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ESO = Entropy Soul(trap) Online

  • Mayrael
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    Same player - look at the damage difference. Soul trap as I get it from the tooltip scales of the highest stat so it doesnt matter are you playing stam or magicka. Yeah... Soul trap is completly OP while Blood Craze is completly fine LOL.

    If we are up for nerfing dots, all dots should be nerfed, bleeds, poisons etc. included.

    Ah37ANC.jpg

    Edit:

    Oh and that awesome hint:
    "Have you tried resetting your router?" - amazing ZOS, seriously.

    To me, if someone is using any flurry morph; they're probably running vMA DW to buff the hell outta every single ability on your recap

    Yes, but my point is not to show that DoTs are totally insane but to show that mag dots = stam dots. Because I see quite worrying trend. Many of this forums users play stamina mains and they suddenly can't handle magicka having strong dots so they want to nerf JUST THE MAGICKA dots while leaving their cheese untouched. This is far from being balanced.
    I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.

  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Resolving vigor was buffed 4 a reason, on my stam dk it's critting 4, 4k I having no problems with dots even in outnumbered situations
    Edited by IlCanis_LupuslI on September 9, 2019 6:06AM
    Cp 1490
    Xbox-EU-AD
    Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
    Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
    Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
    Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
    Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Resolving vigor was buffed 4 a reason, on my stam dk it's critting 4, 4k I having no problems with dots even in outnumbered situations

    And on classed that cant cheese up vigor like dks?
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    On stam sorc crit surge, on warden the vines, on templar extended ritual, on nb u can cloak
    Any more questions?
    Cp 1490
    Xbox-EU-AD
    Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
    Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
    Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
    Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
    Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.
  • susmitds
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Resolving vigor was buffed 4 a reason, on my stam dk it's critting 4, 4k I having no problems with dots even in outnumbered situations

    Vigor was buffed to make up for Momentum HoT removal. Previous patch with Momentum HoT, Vigor cross healing+1 sec extra duration, I had more healing power.
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Resolving vigor was buffed 4 a reason, on my stam dk it's critting 4, 4k I having no problems with dots even in outnumbered situations

    Vigor was buffed to make up for Momentum HoT removal. Previous patch with Momentum HoT, Vigor cross healing+1 sec extra duration, I had more healing power.

    For me I'm having more healing power this patch it just involves a bit more effort in constantly keeping up vigor. Expecially when I use cauturize. Uppercut don't hit me that hard the hardest I had in death recap(after getting zerged so I was debuffed like crazy) I was a 6k onslaught and a 4.8k dizzy. Noncof this comes even close to what necros hit me for (9k blast bones granted I had major vounerabikity from the 9k flesh atro x3 I took earlier) that's when I started using corrosive again to counter that
    Necro is the only thing imo that is really broken damage wise. Dots r strong but manageable. Dizzy and onslaught are strong but only when u outnumber your enemy and he can't see the animation through all the fireworks 🎇 that r going on.
    As for magplar... Damage wise not special
    But the survivability is somewhat irritating to fight against -. -
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    Cp 1490
    Xbox-EU-AD
    Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
    Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
    Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
    Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
    Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.
  • Mayrael
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    wheem_ESO wrote: »
    Being able to land a ~6.5k Dizzying Swing from Stealth, followed up by a 9k+ Onslaught with 12 seconds of > 20k armor penetration is 100% A-OK and perfectly balanced. But those dastardly Magicka DOTs that are doing ~1k damage every 2 seconds (when on-demand Major Protection from BRP dual wield isn't up, that is)? Completely unacceptable - nerf immediately!

    And yes, being DOT'd by 3-4 people at once hurts, but it doesn't hurt nearly as bad as being Dizzy spammed by the same numbers.

    You need to stop right now! Stam users are in pain now cause they need to build those ults somehow to 2 shot you! You're being mean!
    I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.

  • FearlessOne_2014
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    Remove all magicka playstyles from the game.
    Hope is Nothing More, than a Postponed Disappointment
  • katorga
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    Don't worry, the stam dots are going to get wrecked next update as well as the mag dots.

    ZOS never adjusts anything, just straight to the wrecking ball.
  • MinarasLaure
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Why not?
    Dot are part of the game, and they finally can be used in PvP.
    You can purge them with a skill accessible to all.
    Slot it.
    The only problem with dots atm is that they stack.
    Dying because of dots in 1v1 is a l2p issue.
  • Cathexis
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    Galarthor wrote: »
    So unless you are spamming Cloak, Dodge, Purge, or Block - or in other words, are a Stamblade, Magblade, Magplar, or Perma-blocker - you are taking significantly more damage than before and have to cope with defensive tools that were not meant for this kind of pressure.

    This is the overarching problem I have with the meta design balance in this game which is that again and again it will flex to hinge class balance on a serious bottleneck where seemingly popular balances are in favour. (Not even looking at the intent)
    Edited by Cathexis on September 11, 2019 4:56PM
    Praise Malacath.
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Why not?
    Dot are part of the game, and they finally can be used in PvP.
    You can purge them with a skill accessible to all.
    Slot it.
    The only problem with dots atm is that they stack.
    Dying because of dots in 1v1 is a l2p issue.

    AW purge is not feasible on a stam toon.
    Not allowing dots to stack is the worst possible thing they can do to the DoT playstyle.

    Why do people even recommend something like that?
  • FearlessOne_2014
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Why not?
    Dot are part of the game, and they finally can be used in PvP.
    You can purge them with a skill accessible to all.
    Slot it.
    The only problem with dots atm is that they stack.
    Dying because of dots in 1v1 is a l2p issue.

    AW purge is not feasible on a stam toon.
    Not allowing dots to stack is the worst possible thing they can do to the DoT playstyle.

    Why do people even recommend something like that?

    Break Free and Dodge Roll is just as feasible on a Mag character. However it's fine that Mag has to deal with it. But soon as Stam has to you and most here cry Bloody Murder.

    LOL

    Anyways ZOS already said they was going to nerf DoTs and MagPlar. So all you Stam guys have to do is wait 2 more months for ultimate Stamina dominance EZ mode to resume.

    I'll just have to do what my buddies have done and ditch ESO. For a Western MMORPG that don't hate on Magical based playstyles and completely gimp them.

    Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs.
    Hope is Nothing More, than a Postponed Disappointment
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Why not?
    Dot are part of the game, and they finally can be used in PvP.
    You can purge them with a skill accessible to all.
    Slot it.
    The only problem with dots atm is that they stack.
    Dying because of dots in 1v1 is a l2p issue.

    AW purge is not feasible on a stam toon.
    Not allowing dots to stack is the worst possible thing they can do to the DoT playstyle.

    Why do people even recommend something like that?

    Break Free and Dodge Roll is just as feasible on a Mag character. However it's fine that Mag has to deal with it. But soon as Stam has to you and most here cry Bloody Murder.

    LOL

    Anyways ZOS already said they was going to nerf DoTs and MagPlar. So all you Stam guys have to do is wait 2 more months for ultimate Stamina dominance EZ mode to resume.

    I'll just have to do what my buddies have done and ditch ESO. For a Western MMORPG that don't hate on Magical based playstyles and completely gimp them.

    Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs.

    When you're done being all over the forums spewing your anti-stam bias you may find time to reckognise the fine difference between "hurr durr, dots op" and "it's not feasible to run purge on stam builds." You might even see that I am not in favor of not letting dots stack.

    "Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs. Dizzy Swing" Or just do what your buddies have done. Your whining is no different than that of those complaining about plars.
    Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on September 11, 2019 7:40PM
  • FearlessOne_2014
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Why not?
    Dot are part of the game, and they finally can be used in PvP.
    You can purge them with a skill accessible to all.
    Slot it.
    The only problem with dots atm is that they stack.
    Dying because of dots in 1v1 is a l2p issue.

    AW purge is not feasible on a stam toon.
    Not allowing dots to stack is the worst possible thing they can do to the DoT playstyle.

    Why do people even recommend something like that?

    Break Free and Dodge Roll is just as feasible on a Mag character. However it's fine that Mag has to deal with it. But soon as Stam has to you and most here cry Bloody Murder.

    LOL

    Anyways ZOS already said they was going to nerf DoTs and MagPlar. So all you Stam guys have to do is wait 2 more months for ultimate Stamina dominance EZ mode to resume.

    I'll just have to do what my buddies have done and ditch ESO. For a Western MMORPG that don't hate on Magical based playstyles and completely gimp them.

    Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs.

    When you're done being all over the forums spewing your anti-stam bias you may find time to reckognise the fine difference between "hurr durr, dots op" and "it's not feasible to run purge on stam builds." You might even see that I am not in favor of not letting dots stack.

    "Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs. Dizzy Swing" Or just do what your buddies have done. Your whining is no different than that of those complaining about plars.

    I have absolutely no issues with counterable DoTs and MagPlars. StamPlar is however like the rest of Stamina builds are on a whole another level than magicka based builds. Watch my proof!





    DoTs and MagPlars are completely easy to counter. Dizzying Swing spammers will eventually land a hit on you, while you are at 3 times the supposed range of the ability than it's lights out. Actually I personally want ZO$ to buff Dizzying Swing so I'll be faced with the choice of clinging to EZ PZ mode kills from a low skill high reward playstyle.


    Also for the hundred time Cloak is beyond Overpowered too, and needs the Streak treatment!
    Edited by FearlessOne_2014 on September 11, 2019 10:42PM
    Hope is Nothing More, than a Postponed Disappointment
  • Sorbin
    Sorbin
    Soul Shriven
    On stam sorc crit surge, on warden the vines, on templar extended ritual, on nb u can cloak
    Any more questions?

    This. Vines + Vigor with Shrooms just in case and I have no problem with all these dots. I mean I still lose fights under heavy dot pressure but it's either a strong player with a strong build or I just *** up the fight. Dots are strong. Burst is strong. Damage is the meta. All these whiners are going to accomplish is *** up and get us back into a tank meta.
  • Sorbin
    Sorbin
    Soul Shriven
    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Why not?
    Dot are part of the game, and they finally can be used in PvP.
    You can purge them with a skill accessible to all.
    Slot it.
    The only problem with dots atm is that they stack.
    Dying because of dots in 1v1 is a l2p issue.

    AW purge is not feasible on a stam toon.
    Not allowing dots to stack is the worst possible thing they can do to the DoT playstyle.

    Why do people even recommend something like that?

    Break Free and Dodge Roll is just as feasible on a Mag character. However it's fine that Mag has to deal with it. But soon as Stam has to you and most here cry Bloody Murder.

    LOL

    Anyways ZOS already said they was going to nerf DoTs and MagPlar. So all you Stam guys have to do is wait 2 more months for ultimate Stamina dominance EZ mode to resume.

    I'll just have to do what my buddies have done and ditch ESO. For a Western MMORPG that don't hate on Magical based playstyles and completely gimp them.

    Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs.

    When you're done being all over the forums spewing your anti-stam bias you may find time to reckognise the fine difference between "hurr durr, dots op" and "it's not feasible to run purge on stam builds." You might even see that I am not in favor of not letting dots stack.

    "Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs. Dizzy Swing" Or just do what your buddies have done. Your whining is no different than that of those complaining about plars.

    I have absolutely no issues with counterable DoTs and MagPlars. StamPlar is however like the rest of Stamina builds are on a whole another level than magicka based builds. Watch my proof!





    DoTs and MagPlars are completely easy to counter. Dizzying Swing spammers will eventually land a hit on you, while you are at 3 times the supposed range of the ability than it's lights out. Actually I personally want ZO$ to buff Dizzying Swing so I'll be faced with the choice of clinging to EZ PZ mode kills from a low skill high reward playstyle.


    Also for the hundred time Cloak is beyond Overpowered too, and needs the Streak treatment!

    LOL imagine using a video of low-MMR BGs filled to the brim with low-CP players to make your case.
  • FearlessOne_2014
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    Sorbin wrote: »
    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Why not?
    Dot are part of the game, and they finally can be used in PvP.
    You can purge them with a skill accessible to all.
    Slot it.
    The only problem with dots atm is that they stack.
    Dying because of dots in 1v1 is a l2p issue.

    AW purge is not feasible on a stam toon.
    Not allowing dots to stack is the worst possible thing they can do to the DoT playstyle.

    Why do people even recommend something like that?

    Break Free and Dodge Roll is just as feasible on a Mag character. However it's fine that Mag has to deal with it. But soon as Stam has to you and most here cry Bloody Murder.

    LOL

    Anyways ZOS already said they was going to nerf DoTs and MagPlar. So all you Stam guys have to do is wait 2 more months for ultimate Stamina dominance EZ mode to resume.

    I'll just have to do what my buddies have done and ditch ESO. For a Western MMORPG that don't hate on Magical based playstyles and completely gimp them.

    Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs.

    When you're done being all over the forums spewing your anti-stam bias you may find time to reckognise the fine difference between "hurr durr, dots op" and "it's not feasible to run purge on stam builds." You might even see that I am not in favor of not letting dots stack.

    "Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs. Dizzy Swing" Or just do what your buddies have done. Your whining is no different than that of those complaining about plars.

    I have absolutely no issues with counterable DoTs and MagPlars. StamPlar is however like the rest of Stamina builds are on a whole another level than magicka based builds. Watch my proof!





    DoTs and MagPlars are completely easy to counter. Dizzying Swing spammers will eventually land a hit on you, while you are at 3 times the supposed range of the ability than it's lights out. Actually I personally want ZO$ to buff Dizzying Swing so I'll be faced with the choice of clinging to EZ PZ mode kills from a low skill high reward playstyle.


    Also for the hundred time Cloak is beyond Overpowered too, and needs the Streak treatment!

    LOL imagine using a video of low-MMR BGs filled to the brim with low-CP players to make your case.

    LOL imagine just talking out your arse with no substance to make your case. >:)
    Hope is Nothing More, than a Postponed Disappointment
  • Sorbin
    Sorbin
    Soul Shriven
    Sorbin wrote: »
    Insco851 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    You left a DoT on you for 7 seconds that did 11,180 damage in that time. Thats 1,597 dps. This is purely a L2P issue.

    If you would have purged just once you could have negated 3 DoTs already applied to you.

    If you want to be a stronger pvp player you will need to use every defensive tactic available to you. Cant just throw up a damage shield or perma dodge roll and all is forgiven. They buffed up purge for a reason. Time to slot it and L2P.

    And if his class doesn’t have a purge? Or is a stambuild? We slotting cleanse now? Forced to run one of the garbage cleanse sets?

    “tImE tO PlAy PlaR”

    Why not?
    Dot are part of the game, and they finally can be used in PvP.
    You can purge them with a skill accessible to all.
    Slot it.
    The only problem with dots atm is that they stack.
    Dying because of dots in 1v1 is a l2p issue.

    AW purge is not feasible on a stam toon.
    Not allowing dots to stack is the worst possible thing they can do to the DoT playstyle.

    Why do people even recommend something like that?

    Break Free and Dodge Roll is just as feasible on a Mag character. However it's fine that Mag has to deal with it. But soon as Stam has to you and most here cry Bloody Murder.

    LOL

    Anyways ZOS already said they was going to nerf DoTs and MagPlar. So all you Stam guys have to do is wait 2 more months for ultimate Stamina dominance EZ mode to resume.

    I'll just have to do what my buddies have done and ditch ESO. For a Western MMORPG that don't hate on Magical based playstyles and completely gimp them.

    Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs.

    When you're done being all over the forums spewing your anti-stam bias you may find time to reckognise the fine difference between "hurr durr, dots op" and "it's not feasible to run purge on stam builds." You might even see that I am not in favor of not letting dots stack.

    "Until then shutup and learn how to fight in this META like the rest of us that's not complaining about MagPlars and DoTs. Dizzy Swing" Or just do what your buddies have done. Your whining is no different than that of those complaining about plars.

    I have absolutely no issues with counterable DoTs and MagPlars. StamPlar is however like the rest of Stamina builds are on a whole another level than magicka based builds. Watch my proof!





    DoTs and MagPlars are completely easy to counter. Dizzying Swing spammers will eventually land a hit on you, while you are at 3 times the supposed range of the ability than it's lights out. Actually I personally want ZO$ to buff Dizzying Swing so I'll be faced with the choice of clinging to EZ PZ mode kills from a low skill high reward playstyle.


    Also for the hundred time Cloak is beyond Overpowered too, and needs the Streak treatment!

    LOL imagine using a video of low-MMR BGs filled to the brim with low-CP players to make your case.

    LOL imagine just talking out your arse with no substance to make your case. >:)

    The case is self-evident to anyone playing this game with any modicum of sense. I've seen high-level players of just about every class that can eat a Dizzy combo from full health and keep fighting while still having great damage. It's entirely possible to achieve this and still have sustain on almost any class to one degree or another.

    And the simple fact of the matter is that high-level players do NOT just eat a Dizzy combo and get insta-wrecked. They just don't. They build for mitigation, for passive healing, for enough stam/sustain to actively defend and they have their own stuns ready to counter when you whiff the Dizzy. It's not anyone else's fault if you're not using all the proper game mechanics to counter burst damage.

    Now, I don't think anyone would disagree whatsoever that Onslaught is undoubtedly overtuned. You could cut the duration of the buff in half and it would still be strong as hell. And clearly the bugginess/range desyncs need to be fixed, but that's no basis for nerfing a skill. This game pings 100+ to basically everybody at all times, they need to sort that *** out.

    The reason you don't see any variety in Stam is because all of the other spammables suck as offensive options. 2H is the only Stam weapon that feels like it's meant for the front bar in PvP and only two classes in the game have decent class spammables. But if you start nerfing things simply for being effective, we wind up right back in the tank meta.

    For what it's worth, I don't think DOTs really need to be nerfed either. I switched to using Chudan on my Warden so I could slot Leeching Vines and still keep all my offensive skills in place and it counters most DOT builds nicely. I still lose to some occasionally, but that's life.
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    Also; just wanted to add; we archers also exist.

    No DS, no onslaught, etc

    And we still can perform well.

    I see lots of talk as if all Stam builds are the same, DS is just popular
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