Magplar PvP

Datolite

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

Throw some Bloodspawn in there and you got yourself a stew goin'.

Lexxypwns

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

7x tri glyphs 1x triune ring is like 15k stam and lets you still run 2x swift.

I think it’ll really shine with Shackle though as you can run 7x tri glyphs 2x swift 1x Infused all damage and Balorgh. Tons of offense and limitless sustain there

xGhost91x

On the new Sweep change: do you guys think it will be worth it to run it over Dawnbreaker?

casparian

xGhost91x wrote: »

On the new Sweep change: do you guys think it will be worth it to run it over Dawnbreaker?

Why did (most) stamplars not run Crescent before? It wasn't the damage -- which was always on par with DBOS -- it was the hitbox. It's small and unreliable. The new morphs are definitely worth experimenting with, but the core problem with the skill hasn't been changed.

Lexxypwns

casparian wrote: »

xGhost91x wrote: »

On the new Sweep change: do you guys think it will be worth it to run it over Dawnbreaker?

Why did (most) stamplars not run Crescent before? It wasn't the damage -- which was always on par with DBOS -- it was the hitbox. It's small and unreliable. The new morphs are definitely worth experimenting with, but the core problem with the skill hasn't been changed.

Exactly. It could do a billion damage but not be worth a slot, good luck getting it to land on anyone consistently. Needs a similar hit box to sweeps or DB or a 6m AoE.

Sweet rework ZoS

Kartalin

Yep, crescent sounds pretty good until you actually try to use it

Edit: maybe it will work better in combination with a couple swift jewelry? Worth testing but not optimistic
.

Qbiken

Lexxypwns wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

7x tri glyphs 1x triune ring is like 15k stam and lets you still run 2x swift.

I think it’ll really shine with Shackle though as you can run 7x tri glyphs 2x swift 1x Infused all damage and Balorgh. Tons of offense and limitless sustain there

Would you run heavy or light armor with this setup?

Syiccal

I have a question for destro/s+B users... what enchant are you putting on your staff.
currently on my lightning staff I'm using beserker although some say shock enchant will give more benifit .
PvP

Minno

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

there is a tri max stat drink.

Edit:
for english lol

SneaK

Minno wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

there is a tri max stat drink.

Edit:
for english lol

What’s that called?

Kartalin

Spring loaded Infusion maybe? IIRC it doesn’t proc bone pirate at the moment even though bervez juice is part of the recipe meaning it should be a drink. Also I think the tri stat values it gives are slightly lower than comparable food.

This may have been fixed but I remember it was an issue at one point.

Minno

SneaK wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

there is a tri max stat drink.

Edit:
for english lol

What’s that called?

spring infusion or something like that. A CWC drink.

Edit:
Spring-Loaded Infusion

SneaK

Minno wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

there is a tri max stat drink.

Edit:
for english lol

What’s that called?

spring infusion or something like that. A CWC drink.

Edit:
Spring-Loaded Infusion

That’s a drink??? Well that’s a a great bit of info, thanks.

SneaK

Kartalin wrote: »

Spring loaded Infusion maybe? IIRC it doesn’t proc bone pirate at the moment even though bervez juice is part of the recipe meaning it should be a drink. Also I think the tri stat values it gives are slightly lower than comparable food.

This may have been fixed but I remember it was an issue at one point.

So it’s bugged, which means it’s a poor mans trifood and worthless lol. That sucks.

Minno

Kartalin wrote: »

Spring loaded Infusion maybe? IIRC it doesn’t proc bone pirate at the moment even though bervez juice is part of the recipe meaning it should be a drink. Also I think the tri stat values it gives are slightly lower than comparable food.

This may have been fixed but I remember it was an issue at one point.

yea there was a bug similar to bone pirate not working with the fish broth.

Except the tooltip says DRINK here lol.

NBrookus

Fish broth is a food (yea I know, but it says it is chunky...) and so is Clockwork Citrus. I think this is intentional.

Akinos

Kartalin wrote: »

Yep, crescent sounds pretty good until you actually try to use it

Edit: maybe it will work better in combination with a couple swift jewelry? Worth testing but not optimistic
.

You really just need to cc somebody before trying to land crescent sweep. That's all I ever had to do before and it literally always landed.
Though i think swift would help if you were trying to use it against a moving target, though I don't recommend that...because then it can miss

Datolite

Minno wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Spring loaded Infusion maybe? IIRC it doesn’t proc bone pirate at the moment even though bervez juice is part of the recipe meaning it should be a drink. Also I think the tri stat values it gives are slightly lower than comparable food.

This may have been fixed but I remember it was an issue at one point.

yea there was a bug similar to bone pirate not working with the fish broth.

Except the tooltip says DRINK here lol.

I've heard the same said about arteum takeaway broth, doubt it's been fixed. So at this point are we just stuck with Witchmother?

VirtualElizabeth

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

What is the Mag BP set?

Minno

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Spring loaded Infusion maybe? IIRC it doesn’t proc bone pirate at the moment even though bervez juice is part of the recipe meaning it should be a drink. Also I think the tri stat values it gives are slightly lower than comparable food.

This may have been fixed but I remember it was an issue at one point.

yea there was a bug similar to bone pirate not working with the fish broth.

Except the tooltip says DRINK here lol.

I've heard the same said about arteum takeaway broth, doubt it's been fixed. So at this point are we just stuck with Witchmother?

not entirely bad in a way. Get your mag/recovery off 1 set 1 drink, then enchant/trait up the rest.
Pigeonholed into shackle/mag BP though but lets your run 3swift with minimal max resource loss.

VirtualElizabeth

VirtualElizabeth wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

What is the Mag BP set?

Ah found it!

Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.

NICE!! This set will be mine.

Lexxypwns

Qbiken wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

7x tri glyphs 1x triune ring is like 15k stam and lets you still run 2x swift.

I think it’ll really shine with Shackle though as you can run 7x tri glyphs 2x swift 1x Infused all damage and Balorgh. Tons of offense and limitless sustain there

Would you run heavy or light armor with this setup?

Heavy. My venture into light Magplar died when they added a cast time to shields

ccmedaddy

I've been running heavy since Summerset and loving it thanks to the advice of those in this thread but I'm very tempted to go back to light armor next patch, if shields remain crittable and penetrable. Don't @ me but I feel like the new set granting major protection when you cleanse (for 5 sec duration every 10 sec) will pair really well with Combat Physician.

CatchMeTrolling

Came back to a mag bp takeover, so it begins.

I’d actually prefer this set with the traditional snb front bar with all tri glyphs. Then go 2h back bar for forward momentum. Or resto.

I’m thinking defensive posture could be a decent skill to slot next update for extra block mitigation. And if you don’t care about running a monster set asylum snb is an option but could be overkill. If not I’d go skoria, grothdar, bloodspawn and KENA could be really good. Note: I wouldn’t run no monster helm in heavy, only light.

Sets you could pair it up would be spell power cure, shackle, overwhelming, axiom etc.

Anyways those are my off the top thoughts.

Elong

With some of these new burst sets coming out , like stopping 5.5k healing, and adding 500 spell damage against you, not to mention the cast time on dampen magicka, I'm probably going to end up back in heavy armour too. That sort of thing can destroy an average player like me on a 300 ping.

TheDoomsdayMonster

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

The new magic bone pirate looks like it could be a decent set for magplars. Stamplars could be nasty next patch but I can’t help but think major evasion change might be a slap in the face to the class.

If you ever fought someone using sweeps and jabs while having blade cloak up you know it makes a big difference.

Mag BP will be interesting. I’m curious if we’ll be able to get high enough stam by just running tri glyphs though, otherwise might have to pair with shackle.

Mag BP/Innate with the new ulti might be nasty.

7x tri glyphs 1x triune ring is like 15k stam and lets you still run 2x swift.

I think it’ll really shine with Shackle though as you can run 7x tri glyphs 2x swift 1x Infused all damage and Balorgh. Tons of offense and limitless sustain there

Would you run heavy or light armor with this setup?

Heavy. My venture into light Magplar died when they added a cast time to shields

Why would you stop Light Armor?

Now that Shields can be Critted, that 4884 Spell Penetration and 10% Spell Crit is going to be very valuable...


Inaddition, if you are built correctly, this is a buff to Shields...

For example, given my high constant Resists, the Combat Physician Damage Shields strength will be 44% greater against Magical Attacks and 35% stronger against Physical...


Shields can still work, but you cant go glass canon as before and be successful with them; your base defenses still must be decent...

TheDoomsdayMonster

ccmedaddy wrote: »

I've been running heavy since Summerset and loving it thanks to the advice of those in this thread but I'm very tempted to go back to light armor next patch, if shields remain crittable and penetrable. Don't @ me but I feel like the new set granting major protection when you cleanse (for 5 sec duration every 10 sec) will pair really well with Combat Physician.

Don't sleep on Combat Physician...

I'm telling you, as I have told some peeps already, these changes are a buff pending how your character is built...

TheDoomsdayMonster

Elong wrote: »

With some of these new burst sets coming out , like stopping 5.5k healing, and adding 500 spell damage against you, not to mention the cast time on dampen magicka, I'm probably going to end up back in heavy armour too. That sort of thing can destroy an average player like me on a 300 ping.

You can stay in Light, but as soon as you see that Healing Debuff on you, Mist Form away...

Mist Form will cover the entire duration of the debuff (and you cant Heal during Mist Form anyway so you really lose nothing) and will allow you to create some distance between you and your opponent before continuing the battle...

TheDoomsdayMonster

Anyway, I personally love the changes that are coming to the game...

Mighty Chudan x2...
Combat Physician x5...
Spectre's Eye x5...


With that build (my favorite set up at the moment) I don't have to change a thing with the changes AND I am getting buffed all around...

Combat Physicians x2 Spell Crit is now much more valuable...

The Combat Physician Damage Shield will be stronger as well provided you have good Resists...


Spectre's Eye will now have more consistent defense...

I will miss being able to passively dodge while in Mist Form (some of you never saw this, but it was OP as pertains escape), but having 25% Resist to AoE with 50% uptime is a worthy tradeoff...


All in all, I love the changes and am looking forward to them..

Elong

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

With some of these new burst sets coming out , like stopping 5.5k healing, and adding 500 spell damage against you, not to mention the cast time on dampen magicka, I'm probably going to end up back in heavy armour too. That sort of thing can destroy an average player like me on a 300 ping.

You can stay in Light, but as soon as you see that Healing Debuff on you, Mist Form away...

Mist Form will cover the entire duration of the debuff (and you cant Heal during Mist Form anyway so you really lose nothing) and will allow you to create some distance between you and your opponent before continuing the battle...

Cheers for the info on how to play, 4 years and a GO later I still haven't quite worked it out

You need to play on a terrible connection like I have to understand the issues that come with it and light armour.