40k on a test dummy?

Lord-Otto

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

I've briefly tested double pets. Alcast also mentioned that. Barely did anything to alter dps. But I didn't use Clench. Maybe I should try that. With Master staff? Or Moondancer? Or Infallible?

I'm also confused about the Maelstrom back. Pretty much everyone switched to nirnhoned. I thought infused was best single-target? Has that changed?
(o.0)

Oh, and I used Drain on LA rotations, Suspect on heavy.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Lord-Otto wrote: »

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

I've briefly tested double pets. Alcast also mentioned that. Barely did anything to alter dps. But I didn't use Clench. Maybe I should try that. With Master staff? Or Moondancer? Or Infallible?

I'm also confused about the Maelstrom back. Pretty much everyone switched to nirnhoned. I thought infused was best single-target? Has that changed?
(o.0)

@Lord-Otto
I believe in a pure single target situation, especially if you spend very little time on your back bar, that infused is the best option (i use a weapon damage enchant). The more time you spend on your back bar, or in the case of some builds where you use your back bar lighting for AOE damage, I think nirn becomes a stronger option. I carry both on my sorc, and honestly, dont see a lot of difference either way. It is certainly possible that nirn has pulled ahead this patch, but I try to refrain from making gear changes to my build in the first few weeks of a patch, until the dust settles.

I run my setup with a Master Architect lighting staff (same as moondancer for the 4 piece, and aether is also really close). I would run any of those that you have. Master Destro is great in PVP, but it only buffs the initial tick, so you are talking about a few k extra on one hit every 10 seconds, and the cost reduction is not necessary. The flat spell damage from the moondancer/architect/Aether, will buff everything.

Lord-Otto

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

I'll try it. My MA lightning will enjoy the attention.
=3
Thanks for the advice, man, always helpful!
(^_^)

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Lord-Otto wrote: »

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

I'll try it. My MA lightning will enjoy the attention.
=3
Thanks for the advice, man, always helpful!
(^_^)

Sure thing, bud.

Lord-Otto

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

!!! 44.7k !!!
\(^o^)/

Shantu

jakeedmundson wrote: »

you're doing great already... dont' be discouraged by someone that can hit 50k. Those people are few and far between.
They also have builds made specifically for getting high numbers on a dummy. Most of those aren't something you would have in a normal trial boss fight.

Just set little goals for yourself. 13-14k now.... aim for 20k. (it'll be easier than you think)
Then go for 25k. Once you're here, you have enough dps to pull your own weight in craglorn vet trials.

If you want to follow someone elses rotation (that seems to work well for many) i'll link one here...
https://tamrielfoundry.com/articles/the-moondancer-pet-magsorc-pve-build/

You don't need to change your gear for this.. just try swapping some skills. I personally use this setup and hit 37k (she hits 40k but has better gear than me)

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm not sure my meager brain is adequately wired for this stuff. I just too damned excitable. The moment I think I'm doing good, *** starts falling apart. But at least now when all the screws fall out I can still manage 13k. If I manage to keep a few screws intact I can do 15-16k. Even with a single, 4 cycle rotation with weaving a light attack between surge, blockade, LL, curse, pulse x2, heavy, and everything going smoothly, I can still only manage about 17. I still don't see how you guys pull off a sustained 30-40k so easily. It gets lonely in a penthouse with nothing but a candle, a dummy to abuse, and my never ending suckage.

Oh well, if everyone was a superstar, no one would be. Lol.

DoctorESO

Shantu wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

you're doing great already... dont' be discouraged by someone that can hit 50k. Those people are few and far between.
They also have builds made specifically for getting high numbers on a dummy. Most of those aren't something you would have in a normal trial boss fight.

Just set little goals for yourself. 13-14k now.... aim for 20k. (it'll be easier than you think)
Then go for 25k. Once you're here, you have enough dps to pull your own weight in craglorn vet trials.

If you want to follow someone elses rotation (that seems to work well for many) i'll link one here...
https://tamrielfoundry.com/articles/the-moondancer-pet-magsorc-pve-build/

You don't need to change your gear for this.. just try swapping some skills. I personally use this setup and hit 37k (she hits 40k but has better gear than me)

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm not sure my meager brain is adequately wired for this stuff. I just too damned excitable. The moment I think I'm doing good, *** starts falling apart. But at least now when all the screws fall out I can still manage 13k. If I manage to keep a few screws intact I can do 15-16k. Even with a single, 4 cycle rotation with weaving a light attack between surge, blockade, LL, curse, pulse x2, heavy, and everything going smoothly, I can still only manage about 17. I still don't see how you guys pull off a sustained 30-40k so easily. It gets lonely in a penthouse with nothing but a candle, a dummy to abuse, and my never ending suckage.

Oh well, if everyone was a superstar, no one would be. Lol.

Can you post a video? We can help!

Berenhir

OP's defensive (red) CP need a complete rework as well...

Jitterbug

"Cheesing a 3M dummy is an artform in itself"

Shantu

DoctorESO wrote: »

Can you post a video? We can help!

Here ya go. This is just a short 4 cycle rotation that I finished by spamming LA+FP until the dot's expired (which even inflates the dps a bit). This is actually my best attempt! Up until the end spam, it's the rotation I've been working on so hopefully you can get an idea of what I'm doing wrong. I've pretty much modified all my gear, glyphs, potions, and weapons per what's been recommended here, so it must come down to rotation. But even with improvement I'm still not seeing how I can even get close to some of the numbers you guys post.

https://youtu.be/N28LvGo7_G8

Shantu

Berenhir wrote: »

OP's defensive (red) CP need a complete rework as well...

Thanks. Any recommendations?

Valdek

Shantu wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Can you post a video? We can help!

Here ya go.

https://youtu.be/N28LvGo7_G8

It doesn't look like you have bound armor activated in that video. I think you should be purple and glowy. That would boost your magicka and therefore damage. It's difficult to tell in the video, but are you light attacking after casting every ability?

e.g. Liquid lightning - light attack - blockade of storms - light attack, etc

DoctorESO

Valdek wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Can you post a video? We can help!

Here ya go.

https://youtu.be/N28LvGo7_G8

It doesn't look like you have bound armor activated in that video. I think you should be purple and glowy. That would boost your magicka and therefore damage. It's difficult to tell in the video, but are you light attacking after casting every ability?

e.g. Liquid lightning - light attack - blockade of storms - light attack, etc

It also seems like there is an unusually long delay after swapping bars.

Camb0Sl1ce

@Shantu Looks like you're running a no pet build, you should be able to get off 5 skills and a heavy attack before your dots expire if youre quick enough. I can't speak for pc but I would recommend ending your front bar rotation with a force pulse instead of a heavy makes the swap faster and smoother. Maybe inatead of 5 skills on front bar try 4 so something like la curse la pulse heavy attack pulse la pulse swap.

Shantu

DoctorESO wrote: »

Valdek wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Can you post a video? We can help!

Here ya go.

https://youtu.be/N28LvGo7_G8

It doesn't look like you have bound armor activated in that video. I think you should be purple and glowy. That would boost your magicka and therefore damage. It's difficult to tell in the video, but are you light attacking after casting every ability?

e.g. Liquid lightning - light attack - blockade of storms - light attack, etc

It also seems like there is an unusually long delay after swapping bars.

Normally I have bound armor activated. I didn't in the video. Here's another one with it activated. You can see it makes little difference.
https://youtu.be/90SR2ZfKX70

And yes, I try to throw a light attack before everything. My parsing is a work in progress so I may miss a couple here and there.

I'll work on the delay after bar swapping, along with speeding up everything else I can. But is my rotation really so bad that I can only get 16-17k? If I drop an Elemental Storm ultimate to start I can briefly see my dps around 30k, but it fades quickly as the ultimate ends. I was able to pull about 16.5k this morning on a full 3 mil. But the gap between the 30-40k you guys are getting and what I can achieve feels huge. And while I'm open to being wrong and admit I need work on the parsing, the difference doesn't seem entirely attributable to bad rotation.

Thanks for your indulgence.

Valdek

If you are on a PC, you might find this useful. Keep clicking the mouse light attack all the time, then hit the next ability while your character is still light attacking. I've tried constantly clicking the mouse and it seems to automatically do 1 light attack and then the next ability with very small delay.

Runefang

Shantu wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Valdek wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Can you post a video? We can help!

Here ya go.

https://youtu.be/N28LvGo7_G8

It doesn't look like you have bound armor activated in that video. I think you should be purple and glowy. That would boost your magicka and therefore damage. It's difficult to tell in the video, but are you light attacking after casting every ability?

e.g. Liquid lightning - light attack - blockade of storms - light attack, etc

It also seems like there is an unusually long delay after swapping bars.

Normally I have bound armor activated. I didn't in the video. Here's another one with it activated. You can see it makes little difference.
https://youtu.be/90SR2ZfKX70

And yes, I try to throw a light attack before everything. My parsing is a work in progress so I may miss a couple here and there.

I'll work on the delay after bar swapping, along with speeding up everything else I can. But is my rotation really so bad that I can only get 16-17k? If I drop an Elemental Storm ultimate to start I can briefly see my dps around 30k, but it fades quickly as the ultimate ends. I was able to pull about 16.5k this morning on a full 3 mil. But the gap between the 30-40k you guys are getting and what I can achieve feels huge. And while I'm open to being wrong and admit I need work on the parsing, the difference doesn't seem entirely attributable to bad rotation.

Thanks for your indulgence.

It looks like on the first rotation you didn't get blockade off, you'll notice your DPS rose a lot on your second rotation because it went off then. Then on your third rotation you don't have liquid lightning any more and I think you only cast curse once the whole time? It can be hard to tell just from the visual.

Install Action Duration Reminder, it'll help you a ton tracking what abilities actually went off and how long they have left. It'll also help us see what you're doing better than relying on what we see under the dummy.

Don't despair too much, people that hit 35k+ on their parses have two additional things going:
Spell power pots so that their regen is high and their buffs have 100% uptime, they also never have to cast power surge
Elemental Drain - Major Breach will supply you a 4k+ dps increase when you're doing better

Runefang

Valdek wrote: »

If you are on a PC, you might find this useful. Keep clicking the mouse light attack all the time, then hit the next ability while your character is still light attacking. I've tried constantly clicking the mouse and it seems to automatically do 1 light attack and then the next ability with very small delay.

I'm going to have to try that....

Vahrokh

Shantu wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Valdek wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Can you post a video? We can help!

Here ya go.

https://youtu.be/N28LvGo7_G8

It doesn't look like you have bound armor activated in that video. I think you should be purple and glowy. That would boost your magicka and therefore damage. It's difficult to tell in the video, but are you light attacking after casting every ability?

e.g. Liquid lightning - light attack - blockade of storms - light attack, etc

It also seems like there is an unusually long delay after swapping bars.

Normally I have bound armor activated. I didn't in the video. Here's another one with it activated. You can see it makes little difference.
https://youtu.be/90SR2ZfKX70

And yes, I try to throw a light attack before everything. My parsing is a work in progress so I may miss a couple here and there.

I'll work on the delay after bar swapping, along with speeding up everything else I can. But is my rotation really so bad that I can only get 16-17k? If I drop an Elemental Storm ultimate to start I can briefly see my dps around 30k, but it fades quickly as the ultimate ends. I was able to pull about 16.5k this morning on a full 3 mil. But the gap between the 30-40k you guys are getting and what I can achieve feels huge. And while I'm open to being wrong and admit I need work on the parsing, the difference doesn't seem entirely attributable to bad rotation.

Thanks for your indulgence.

• Your rotation lacks of "fluidity". I don't know if it's due to some add-on causing you to lag or you not being trained enough. In order to get proper DPS I had to lower graphics settings, update all the add-ons (some don't show updates because somebody else picked them up and changed their name) and train, train, train! Expect several hours just to get proficient enough.
• You are not using elemental drain. Take out the shield and cast it. Or, better, cast spec elemental susceptibility so you only need to cast it once and it won't interfere with your rotation.
• I did not check if you are missing casting some ability. If you miss a DoT, you lose quite a lot of damage, especially without a pet
• I did not see well enough (don't laugh... I live on a tropical island with TONS of sun, which makes dark scenes hard to see), but... are you casting the curse with a proper timing?
• Bound armaments is not enabled. Without the attached bonuses you may lose 1-2k.
• You are using what I'd call a bad skills set / self made rotation. When you are very experienced you are welcome to brew your skills and rotation, but until then, you should pick a playstyle and see how others use it.
• Consequence of above: usually sorcs go for a crushing shock + crystal frags or an heavy attack rotation (with or without shock clench). You are using a sort of mixup, it won't work and your rotation requires CPs to be allocated in two diverging directions.
• Especially if you use crushing shock, you have to use spellpower potions with it, else you go out of magicka pretty fast. Plus it gives 20% spell damage and other effects.
• Ultimates matter: they have to be used, especially in target dummy parses. Some ultimates hit hard, others give static buffs (meteor) etc. The one you are using, is useful for other things, but not your PvE parse.
• I would leave light attack weaving to low priority until you are proficient with the above.
• Last but not least, install Combat Metrics add-on. You do a parse, then type "/cmx" on the chat and study your DPS components.

Once you have perfected your rotations and done the above, you should do 25k. The rest comes with vMA staff, with a proper front bar staff + jewelry, proper weapon swap animation cancels and other.

Merlin13KAGL

Vahrokh wrote: »

• I did not see well enough (don't laugh... I live on a tropical island with TONS of sun, which makes dark scenes hard to see), but... are you casting the curse with a proper timing?

@Vahrokh that must be tough on you...*wanders back out into the cold*

All excellent suggestions.

Also, OP, I don't recall if it's been mentioned already or not, but you can throw on regen gear (lich, seducer, amberplasm) purely for practicing rotations. It's not going to show your ultimate DPS, but you can practice timing for days without worrying about running out of resources.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Lord-Otto wrote: »

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

!!! 44.7k !!!
\(^o^)/

@Lord-Otto
I would be very interested in hearing what the parameters of that parse were and what gear you used.

jakeedmundson

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

!!! 44.7k !!!
\(^o^)/

@Lord-Otto
I would be very interested in hearing what the parameters of that parse were and what gear you used.

Talk is cheap. Post a video or it didn't happen.

jakeedmundson

Shantu wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

you're doing great already... dont' be discouraged by someone that can hit 50k. Those people are few and far between.
They also have builds made specifically for getting high numbers on a dummy. Most of those aren't something you would have in a normal trial boss fight.

Just set little goals for yourself. 13-14k now.... aim for 20k. (it'll be easier than you think)
Then go for 25k. Once you're here, you have enough dps to pull your own weight in craglorn vet trials.

If you want to follow someone elses rotation (that seems to work well for many) i'll link one here...
https://tamrielfoundry.com/articles/the-moondancer-pet-magsorc-pve-build/

You don't need to change your gear for this.. just try swapping some skills. I personally use this setup and hit 37k (she hits 40k but has better gear than me)

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm not sure my meager brain is adequately wired for this stuff. I just too damned excitable. The moment I think I'm doing good, *** starts falling apart. But at least now when all the screws fall out I can still manage 13k. If I manage to keep a few screws intact I can do 15-16k. Even with a single, 4 cycle rotation with weaving a light attack between surge, blockade, LL, curse, pulse x2, heavy, and everything going smoothly, I can still only manage about 17. I still don't see how you guys pull off a sustained 30-40k so easily. It gets lonely in a penthouse with nothing but a candle, a dummy to abuse, and my never ending suckage.

Oh well, if everyone was a superstar, no one would be. Lol.

If you want to do an easy build with no pets that can get over 20k.... here it is.

Gear is less important than you think... so don't worry about that yet until you try to push 30k. BUT most people have these sets...
Julianos (4 light body pieces, 2 lightning staves - infused - 1 flame enchant, other spell damage)
Any magicka monster set (illambris/grothdar/zaan/skoria/etc.)
Any other set with decent 2,3, and 4 piece bonus that has jewelry. (vampire lord is SUPER cheap in traders) Use 1 body and 3 blue/purple jewelry all with spell damage enchants.

Front and back bar a lightning staff.

apprentice or thief mundus works

Front bar - Curse, mages wrath, bound aegis, inner light, ward (hardened or empowered), destro ultimate
Back bar - wall of elements, liquid lightning, bound aegis, inner light, power surge, storm atro or meteor

Rotation is simple...heavy attack between every skill. Use any generic CP setup (maybe put a few points into the heavy attack bonus)

WoE, Heavy Attack (HA), liquid lightning, bar swap
Heavy attack, haunting curse, HA (1 or 2 times) repeat

drop ultis when you get them. when target is below 20%, hit 3 or 4 mages wraths instead of the 2 heavy attacks at the end of the rotation.

I tried this recently and it worked well... super easy, no sustain problems. your DoT rotation here is 8 seconds, 10 seconds, and 12 seconds. they are easy to reapply without dropping off.

Lord-Otto

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

!!! 44.7k !!!
\(^o^)/

@Lord-Otto
I would be very interested in hearing what the parameters of that parse were and what gear you used.

Nothing special, really. I think I just lucked out on the crits and Implosion.

Gear was 5 Necro, 4 MA, 2 Ilamb, 1 Mael. Double infused lightning staves. Blue food. Lover Mundus. Fire glyph front, damage back.

Rotation is the one you posted, but with only one heavy attack. So LL-EB-HA-Scamp-Prey-Clench, with Tormentor every two rotations and Destro ult at the start, Meteor when it was up (which was at around 20%, very early). Elemental Suspectibility pre-applied.

That was on the 3M skelly, and I just ran dry when it died. On a 6M, you'd definitely need Elemental Drain, Wormcult and orbs to keep it up. But that should be sufficient, I think.


I have a screenshot of that. I tried a clip, but I started recording too late, and my box refused to make a clip.
=<
On a later parse with not optimized setup, I still got over 40k easily, so it's safe to say the rotation works. Just gotta be mindful of situations where the pets can actually die.
(^_^)'

Shantu

Again, thanks so much for the feedback.

I've been sticking with this rotation found reading over at missbizzplays:


@Vahrokh
A lot of good info mate. Thanks. I know I still lack some fluidity as my dsp fluctuates 3-4k depending on how well I'm running and hitting all cylinders on the rotation. I still can't manage over 17k on a full 3 mil.

Not sure what you mean by "You are using what I'd call a bad skills set / self made rotation" and "You are using a sort of mixup, it won't work and your rotation requires CPs to be allocated in two diverging directions." Swoosh! Right over my head! All I really use is surge, blockade, LL, force pulse, curse, and light and heavy attacks. Thought that was pretty standard.

I've put in over 20 hours of just slamming that dummy since I started this thread. You guys make it sound so easy, and I have no doubt it is for you, but it gets discouraging. I've watched that video on this thread 20 times and he doesn't seem to be doing much of anything to get 40k. While I've doubled my dps with the practice and recommendations here, even 25k feels like a pipe dream.

@Lord-Otto
I worked a bit at the heavy rotation you recommended but could only manage about 10-11k. I don't know what the deal is. I have no idea how some of you are getting 30-40k numbers just using heavy attacks.

Tried cycling in some Elemental Drain and started using my ultimates. It helps but not getting me over that 20k hump. What I really need some of that top secret dps fairy dust you guys are hiding

Vahrokh

Shantu wrote: »

Again, thanks so much for the feedback.

I've been sticking with this rotation found reading over at missbizzplays:


@Vahrokh
A lot of good info mate. Thanks. I know I still lack some fluidity as my dsp fluctuates 3-4k depending on how well I'm running and hitting all cylinders on the rotation. I still can't manage over 17k on a full 3 mil.

Not sure what you mean by "You are using what I'd call a bad skills set / self made rotation" and "You are using a sort of mixup, it won't work and your rotation requires CPs to be allocated in two diverging directions." Swoosh! Right over my head! All I really use is surge, blockade, LL, force pulse, curse, and light and heavy attacks. Thought that was pretty standard.

I've put in over 20 hours of just slamming that dummy since I started this thread. You guys make it sound so easy, and I have no doubt it is for you, but it gets discouraging. I've watched that video on this thread 20 times and he doesn't seem to be doing much of anything to get 40k. While I've doubled my dps with the practice and recommendations here, even 25k feels like a pipe dream.

Thank you!
The "bad skills set / self made rotation" etc. suspicion, is confirmed by the picture you have just posted. You are - rightly - looking everywhere for some good info to help you perform better. What usually happens, though, is that you find:

- contradictory information
- old patch information
- just wrong information
- "cheese parsing" oriented information.

In example, you may find Youtube videos where a guy posts a pet build but he uses daedric curse instead of prey.
Or you may find a guy with gear and CPs totally oriented at looking good on a 3M target dummy but suck in a real trial. The "42k DPS self buffed" title helps him get Youtube views, which is not necessarily your objective (which is to get useable, real world DPS).
Plus, you can find crushing shock + frags rotations, clench rotations, HA rotations, each of them has different CP trees to spend points in. Generally, you spend CPs in direct damage for "spammables" rotations (crushing shock), in LL + HA damage for HA rotations, other combos for other rotations.

Furthermore, if you go "low crit, high magicka" (typically with pet) you want to use certain gear combos. If you go high crit you might need to put 1 health enchant, you have a "low" magicka pool and you definitely need to spam expensive spellpower pots.

Finally, you might have to slot Inner Light, which boosts magicka and crit and naturally meshes in with certain builds better than other.

Which one is what you choose?

Because if you go crushing shock + frags (this is what I see in your videos):
- you are not using spellpower pots
- you are heavy attacking (HA), which is something you need to do way later in the parse (last half or less of target dummy health) or you lose lots of DPS. You may tell: "I am going to finish my magicka if I wait!". No, you are going to finish magicka because you have picked an extremely taxing spec but don't use the expensive pots it requires and you stick to (cheap indeed!) surge like you are using an HA rotation.

Basically, read information and truly understand your spec mechanics at depth, beginning with the pros and cons of it.

FastBen

Why is all that fuss anyway. In real situation all that doesn’t matter. I want to see someone doing 40k dps while he is shielding, dodge-rolling, blocking, breaking free and watching for the mechanics in the dungeon. So all the videos with 40k and more dps are just for boosting their ego. It is more important to react adequately in a situation, because bosses won’t stay still waiting for you to do your “rotation”.
I don’t know, I just don’t care what a dummy says

Merlin13KAGL

FastBen wrote: »

Why is all that fuss anyway. In real situation all that doesn’t matter. I want to see someone doing 40k dps while he is shielding, dodge-rolling, blocking, breaking free and watching for the mechanics in the dungeon. So all the videos with 40k and more dps are just for boosting their ego. It is more important to react adequately in a situation, because bosses won’t stay still waiting for you to do your “rotation”.
I don’t know, I just don’t care what a dummy says

Beacuse it's a baseline, and one of the few common baselines the game can have.

In an actual setting, your DPS should go up due to group buffs.

In an actual setting, your DPS will also go down due to mechanics, survivability requirements, group support (rez's, etc).

Ideally, as you get better with the class, your DPS will go up more than it goes down. Higher DPS means less worry about the other aspects, allowing it to go up even further.

Since the target takes away both factors, it represents a good starting point, since it is much more comparable under ideal circumstances than any live test ever could be.

Lord-Otto

@Shantu

Do you have the right gear for that heavy rotation? Major damage comes from the pets, and you need to feed them magicka or crit with Necropotence or Mother's Sorrow. If you use TBS, you'll see way weaker numbers. There's also the Maelstrom staff and trial set to be considered, and everything is golded out. I think the gear ruins the pet rotation for you.

Overall, your rotations in the clips look acceptable to me. I'm guessing you should see a dramatic dps increase with better gear.
Necropotence for pets, Julianos for non-pet are easily available.
Jewelry Willpower is a staple in guild stores, but it costs a bit gold. Could also run daily random dungeon on your chars to get it in the reward mail.
Ilambris is a very nice dps proc set. You can get the head from Crypt of Hearts I, which is a super easy dungeon and gets frequently farmed for that head, Lich and Ebon stuff, and even Leviathan sometimes. Just queu up in dungeon finder, it shouldn't take too long to get a decent group. And it's worth it! Get the shoulder from chest. Normal pledges are easy and give you a key. Two keys per day per character and a bit of luck should get you the shoulder quite quickly. You also wanna level the Undaunted skill line, anyway.
The Maelstrom staff can wait, obviously. (^_^)' You might wanna get a normal Asylum staff if you use a Force Pulse rotation. nAS is fairly easy and takes a competent group not even ten minutes to complete. I often see guildies asking simply for filling a spot, just to get 12 out of 12 drops, player capabilities aside. Maybe you're in a guild or know decent players who can use you as such "filler". It would be worth it. You want fire on front with Force Pulse rotation, btw.

Potions are expensive. No shame in using Surge for now. But maybe for the next serious dps dummy parse you wanna use the spellpowercrit potion, just to see what your potential really is. Use normal dropped potions for normal play.
Look out for Witchmother's Brew with a FP rotation. Blue food is for heavy rotations. Brew gets sold by guilds, but it can be somewhat costly. Maybe if you're in a guild and ask someone to make it if you provide the materials, you can save a bit coin. Have all characters with maxed Provisioning skill and Hireling passive to maximize your income of the rare ingredient - Bervez Juice. Also do daily writs!

Shantu

FastBen wrote: »

Why is all that fuss anyway. In real situation all that doesn’t matter. I want to see someone doing 40k dps while he is shielding, dodge-rolling, blocking, breaking free and watching for the mechanics in the dungeon. So all the videos with 40k and more dps are just for boosting their ego. It is more important to react adequately in a situation, because bosses won’t stay still waiting for you to do your “rotation”.
I don’t know, I just don’t care what a dummy says

I totally hear you. But...

Take my experience. After 1700+ hours of game play I developed a certain combat style. I call it trash. I didn't have any rotation to speak of but could trash huge mobs with ease. I could solo Dolmens, public dungeons, and some Craglorn group content, no problem. Normal dungeons I could hold my own (sorta). This was fun and all fine and good. But when I started the harder vet dungeon content and found myself dealing with 4-5 mil bosses I had guys getting pissed and booting my butt. And though some of it was pretty crass, I couldn't blame them. Who wants to take on vet content with a dude running around getting killed and pulling about 6k from a boss?

So, I figure, if I'm going to be able to progress beyond what I'm doing, I'll have to change my combat tactics, optimize gear, buffs, glyphs, rotation, and develop a style that could substantially up my dps so I can better contribute to groups and engage the more difficult content.

Enter the dummy (no, not me).

I fully understand that whatever dps skill I can achieve on the dummy will take a substantial hit in a live vet dungeon. But I figure if I can get my dummy dps up to around 30k, minus the performance hit when going live, I'll be at a place where I can constructive contribute and my sore butt can take a breather from being kicked. Still don't know if I can pull it off, but if can't, it's not going to be for lack of effort.