They should just change it back to 24. The change to 12 did nothing to improve performance and it just made it harder to find groups.

I'm actually a fan of the 12. It makes things a bit easier to manage the group. This of course doesent stop the lag/performance issues plaguing PvP seemingly forever.

Thevampirenight wrote: »

No here is the thing, even though you might not have felt it having it reduced to 12, reduces number of calculations when it comes to certain abilities and armor sets. Because its likely not to target as many people. Things would be even worse then before most likely if they jumped the size up to 36. No they need to keep the group limit to twelve for good. If you want a group if there is many people asking for one then form your own. Take charge and help your fellow players get a group. 12 is plenty for group size.

Not only did Zos specifically state that the changes were because they liked our behavior with smaller groups and such, they clearly distanced the smaller groups from any performance benefits seen in testing.

So while I agree that we will not see 36 man groups in Cyrodiil, it is for very different reasons than what is presented here as it had nothing to do with server calculations.

JamieAubrey wrote: »

4,8,12,24,36,200

Doesn't matter the group size, those AOE spamming ball groups will still be the problem

Yep. People don't realize that every time they push a key, it sends a request to the server. That guy jumping up and down while waiting for the fight to start... he is adding unnecessary requests to the server queue. The people spamming single target buffs every few seconds so that they are at max time if attacked= loading up the server queue. The ones in which it affects others, more requests for the server to process.

They already are spamming the server and taxing the processors before any fighting actually begins. Then they can't figure out why it takes a dump so fast as soon as something happens. And of course we have the biggest zone in the game with multiple objectives that can be taken by any team( most of the time) yet we all dogpile the same keep so we can farm AP and then complain about performance issues.

While player behavior is a huge contributor to their own performance issue, some of this is on ZoS as well. The amount of buffs and the trivial time they are active multiplied by the ability to spam refresh them because of no CD leads to the type of behavior which causes unnecessary server load by people spamming buffs that are powerful but last mere seconds. Not having a CD and making the buffs short term does nothing but unnecessarily increase server load. While the general rule in most games is that short buffs are meant to be powerful but need to be timed( like an ultimate) to get the best effect out of them. So having short buffs AND no CD on them serves no purpose but to make the servers cry.

This of course is most evident in PVP when the amount of animated objects( characters) and effects( everything spam) create an issue that is extremely taxing on the players system as well as the server. This is one of the major underlying performance issue of PVP in general in this game. It could be corrected by redoing these short term buffs to make them longer and to have a CD as the current system does nothing but create a congested mess for every system involved.