GeorgeBlack wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Because ppl are terrified of confrontation and prefer fluff
Nope. See above.
You tend to avoid pugs...
You avoid confrontation
TequilaFire wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »It is all about ego, a player that doesn't like PvP can't handle they got beat by another player. In PvE if they get killed no one notices as much.
No, it's not "all about that". Believe it or not, some folks' egos aren't that fragile. It's simply a matter of PvP not appealing.
I make no bones about the fact that I am a mediocre player, at best, both PvE and, especially, PvP but it's not due to a fragile ego. I just don't enjoy PvP.
Define what is not appealing if it is not that, why don't you enjoy PvP?
Why does fighting computer scripted NPC not bother you but fighting human controlled character does?
It can't be because a person doesn't like killing as no one really dies. Also there is just as much salt in group PvE.
Don't get me wrong I respect your decision but I have found once a player that thought they hated PvP got over the dying part they actually stay and enjoy the mode.
Without intending to be ironic, I find PvP to be extremely repetitive. Once you get the right gear and skills, it all boils down to “run over here, capture this objective, now run over there and capture that objective...”.
It keeps me entertained for a little bit, but I can’t get drawn into it the way other people do. I just get bored.
DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »Some PVP players dont enjoy PVE either but have to do to get the gear and skills needed for PVP.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Because ppl are terrified of confrontation and prefer fluff
Nope. See above.
You tend to avoid pugs...
You avoid confrontation
What is the worst thing that can happen outside of your comfort zone??
I started again 2 days ago after a long break
I forgot the mechanics of Arx Corinium and at the first boss some idiot told me off
"We have no tank. DW cannot tank. Swearing and what not".
I got kicked out.
I joined again a pug. Tanking with DW. Again at the first boss I messed up.
During the fight somenody told me what to do.
We ended up finishing that run with 0 deaths.
Seriously the reason ppl are afraid of PvP is because they dont want to have adversaries.
They dont want to blow the bubble around them. So be it, no probs.
Just dont expect to be taken seriously when discussing Eso as a whole game.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Because ppl are terrified of confrontation and prefer fluff
Nope. See above.
You tend to avoid pugs...
You avoid confrontation
What is the worst thing that can happen outside of your comfort zone??
I started again 2 days ago after a long break
I forgot the mechanics of Arx Corinium and at the first boss some idiot told me off
"We have no tank. DW cannot tank. Swearing and what not".
I got kicked out.
I joined again a pug. Tanking with DW. Again at the first boss I messed up.
During the fight somenody told me what to do.
We ended up finishing that run with 0 deaths.
Seriously the reason ppl are afraid of PvP is because they dont want to have adversaries.
They dont want to blow the bubble around them. So be it, no probs.
Just dont expect to be taken seriously when discussing Eso as a whole game.
lucky_Sage wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »It is all about ego, a player that doesn't like PvP can't handle they got beat by another player. In PvE if they get killed no one notices as much.
No, it's not "all about that". Believe it or not, some folks' egos aren't that fragile. It's simply a matter of PvP not appealing.
I make no bones about the fact that I am a mediocre player, at best, both PvE and, especially, PvP but it's not due to a fragile ego. I just don't enjoy PvP.
Define what is not appealing if it is not that, why don't you enjoy PvP?
Why does fighting computer scripted NPC not bother you but fighting human controlled character does?
It can't be because a person doesn't like killing as no one really dies. Also there is just as much salt in group PvE.
Don't get me wrong I respect your decision but I have found once a player that thought they hated PvP got over the dying part they actually stay and enjoy the mode.
Without intending to be ironic, I find PvP to be extremely repetitive. Once you get the right gear and skills, it all boils down to “run over here, capture this objective, now run over there and capture that objective...”.
It keeps me entertained for a little bit, but I can’t get drawn into it the way other people do. I just get bored.
don't zerg 1vx or get a group of 2 to 8 to go wipe zergs then its fun then you see. when a group of 8 wipes a group of 30 its quite fun
The_Brosteen wrote: »Pvp is the true endgame
That notion upsets pve ers greatly
Tl,dr: PvPers are honourless attention seeking Scrubs getting carried by numbers and sets, who evade any form of fair competition. Not all, but the majority. Therefore, no need to waste too much time there, since you don't gain good fights anyways.
Vulsahdaal wrote: »As a PVEer, I dont hate PVP, but I am disgusted with it.
The thing is, until very recently, I didnt feel one way or the other about PVP. Whatever happens in Cyrodiil, can stay in Cyrodiil as far as I was concerned.
But a couple weeks ago, I decided my new character needed vigor and caltrops. So he unwillingly trudged his way into Cyrodiil, hoping to get these things as quick as possible and get out.
But as the days went by,surprisingly, it turned out to be rather enjoyable. Met some good people there, and had some really fun and memorable moments.
I remained there even after the vigor/caltrop goal was met. Even thought about getting some PVP gear and becoming more serious with it.
But, as all good things must come to an end, I was removed from the campaign when my character outleveled it
After a couple of days of my character sulking, missing his battle buddies and the action, decided to join a different campaign and maybe create some new memories.
Well, he did, but not good ones. It wasnt that the enemy was tougher, well I did die a little bit more often, but that was okay. My character is still new, needing to learn much and was still geared for PVE.
We were at an outpost we had, when it was noted that AD was coming our way. We took up defense positions, but soon into the fight we also noticed they werent alone. They had grouped together with EP to double team us. Frustrating, but it only made my character more determined to stay and kill any AD or EP he found.
What happened an hour later though, is what caused me to walk away from Cyrodiil. Attacking an AD keep where they had our scroll, and more groups of our own come in to join the fight. I remember vaguely thinking during the battle as we were winning, 'so where are your EP buddies now?' lol
I really did expect them to come hit us from the rear at any moment, but they never showed. We took the keep, and one of our other groups grabbed the scroll.
Those of you who are experienced in PVP probably know whats coming next, but some of us noobs didnt. We were doing repairs and happy in our victory, when someone said 'hey theyre going the wrong way. where they taking the scroll?'
We started to go after them, but there was nothing we could do but just helplessly watch as they went into EP territory and handed the scroll over.
It was at that point, became totally disgusted with PVP. Left that night, and havent gone back. At least in dungeons, trials etc we know who is on our side and who isnt.
I'll tell you, never even once in PVE, have I seen a few members of our group cut a side deal with Rakkhat to go into the next area and hang out/party with the shadows instead of killing them, so the rest of us could be defeated. But if it did, it would turn me off of these things as well :P
So again, I dont hate PVP, but I am disgusted with it. My character will always have great memories of Kyne, but afterwards, he would just as soon forget.