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Magplar PvP
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To save new thread space I'll ask here.
I wanted to try magplar pvp and I have a *** for malubeth, would it fit into any build? Or Zaan/Skoria is da wei?
Other sets I've been wanting to try were transmutation, shacklebreaker, cyrodil's light, overwhelimg surge and innate axiom.
Playstyle - wise im thinking 5 heavy and swift jewels with jabs and destro (for ele drain) coupled with SnB?
Imo, Balorgh is BiS for Magplar offense. It’s hard to go from defense to offense traditionally so it’s not uncommon to have 300+ ult by the time you’re ready to use an offensive ult.
Allright well monster set wise i can try all of them prolly cause I have all of them laying around anyway, but what about rest of the sets? Definitely don't wanna feel like I wasted 150 stones transmuting *** set to swiftness that I can't even use on any other build.
When PTS drops next week, test out all of these on your own. If swift looks good to you, then waste the stones to transmute.
Honestly, don't do swift if you think it is too expensive for you.
I mean, 150 stones is like 9 days of doing pledges
How? The last time I did a pledge I got 1 stone lol
I'm probably missing something here, but I've never gotten more than 1 stone for each pledge. PvP on the other hand I've gotten 10 or 4 each day with the 50 each month.
I think Swift is great but I would recommend a new player wasting stones unless they get used to magplar a bit.
And how many characters do you have?
3 pledges, X characters. 3 stones per character, say 5 characters that’s 15 stones per day which would be 10 days.
It's hard to believe that people could stand doing 15 pledges a day, but I guess that's one way of doing it. 😕0 -
mav1234✭✭✭✭✭this thread has been awesome. Making me consider picking my magplar back up! Thanks for all the useful tips!
quick question that I haven't seen a recent answer to: do purifying lights from more than one magplar stack?0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭this thread has been awesome. Making me consider picking my magplar back up! Thanks for all the useful tips!
quick question that I haven't seen a recent answer to: do purifying lights from more than one magplar stack?
Yes both damage and HoTs.Edited by Lexxypwns on September 16, 2018 4:47AM1 -
Datolite✭✭✭✭✭To save new thread space I'll ask here.
I wanted to try magplar pvp and I have a *** for malubeth, would it fit into any build? Or Zaan/Skoria is da wei?
Other sets I've been wanting to try were transmutation, shacklebreaker, cyrodil's light, overwhelimg surge and innate axiom.
Playstyle - wise im thinking 5 heavy and swift jewels with jabs and destro (for ele drain) coupled with SnB?
Imo, Balorgh is BiS for Magplar offense. It’s hard to go from defense to offense traditionally so it’s not uncommon to have 300+ ult by the time you’re ready to use an offensive ult.
Allright well monster set wise i can try all of them prolly cause I have all of them laying around anyway, but what about rest of the sets? Definitely don't wanna feel like I wasted 150 stones transmuting *** set to swiftness that I can't even use on any other build.
When PTS drops next week, test out all of these on your own. If swift looks good to you, then waste the stones to transmute.
Honestly, don't do swift if you think it is too expensive for you.
I mean, 150 stones is like 9 days of doing pledges
How? The last time I did a pledge I got 1 stone lol
I'm probably missing something here, but I've never gotten more than 1 stone for each pledge. PvP on the other hand I've gotten 10 or 4 each day with the 50 each month.
I think Swift is great but I would recommend a new player wasting stones unless they get used to magplar a bit.
And how many characters do you have?
3 pledges, X characters. 3 stones per character, say 5 characters that’s 15 stones per day which would be 10 days.
If you have 4 characters, put them all in a 30 day campaign and cap some stuff until you get lvl1 rewards on each of them (take maybe an hour or 2 each). That's 200 stones at the end of the month guaranteed. I have 8 alts and never run out of transmutations.Edited by Datolite on September 16, 2018 11:55AM0 -
Datolite✭✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »DeadlyRecluse wrote: »I just want to say this thread is remarkably productive and respectful. It's pretty cool.
That's why Templar got some good buffs this patch
Templar ult rework Monday. Get hyped.
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LeifErickson✭✭✭✭✭
✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »DeadlyRecluse wrote: »I just want to say this thread is remarkably productive and respectful. It's pretty cool.
That's why Templar got some good buffs this patch
Templar ult rework Monday. Get hyped.
Did I miss something?
It's the word on the street. Might not be true but very good chance that at least radial sweep gets reworked.0 -
KingExecration✭✭✭✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »To save new thread space I'll ask here.
I wanted to try magplar pvp and I have a *** for malubeth, would it fit into any build? Or Zaan/Skoria is da wei?
Other sets I've been wanting to try were transmutation, shacklebreaker, cyrodil's light, overwhelimg surge and innate axiom.
Playstyle - wise im thinking 5 heavy and swift jewels with jabs and destro (for ele drain) coupled with SnB?
Imo, Balorgh is BiS for Magplar offense. It’s hard to go from defense to offense traditionally so it’s not uncommon to have 300+ ult by the time you’re ready to use an offensive ult.
Allright well monster set wise i can try all of them prolly cause I have all of them laying around anyway, but what about rest of the sets? Definitely don't wanna feel like I wasted 150 stones transmuting *** set to swiftness that I can't even use on any other build.
When PTS drops next week, test out all of these on your own. If swift looks good to you, then waste the stones to transmute.
Honestly, don't do swift if you think it is too expensive for you.
I mean, 150 stones is like 9 days of doing pledges
How? The last time I did a pledge I got 1 stone lol
I'm probably missing something here, but I've never gotten more than 1 stone for each pledge. PvP on the other hand I've gotten 10 or 4 each day with the 50 each month.
I think Swift is great but I would recommend a new player wasting stones unless they get used to magplar a bit.
And how many characters do you have?
3 pledges, X characters. 3 stones per character, say 5 characters that’s 15 stones per day which would be 10 days.
If you have 4 characters, put them all in a 30 day campaign and cap some stuff until you get lvl1 rewards on each of them (take maybe an hour or 2 each). That's 200 stones at the end of the month guaranteed. I have 8 alts and never run out of transmutations.
I do that on 13.... I got stones on standby.0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KingExecration wrote: »datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »To save new thread space I'll ask here.
I wanted to try magplar pvp and I have a *** for malubeth, would it fit into any build? Or Zaan/Skoria is da wei?
Other sets I've been wanting to try were transmutation, shacklebreaker, cyrodil's light, overwhelimg surge and innate axiom.
Playstyle - wise im thinking 5 heavy and swift jewels with jabs and destro (for ele drain) coupled with SnB?
Imo, Balorgh is BiS for Magplar offense. It’s hard to go from defense to offense traditionally so it’s not uncommon to have 300+ ult by the time you’re ready to use an offensive ult.
Allright well monster set wise i can try all of them prolly cause I have all of them laying around anyway, but what about rest of the sets? Definitely don't wanna feel like I wasted 150 stones transmuting *** set to swiftness that I can't even use on any other build.
When PTS drops next week, test out all of these on your own. If swift looks good to you, then waste the stones to transmute.
Honestly, don't do swift if you think it is too expensive for you.
I mean, 150 stones is like 9 days of doing pledges
How? The last time I did a pledge I got 1 stone lol
I'm probably missing something here, but I've never gotten more than 1 stone for each pledge. PvP on the other hand I've gotten 10 or 4 each day with the 50 each month.
I think Swift is great but I would recommend a new player wasting stones unless they get used to magplar a bit.
And how many characters do you have?
3 pledges, X characters. 3 stones per character, say 5 characters that’s 15 stones per day which would be 10 days.
If you have 4 characters, put them all in a 30 day campaign and cap some stuff until you get lvl1 rewards on each of them (take maybe an hour or 2 each). That's 200 stones at the end of the month guaranteed. I have 8 alts and never run out of transmutations.
I do that on 13.... I got stones on standby.
13? Wow! I got it on 2 which I took to tier 3. Was going to play my magsorc, and did for a little bit; but I find it boring before I even got to tier1.0 -
Sergykid✭✭✭✭✭
✭Aren’t tier 1 rewards 10k AP
yes i`m not sure about the rewards either. I bring my chars to tier 3 because not sure what rewards would i get
i won't use stones anyway, still too much to experiment on builds. I use many sets in combination and everything seems acceptable but nothing feels good enough-PC EU- / battlegrounds on my youtube0 -
esotoon✭✭✭✭✭
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Tier 1 is 25,000 ap to 49,999 ap
Reward of the Worthy boxes are every 20,000 ap
All Reward levels and what you get for them can be found here:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Campaigns
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Sergykid✭✭✭✭✭
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Tier 1 is 25,000 ap to 49,999 ap
Reward of the Worthy boxes are every 20,000 ap
All Reward levels and what you get for them can be found here:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Campaigns
nowhere said anything about transmute crystals. I know that on 7 days one u get 10 crystals, and one the 30 days ones u get 50 crystals. But it doesn't say there, that and which tier u need for the reward.-PC EU- / battlegrounds on my youtube0 -
Feyziness✭✭Want to ask the magplar enthusiasts here of their opinion on running
5 Cyrodills light/ 5 innate axiom Heavy/ valkyn or pirates. Do you guys think it’s feasible and if not what would be your recommendation for one offensive and one defensive set? I’d perefer to play in light but have no clue on how to make that happen.0 -
Soris✭✭✭✭✭
✭Want to ask the magplar enthusiasts here of their opinion on running
5 Cyrodills light/ 5 innate axiom Heavy/ valkyn or pirates. Do you guys think it’s feasible and if not what would be your recommendation for one offensive and one defensive set? I’d perefer to play in light but have no clue on how to make that happen.
I would use wizard's ripostle instead of cyrodiil's light because for 1 it affects enemies so it offers some group support and 2 it gives the same amount of damage reduction but also works when not channeling. So you can have 15% damage reduction when turtling under heavy focus.
However i prefer axiom with shackle and pirate skelly as the only true defensive set. Though this a bit pricy due to the jewelry crafting but very solid choice. Axiom and shackle are both ofensive and defensive sets because it increases your heals and damage, plus they give 3k stamina for your blocking desires. With light armor build i prefer using dampen magic which gives me around 9k damage shield but it requires minimum 37k magicka and some points in bastion. (i have 17%) With it i can equip valkyn skoria or balorg. Even pirate is good with it since you are not spamming shields like a magsorc.Edited by Soris on September 17, 2018 12:27AMWelkynd [Templar/AD/EU]0 -
esotoon✭✭✭✭✭
✭nowhere said anything about transmute crystals. I know that on 7 days one u get 10 crystals, and one the 30 days ones u get 50 crystals. But it doesn't say there, that and which tier u need for the reward.
Yeah, I’m surprised they still haven’t added it.
I can confirm it’s tier 1 though. As well as my actual PVP characters, I get them on several alts each campaign, and only ever level those to tier 1.
Edited by esotoon on September 17, 2018 12:36AM0 -
Feyziness✭✭Want to ask the magplar enthusiasts here of their opinion on running
5 Cyrodills light/ 5 innate axiom Heavy/ valkyn or pirates. Do you guys think it’s feasible and if not what would be your recommendation for one offensive and one defensive set? I’d perefer to play in light but have no clue on how to make that happen.
I would use wizard's ripostle instead of cyrodiil's light because for 1 it affects enemies so it offers some group support and 2 it gives the same amount of damage reduction but also works when not channeling. So you can have 15% damage reduction when turtling under heavy focus.
However i prefer axiom with shackle and pirate skelly as the only true defensive set. Though this a bit pricy due to the jewelry crafting but very solid choice. Axiom and shackle are both ofensive and defensive sets because it increases your heals and damage, plus they give 3k stamina for your blocking desires. With light armor build i prefer using dampen magic which gives me around 9k damage shield but it requires minimum 37k magicka and some points in bastion. (i have 17%) With it i can equip valkyn skoria or balorg. Even pirate is good with it since you are not spamming shields like a magsorc.
Thanks for the advice, will give the latter half a try.
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cazlonb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »DeadlyRecluse wrote: »I just want to say this thread is remarkably productive and respectful. It's pretty cool.
That's why Templar got some good buffs this patch
Templar ult rework Monday. Get hyped.
Did I miss something?
New DLC will hit the PTS today. Iirc through the class rep program it was handed down that Templars' ultis will be reworked eventually, we'll see if it happens this cycle already.
PS: When splashing $$$ on Axiom keep in mind that it's good for MeleePlars, but not great for RangePlars atm.Edited by cazlonb16_ESO on September 17, 2018 4:31AM0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I've seen a lot of magplar starting to use Seducer again. While not a bad set I can't really put my finger on why Seducer is so popular again.0 -
SugaComa✭✭✭✭✭Want to ask the magplar enthusiasts here of their opinion on running
5 Cyrodills light/ 5 innate axiom Heavy/ valkyn or pirates. Do you guys think it’s feasible and if not what would be your recommendation for one offensive and one defensive set? I’d perefer to play in light but have no clue on how to make that happen.
I'd swap axiom for soul shine ....
Or cyrodis light for another damager set and go all offencive
I'm actually doing just that ... But mainly for BGs0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I've seen a lot of magplar starting to use Seducer again. While not a bad set I can't really put my finger on why Seducer is so popular again.
In HA, seducer is kinda nice. Or if you don't run channeled focus or ele drain.
I'm running a little higher Regen, ele drain, and restoring rune in a BG with light armor. And switch out my monster helm according to the match (bloodspawn, pirate Skeleton, chudan/pirate, slimecraw if I have a healer in the group, etc).Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Feyziness✭✭Want to ask the magplar enthusiasts here of their opinion on running
5 Cyrodills light/ 5 innate axiom Heavy/ valkyn or pirates. Do you guys think it’s feasible and if not what would be your recommendation for one offensive and one defensive set? I’d perefer to play in light but have no clue on how to make that happen.
I'd swap axiom for soul shine ....
Or cyrodis light for another damager set and go all offencive
I'm actually doing just that ... But mainly for BGs
Are you running 5 light or heavy?
Also, how’s the sustain with two offensive sets that trade higher stat pool and recovery for damage?0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭I've seen a lot of magplar starting to use Seducer again. While not a bad set I can't really put my finger on why Seducer is so popular again.
I've been giving Seducer some thought as well as pertains some builds I've been considering...
Even though its an older set, the sustain it gives combined with the 8% Cost Reduction to all Magicka abilities is potentially awesome...
For example, a while back I combined Seducers in 5 Light with Vampire Lord and it brought the Cost of Elusive Mist down to an amazingly low 2.8k or 2.6k Magicka per cast (its been a while so I cant recall the exact value, but one of those is correct)...
When you combine that kind of efficiency with being very easy to obtain, I can see why people are equipping it again...
Afterall, being able to hit Mist Form 12 times (or more) in a row does have its appeal... Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on September 17, 2018 11:37AMUnyeilding Bias
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BNOC✭✭✭✭✭KingExecration wrote: »datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »Does the Elegance set or Empower synergize well with Elemental Weapon?
No, it’s a separate instance of damage and isn’t buffed by light attack damage bonuses
"your next Light Attack used within 2 seconds to deal an additional 6177 Magic Damage"
This makes me think that there is still a base light attack under the skill damage. Would that at least be buffed?
It’s not a light attack. I’ve tested a lot of stuff with EW. It scales on magika+Spell damage, Spell crit, Spell pen, MAA, ele expert, and Minor/major berserk(and vulnerability)
So you confirmed that there is no regular light attack under the EW damage after it's cast? That is weird, I guess they thought it would be too OP for a spammable.
Your light attack exists, deals damage, procs glyphs, etc.
The easier explanation is that EW is like an an enchant, your light attack registers damage and the server checks to see if it should proc an enchant and if it should proc EW damage.
If your light attack does 2.5k and your enchant does 2.5k and Elemental Weapons does 6.5k you can have them all land at the same time WITH another skill.
This is how ranged Magplar builds burst, you get your DoTs running, apply PL, do whatever rotation, then time an EW-LA-Reach to hit as PL explodes. Ideally you’ll have Reflective/Vamps bane, Reach, Burning, and entropy all ticking then have reach-LA-EW-PL and Radiant all going off in basically the same second, it’s actually a whole lot to try to deal with as you can burst 20k+ with no ultimate and Beam will execute the people that try to CC break and instantly dodge roll.
Well if the light attack exists then why is it not affected by Empower or Elegance?
It does, it just doesn't buff the ele weapon skill. The light attack is its own damage
Precisely. Elegance will only boost the light attack damage not the other instances of damage attached to it; enchant or ele weapon.
Well that's exactly what I was assuming in the first place lol.
Anyway, I can't think of a better set if I'm going to be spamming light attacks. I'm trying a build with Elegance and War Maiden and will follow your burst combo advice. Thanks for the tips.
War Maiden isn't great for that, depending on how you setup your ranged build.KingExecration wrote: »A build that’s fun and different I feel some should try is:
5 shacklebreaker body light
5 spell power cure (jewelry and sword and board backbar or however you match it)
1 grothdarr (or whatever max mag one piece you got perfect trait)
1 domihaus (puts us about 15k ish stam so we can run witchmothers or blue max food)
1 willpower Lightning infused (I prefer this because I love blockade on my magplar)
Run this with 5l 1m 1h and it’s a cool build to play around with if you got sets laying around. Only downside you run mage light, entropy, and meteor front bar. I drop vamps bane because I get the crit elsewhere. It’s a build pushing mag magic so I suggest using mage Mundus. Let me know your criticism of the build.
I can't remember since it's been so long, but do sweeps/ritual kick off SPC or does it have to come from a direct heal?
Regardless of whether it does or not, Julianos would be better for example (When out of a group & providing you're giving them the buff regularly) - Solo, there's no reason to run SPC.
The build is alright and will probably manage but I don't think it'll compete with some of the other builds posted on here - It seems to offer very little offence and not really much more defence.
The way I’m proccing it and using the max magic bonuses no other set brings more damage to my build. Unless I ran burning spell weave but the uptime kills it compared to spc. I also have willpower on the front bar for more max. Defense is important yes but I don’t have to defend against a target on the ground. People don’t expect huge damage from a Templar. Just some creativity I felt like sharing. Templar has a nice synergy with sets that proc on the back bar like trans or spc.
And the offence it provides comes from purifying light, blockade and sweeps. Packs a punch at 55k max and almost 3k spell power.TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »if I play in light I have to build with 1 maybe 2 defensive sets other wise it's hard to get off the back bar and go offensive
Typically you need to wear at least 2 Defensive Sets if you going to wear Light Armor as a Magplar (unless you want to go full glass canon of course)...
You can get away with wearing only 1 if you really know what you are doing and play conservatively; I have been experimenting with such a build, and it's alot of fun, but it can't stand up to a prolonged attack...
You need 0 if you run 3x swift and 2h. Just get enough magika for harness to be useful and slot rapid regen.
@BNOC the reason to run SPC solo is because it’s a single bar set and lets you run either Willpower jewels or front bar weapon
Ah, makes sense. Both fair points, hope it's working well!vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
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BNOC✭✭✭✭✭KingExecration wrote: »I’ve been trying to make a build without vamp but still have a lot of damage and can take a hit and possible to 1vx. Here’s another build I guess I’ll share since I’ve actually really loved this build.
2x pirate skeleton (2 light because we don’t get a bunch of cost reduction in heavy)
5x wyrd tree (heavy on body pieces, easily obtainable, great stats)
5x transmutation (jewelry and sword and board backbar)
2x willpower front bar (I use lightning for fat Dawnbreakers and having access to ele drain and lightning blockade)
On my jewelry I run
1 cost reduction
2 spell damage
1 Swift
2 arcane
For food I typically run witchmothers, and stam speed immovables for pots.
High elf race.
I wouldn’t dare call it the best but it’s really fun and in a 1vx situation when you’re spamming jabs on your front bar and wyrd tree is purifying a sorcs curses, or a dks dots is pretty nice lmao. I use like 4 sturdy on this build because we’re already pretty beefed up. Mundus depends how you play and your race. Let me know your insight guys, and what you think of the wyrd tree set. Constructive criticism is highly appreciated.
If you're trying to not run Vamp on that build (and you can afford it), swap the food out for the gold Citrus fillet - You'll be getting a tiny bit more stats; not a lot, but it's better than nothing.
+~500HP
+~300Mag
+351 HRvMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
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UppGRAYxDD✭✭✭✭✭
✭Been running Gankplar again
still just as good, almost better due to race against time psijic skill...5 warmaiden/5 Julianos/2slimecrawl, 4 divine 3 infused, lover mundus... biggest flare since patch: 22k "Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭UppGRAYxDD wrote: »Been running Gankplar again still just as good, almost better due to race against time psijic skill...5 warmaiden/5 Julianos/2slimecrawl, 4 divine 3 infused, lover mundus... biggest flare since patch: 22k
Hot. Need some juicy vids to see those 22k DF's touch players lolMinno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭After trying 5pc Axiom, 5pc Trans(Resto staff) and 2pc. Grothdarr(I'll try Zaan once I farm it), with a lighting destro front bar(I'll get a lighting willpower probably), for cp the build feels pretty strong.
I'm an argonian so I run Spell Power Pots and Clockwork Citrus Filet, with atro. No sustain issues, neither stam or mag. 2x Triune + 1x Arcane, with 2 SD 1x rec on jewellery.
Haven't had any 1v4+ fights yet, but had quite a few successful 1v2 and 1v3s. (Argueably, they were potatoes). I also ran the build in small-scale and the damage is pretty nuts, compared to a lot of other set-ups I've ran in the past. The damage in this build, seems to take a lot of people by surprise, as even above-potato-level people have died to it in open-world.
Although I still haven't decided if I prefer Grothdarr, Skoria or Zaan(Didn't try) yet.Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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