My favorite flavor of DOTS are the pink ones.

DHale wrote: »

This is the best update in a while (San bugs) as for pvp after my first hour in cyrodil I put 81 points into thick skin and have since changed a little I think 66 I have zero further problems. If you don’t want to change your build then don’t but don’t think the rest of the forum warrior will get any sympathy from actual players. Most of us don’t stand in the rain we buy an umbrella.

PARTY IS OVER DOT META COUNTERED GG GF EZ

DHale wrote: »

This is the best update in a while (San bugs) as for pvp after my first hour in cyrodil I put 81 points into thick skin and have since changed a little I think 66 I have zero further problems. If you don’t want to change your build then don’t but don’t think the rest of the forum warrior will get any sympathy from actual players. Most of us don’t stand in the rain we buy an umbrella.

U know Thick skinned isn't a defense towards dots? but direct damage... And ur cp1200?+

TheRealSniker wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Like Jesus, there’s what? 20 threads about this topic now? ZoS is gonna have a field day

There were 34 actually ))

O h g o d

So when are Zos going to address the issue that dots are overperforming? 34 threads just on the second day of the patch says it all about the state of dots.

Ya screwed me ZoS! I have a hard enough time doing end content without being able to pull 74k . Now Im getting my arse kicked in vet Dungeons.
Im going to go do real end content now and furnish my house....

The pts forum had threads saying the dots where to strong for the entire 4 weeks nothing changed nothing going to change having them on the general discussion devs determined to run the game into the ground

KageNin wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

This is now the official DoT thread. So I'll start by saying I think ZOS needs to buff ranged DoTs

Ye buff all dots who needs melee PvP, let's all just point our long sticks at each other and whoever has most dots on him dies, whoever's dot ticks last get the kill.
Yaay sensible combat.

Melee? lolololololol
Now, it is trash in PvP.

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Can someone post rending slashes tooltip?

stats

blood craze

entropy

Before u start crying, bloodcraze with masters


It doesnt look very balanced for me, without masters there isnt any reason to even compare them, with masters (which is the guilty here), they are kinda comparable, tho still would take ranged dot not bound to any weapon tree, undodgeable and with major sorcery on top over bloodcraze any time

Wow nice I love it and this is the way it should stay Destructive reach and clench got nerfed (while Draining and Magnum Shot is still awesome) because Masters Staff so now Craze is far behind entropy, seems fair to me I think that scaling is made because 4k weapon damage is pretty low when it goes to PvP builds (you can reach it with random gear and be still very effective) for stamina but when it goes to Magicka it's very high Shall we see which tooltip can reach higher numbers on usable build?

of course 4k spell dmg is kinda unrealistic on normal buils, to high. Same with laughable 31k max magicka. U can easily pull 40+k on cp, even 50k if u really spec into it. And dont forget about light armor penetration, which increases actual dmg of those dots. I could also pull higher weapon dmg here on those screenshots, on stamina if would put points into agility. But then those things wouldnt be comparable.

Magnum shot and Draining shot got nerfed too, they lowered range, so u cant get 41m spammer, also cost got increased pretty hard. Both reach and draining range spam was cancer, now they got tuned down, tho master staff needs rework.

The thing is u're so biased vs stam, that u dont really look for actual balance, just "hurr, durr, stamina had bleeds, now magicka should keep broken dots too". Maybe if u would stay out of cloak a bit longer or stay away from ad zergs u would be able to realise how strong current dots are

Someone is mad at me? Oh I can be met very often far from zergs, I just jump where the action is but you can try to see me at Brindle, Carmala, Blast or Drake, Crops very often and COMPLETLY ALONE. Somehow I don't remember I ever saw you alone

But this has nothing to do with the discussion I'm not trying to justify current dots with bleeds being op in the past, I'm just trying to make sure when the nerf will come (and it will come for sure) all dots gonna get nerfed, not only Magicka ones. Somehow during those 2 evenings I was able to see same amount of rending slashes on my recap as entropy and the rest. Even more! Rending as for now has the title of highest damage per tick on my recap (I was not switching any gear during gameplay).

I am concerned about balance, but the real balance, where magicka is as deadly as stamina, where both sides can kill each other. You are more concerned about maintaining status quo (which is not the same as balance), where stamina was on top: for every one magicka char I could see at least 2-3 stamina ones - noCP and except of sorcs ofc.

I don't care when or how dots will get nerfed, but when it will start, I'd like to see ALL dots nerfed, not just the ones that are inconvenient for certain group of people.

Slack wrote: »

In PvP that is ~13k damage over 12 seconds (unmitigated).
When someone does PvP with 15k mag resist (which is pretty low) then it should be mitigating around 20% magic damage.
13k x 0.8 = 10400 /12 = 866 /second

Not even taking target's defensive CP into the calculation.
But I estimate, with this tool tip, you would, on average, do maybe 500 DPS on other players.



Or did I just step into the sarcasm trap

makes you wonder how some sorcs hit Overload with 6-10k per tick for an overall 15-25k damage in a few seconds.....

u killed meduim armor this patch/ dots everywhere

Akagami94 wrote: »

MojaveHeld wrote: »

These DoT buffs were incredibly necessary to compensate for the major dps nerfs in other areas of PvE. So every "Nerf DoTs!" thread that doesn't also contain calls to buff other areas of dps, is pointless and meritless.

competensate for the major dps nerfs in pvE? Almost every dps build can atleast do 60k or more dps on bosses! We do so much dmg now that we complete skip mechanics! is that what u want?

wow really? i need to practice on my dummy at home again....

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

Ya screwed me ZoS! I have a hard enough time doing end content without being able to pull 74k . Now Im getting my arse kicked in vet Dungeons.
Im going to go do real end content now and furnish my house....

DPS hasn't actually changed with this update. You should be pulling the same numbers as before, if not higher.