Sylvermynx wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

JJBoomer wrote: »

these dragonbreak theories have one big hole. the fact that ZOS’s engine/servers in no way can handle multiple instances of the entire game. it can’t even handle one instance of cyro. so multiple versions of the game existing is probably beyond the tech capabilities they have.

This is just cyrodiil, despite the megaserver the PVE zones are in fact instances. They only shard into other instances when so many people are online though. Usually seen during events.

Anytime you ever get a loading screen in just wandering around, this is the game switching you instances.

Or because I have 2000 ms ping....

Well that's a pretty rare circumstance, not something most players will experience outside of Cyrodiil.

JJBoomer wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

JJBoomer wrote: »

these dragonbreak theories have one big hole. the fact that ZOS’s engine/servers in no way can handle multiple instances of the entire game. it can’t even handle one instance of cyro. so multiple versions of the game existing is probably beyond the tech capabilities they have.

This is just cyrodiil, despite the megaserver the PVE zones are in fact instances. They only shard into other instances when so many people are online though. Usually seen during events.

Anytime you ever get a loading screen in just wandering around, this is generally the game switching you instances.

good point, however i still don’t believe their tech could handle basically dragon breaking ESO and creating different versions of all the already existing instances. their tech can barely handle what they have now

I have no idea what you're talking about. Instance literally means that there are multiple verions of it, and ESO has been using them since day one. This includes Cyrodiil, which always had multiple instances running - they're called campaigns.

JJBoomer wrote: »

just some holes in theories:

ESO was officially confirmed by Bethesda (above ZOS/Zeni) to be canon. part of the main, or prime timeline. So ESO itself is definitely not taking place during a dragonbreak.

these dragonbreak theories have one big hole. the fact that ZOS’s engine/servers in no way can handle multiple instances of the entire game. it can’t even handle one instance of cyro. so multiple versions of the game existing is probably beyond the tech capabilities they have.

as for spellcrafting? spell crafting assets were found in the game files before and after summerset was released. the parts are there, just need to be activated. so spellcrafting so far, seems possible.

Yes, ESO is considered canon. Everything that ZOS is doing is part of the Elder Scrolls official lore. While the ES Lore is not all fixed in stone, no one else is going to change details contributed by ZOS if they don't have to. As a matter of fact, many Elder Scrolls fans will probably recognize ESO events in the lore books being written for TES 6.

You are wrong about server technology. Of course the megaserver can handle alternate realities. It does so thousands of times every day. That is the whole point of the megaserver, and that is working pretty well, actually. Most people don't even notice it.

As for spell crafting, ZOS is not going to toss all that work in the trash. There are probably hundreds of hours of concept and development there from when Konkle was running the show. Garrett is going to pick that up, dust it off, and then fast forward it to current. I am sure that the original spell crafting did not have insane player grinds and monetization built into it. That will all have to be added. They cannot release a major new system without throttling it and then making money off of it. What worries me is that they will be so interested in throttling it and making money that they will make another crippled system like Jewelry Crafting, or worse, make an OP system that never quite fits into the game balance.

"...end the misguided Three Banners
War and restore peace to Tamriel..."

Thank god they're finally removing PvP.

JJBoomer wrote: »

just some holes in theories:

ESO was officially confirmed by Bethesda (above ZOS/Zeni) to be canon. part of the main, or prime timeline. So ESO itself is definitely not taking place during a dragonbreak.

these dragonbreak theories have one big hole. the fact that ZOS’s engine/servers in no way can handle multiple instances of the entire game. it can’t even handle one instance of cyro. so multiple versions of the game existing is probably beyond the tech capabilities they have.

as for spellcrafting? spell crafting assets were found in the game files before and after summerset was released. the parts are there, just need to be activated. so spellcrafting so far, seems possible.

TES 2: Daggerfall is also canon, and those events ended in a Dragon Break too Usually it only means that it's possible to have contradictions in the canon lore, since during a Dragon Break there are simultaneouos events, which aren't possible to be true at the same time normally.

IronWooshu wrote: »

What happens in the 3 Banner War is already history in the Elder Scrolls canon. We know what happens with each faction and who actually wins so I highly doubt Abnur Tharn is going to end it unless we travel ahead 200 years into the future and fight for Tiber Septim.

Actually, we don't know exactly what happened. We know that ultimately none of the factions were winning the war, and all of them crumbled decades - maybe more than a century - before Tiber Septim. He fought against the Aldmeri Dominion, but it was a new, second Dominion, not the current one.

Ydrisselle wrote: »

TES 2: Daggerfall is also canon, and those events ended in a Dragon Break too Usually it only means that it's possible to have contradictions in the canon lore, since during a Dragon Break there are simultaneouos events, which aren't possible to be true at the same time normally.

The main reason to have a Dragon Break at the end of Elder Scrolls Online would be to fix the outcome of the Three Banners War in canon lore for upcoming games. It would not be used to erase the events of Elder Scrolls Online, but to establish a canon conclusion in a situation more complicated than "pick a winner and move on with the story".

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Why does anyone assume Tharn will ACTUALLY end the 3 Banner War?

Some people don't like open world PvP and go full "I wanna believe"

Maybe this is just how you get your necromancer skill line

Jagar tharn his father ruled the imperials

Maybe you help Abnur bring his father back from the dead to rule them again ... And the whole thing has nothing to do with PvP at all

Or it could bring with it a 4th PvP faction imperials ... Basically mercs fighting for gold.can seige and fight any faction great then a lock down of factions in campaigns

DarkMasterJMK wrote: »

Akrasjel wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Why does anyone assume Tharn will ACTUALLY end the 3 Banner War?

Some people don't like open world PvP and go full "I wanna believe"

I'm suspecting that ZOS is pulling the plug on the Cyrodiil Campaigns because of the Midyear Mayhem Encore event coming up ("Encore" as in possibly indicating that this Midyear Mayhem event will be the last Midyear Mayhem event ever) and the datamining about Abnur Tharn ending the Three Banners War through a Dragon Break.

Both of these notes are fairly strong evidence that PvP Cyrodiil will be no more in Chapter 3, at least until we hear from ZOS that this won't be the case.

You know encore means "to be repeated" right? Midyear Mayhem is usually during summer so they call this one an encore since its in January instead.