anymore. You’re taking so much away from the game. So much away from roleplayers.
While I love getting account wide achievements I'm seeing lots of peeps who are unhappy about it.
Would it be possible to make a tab for character and one tab for account achievements so peeps can track which character did a certain achievement? Or make a note on that achievement if it was done on that char or on the account?
Otherwise I like this change!
What's next on the chopping block, I wonder?this surprisingly isn’t the largest footprint of player generated data.
silvereyes wrote: »What's next on the chopping block, I wonder?this surprisingly isn’t the largest footprint of player generated data.
If I had to guess from prior dev comments, probably guild history. An MMO doesn't need informative guild management tools, right?
This probably kills any hope of getting more housing slots in the future, too.
Thanks! I've just read it. Well, ZOS didn't disappointed me in the least; just yesterday I was saying...The Q&A has been posted. On the main sub-forum. The thread is locked.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/598865/
CrystalExarch wrote: »I'm afraid, no answers until it will be already too late for a reaction. This is when their Q&A will come out, I presume, to say a few words justifying the decision they took for the community against a big part of the community.
BladedMischief wrote: »This is honestly such a slap in the face. A role playing game shouldn’t have account wide achievements. Characters are individuals. You’re taking that away with this. Makes new characters pointless. Makes role playing pointless. This isn’t a role playing game anymore with this update. I don’t want the same achievements on all my characters. Why? THEY’RE INDIVIDUALS. They’re not the same! Their achievements are their own!
This update has lost me.
I loved ESO. I really did. Spent hundreds maybe nearing a thousand over the years. Thanks for slapping us in the face with this and making stuff pointless. Role playing in ESO kept me grounded, kept me safe and distracted.
No incentive remains to even try and do quests or earn anything anymore. You’re taking so much away from the game. So much away from roleplayers.
Personally, I will happily continue roleplaying since some random game interface piece doesn't interfere with it whatsoever.
Every RP community I am in contact with is largely positive as well, so, sorry to hear you don't like it - but don't presume you speak for roleplayers as a whole. Most of us are quite content.
skyrimfantasy wrote: »For the achievements no longer character specific - why do we even need the name of which character accomplished it? Why not just list a date that you received it on the account? There is no point in saying which character was the one to log in when you crossed the threshold when it gains nothing for that specific character.
If it were minor, it wouldn't be a target. Lots of data is being deleted, and that's by design. Whether one actually used that data or not will color their reaction to the change immensely.ESO: removes a minor system to improve performance and to modernize the game.
Daww. Thank you for the kind words.@code65536 @silvereyes I do honestly hope this isn't enough to drive you out of the game,while I do disagree on a lot of things with you two it would be a terrible loss for the community to see you go, if that is your decision however, I respect it and wish you all the best, your add-ons helped me a lot in my time in ESO, for that I thank you.
silvereyes wrote: »Once the achievement is complete, the game no longer raises events for achievement progression that an addon needs. And if the addon didn't back up progress from before U33 goes live, it wouldn't help in any case, because all historical progression is getting melted into the same pot, with no nametags on which characters contributed what.IldaraFathryon wrote: »Not sure which stage of grief this is going to correspond to, but is there/are there any addons we can install prior to release of the update that might preserve some of the functionality in terms of character-based achievement logging even after the real ones are merged?
Speaking of which: does anyone want to maintain my addons? I doubt I'm going to feel particularly motivated to continue adding compatibility for updates I don't plan to play:
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/author-20381.html
The API and guild history tab provide data back for 10 days. I doubt they will completely remove it, but I can easily imagine them reducing it to only one or two days. They've cut it before. It used to be 30 days. I think it was only 5 on EU, when the servers started melting after the Greymoor release.silvereyes wrote: »What's next on the chopping block, I wonder?this surprisingly isn’t the largest footprint of player generated data.
If I had to guess from prior dev comments, probably guild history. An MMO doesn't need informative guild management tools, right?
This probably kills any hope of getting more housing slots in the future, too.
Do you know how far back they store that data?
BladedMischief wrote: »BladedMischief wrote: »This is honestly such a slap in the face. A role playing game shouldn’t have account wide achievements. Characters are individuals. You’re taking that away with this. Makes new characters pointless. Makes role playing pointless. This isn’t a role playing game anymore with this update. I don’t want the same achievements on all my characters. Why? THEY’RE INDIVIDUALS. They’re not the same! Their achievements are their own!
This update has lost me.
I loved ESO. I really did. Spent hundreds maybe nearing a thousand over the years. Thanks for slapping us in the face with this and making stuff pointless. Role playing in ESO kept me grounded, kept me safe and distracted.
No incentive remains to even try and do quests or earn anything anymore. You’re taking so much away from the game. So much away from roleplayers.
Personally, I will happily continue roleplaying since some random game interface piece doesn't interfere with it whatsoever.
Every RP community I am in contact with is largely positive as well, so, sorry to hear you don't like it - but don't presume you speak for roleplayers as a whole. Most of us are quite content.
I never even assumed/presumed that. I'm speaking from MY experience/point of view, and that of my friends who I've spoken to regarding this update.
This is my opinion too, and again, my experience and feelings on it. I'm entitled to my opinion, and to feel the way I do.
I can feel this way. I can feel as though my characters have had their individuality stripped with this. As ESO says, "Play your way" This is MY way.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »The Q&A has been posted. On the main sub-forum. The thread is locked.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/598865/
That's it? After two weeks?
Performance? That tired old sloth of an excuse that we get every time only to relog and discover the game is even slower and still full of lag and desynchs?
LOL.
No thanks.
I see final fantasy has a free month trial running....