What does being a dps mean to you?

  • xilfxlegion
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    being a dps means waiting 20 to 40 minutes in queue for random dungeons.
  • JinMori
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    Tasear wrote: »
    JinMori wrote: »
    There is no, what it means to me, words have a definition, dps means damage per second, it means doing damage while surviving, as much as you can do, that's it, everything else like support, self heal etc it's supplementary.

    Definitions involve with connotation that people apply to them. That's why some entries have more then one. For example the discused role means differently to different people. That's what's interesting. How people percieve the same concept.

    A word can mean some things, but it's all related to the base word, for example, kill can mean to kill a person, or to kill a project etc.... but it's all related to the base meaning of the word.

    I completely disagree with you there, if all people have their own definition for words, then you remove all standards from it, words need to be precisely defined, you can;t have a word that can mean a lot of things for different people, otherwise, you lose the ability to convey a message because of the inability to define your message, also this can be exploited with disastrous results.

    People go to prison for this garbage, it cannot stand, and while this discussion is inconsequential at the end of the day, words meaning many things is not.

    I do not think it;'s interesting what people think what a word means, i only care about what it actually means, what i do care about is if your argument is good, and whether or not it's true, that;s what interests me.

    A more correct question i think would have been, what do you do as a dps, rather then what does a dps mean to you.
    Edited by JinMori on May 14, 2018 4:23PM
  • Tasear
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    JinMori wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    JinMori wrote: »
    There is no, what it means to me, words have a definition, dps means damage per second, it means doing damage while surviving, as much as you can do, that's it, everything else like support, self heal etc it's supplementary.

    Definitions involve with connotation that people apply to them. That's why some entries have more then one. For example the discused role means differently to different people. That's what's interesting. How people percieve the same concept.

    A word can mean some things, but it's all related to the base word, for example, kill can mean to kill a person, or to kill a project etc.... but it's all related to the base meaning of the word.

    I completely disagree with you there, if all people have their own definition for words, then you remove all standards from it, words need to be precisely defined, you can;t have a word that can mean a lot of things for different people, otherwise, you lose the ability to convey a message because of the inability to define your message, also this can be exploited with disastrous results.

    People go to prison for this garbage, it cannot stand, and while this discussion is inconsequential at the end of the day, words meaning many things is not.

    I do not think it;'s interesting what people think what a word means, i only care about what it actually means, what i do care about is if your argument is good, and whether or not it's true, that;s what interests me.

    A more correct question i think would have been, what do you do as a dps, rather then what does a dps mean to you.

    Let's agree to disagree.
  • kylewwefan
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    Early on the thread I put a number on it. 25k. To me, this is pretty good damage really, and far more than many I have met. It’s not the absolute standard though. You can actually run through most content if the DD are hitting 15k. Vet Trials and DLC dungeons may be a bit rough, but they should be able to finish.

    I’m really not interested in the DD DPS debate. They can be used interchangeably if players know what you mean. Actually, most people I’ve met in this game don’t know what DD is, so you have to tell them.

    It’s no big deal really. Carry on.
  • Sekero
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    @JinMori

    What does "Home" mean to you? I can virtually guarantee that it means something different to me and to others. Language is not logical, and regional differences mean that words can mean something different somewhere else.
  • Tasear
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    Too me dps is guys who keep working for me and I don't let them die. I show kindness by buffing the the numbers. I care for them by providing food in orbs or shards along with desert's in synergies glore. They sometimes fight with each other so I have to break that up with lots of tatics to solve different fights. Lastly they die if they don't listen. o:)
    Edited by Tasear on May 14, 2018 8:04PM
  • LeagueTroll
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    Dreepa wrote: »
    If you are a DD you deal high DPS.

    I am a DD and I deal low DPS. Though I don't care, because it is still enough for 90% of this games content. Mabye some day I ll reach the 25k.

    However, I just find it utterly stupid that you need to "exploit" a broken animation system (animation canceling) to get peak DPS.

    "Hey it is not a bug, it's a feature"

    Sure... go tell some designer...

    Weaving is just a broken animation system.




    Omg this bug feature thing again. Moba like league and fps like csgo all have some type of animation cancel. Tell their dev it’s a bug.
  • MasterSpatula
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    Mostly, it means looking at other people's numbers and asking myself, "How is that even possible?" Then realizing I don't actually enjoy doing what you have to do to get there and going off and playing solo content--or, lately, playing a single-player game or reading a book.
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • JinMori
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    Allanm wrote: »
    @JinMori

    What does "Home" mean to you? I can virtually guarantee that it means something different to me and to others. Language is not logical, and regional differences mean that words can mean something different somewhere else.

    Home:
    a : one's place of residence : domicile has been away from home for two weeks a place to call home
    b : house several homes for sale in the area
    2 : the social unit formed by a family living together trying to make a good home for her children comes from a broken home
    3 a : a familiar or usual setting : congenial environment; also : the focus of one's domestic attention home is where the heart is
    b : habitat the home of the kangaroo The island is home to many species of birds.
    4 a : a place of origin salmon returning to their home to spawn; also : one's own country having troubles at home and abroad
    b : headquarters 2 home of the dance company
    5 : an establishment providing residence and care for people with special needs homes for the elderly

    This is what it means, as you can see, it means many things, but they are all related to the base meaning of the word, which is a place where someone belongs, on a more sentimental way then what house means, if you think it's something else, then you are factually WRONG. End of story.

    There is no, my truth, your truth, what it means to me etc... There is, THE TRUTH, THE MEANING.
  • Odnoc
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    It means don't die, because low dps is better than no dps.
  • xxthir13enxx
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    Tasear wrote: »
    JinMori wrote: »
    There is no, what it means to me, words have a definition, dps means damage per second, it means doing damage while surviving, as much as you can do, that's it, everything else like support, self heal etc it's supplementary.

    Definitions involve with connotation that people apply to them. That's why some entries have more then one. For example the discused role means differently to different people. That's what's interesting. How people percieve the same concept.


    It was six men of Indostan,
    To learning much inclined,
    Who went to see the Elephant
    (Though all of them were blind),
    That each by observation
    Might satisfy his mind.

    The First approach'd the Elephant,
    And happening to fall
    Against his broad and sturdy side,
    At once began to bawl:
    "God bless me! but the Elephant
    Is very like a wall!"

    The Second, feeling of the tusk,
    Cried, -"***! what have we here
    So very round and smooth and sharp?
    To me 'tis mighty clear,
    This wonder of an Elephant
    Is very like a spear!"

    The Third approach'd the animal,
    And happening to take
    The squirming trunk within his hands,
    Thus boldly up and spake:
    "I see," -quoth he- "the Elephant
    Is very like a snake!"

    The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
    And felt about the knee:
    "What most this wondrous beast is like
    Is mighty plain," -quoth he,-
    "'Tis clear enough the Elephant
    Is very like a tree!"

    The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
    Said- "E'en the blindest man
    Can tell what this resembles most;
    Deny the fact who can,
    This marvel of an Elephant
    Is very like a fan!"

    The Sixth no sooner had begun
    About the beast to grope,
    Then, seizing on the swinging tail
    That fell within his scope,
    "I see," -quoth he,- "the Elephant
    Is very like a rope!"
    And so these men of Indostan
    Disputed loud and long,
    Each in his own opinion
    Exceeding stiff and strong,
    Though each was partly in the right,
    And all were in the wrong!

    MORAL,

    So, oft in theologic wars
    The disputants, I ween,
    Rail on in utter ignorance
    Of what each other mean;
    And prate about an Elephant
    Not one of them has seen!
  • Azgaran
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    JinMori wrote: »
    Allanm wrote: »
    @JinMori



    This is what it means, as you can see, it means many things, but they are all related to the base meaning of the word, which is a place where someone belongs, on a more sentimental way then what house means, if you think it's something else, then you are factually WRONG. End of story.

    There is no, my truth, your truth, what it means to me etc... There is, THE TRUTH, THE MEANING.

    Yes and no.

    With regards to effective communication connotation becomes more important than denotation. This is also true regarding the usage of correct grammar. As a salesperson it is important to me to match your usage in order to communicate effectively. If I don't then my chances of you buying a car from me drop regardless of how correct I am.

    Calling damage classes DPS dates back at least to Everquest. It may be an awkward way of describing classes in games but it is far more widely understood than calling them the newer name of DD.
  • JinMori
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    xxthir13enxx

    But remember, there is only one truth, it's a fact that words have a definition, a meaning, and words, just like the truth do not change at your subjective view, now you might argue that words are a human invention so they are more malleable, but words have a definition, and do not change based on your views, otherwise there is no objective standard to know what the other person is saying, and this could lead to dangerous paths, people are already trying to change the definition of some words to make them mean pretty much anything they want, and it's causing a lot of problems, especially in certain situation, which i won;t go into details here, which is why i do not stand for this.

    The main problem i have is the sentiment here, which seem to indicate that people find different meaning to a word then what is in the definition, if you think that, then you are in the wrong, and i can prove you are wrong, just by looking at the definition.
    Edited by JinMori on May 14, 2018 8:57PM
  • Tasear
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    Let's get back on topic, what about different classes? Anything different to say about them?
    Edited by Tasear on May 14, 2018 8:57PM
  • JinMori
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Let's get back on topic, what about different classes? Anything different to say about them?

    Mag den: weak
    Stam den: weak
    Stam nb:strong
    Mag nb: strong
    Mag templar:medium
    Stam plar: decent
    Mag sorc:medium
    Stam sorc: Pretty strong
    Mag dk:Good damage, bad sustain, next patch strong
    Stam dk:strong


  • Minyassa
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    Right now it kind of means to me constantly working to improve performance to play a character that, at the end of the day, I still love but nobody else does. It means being redundant and unwanted in the dungeon finder. It means being a dime-a-dozen. But it also means not taking a zillion years to kill landscape mobs so I can go about my business and not get too impatient and frustrated like I do on my tank.
  • Auros
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    When I look at the damage statistics in a 4 man group, I would recognize myself if my contribution is above 45%
  • Kuramas9tails
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    Not dying
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    • xxthir13enxx
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      JinMori wrote: »
      xxthir13enxx

      But remember, there is only one truth, it's a fact that words have a definition, a meaning, and words, just like the truth do not change at your subjective view, now you might argue that words are a human invention so they are more malleable, but words have a definition, and do not change based on your views, otherwise there is no objective standard to know what the other person is saying, and this could lead to dangerous paths, people are already trying to change the definition of some words to make them mean pretty much anything they want, and it's causing a lot of problems, especially in certain situation, which i won;t go into details here, which is why i do not stand for this.

      The main problem i have is the sentiment here, which seem to indicate that people find different meaning to a word then what is in the definition, if you think that, then you are in the wrong, and i can prove you are wrong, just by looking at the definition.


      Hmm...no actually Words definitely have varying definitions based on region and phrasing and era.

      Taking a ***
      Poking fun at someone
      Having a hissy fit
      Urinating

      In the Boot-
      In the Trunk
      In pair of footwear

      And on n on...words are not Math...they are Not set in Stone ...they Are open to interpretation.

      Oh n by the way...dictionary’s change and get updated....

      [Edited for bypassing the profanity filter.]
      Edited by ZOS_Mika on May 15, 2018 5:58PM
    • josiahva
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      Oh wait, I'm supposed to be DPSing? I thought I was queued as the tank...
    • Somber97866
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      25k= 90 % of game. 30k= 5%more 35k= rest of game.
    • anitajoneb17_ESO
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      25k= 90 % of game. 30k= 5%more 35k= rest of game.

      Hhhmmm... we did vAA HM with a group of 15K average DPS. Took us a while (nearly 30 minutes on last boss WITHOUT WIPING) but we did it. And it was MUCH MORE FUN than with a group able to burst everything down.

      Now let me expand on that in relation to the topic :
      A DD can be someone who stands still (or as still as possible) in order to do the most damage possible. Tank and healer are there to make it possible for them to stand still and not care about the damage they take.
      A DD can ALSO be someone who takes care of its moves, survivability, while doing as much damage as he can.

      Elite groups will choose the former definition. It makes, however, for quite boring fights. The 2nd option is much more fun.

      (And yes these are extreme cases, don't come up with : but I do it all, etc.)



      Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on May 15, 2018 5:58PM
    • Tasear
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      25k= 90 % of game. 30k= 5%more 35k= rest of game.

      Hhhmmm... we did vAA HM with a group of 15K average DPS. Took us a while (nearly 30 minutes on last boss WITHOUT WIPING) but we did it. And it was MUCH MORE FUN than with a group able to burst everything down.

      How did you get pass the mushroom lady? I always thought she was the dps race.
    • anitajoneb17_ESO
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      Tasear wrote: »
      25k= 90 % of game. 30k= 5%more 35k= rest of game.

      Hhhmmm... we did vAA HM with a group of 15K average DPS. Took us a while (nearly 30 minutes on last boss WITHOUT WIPING) but we did it. And it was MUCH MORE FUN than with a group able to burst everything down.

      How did you get pass the mushroom lady? I always thought she was the dps race.

      She is. But 15K per DD is enough. There are mechanics to take care of though (save ultis for adds, blocking when boss explodes, spread out/stack at precise moments, etc...)
      It requires an EXCELLENT raid leader and EXCELLENT knowledge of mechanics.


      Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on May 15, 2018 6:02PM
    • JinMori
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      JinMori wrote: »
      xxthir13enxx

      But remember, there is only one truth, it's a fact that words have a definition, a meaning, and words, just like the truth do not change at your subjective view, now you might argue that words are a human invention so they are more malleable, but words have a definition, and do not change based on your views, otherwise there is no objective standard to know what the other person is saying, and this could lead to dangerous paths, people are already trying to change the definition of some words to make them mean pretty much anything they want, and it's causing a lot of problems, especially in certain situation, which i won;t go into details here, which is why i do not stand for this.

      The main problem i have is the sentiment here, which seem to indicate that people find different meaning to a word then what is in the definition, if you think that, then you are in the wrong, and i can prove you are wrong, just by looking at the definition.


      Hmm...no actually Words definitely have varying definitions based on region and phrasing and era.

      Taking a ***
      Poking fun at someone
      Having a hissy fit
      Urinating

      In the Boot-
      In the Trunk
      In pair of footwear

      And on n on...words are not Math...they are Not set in Stone ...they Are open to interpretation.

      Oh n by the way...dictionary’s change and get updated....

      [Edited for bypassing the profanity filter.]

      Look, this will be my last post on this, because you guys just don't seem to get it.

      the point of language is to have a conversation with words that have a set MEANING, if the MEANING is open to interpretation, then you cannot have a conversation because you wouldn't know what the other person is trying to say.

      Words have a meaning, they are not open to interpretation, sit, is not open to interpretation, death, is not open to interpretation, you can make a phrase with it that could mean more then one thing, but the word itself has a definition.

      I feel like i'm taking crazy pills, because this seems just logic to me, i mean Jesus Christ, if words don't have a set meaning, then you can't have a conversation, this is like basic logic, and by the way, knight still means knight even after all these years, same for death, same for pretty much every other word, you can create new words to describe new things, but words that already have a definition tend to stay like that, because why would you suddenly change the definition of a word? What is the point? Just to create confusion? In time people might have added some new ways where a word can be used, but it's all related to the base definition of the word, Mountain doesn't suddenly become hill overtime, because there is no reason to do it.
      Edited by JinMori on May 15, 2018 8:46PM
    • Kiralyn2000
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      JinMori wrote: »
      xxthir13enxx

      But remember, there is only one truth, it's a fact that words have a definition, a meaning, and words, just like the truth do not change at your subjective view, now you might argue that words are a human invention so they are more malleable, but words have a definition, and do not change based on your views, otherwise there is no objective standard to know what the other person is saying, and this could lead to dangerous paths, people are already trying to change the definition of some words to make them mean pretty much anything they want, and it's causing a lot of problems, especially in certain situation, which i won;t go into details here, which is why i do not stand for this.

      The main problem i have is the sentiment here, which seem to indicate that people find different meaning to a word then what is in the definition, if you think that, then you are in the wrong, and i can prove you are wrong, just by looking at the definition.

      Couple issues there.

      For one, words don't have a single, carved-in-stone definition.

      Then there's dialects & languages - UK English and US English aren't the same, but even more than that, different dialects of UK English aren't the same as each other. Hell, different dialects of London English aren't the same, from what I understand. (Ditto with the US - just look at all the regional differences is whether people call fizzy drinks "soda", "coke", or "pop".)

      And that's before you add the layer of confusion that is jargon - i.e, the specific dialects of language & slang that develop within particular work or hobby communities.


      sit

      verb
      1. adopt or be in a position in which one's weight is supported by one's buttocks rather than one's feet and one's back is upright.
      2.(of a legislature, committee, court of law, etc.) be engaged in its business.
      3.British take (an examination).
      4.stay in someone's house while they are away and look after their house or pet.

      noun
      1. a period of sitting. "a sit in the shade"
      2. archaic the way in which an item of clothing fits someone.
      "the sit of her gown"

      And that's just the definitions in one dictionary.
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      JinMori wrote: »
      JinMori wrote: »
      xxthir13enxx

      But remember, there is only one truth, it's a fact that words have a definition, a meaning, and words, just like the truth do not change at your subjective view, now you might argue that words are a human invention so they are more malleable, but words have a definition, and do not change based on your views, otherwise there is no objective standard to know what the other person is saying, and this could lead to dangerous paths, people are already trying to change the definition of some words to make them mean pretty much anything they want, and it's causing a lot of problems, especially in certain situation, which i won;t go into details here, which is why i do not stand for this.

      The main problem i have is the sentiment here, which seem to indicate that people find different meaning to a word then what is in the definition, if you think that, then you are in the wrong, and i can prove you are wrong, just by looking at the definition.


      Hmm...no actually Words definitely have varying definitions based on region and phrasing and era.

      Taking a ***
      Poking fun at someone
      Having a hissy fit
      Urinating

      In the Boot-
      In the Trunk
      In pair of footwear

      And on n on...words are not Math...they are Not set in Stone ...they Are open to interpretation.

      Oh n by the way...dictionary’s change and get updated....

      [Edited for bypassing the profanity filter.]

      Look, this will be my last post on this, because you guys just don't seem to get it.

      the point of language is to have a conversation with words that have a set MEANING, if the MEANING is open to interpretation, then you cannot have a conversation because you wouldn't know what the other person is trying to say.

      Words have a meaning, they are not open to interpretation, sit, is not open to interpretation, death, is not open to interpretation, you can make a phrase with it that could mean more then one thing, but the word itself has a definition.

      I feel like i'm taking crazy pills, because this seems just logic to me, i mean Jesus Christ, if words don't have a set meaning, then you can't have a conversation, this is like basic logic, and by the way, knight still means knight even after all these years, same for death, same for pretty much every other word, you can create new words to describe new things, but words that already have a definition tend to stay like that, because why would you suddenly change the definition of a word? What is the point? Just to create confusion? In time people might have added some new ways where a word can be used, but it's all related to the base definition of the word, Mountain doesn't suddenly become hill overtime, because there is no reason to do it.

      Hey, it’s great to meet someone else with a functional brain.

      Skål. (That’s oldn Norse for “cheers”. Unless you want to decide it has a new meaning... I mean, that’s obviously a thing you can do now)
    • Bobby_V_Rockit
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      JinMori wrote: »
      JinMori wrote: »
      xxthir13enxx

      But remember, there is only one truth, it's a fact that words have a definition, a meaning, and words, just like the truth do not change at your subjective view, now you might argue that words are a human invention so they are more malleable, but words have a definition, and do not change based on your views, otherwise there is no objective standard to know what the other person is saying, and this could lead to dangerous paths, people are already trying to change the definition of some words to make them mean pretty much anything they want, and it's causing a lot of problems, especially in certain situation, which i won;t go into details here, which is why i do not stand for this.

      The main problem i have is the sentiment here, which seem to indicate that people find different meaning to a word then what is in the definition, if you think that, then you are in the wrong, and i can prove you are wrong, just by looking at the definition.


      Hmm...no actually Words definitely have varying definitions based on region and phrasing and era.

      Taking a ***
      Poking fun at someone
      Having a hissy fit
      Urinating

      In the Boot-
      In the Trunk
      In pair of footwear

      And on n on...words are not Math...they are Not set in Stone ...they Are open to interpretation.

      Oh n by the way...dictionary’s change and get updated....

      [Edited for bypassing the profanity filter.]

      Look, this will be my last post on this, because you guys just don't seem to get it.

      the point of language is to have a conversation with words that have a set MEANING, if the MEANING is open to interpretation, then you cannot have a conversation because you wouldn't know what the other person is trying to say.

      Words have a meaning, they are not open to interpretation, sit, is not open to interpretation, death, is not open to interpretation, you can make a phrase with it that could mean more then one thing, but the word itself has a definition.

      I feel like i'm taking crazy pills, because this seems just logic to me, i mean Jesus Christ, if words don't have a set meaning, then you can't have a conversation, this is like basic logic, and by the way, knight still means knight even after all these years, same for death, same for pretty much every other word, you can create new words to describe new things, but words that already have a definition tend to stay like that, because why would you suddenly change the definition of a word? What is the point? Just to create confusion? In time people might have added some new ways where a word can be used, but it's all related to the base definition of the word, Mountain doesn't suddenly become hill overtime, because there is no reason to do it.

      More “than” one thing...
      Edited by Bobby_V_Rockit on May 16, 2018 2:54AM
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      JinMori wrote: »
      JinMori wrote: »
      xxthir13enxx

      But remember, there is only one truth, it's a fact that words have a definition, a meaning, and words, just like the truth do not change at your subjective view, now you might argue that words are a human invention so they are more malleable, but words have a definition, and do not change based on your views, otherwise there is no objective standard to know what the other person is saying, and this could lead to dangerous paths, people are already trying to change the definition of some words to make them mean pretty much anything they want, and it's causing a lot of problems, especially in certain situation, which i won;t go into details here, which is why i do not stand for this.

      The main problem i have is the sentiment here, which seem to indicate that people find different meaning to a word then what is in the definition, if you think that, then you are in the wrong, and i can prove you are wrong, just by looking at the definition.


      Hmm...no actually Words definitely have varying definitions based on region and phrasing and era.

      Taking a ***
      Poking fun at someone
      Having a hissy fit
      Urinating

      In the Boot-
      In the Trunk
      In pair of footwear

      And on n on...words are not Math...they are Not set in Stone ...they Are open to interpretation.

      Oh n by the way...dictionary’s change and get updated....

      [Edited for bypassing the profanity filter.]

      Look, this will be my last post on this, because you guys just don't seem to get it.

      the point of language is to have a conversation with words that have a set MEANING, if the MEANING is open to interpretation, then you cannot have a conversation because you wouldn't know what the other person is trying to say.

      Words have a meaning, they are not open to interpretation, sit, is not open to interpretation, death, is not open to interpretation, you can make a phrase with it that could mean more then one thing, but the word itself has a definition.

      I feel like i'm taking crazy pills, because this seems just logic to me, i mean Jesus Christ, if words don't have a set meaning, then you can't have a conversation, this is like basic logic, and by the way, knight still means knight even after all these years, same for death, same for pretty much every other word, you can create new words to describe new things, but words that already have a definition tend to stay like that, because why would you suddenly change the definition of a word? What is the point? Just to create confusion? In time people might have added some new ways where a word can be used, but it's all related to the base definition of the word, Mountain doesn't suddenly become hill overtime, because there is no reason to do it.
      JinMori wrote: »
      Tasear wrote: »
      JinMori wrote: »
      There is no, what it means to me, words have a definition, dps means damage per second, it means doing damage while surviving, as much as you can do, that's it, everything else like support, self heal etc it's supplementary.

      Definitions involve with connotation that people apply to them. That's why some entries have more then one. For example the discused role means differently to different people. That's what's interesting. How people percieve the same concept.

      A word can mean some things, but it's all related to the base word, for example, kill can mean to kill a person, or to kill a project etc.... but it's all related to the base meaning of the word.

      I completely disagree with you there, if all people have their own definition for words, then you remove all standards from it, words need to be precisely defined, you can;t have a word that can mean a lot of things for different people, otherwise, you lose the ability to convey a message because of the inability to define your message, also this can be exploited with disastrous results.

      People go to prison for this garbage, it cannot stand, and while this discussion is inconsequential at the end of the day, words meaning many things is not.

      I do not think it;'s interesting what people think what a word means, i only care about what it actually means, what i do care about is if your argument is good, and whether or not it's true, that;s what interests me.

      A more correct question i think would have been, what do you do as a dps, rather then what does a dps mean to you.

      What nonsense...

      Sure when I say "Bowl" I mean a rounded object made to hold something. You hear "Bowl" and think the same thing. That's obvious, in order for language to have relevance then meanings of words have to be shared.

      But when I say "Mum" (or Mom) and you hear "Mum" there are completely different meanings, feelings, associations with that word. Maybe your Mum wasn't very nice, maybe she loved you more than mine did, maybe she's passed on, maybe she's a grandmother to your kids. There are so many experiences of what "Mum" is that nobody will share the same meaning.

      Sure "Mum" is also simply your female parent, biological or otherwise. But I doubt anybody limits the meaning of the word to just that.
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      I think a lot of Asian rpgs and mmo's use the term dps..

      A lot of western mmo's and rpgs use the term dd..


      I come from a majority asian mmo's so dps was standard.
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