Ugh why is everyone talking about 3mil dummies? Burst fight where you don't need to even care about your resources and the whole parse depends on the crit chance luck. 6mil dummies are the real thing.
Can you guys please, please stop showing this guy 3 million dummy burst parses? This is really annoying me, you can't tell someone who is has yet to get into rotations and endgame dps burst parses that completely drain their magicka within 80 seconds.
What he needs is longer videos with sustainable rotations that you can actually fully sustain.
For newer players in trials the magicka drain is usually a lot higher than for experienced players on magicka builds because they tend to shield themselves a lot more. So what they need is a decent buildt that makes it easy to adapt to mechanics, basically an endgame starter build. pet sorcs qualify for that the best because they have a lot of passive damage and can simply heavy attack as a spammable skill..
The rotation that @Liquidpony showed above is probably the best advice in here.
Here's what I do when I want to get a toon trial ready:
1. Conceptualise a build. Look at the duration of damage over time effects, ground aoes and think of the best way to align them.
2. Fill the gaps with either a spammable skill or heavy attacks.
3. Stand in front of a centurion dummy and kill it. Only way to see whether what you do is sustainable within a trial and 20 minutes of the same rotation will nail it into your head...
Unless of course you already have 100% uptime on those buffs in which case weapon/spell power pots are completely and utterly useless ...WatchYourSixx wrote: »One mistake I see a lot of people do is not use weapon power pots or spell power pots.
Ugh why is everyone talking about 3mil dummies? Burst fight where you don't need to even care about your resources and the whole parse depends on the crit chance luck. 6mil dummies are the real thing.
Waffennacht wrote: »I wanna see someone without any trial gear or support using only trash pots get 30k dps.
And then I'd be happy to see it (say a sorc) with only 1 toggle
Unless of course you already have 100% uptime on those buffs in which case weapon/spell power pots are completely and utterly useless ...WatchYourSixx wrote: »One mistake I see a lot of people do is not use weapon power pots or spell power pots.
Unless of course you already have 100% uptime on those buffs in which case weapon/spell power pots are completely and utterly useless ...WatchYourSixx wrote: »One mistake I see a lot of people do is not use weapon power pots or spell power pots.
Which you won't.
DKs can give you Sorcery, and solo Surge is there. But Entropy is a big loss, as is Surge with a competent healer around. The same is true for Momentum.
And Prophecy/Savagery do not come easily at all times. While I can maybe see a magsorc double bar Inner Light, there's is no chance in hell stam toons would slot Expert Hunter. And of course, dedicating a five piece to it is probably worse than not taking the crit bonus at all.
No way around pots. Go collecting reagents!
Waffennacht wrote: »Unless of course you already have 100% uptime on those buffs in which case weapon/spell power pots are completely and utterly useless ...WatchYourSixx wrote: »One mistake I see a lot of people do is not use weapon power pots or spell power pots.
Which you won't.
DKs can give you Sorcery, and solo Surge is there. But Entropy is a big loss, as is Surge with a competent healer around. The same is true for Momentum.
And Prophecy/Savagery do not come easily at all times. While I can maybe see a magsorc double bar Inner Light, there's is no chance in hell stam toons would slot Expert Hunter. And of course, dedicating a five piece to it is probably worse than not taking the crit bonus at all.
No way around pots. Go collecting reagents!
No
Edit: I most certainly will not! I'll attain the required dps without a substantial loss to my inventory thank you!
Waffennacht wrote: »@LiquidPony I see two pets I see spell power pots and I'm curious as to how you get minor slayer?
Edit: pets are toggles imo, anything that requires double slots is a toggle
And vMA staff is a trial gear item. vMA is a solo trial
LiquidPony wrote: »Don't get your hopes too high.
In this game, regardless of gear and CP, you get:
- sub 20k DPS people
- sub 30k DPS people
- 40k and above people.
Going from one step to the next is simple to some - even with bad gear - and impossible to the most. Gear, weaving etc. help, but that accounts for 3-4k, not 10-15k.
It's totally possible and witnessed to see people with identical build and gear (and high CPs), using the same rotation and still some stay below 20k DPS even with trial gear and vMA staff.
Most hang at about 25-27k. and NEVER go above that (solo parse).
Then there's a sort of "magic hole" and the next you meet, are the 37k-42k people. Even if they spend a month explaining how they do that, you won't be able to replicate their performance and that's it.
Oy.
OP, do not listen to this fatalist nonsense.
Those categories are better stated as:
- people who don't practice at all
- people who practice a little bit
- people who practice a lot
And the right gear (and glyphs and potions and poisons and CP) along with weaving will easily make a 5-10k difference for some people.
LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@LiquidPony I see two pets I see spell power pots and I'm curious as to how you get minor slayer?
Edit: pets are toggles imo, anything that requires double slots is a toggle
And vMA staff is a trial gear item. vMA is a solo trial
@Waffennacht
I don't have Minor Slayer in that build. I'm using 5 x Necropotence (all purple), 5 x Mechanical Acuity (all purple), 1 x Molag Kena (purple), and vMA staff. No Minor Slayer there.
But anyway ...
https://i.imgur.com/xi0GhTd.jpg
That's with trash pots, no vMA staff (dead gold staff backbar), and just one "toggle" (Volatile Familiar). I believe all of these silly requirements have been met. ;-P
Gear: 5 x Necropotence, 5 x Mechanical Acuity, 1 x Kena, 1 x Netch's Touch backbar (the only dead staff I had on hand)
Front bar: Daedric Curse, Shock Clench, Volatile Familiar, Inner Light, Mage's Wrath. Greater Storm Atro.
Back bar: Liquid Lightning, Blockade of Storms, Power Surge, Volatile Familiar, Elemental Susceptibility. Destro Ulti.
Same rotation as before:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Curse, HA Clench, HA Pet Pulse, swap
repeat
I hit 30k on my first attempt. All parses were between 30.5k and 32k.
I then swapped out Necropotence for Netch's Touch, the pet for Bound Aegis, and Daedric Prey for Force Pulse, and hit 30k+ on several attempts with a slightly modified rotation:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, swap
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, HA Force Pulse, swap
repeat
CP probably could use optimization as this was all optimized pre-Dragon Bones. Rotations and gear may not be ideal either. Still, 30k no problem with trash pots and no Trials gear and some super-simple rotations that I just made up.
Waffennacht wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@LiquidPony I see two pets I see spell power pots and I'm curious as to how you get minor slayer?
Edit: pets are toggles imo, anything that requires double slots is a toggle
And vMA staff is a trial gear item. vMA is a solo trial
@Waffennacht
I don't have Minor Slayer in that build. I'm using 5 x Necropotence (all purple), 5 x Mechanical Acuity (all purple), 1 x Molag Kena (purple), and vMA staff. No Minor Slayer there.
But anyway ...
https://i.imgur.com/xi0GhTd.jpg
That's with trash pots, no vMA staff (dead gold staff backbar), and just one "toggle" (Volatile Familiar). I believe all of these silly requirements have been met. ;-P
Gear: 5 x Necropotence, 5 x Mechanical Acuity, 1 x Kena, 1 x Netch's Touch backbar (the only dead staff I had on hand)
Front bar: Daedric Curse, Shock Clench, Volatile Familiar, Inner Light, Mage's Wrath. Greater Storm Atro.
Back bar: Liquid Lightning, Blockade of Storms, Power Surge, Volatile Familiar, Elemental Susceptibility. Destro Ulti.
Same rotation as before:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Curse, HA Clench, HA Pet Pulse, swap
repeat
I hit 30k on my first attempt. All parses were between 30.5k and 32k.
I then swapped out Necropotence for Netch's Touch, the pet for Bound Aegis, and Daedric Prey for Force Pulse, and hit 30k+ on several attempts with a slightly modified rotation:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, swap
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, HA Force Pulse, swap
repeat
CP probably could use optimization as this was all optimized pre-Dragon Bones. Rotations and gear may not be ideal either. Still, 30k no problem with trash pots and no Trials gear and some super-simple rotations that I just made up.
I read the post below yours accidentally and that's where I saw slayer, I was REALLY hoping you wouldn't catch that before I edited my post! Lmfao.
Anyway! Innerlight!!!!!! Jk (kinda) this is what I'm looking for, ty. (It wasn't a challenge, it was an actual request lmfao)
Force Pulse and clench? I haven't tried both together before...
Do you have room for shields on your bar? I would run wrath but I don't have room
LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@LiquidPony I see two pets I see spell power pots and I'm curious as to how you get minor slayer?
Edit: pets are toggles imo, anything that requires double slots is a toggle
And vMA staff is a trial gear item. vMA is a solo trial
@Waffennacht
I don't have Minor Slayer in that build. I'm using 5 x Necropotence (all purple), 5 x Mechanical Acuity (all purple), 1 x Molag Kena (purple), and vMA staff. No Minor Slayer there.
But anyway ...
https://i.imgur.com/xi0GhTd.jpg
That's with trash pots, no vMA staff (dead gold staff backbar), and just one "toggle" (Volatile Familiar). I believe all of these silly requirements have been met. ;-P
Gear: 5 x Necropotence, 5 x Mechanical Acuity, 1 x Kena, 1 x Netch's Touch backbar (the only dead staff I had on hand)
Front bar: Daedric Curse, Shock Clench, Volatile Familiar, Inner Light, Mage's Wrath. Greater Storm Atro.
Back bar: Liquid Lightning, Blockade of Storms, Power Surge, Volatile Familiar, Elemental Susceptibility. Destro Ulti.
Same rotation as before:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Curse, HA Clench, HA Pet Pulse, swap
repeat
I hit 30k on my first attempt. All parses were between 30.5k and 32k.
I then swapped out Necropotence for Netch's Touch, the pet for Bound Aegis, and Daedric Prey for Force Pulse, and hit 30k+ on several attempts with a slightly modified rotation:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, swap
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, HA Force Pulse, swap
repeat
CP probably could use optimization as this was all optimized pre-Dragon Bones. Rotations and gear may not be ideal either. Still, 30k no problem with trash pots and no Trials gear and some super-simple rotations that I just made up.
I read the post below yours accidentally and that's where I saw slayer, I was REALLY hoping you wouldn't catch that before I edited my post! Lmfao.
Anyway! Innerlight!!!!!! Jk (kinda) this is what I'm looking for, ty. (It wasn't a challenge, it was an actual request lmfao)
Force Pulse and clench? I haven't tried both together before...
Do you have room for shields on your bar? I would run wrath but I don't have room
Sure, Elemental Susceptibility would be the flex spot where I'd put a shield, shouldn't need it in dungeons or anything anyway.
And regarding Force Pulse and Clench, I just threw something in there since Daedric Prey was useless without the pet and ran with it. Certainly not optimal or well thought-out. Might be better off using Haunting Curse instead but I don't have that morph.
Waffennacht wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@LiquidPony I see two pets I see spell power pots and I'm curious as to how you get minor slayer?
Edit: pets are toggles imo, anything that requires double slots is a toggle
And vMA staff is a trial gear item. vMA is a solo trial
@Waffennacht
I don't have Minor Slayer in that build. I'm using 5 x Necropotence (all purple), 5 x Mechanical Acuity (all purple), 1 x Molag Kena (purple), and vMA staff. No Minor Slayer there.
But anyway ...
https://i.imgur.com/xi0GhTd.jpg
That's with trash pots, no vMA staff (dead gold staff backbar), and just one "toggle" (Volatile Familiar). I believe all of these silly requirements have been met. ;-P
Gear: 5 x Necropotence, 5 x Mechanical Acuity, 1 x Kena, 1 x Netch's Touch backbar (the only dead staff I had on hand)
Front bar: Daedric Curse, Shock Clench, Volatile Familiar, Inner Light, Mage's Wrath. Greater Storm Atro.
Back bar: Liquid Lightning, Blockade of Storms, Power Surge, Volatile Familiar, Elemental Susceptibility. Destro Ulti.
Same rotation as before:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Curse, HA Clench, HA Pet Pulse, swap
repeat
I hit 30k on my first attempt. All parses were between 30.5k and 32k.
I then swapped out Necropotence for Netch's Touch, the pet for Bound Aegis, and Daedric Prey for Force Pulse, and hit 30k+ on several attempts with a slightly modified rotation:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, swap
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, HA Force Pulse, swap
repeat
CP probably could use optimization as this was all optimized pre-Dragon Bones. Rotations and gear may not be ideal either. Still, 30k no problem with trash pots and no Trials gear and some super-simple rotations that I just made up.
I read the post below yours accidentally and that's where I saw slayer, I was REALLY hoping you wouldn't catch that before I edited my post! Lmfao.
Anyway! Innerlight!!!!!! Jk (kinda) this is what I'm looking for, ty. (It wasn't a challenge, it was an actual request lmfao)
Force Pulse and clench? I haven't tried both together before...
Do you have room for shields on your bar? I would run wrath but I don't have room
Edit: I read it again, no shields. You don't PuG a lot do you? Lol
Edit again: I swear to God I'm gonna do something about auto correct...
Waffennacht wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@LiquidPony I see two pets I see spell power pots and I'm curious as to how you get minor slayer?
Edit: pets are toggles imo, anything that requires double slots is a toggle
And vMA staff is a trial gear item. vMA is a solo trial
@Waffennacht
I don't have Minor Slayer in that build. I'm using 5 x Necropotence (all purple), 5 x Mechanical Acuity (all purple), 1 x Molag Kena (purple), and vMA staff. No Minor Slayer there.
But anyway ...
https://i.imgur.com/xi0GhTd.jpg
That's with trash pots, no vMA staff (dead gold staff backbar), and just one "toggle" (Volatile Familiar). I believe all of these silly requirements have been met. ;-P
Gear: 5 x Necropotence, 5 x Mechanical Acuity, 1 x Kena, 1 x Netch's Touch backbar (the only dead staff I had on hand)
Front bar: Daedric Curse, Shock Clench, Volatile Familiar, Inner Light, Mage's Wrath. Greater Storm Atro.
Back bar: Liquid Lightning, Blockade of Storms, Power Surge, Volatile Familiar, Elemental Susceptibility. Destro Ulti.
Same rotation as before:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Curse, HA Clench, HA Pet Pulse, swap
repeat
I hit 30k on my first attempt. All parses were between 30.5k and 32k.
I then swapped out Necropotence for Netch's Touch, the pet for Bound Aegis, and Daedric Prey for Force Pulse, and hit 30k+ on several attempts with a slightly modified rotation:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, swap
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, HA Force Pulse, swap
repeat
CP probably could use optimization as this was all optimized pre-Dragon Bones. Rotations and gear may not be ideal either. Still, 30k no problem with trash pots and no Trials gear and some super-simple rotations that I just made up.
I read the post below yours accidentally and that's where I saw slayer, I was REALLY hoping you wouldn't catch that before I edited my post! Lmfao.
Anyway! Innerlight!!!!!! Jk (kinda) this is what I'm looking for, ty. (It wasn't a challenge, it was an actual request lmfao)
Force Pulse and clench? I haven't tried both together before...
Do you have room for shields on your bar? I would run wrath but I don't have room
Edit: I read it again, no shields. You don't PuG a lot do you? Lol
Edit again: I swear to God I'm gonna do something about auto correct...
You can do more or less 26-27k with trash pots, no vMA staff and a real, non cheese build that includes Surge and Hardened ward.
LiquidPony wrote: »Don't get your hopes too high.
In this game, regardless of gear and CP, you get:
- sub 20k DPS people
- sub 30k DPS people
- 40k and above people.
Going from one step to the next is simple to some - even with bad gear - and impossible to the most. Gear, weaving etc. help, but that accounts for 3-4k, not 10-15k.
It's totally possible and witnessed to see people with identical build and gear (and high CPs), using the same rotation and still some stay below 20k DPS even with trial gear and vMA staff.
Most hang at about 25-27k. and NEVER go above that (solo parse).
Then there's a sort of "magic hole" and the next you meet, are the 37k-42k people. Even if they spend a month explaining how they do that, you won't be able to replicate their performance and that's it.
Oy.
OP, do not listen to this fatalist nonsense.
Those categories are better stated as:
- people who don't practice at all
- people who practice a little bit
- people who practice a lot
And the right gear (and glyphs and potions and poisons and CP) along with weaving will easily make a 5-10k difference for some people.
10 cheese parsing youtubers don't represent anyone.
Overall players performance is represented by a gaussian curve of the whole playerbase, whose sigma and bell top points match what I say much more than what you believe.
Waffennacht wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@LiquidPony I see two pets I see spell power pots and I'm curious as to how you get minor slayer?
Edit: pets are toggles imo, anything that requires double slots is a toggle
And vMA staff is a trial gear item. vMA is a solo trial
@Waffennacht
I don't have Minor Slayer in that build. I'm using 5 x Necropotence (all purple), 5 x Mechanical Acuity (all purple), 1 x Molag Kena (purple), and vMA staff. No Minor Slayer there.
But anyway ...
https://i.imgur.com/xi0GhTd.jpg
That's with trash pots, no vMA staff (dead gold staff backbar), and just one "toggle" (Volatile Familiar). I believe all of these silly requirements have been met. ;-P
Gear: 5 x Necropotence, 5 x Mechanical Acuity, 1 x Kena, 1 x Netch's Touch backbar (the only dead staff I had on hand)
Front bar: Daedric Curse, Shock Clench, Volatile Familiar, Inner Light, Mage's Wrath. Greater Storm Atro.
Back bar: Liquid Lightning, Blockade of Storms, Power Surge, Volatile Familiar, Elemental Susceptibility. Destro Ulti.
Same rotation as before:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Curse, HA Clench, HA Pet Pulse, swap
repeat
I hit 30k on my first attempt. All parses were between 30.5k and 32k.
I then swapped out Necropotence for Netch's Touch, the pet for Bound Aegis, and Daedric Prey for Force Pulse, and hit 30k+ on several attempts with a slightly modified rotation:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, swap
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, HA Force Pulse, swap
repeat
CP probably could use optimization as this was all optimized pre-Dragon Bones. Rotations and gear may not be ideal either. Still, 30k no problem with trash pots and no Trials gear and some super-simple rotations that I just made up.
I read the post below yours accidentally and that's where I saw slayer, I was REALLY hoping you wouldn't catch that before I edited my post! Lmfao.
Anyway! Innerlight!!!!!! Jk (kinda) this is what I'm looking for, ty. (It wasn't a challenge, it was an actual request lmfao)
Force Pulse and clench? I haven't tried both together before...
Do you have room for shields on your bar? I would run wrath but I don't have room
Sure, Elemental Susceptibility would be the flex spot where I'd put a shield, shouldn't need it in dungeons or anything anyway.
And regarding Force Pulse and Clench, I just threw something in there since Daedric Prey was useless without the pet and ran with it. Certainly not optimal or well thought-out. Might be better off using Haunting Curse instead but I don't have that morph.
Does Prey lose dps when not running more than 1 pet? That's actually something I didn't even consider
LiquidPony wrote: »And if you think the population of people who can hit 40k (or whatever the high-end numbers are for a given build ... say 45k on a stamblade, 35k on a stamsorc, 40k on a magsorc, 40k on a stamDK, etc.) are limited to "10 cheese parsing youtubers," then I've got a bridge to sell you. I've got nearly 100 people in my guild alone on XB1 that can hit those numbers, and most of them can do it on multiple builds at any given time.
Those people are also all parked in front of a target skeleton half the time they're online. And before target skeletons were a thing, they were parked behind Bloodspawn doing the same thing with a stopwatch.
This game is not hard to play. We have a GCD. This isn't Starcraft or some other game where elite players are executing 500 APM.
LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@LiquidPony I see two pets I see spell power pots and I'm curious as to how you get minor slayer?
Edit: pets are toggles imo, anything that requires double slots is a toggle
And vMA staff is a trial gear item. vMA is a solo trial
@Waffennacht
I don't have Minor Slayer in that build. I'm using 5 x Necropotence (all purple), 5 x Mechanical Acuity (all purple), 1 x Molag Kena (purple), and vMA staff. No Minor Slayer there.
But anyway ...
https://i.imgur.com/xi0GhTd.jpg
That's with trash pots, no vMA staff (dead gold staff backbar), and just one "toggle" (Volatile Familiar). I believe all of these silly requirements have been met. ;-P
Gear: 5 x Necropotence, 5 x Mechanical Acuity, 1 x Kena, 1 x Netch's Touch backbar (the only dead staff I had on hand)
Front bar: Daedric Curse, Shock Clench, Volatile Familiar, Inner Light, Mage's Wrath. Greater Storm Atro.
Back bar: Liquid Lightning, Blockade of Storms, Power Surge, Volatile Familiar, Elemental Susceptibility. Destro Ulti.
Same rotation as before:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Curse, HA Clench, HA Pet Pulse, swap
repeat
I hit 30k on my first attempt. All parses were between 30.5k and 32k.
I then swapped out Necropotence for Netch's Touch, the pet for Bound Aegis, and Daedric Prey for Force Pulse, and hit 30k+ on several attempts with a slightly modified rotation:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, swap
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, HA Force Pulse, swap
repeat
CP probably could use optimization as this was all optimized pre-Dragon Bones. Rotations and gear may not be ideal either. Still, 30k no problem with trash pots and no Trials gear and some super-simple rotations that I just made up.
I read the post below yours accidentally and that's where I saw slayer, I was REALLY hoping you wouldn't catch that before I edited my post! Lmfao.
Anyway! Innerlight!!!!!! Jk (kinda) this is what I'm looking for, ty. (It wasn't a challenge, it was an actual request lmfao)
Force Pulse and clench? I haven't tried both together before...
Do you have room for shields on your bar? I would run wrath but I don't have room
Sure, Elemental Susceptibility would be the flex spot where I'd put a shield, shouldn't need it in dungeons or anything anyway.
And regarding Force Pulse and Clench, I just threw something in there since Daedric Prey was useless without the pet and ran with it. Certainly not optimal or well thought-out. Might be better off using Haunting Curse instead but I don't have that morph.
Does Prey lose dps when not running more than 1 pet? That's actually something I didn't even consider
I'm saying that in the Force Pulse rotation, which has no pet (Familiar was replaced with Bound Aegis, Twilight with Power Surge on the backbar and Inner Light on the front bar), Daedric Prey wouldn't do much good. Although, since I am using Greater Storm Atro there, it would buff the ulti. I suspect Haunting Curse would be better but I really have no idea.
I was using Daedric Prey in the version with Volatile Familiar.
And as I said previously, I'm using Elemental Susceptibility in the parse but that's where the shield goes. Even PUG groups should be able to keep Major Breach on bosses.
I PUG plenty. I use the double pet build in PUG groups and use the Twilight Matriarch for heals rather than Power Surge, though, since it's a huge burst heal that's good for the group. I also prefer Empowered Ward to Hardened Ward because Minor Intellect is a nice group buff that isn't readily available to most builds, and in most cases Hardened Ward is overkill.
LiquidPony wrote: »And if you think the population of people who can hit 40k (or whatever the high-end numbers are for a given build ... say 45k on a stamblade, 35k on a stamsorc, 40k on a magsorc, 40k on a stamDK, etc.) are limited to "10 cheese parsing youtubers," then I've got a bridge to sell you. I've got nearly 100 people in my guild alone on XB1 that can hit those numbers, and most of them can do it on multiple builds at any given time.
Those people are also all parked in front of a target skeleton half the time they're online. And before target skeletons were a thing, they were parked behind Bloodspawn doing the same thing with a stopwatch.
This game is not hard to play. We have a GCD. This isn't Starcraft or some other game where elite players are executing 500 APM.
Bolded the portion where you lost 99% of the players.
Normal people don't have hours a day to sit reharsing the same 10 buttons sequence like a top hard core guild of WoW times.
I did the same in 2007 when I was in a competitive top 100 WoW guild and played up to 14h a day, reharsing. I could not fail, I was the 2nd main tank and all would die if I failed.
Got really burned and since then I play non crucial roles (i.e. DPS) and truly don't care any more.
Going out of personal motivations, I've also noticed how to get to 35k I need to put my graphics resolution to 1980 Mario Bros mode (despite having 24GB RAM and nVidia 1060) and PRAY HARD to get < 200ms latency. Otherwise, good luck getting the various DoTs to match end to end. A game where you need some very high end rig and latency is (ofc) beyond your control is not a game where I am going to care.
Ugh why is everyone talking about 3mil dummies? Burst fight where you don't need to even care about your resources and the whole parse depends on the crit chance luck. 6mil dummies are the real thing.
LiquidPony wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@LiquidPony I see two pets I see spell power pots and I'm curious as to how you get minor slayer?
Edit: pets are toggles imo, anything that requires double slots is a toggle
And vMA staff is a trial gear item. vMA is a solo trial
@Waffennacht
I don't have Minor Slayer in that build. I'm using 5 x Necropotence (all purple), 5 x Mechanical Acuity (all purple), 1 x Molag Kena (purple), and vMA staff. No Minor Slayer there.
But anyway ...
https://i.imgur.com/xi0GhTd.jpg
That's with trash pots, no vMA staff (dead gold staff backbar), and just one "toggle" (Volatile Familiar). I believe all of these silly requirements have been met. ;-P
Gear: 5 x Necropotence, 5 x Mechanical Acuity, 1 x Kena, 1 x Netch's Touch backbar (the only dead staff I had on hand)
Front bar: Daedric Prey, Shock Clench, Volatile Familiar, Inner Light, Mage's Wrath. Greater Storm Atro.
Back bar: Liquid Lightning, Blockade of Storms, Power Surge, Volatile Familiar, Elemental Susceptibility. Destro Ulti.
Same rotation as before:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Curse, HA Clench, HA Pet Pulse, swap
repeat
I hit 30k on my first attempt. All parses were between 30.5k and 32k.
I then swapped out Necropotence for Netch's Touch, the pet for Bound Aegis, and Daedric Prey for Force Pulse, and hit 30k+ on several attempts with a slightly modified rotation:
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, swap
LA Liquid Lightning, LA Blockade, swap
LA Force Pulse, HA Clench, HA Force Pulse, swap
repeat
CP probably could use optimization as this was all optimized pre-Dragon Bones. Rotations and gear may not be ideal either. Still, 30k no problem with trash pots and no Trials gear and some super-simple rotations that I just made up.
LiquidPony wrote: »And PC performance is a poor excuse. People hit these numbers on the glorified potato that is the original XB1 using a vastly inferior input device.
God I'm sick of hearing game demi-gods claiming this is easy. I can trash mobs at 40-60k, kick dolmens and public dungeons solo, do some Craglorn group content solo (yeah, yeah, I know some of you can do this blindfolded), so I've got a few skills, but put be in front of a 3 ml test dummy and I can stand there buffing, de-buffing, laying down DoT's, and blasting with everything I've got while maintaining my resources and can still only manage about 10-12k at most. After 1700+ hours and a couple of DPS toons at 700+ CP, gold gear and staff, decent rotation skills, animation canceling (though I'm not really great at it) and I still comparably suck. Put me a vet dungeon where I'm running around trying to stay alive and my suckage meter goes up even further. As a result, I don't even try vet and any HM content as I'm tired of guys getting pissed and kicking me. Honestly, I'm doing the very best I can, but apparently there's something I'm missing? I have no clue how anyone can get even 20k out of a test dummy let alone maintain that level in a dungeon and/or trial. Am I forever doomed to an ESO life of suckage?
Ya im not sure how these guys claim 40k dps solo on a dummy. Someone show me a video of that. I feel like a have a decent handle on this game, meta gear, read just about the entire web on how to DPS on that stupid dummy. I can't get over 22k and I'm AC and weaving on my sorc. I could maybe squeak out another 2-3k dps if I was perfect in my rotation but getting over 30k doesn't seem possible. I was in the 10-12 range a few weeks ago, only ever PVP'ed in this game, but changing my skills to damage over time skills on top of direct damage made the difference to get to 20k.The trick is to have 2-3 damage over time skills always on the dummy then direct damage. Also make sure you have around 50% crit. Alcast site is a good starting point for PVE builds, at least it was for me.