What does being a dps mean to you?
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Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It's about carrying the team members who do no damage. Such as the tanks and healers.8 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No idea where this '25k' dps minimum came from that keeps being mentioned?
Is this in a dungeon boss fight for 1min with no group buffs
Trial boss for 10min with optimal group buffs
Dummy? What kind of dummy? Self buffed?
There is no magic universal number. Just pull to the best of your ability and see where it takes you8 -
Conduit0✭✭✭✭✭
✭No idea where this '25k' dps minimum came from that keeps being mentioned?
Is this in a dungeon boss fight for 1min with no group buffs
Trial boss for 10min with optimal group buffs
Dummy? What kind of dummy? Self buffed?
There is no magic universal number. Just pull to the best of your ability and see where it takes you
The 25k number refers to a self buffed 6mil dummy parse. The reason for that number is because it widely regarded that if you can reach 25k self buffed you have the capability to put out enough damage to pass the various dps checks that trials and even some vet dungeons put groups through.1 -
Vizikul✭✭✭✭huschdeguddzje wrote: »For me it means to spam snipe
Don't forget to weave in a light attack between every snipe. That's what the professional snipe spammers do.Pugging. Pugging all the way to victory.Imperial Dragonknight --- male, stamina, heavy & medium armor, dual wield, one hand and shield, two handed.
Breton Templar --- female, magicka, light armor, restoration staff.
Redguard Warden --- female, stamina, medium armor, bow.
Breton Sorcerer --- male, magicka, light armor, destruction staff.
Imperial Templar --- male, stamina, medium armor, two handed.
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klowdy1✭✭✭✭✭Facefister wrote: »Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Facefister wrote: »
Calling a DD as a "DPS" is still wrong no matter how many times it has been discussed. You don't call your Healer "HPS" nor you call your Tank "TPS" or "Taunter".boombazookajd wrote: »logarifmik wrote: »It's being a DD, not a DPS.
this debate has been covered ad nauseam. there's little point in trying to argue which is correct. The terms are used interchangeably.
Honestly never heard this "DD" thing until the arguments on this forum. Everywhere else.... "are you in tank spec, or DPS spec?" "got tank & heals, need DPS", etc.
(this seems to fit in the same category as arguing with people over "ATM Machine" "But you're saying 'machine' twice!"
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Well, it is the exact opposite for me. In my experience "DPS" is being used by people who can't speak english properly or at all.
It's semantics that shouldn't set people off to start insulting others.4 -
Gythral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭infinite dungeon queues with a boss that can only be slain but re-rolling as a Tank or Healer
But seriously it means I dont get bored to death by the inability to kill anything (in an acceptable time frame), which seems to be the life of of the other two parts of the trinity outside group content!“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No idea where this '25k' dps minimum came from that keeps being mentioned?
Is this in a dungeon boss fight for 1min with no group buffs
Trial boss for 10min with optimal group buffs
Dummy? What kind of dummy? Self buffed?
There is no magic universal number. Just pull to the best of your ability and see where it takes you
The 25k number refers to a self buffed 6mil dummy parse. The reason for that number is because it widely regarded that if you can reach 25k self buffed you have the capability to put out enough damage to pass the various dps checks that trials and even some vet dungeons put groups through.
Doing 25k dps on a stationary target does not equal doing 25k dps in a real boss fight. DPS is not all about numbers5 -
GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭Complaining about useless tank and stupid healer, oh and dying to every mechanic!!!PC/EU 800 CP.
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xxthir13enxx✭✭✭✭✭
✭Long story made short
People saying need DPS
Are actually saying...
Need a player with high Damage per Second output...
Personally, I hate when people use too many words to say something simple.
Like this Whole argument....waaay to much! Everyone knows what Everyone is referring to...so who G A F3 -
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✭✭✭Pew pew pew while standing in red stuff.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Conduit0✭✭✭✭✭
✭No idea where this '25k' dps minimum came from that keeps being mentioned?
Is this in a dungeon boss fight for 1min with no group buffs
Trial boss for 10min with optimal group buffs
Dummy? What kind of dummy? Self buffed?
There is no magic universal number. Just pull to the best of your ability and see where it takes you
The 25k number refers to a self buffed 6mil dummy parse. The reason for that number is because it widely regarded that if you can reach 25k self buffed you have the capability to put out enough damage to pass the various dps checks that trials and even some vet dungeons put groups through.
Doing 25k dps on a stationary target does not equal doing 25k dps in a real boss fight. DPS is not all about numbers
If you can't do 25k dps against a stationary target you sure as hell can't do 25k in a real boss fight. The test weeds out bad dps, because if you can't manage to hit 25k even under ideal circumstances then you're going to be utterly useless in an actual boss fight. Plus most of the dps checks are in fact stationary burn phases, making the dummy parses quite relevant.7 -
klowdy1✭✭✭✭✭No idea where this '25k' dps minimum came from that keeps being mentioned?
Is this in a dungeon boss fight for 1min with no group buffs
Trial boss for 10min with optimal group buffs
Dummy? What kind of dummy? Self buffed?
There is no magic universal number. Just pull to the best of your ability and see where it takes you
The 25k number refers to a self buffed 6mil dummy parse. The reason for that number is because it widely regarded that if you can reach 25k self buffed you have the capability to put out enough damage to pass the various dps checks that trials and even some vet dungeons put groups through.
Doing 25k dps on a stationary target does not equal doing 25k dps in a real boss fight. DPS is not all about numbers
If you can't do 25k dps against a stationary target you sure as hell can't do 25k in a real boss fight. The test weeds out bad dps, because if you can't manage to hit 25k even under ideal circumstances then you're going to be utterly useless in an actual boss fight. Plus most of the dps checks are in fact stationary burn phases, making the dummy parses quite relevant.
You're arguing with a brick wall.0 -
ZOS_HoldenCommunity RepHey there, @Tasear,
We'd first like to say, what the different roles mean to different players is an amazing topic, and we're loving the wide variety of answers we're seeing. In regards to what DPS means to us,
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✭✭As long as a dps Build has more than 17k health, decent resists or shields, can sustain itself if things get hairy and still pull 25k damage then by definition it’s a solid dps. No one should have a go at something that can do that. In trials I don’t care how outlandish a build is, if it can do those things it’s welcome, if it can’t and you willing to learn then you are still welcome4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭mesmerizedish wrote: »
You can refer to tanks however you like. Damage taker is also an acceptable term, albeit a bit harder to say.
DD is just better for me, for many reasons. It's shorter to type, shorter to say, and makes more logical sense than DPS.
By the way, figurative language doesn't apply to acronyms. Acronyms are shorthand for a long form term, but when read they are understood to mean the literal meaning of the term. Hence when you call yourself a "DPS", you are calling yourself a "damage per second".PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa0 -
People play how they want and if someone start trying to hard to have fun then it become a task or job! Then it is no longer fun and annoying!!! I have a job don't need a second one that I call a game!!!3
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ilikepickles✭✭✭ZOS_Holden wrote: »Hey there, @Tasear,
We'd first like to say, what the different roles mean to different players is an amazing topic, and we're loving the wide variety of answers we're seeing. In regards to what DPS means to us,
That is the only answer.
And you beat me to it. :C0 -
kittyluv4everSoul ShrivenI wouldn't know what being a dps/dd means as I find the light attack weaving to be tedious and clunky considering that your attacks only fire off on button release instead of button press like most mmo's do, so I main a healer which I really enjoy as it doesn't require all that weaving bs.4
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Itacira✭✭✭✭✭My previous online experience is from a FtP unknown probably shameful in MMO players' circles MMO in which the role's responsibilities weren't quite the same as TESO.
Tanks were mainly responsible for taunting and tanking. They would crowd control a bit and debuff some too but really most of it was concentrating in making sure the mobs hit THEM and THEM ONLY so that the healer(s) had a manageable workload.
Healers would heal (obviously), rez and buff. So much buffing. In-between, they were the ones in charge of another part of the group's debuffing of mobs. Depending on their specialization, they could also crowd control some, but that was a bonus.
Finally, DPS did more than merely hit and hit and hit, which so far - compared to what I've read on the subject of TESO dps-ing - felt like a more satisfying and balanced gameplay, imo. They'd deal damage and do some controlling with individual stuns and snares and such. Some debuff too. There was a lot of room for individual playstyles.
As much as I like TESO, I feel that the parties' roles are disappointingly unequal. Here, the crux of the party's survival relies solely on the tank and healer's shoulders - which explains why it's so much easier to find a group slot as a tank or healer compared to DPS, since most people will naturally want to do the most fun part of the playing.
These are my own two cents on the matter.PC/EU - PVE 2H stam orc petsorc (meta, what meta?) ww - terrible dps - mediocre player - fun times - free ww bites to whomever asks so don't be shy if interested2 -
DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭My previous online experience is from a FtP unknown probably shameful in MMO players' circles MMO in which the role's responsibilities weren't quite the same as TESO.
Tanks were mainly responsible for taunting and tanking. They would crowd control a bit and debuff some too but really most of it was concentrating in making sure the mobs hit THEM and THEM ONLY so that the healer(s) had a manageable workload.
Healers would heal (obviously), rez and buff. So much buffing. In-between, they were the ones in charge of another part of the group's debuffing of mobs. Depending on their specialization, they could also crowd control some, but that was a bonus.
Finally, DPS did more than merely hit and hit and hit, which so far - compared to what I've read on the subject of TESO dps-ing - felt like a more satisfying and balanced gameplay, imo. They'd deal damage and do some controlling with individual stuns and snares and such. Some debuff too. There was a lot of room for individual playstyles.
As much as I like TESO, I feel that the parties' roles are disappointingly unequal. Here, the crux of the party's survival relies solely on the tank and healer's shoulders - which explains why it's so much easier to find a group slot as a tank or healer compared to DPS, since most people will naturally want to do the most fun part of the playing.
These are my own two cents on the matter.
Thats what i've noticed too, in other games Dps would be crowd controllers as well as damage dealers.. its why DD makes no sense as a dps to me.. as they had multiple roles outside of hit hit hit....
Dps would be the ones flicking switches and opening doors, setting puzzle pieces etc because healers and tank roles had no time to do these things..
ESO players here really seem like they have never played real raids.Edited by DanteYoda on May 13, 2018 12:52AM4 -
Sting864✭✭✭✭Thats what i've noticed too, in other games Dps would be crowd controllers as well as damage dealers.. its why DD makes no sense as a dps to me.. as they had multiple roles outside of hit hit hit....
Dps would be the ones flicking switches and opening doors, setting puzzle pieces etc because healers and tank roles had no time to do these things..
ESO wannabes here really seem like they have never played real raids.
What would the tanks do, then?? Where are "real raids??" The Middle East??0
