Incapacitating Strike Silence 5.0.3

CatchMeTrolling · May 2019

Can someone test it and see if it’s only a magicka silence or both magicka and stam ?

seanj87 · May 2019

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Can someone test it and see if it’s only a magicka silence or both magicka and stam ?

even if its both, it doesnt matter, stam can dodge roll way more, tanks can ride it out, but mag classes are just screwed

SubtleHate · May 2019

this is one of the worst balance ideas I have ever seen or heard. This is one of the biggest tone deaf changes I've seen. Possibly the worst change I have ever seen from Zenimax since I have played. Please just no.

olsborg · May 2019

🤯

Revokus · May 2019

The bias for stam against magicka is insane in this game lol.

therift · May 2019

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

therift wrote: »

Looks like the 'Separate PvP and PvE' crowd is finally getting their way, but not in the manner they advocated.

Magicka builds for PvE
Stamina builds for PvP.

I guess that's, um, separated and balanced.

Not really tho since stam is also better in PvE, unless you are playing a mini Trial where mag is easier. In all other Trials stam is stronger with more single target and aoe dps, I guess its actually:

Magicka builds as Banking alts.
Stam for everything else.

+1 for hypering my hyperbole, because I agree.

olesmo · May 2019

How many IQ points do these ppl letting these changes go trough have, this is some next level *** ***.
And I thought I had seen it all when it came to horrible changes from this company.
You can't implement changes like this that give no room for counterplay... Well you did tho.. Reroll everything to stamina -.-

FIX
YOUR
***

getemshauna · May 2019

This can't go live. No counterplay as magicka character.

CatchMeTrolling · May 2019

seanj87 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Can someone test it and see if it’s only a magicka silence or both magicka and stam ?

even if its both, it doesnt matter, stam can dodge roll way more, tanks can ride it out, but mag classes are just screwed

Simply dodge rolling will not save you , I know because of the numerous times I have to do that because my skills aren’t firing off. You’ll just burn your resources and plus you’re fighting the class with the most broken cc in the game to make matters worse.

Regardless, it should be tested.

Surak73 · May 2019

Oh well: if this goes live, in Cyro there will be 95% stam chars, so new incap will be essentially useless...

Razier · May 2019

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Razier wrote: »

This change is absolutely ridiculous and unfounded. They're nerfing the F out of incap, AFTER nerfing the rest of the class. Absolutely absurd and a disgrace. Instead of slowly implementing small nerfs and slowly seeing the change ZoS wants to NB they're going above and beyond to gut the class of it's stand out notoriety and absolutely shafting stamblade PvP. Just another absolutely disgusting decision by ZoS which is KILLING their PvP scene. I'm appalled and disgusted in their decision making. If these changes go through I'll be cancelling my ESO Plus. Thank god I haven't bought Elswyer yet.

Sarcasm?

Small bit. Still very upset about the change. Just being over dramatic.

MartiniDaniels · May 2019

Logic of this change is eluding to me. There is stamblade which is OP on live and there is magblade which almost nobody plays (in PVP). What ZOS should do??? Nerf magblade to the ground and buff stamblade. I mean, really? What's the point to run magblade now at all?

Darlon · May 2019

Hmm, April fools was more than a month ago right ???

jaws343 · May 2019

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

seanj87 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Can someone test it and see if it’s only a magicka silence or both magicka and stam ?

even if its both, it doesnt matter, stam can dodge roll way more, tanks can ride it out, but mag classes are just screwed

Simply dodge rolling will not save you , I know because of the numerous times I have to do that because my skills aren’t firing off. You’ll just burn your resources and plus you’re fighting the class with the most broken cc in the game to make matters worse.

Regardless, it should be tested.

Not to mention, the changes to fear mean you will be cowering in place.

Ariades_swe · May 2019

One incap and any class will be facked if they're more than 2 attackers.
They need to make it cc breakable.

Xvorg · May 2019

Really? People defending this overbuff?

I hope they also increase the cost. 120 ulti for silence is too cheap

WrathOfInnos · May 2019

Sustain is always welcome in PVE, but 3s of silence is going to feel horrible on the receiving end in PVP. May as well just make a skill that causes a 3000 ms ping spike for your opponent.

_Ahala_ · May 2019

Broken

kookster · May 2019

If the silence is not breakable this is seriously beyond broken. I feel for those who play magicka characters.....

Diundriel · May 2019

Looking Forward for my stamblade

all These hate whispers
actually we should be surprised that this new Change does require any dlc^^

Ulfgarde · May 2019

Removes/softens skills/mechanics of PvP that made combat feel like rock, paper, scissors (wings, snares/immobilizes)

Adds an element that would contribute to this idea we just worked towards getting rid of.

just buffing incap at this point lmfao

Hexys · May 2019

This topic has more views then the actual patch notes now lol

ssewallb14_ESO · May 2019

Brokenly OP against magicka (way too disabling for way too long), worst ability in the game in terms of bypassing counterplay, single-handedly offsets magicka/stamina balance in one skill..

ZOS I thought we were done making changes like this? You guys were doing so good this patch up until now.

Brrrofski · May 2019

It will still be super strong against Stam characters. No major or minor mending on DKs or Stamplars, no cleanse on Stamplars, no streak/dark deal on sorc, no cloak on nightblade.

Utterly ridiculous change to the skill. It's way way more powerful than before (if you used incap for the stun you were paying stamblade wrong anyway). The single most stupid change I've ever seen ZOS do.

While we're at it, fix Templar rune so the Stam one works in negate!!!

wheem_ESO · May 2019

While almost all of my PvP is done in Battlegrounds, I was in Cyrodiil a few days ago on my Magicka Warden, partnered up with a buddy on his Magicka DK alt. At one point we ended up 2v2 against a Stamblade + Magblade duo, who were coordinating Ults and CCs. Had this version of Incap been available to them, we would have lost the engagement pretty much immediately, and there would have been no counters. They were both focusing my Magicka Warden the entire time, and Fear -> Incap#1 -> Incap#2 -> Fear would have been a 100% free win for them (not that I would have lived long enough for that second fear to be necessary).

This change is completely absurd, especially since the silence doesn't really do anything to Stamina builds.

WeylandLabs · May 2019

For all the Stam Sorcs looking at this also our arms are wide open to nightblades for embrace as we whisper in your ear. -

"Welcome to the club brother" 😂

We can give therapy - on how to deal with these changes.

We can do a one on one sit down and talk it out.

We don't recommend that you, go crazy on the forums trying to revert this. That will make the ZOS gods upset, as they will keep nerfing you into oblivion.

Also - if you dont kill that person prepare to be forcefully bagged hard.

And remember it's just a game have fun - make a Necro join the new Brotherhood 👍

echo2omega · May 2019

So.

Nightblades have a hard counter to all magicka classes with no counter play...

John_1999 · May 2019

you forgot to give surprise attack a 1000% damage buff against silenced players. @Zeni

Minno · May 2019

Xvorg wrote: »

Really? People defending this overbuff?

I hope they also increase the cost. 120 ulti for silence is too cheap

250 ULT COST

Neoauspex · May 2019

Hahahahaha @ZOS_Gilliam good one. P.S. nerf Templar, why the @#% not.