@ZakyUchiha, thanks for such detailed explaination. Now I get it.ZakyUchiha wrote: »I'm just going to post the top comment from the vid, since you guys do not understand what's happening and it is pretty accurate.
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It is totally broken mechanic exploiting mist form+ bat swarm
PVP = Griefers period, its the way they luv to play, its their whole, game. Yes it ruins the game for others, but its the way they enjoy the game. They don't play the PVE side, they will use any and all exploits they find, that is PVP. No one will ever change that.
PVP = Griefers period, its the way they luv to play, its their whole, game. Yes it ruins the game for others, but its the way they enjoy the game. They don't play the PVE side, they will use any and all exploits they find, that is PVP. No one will ever change that.
South_of_Heaven wrote: »PVP = Griefers period, its the way they luv to play, its their whole, game. Yes it ruins the game for others, but its the way they enjoy the game. They don't play the PVE side, they will use any and all exploits they find, that is PVP. No one will ever change that.
PVP is the work of the devil I tell you! Evil criminal scum of society gathered to torture one another and enjoy making others' lives miserable! Yea! You never see PvPers in PVE - they stay away from it because they cannot satisfy their sadistic desires there. It's really sad, what can you say.
Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Its apparent OP needs to L2P. Silver Bolts or any flame attack will pretty much one shot vamps
The game will be balanced out....in my opinion vamps aren't OP and if you think they are....spec in the fighters guild tree. Get silver bolts or something and use fire spells, or add fire damage to your weapon.....like if your a dragonknight use ardent flame....stop whining over game mechanics because your character cannot beat the theirs the game is broken.....LOL
Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Its apparent OP needs to L2P. Silver Bolts or any flame attack will pretty much one shot vamps
the op is a zerg of 50 people getting pwned by one player, use your brain a little thanks..
it's like people saying "oh but vamps are sensitive to fire, just nuke him with fire"
you have no idea what the hell we're talking about.
This is Cyrodiil pvp where one man takes down 50, anyone thinking that isn't broken needs his brain checked.
The game will be balanced out....in my opinion vamps aren't OP and if you think they are....spec in the fighters guild tree. Get silver bolts or something and use fire spells, or add fire damage to your weapon.....like if your a dragonknight use ardent flame....stop whining over game mechanics because your character cannot beat the theirs the game is broken.....LOL
ZakyUchiha wrote: »I'm just going to post the top comment from the vid, since you guys do not understand what's happening and it is pretty accurate.
You lot who are saying that Emperors are supposed to be strong dont really get what is going on here
What you see in this video is the guy playing the current empress exploiting unintended mechanic that only works if a player meets certain requirements:
1) being a stage 4 vampire (60% spell cost reduction affecting ultimate ability!)
2) having a morphed vampiric self-healing ultimate ability
3) being a sorc or a dragon knight ( ultimate cost reduction passives)
4) having a specific armor set that also reduce ultimate cost
5) having a mist form
6) being an emperor
Now what is happening actually?
In short, if a player meets these requirements he can have ultimate ability cost reduced to 4 , even 0 in some cases. What does it mean? It means he can spam extremely strong self healing ability INDEFINITELY doing huge amount of damage
What;s worse. He can turn into a mist form that has 75% damage reduction AND receive ultimate self healing from the bat swarm which is not supposed to happen based on how the mist form works. A vampire in a mist form CANT get healing. BUT they missed that it doesn't affect ultimate ability bat swarm.
The thing is. The more people around the empress the more invulnerable she is.
We managed to kill her one time when she was alone avoiding being close to her , keeping distance and it took 50+ players. BUT it is IMPOSSIBLE to do if she is with her own group.
It is totally broken mechanic exploiting mist form+ bat swarm
Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »First I doubt it was 50. And second did not one of them have fire attacks or silver bolts? See its a L2P issue
Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Its apparent OP needs to L2P. Silver Bolts or any flame attack will pretty much one shot vamps
the op is a zerg of 50 people getting pwned by one player, use your brain a little thanks..
it's like people saying "oh but vamps are sensitive to fire, just nuke him with fire"
you have no idea what the hell we're talking about.
This is Cyrodiil pvp where one man takes down 50, anyone thinking that isn't broken needs his brain checked.
It isn't broken....all 50 of you need to L2P.
starkerealm wrote: »The game will be balanced out....in my opinion vamps aren't OP and if you think they are....spec in the fighters guild tree. Get silver bolts or something and use fire spells, or add fire damage to your weapon.....like if your a dragonknight use ardent flame....stop whining over game mechanics because your character cannot beat the theirs the game is broken.....LOL
Hmm... one sec, sorry, I need to borrow this:ZakyUchiha wrote: »I'm just going to post the top comment from the vid, since you guys do not understand what's happening and it is pretty accurate.
You lot who are saying that Emperors are supposed to be strong dont really get what is going on here
What you see in this video is the guy playing the current empress exploiting unintended mechanic that only works if a player meets certain requirements:
1) being a stage 4 vampire (60% spell cost reduction affecting ultimate ability!)
2) having a morphed vampiric self-healing ultimate ability
3) being a sorc or a dragon knight ( ultimate cost reduction passives)
4) having a specific armor set that also reduce ultimate cost
5) having a mist form
6) being an emperor
Now what is happening actually?
In short, if a player meets these requirements he can have ultimate ability cost reduced to 4 , even 0 in some cases. What does it mean? It means he can spam extremely strong self healing ability INDEFINITELY doing huge amount of damage
What;s worse. He can turn into a mist form that has 75% damage reduction AND receive ultimate self healing from the bat swarm which is not supposed to happen based on how the mist form works. A vampire in a mist form CANT get healing. BUT they missed that it doesn't affect ultimate ability bat swarm.
The thing is. The more people around the empress the more invulnerable she is.
We managed to kill her one time when she was alone avoiding being close to her , keeping distance and it took 50+ players. BUT it is IMPOSSIBLE to do if she is with her own group.
It is totally broken mechanic exploiting mist form+ bat swarm
Yeah... that's kinda what I'd call broken. Not easily broken like, say, Skyrim, but broken, none the less.
starkerealm wrote: »The game will be balanced out....in my opinion vamps aren't OP and if you think they are....spec in the fighters guild tree. Get silver bolts or something and use fire spells, or add fire damage to your weapon.....like if your a dragonknight use ardent flame....stop whining over game mechanics because your character cannot beat the theirs the game is broken.....LOL
Hmm... one sec, sorry, I need to borrow this:ZakyUchiha wrote: »I'm just going to post the top comment from the vid, since you guys do not understand what's happening and it is pretty accurate.
You lot who are saying that Emperors are supposed to be strong dont really get what is going on here
What you see in this video is the guy playing the current empress exploiting unintended mechanic that only works if a player meets certain requirements:
1) being a stage 4 vampire (60% spell cost reduction affecting ultimate ability!)
2) having a morphed vampiric self-healing ultimate ability
3) being a sorc or a dragon knight ( ultimate cost reduction passives)
4) having a specific armor set that also reduce ultimate cost
5) having a mist form
6) being an emperor
Now what is happening actually?
In short, if a player meets these requirements he can have ultimate ability cost reduced to 4 , even 0 in some cases. What does it mean? It means he can spam extremely strong self healing ability INDEFINITELY doing huge amount of damage
What;s worse. He can turn into a mist form that has 75% damage reduction AND receive ultimate self healing from the bat swarm which is not supposed to happen based on how the mist form works. A vampire in a mist form CANT get healing. BUT they missed that it doesn't affect ultimate ability bat swarm.
The thing is. The more people around the empress the more invulnerable she is.
We managed to kill her one time when she was alone avoiding being close to her , keeping distance and it took 50+ players. BUT it is IMPOSSIBLE to do if she is with her own group.
It is totally broken mechanic exploiting mist form+ bat swarm
Yeah... that's kinda what I'd call broken. Not easily broken like, say, Skyrim, but broken, none the less.
1. Skyrim isn't broken
starkerealm wrote: »The game will be balanced out....in my opinion vamps aren't OP and if you think they are....spec in the fighters guild tree. Get silver bolts or something and use fire spells, or add fire damage to your weapon.....like if your a dragonknight use ardent flame....stop whining over game mechanics because your character cannot beat the theirs the game is broken.....LOL
Hmm... one sec, sorry, I need to borrow this:ZakyUchiha wrote: »I'm just going to post the top comment from the vid, since you guys do not understand what's happening and it is pretty accurate.
You lot who are saying that Emperors are supposed to be strong dont really get what is going on here
What you see in this video is the guy playing the current empress exploiting unintended mechanic that only works if a player meets certain requirements:
1) being a stage 4 vampire (60% spell cost reduction affecting ultimate ability!)
2) having a morphed vampiric self-healing ultimate ability
3) being a sorc or a dragon knight ( ultimate cost reduction passives)
4) having a specific armor set that also reduce ultimate cost
5) having a mist form
6) being an emperor
Now what is happening actually?
In short, if a player meets these requirements he can have ultimate ability cost reduced to 4 , even 0 in some cases. What does it mean? It means he can spam extremely strong self healing ability INDEFINITELY doing huge amount of damage
What;s worse. He can turn into a mist form that has 75% damage reduction AND receive ultimate self healing from the bat swarm which is not supposed to happen based on how the mist form works. A vampire in a mist form CANT get healing. BUT they missed that it doesn't affect ultimate ability bat swarm.
The thing is. The more people around the empress the more invulnerable she is.
We managed to kill her one time when she was alone avoiding being close to her , keeping distance and it took 50+ players. BUT it is IMPOSSIBLE to do if she is with her own group.
It is totally broken mechanic exploiting mist form+ bat swarm
Yeah... that's kinda what I'd call broken. Not easily broken like, say, Skyrim, but broken, none the less.
Also would like to add.....I'm vampire speced in the fighter guild tree line to kill other vampires and werewolfs and I kill them all in about 3 seconds.......
PS......mist form is bad and I don't use it. It sucks.
starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »The game will be balanced out....in my opinion vamps aren't OP and if you think they are....spec in the fighters guild tree. Get silver bolts or something and use fire spells, or add fire damage to your weapon.....like if your a dragonknight use ardent flame....stop whining over game mechanics because your character cannot beat the theirs the game is broken.....LOL
Hmm... one sec, sorry, I need to borrow this:ZakyUchiha wrote: »I'm just going to post the top comment from the vid, since you guys do not understand what's happening and it is pretty accurate.
You lot who are saying that Emperors are supposed to be strong dont really get what is going on here
What you see in this video is the guy playing the current empress exploiting unintended mechanic that only works if a player meets certain requirements:
1) being a stage 4 vampire (60% spell cost reduction affecting ultimate ability!)
2) having a morphed vampiric self-healing ultimate ability
3) being a sorc or a dragon knight ( ultimate cost reduction passives)
4) having a specific armor set that also reduce ultimate cost
5) having a mist form
6) being an emperor
Now what is happening actually?
In short, if a player meets these requirements he can have ultimate ability cost reduced to 4 , even 0 in some cases. What does it mean? It means he can spam extremely strong self healing ability INDEFINITELY doing huge amount of damage
What;s worse. He can turn into a mist form that has 75% damage reduction AND receive ultimate self healing from the bat swarm which is not supposed to happen based on how the mist form works. A vampire in a mist form CANT get healing. BUT they missed that it doesn't affect ultimate ability bat swarm.
The thing is. The more people around the empress the more invulnerable she is.
We managed to kill her one time when she was alone avoiding being close to her , keeping distance and it took 50+ players. BUT it is IMPOSSIBLE to do if she is with her own group.
It is totally broken mechanic exploiting mist form+ bat swarm
Yeah... that's kinda what I'd call broken. Not easily broken like, say, Skyrim, but broken, none the less.
Also would like to add.....I'm vampire speced in the fighter guild tree line to kill other vampires and werewolfs and I kill them all in about 3 seconds.......
PS......mist form is bad and I don't use it. It sucks.
The issue isn't that mist form is good. The issue is creating a situation where you have a 4 point ultimate that results in massive healing which also works off enemies in the immediate vicinity.
Watch the Youtube video, it's a vampire emperor getting pounded on, simultaniously, by about 20-30 players and not taking any damage from it. That, is broken.
starkerealm wrote: »1. Skyrim isn't broken
I'm sorry, I got exactly this far before you had me in stitches. Next thing you'll be saying Morrowind isn't broken.
In fairness, skills that can break Skyrim, by themselves. Enchanting, Alchemy, Conjuration, Destruction, Heavy Armor, Sneak, Speech, Smithing, Illusion, and (I'm told) Restoration. (Though, I don't know what the issue with restoration is, exactly, unless it ties back to the Fortify Restoration exploit in Alchemy.) Alteration is a maybe.
And, if that wasn't enough fun for you, a lot of these are symbiotic. The Alchemy issues aren't too bad until you start feeding it into the Enchanting system and everything goes off the rails.
starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »The game will be balanced out....in my opinion vamps aren't OP and if you think they are....spec in the fighters guild tree. Get silver bolts or something and use fire spells, or add fire damage to your weapon.....like if your a dragonknight use ardent flame....stop whining over game mechanics because your character cannot beat the theirs the game is broken.....LOL
Hmm... one sec, sorry, I need to borrow this:ZakyUchiha wrote: »I'm just going to post the top comment from the vid, since you guys do not understand what's happening and it is pretty accurate.
You lot who are saying that Emperors are supposed to be strong dont really get what is going on here
What you see in this video is the guy playing the current empress exploiting unintended mechanic that only works if a player meets certain requirements:
1) being a stage 4 vampire (60% spell cost reduction affecting ultimate ability!)
2) having a morphed vampiric self-healing ultimate ability
3) being a sorc or a dragon knight ( ultimate cost reduction passives)
4) having a specific armor set that also reduce ultimate cost
5) having a mist form
6) being an emperor
Now what is happening actually?
In short, if a player meets these requirements he can have ultimate ability cost reduced to 4 , even 0 in some cases. What does it mean? It means he can spam extremely strong self healing ability INDEFINITELY doing huge amount of damage
What;s worse. He can turn into a mist form that has 75% damage reduction AND receive ultimate self healing from the bat swarm which is not supposed to happen based on how the mist form works. A vampire in a mist form CANT get healing. BUT they missed that it doesn't affect ultimate ability bat swarm.
The thing is. The more people around the empress the more invulnerable she is.
We managed to kill her one time when she was alone avoiding being close to her , keeping distance and it took 50+ players. BUT it is IMPOSSIBLE to do if she is with her own group.
It is totally broken mechanic exploiting mist form+ bat swarm
Yeah... that's kinda what I'd call broken. Not easily broken like, say, Skyrim, but broken, none the less.
Also would like to add.....I'm vampire speced in the fighter guild tree line to kill other vampires and werewolfs and I kill them all in about 3 seconds.......
PS......mist form is bad and I don't use it. It sucks.
The issue isn't that mist form is good. The issue is creating a situation where you have a 4 point ultimate that results in massive healing which also works off enemies in the immediate vicinity.
Watch the Youtube video, it's a vampire emperor getting pounded on, simultaniously, by about 20-30 players and not taking any damage from it. That, is broken.
Hey nice strawman argument but you fail.
That video is of an EMPEROR
BEING A VAMPIRE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AS UNDEATH KICK IN AFTER 50% HEALTH DAMAGE....MEANIGN.
BEING A VAMPIRE HAD NO EFFECT FOR THIS EMPEROR IN THIS VIDEO AT ALL.
I NEVER SEEN THEM USE AN ACTIVE VAMP ABILITY THE ENTIRE VIDEO AND THE PASSIVES FOR VAMPIRE WOULD NOT HELP HERE.
The player was not a vampire.