Should we not have a low cost, semi-spammable ulti option for one or two classes in the game?
No we shouldn’t, and especially not if it is a powerful ability. The words „ulti“ and „spammable“ are contradictory.
You mean like dk's running dragon set, blood spawn, and/or decisive and "seemingly" spamming leap every 2 attacks?
Not 100% sure i agree to bohn and subersus - mainly bc of how buggy cloak and shade are atm.
Otherwise yes i agree. Magblade is about the only char that feels fine and looks fine on paper!
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »What baffles me is that Soul Harvest was un-dogable (according to ZOS due to a bug because in the past every magicka based skill was un-dogable and now they are fixing it) - just for a comparison - warden has un-dodgable ranged spam-able (Dive & its morphs).
Just listen to how that sounds:
A dodgeable ULTIMATE vs undodgeable ranged spam-able
They are only the best when they hit.
Players now have "passive dodge chance", how many incaps do you expect me to perform before one finally hits?
I am wondering why soul harvest & incap are dodgable when plenty of other hard hitting ults are not dodgable. I.e... dk leap & meteor
Why not just make all ultimate not dodgable so players must block to mitigate damage?
I am wondering why soul harvest & incap are dodgable when plenty of other hard hitting ults are not dodgable. I.e... dk leap & meteor
Why not just make all ultimate not dodgable so players must block to mitigate damage?
Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I am wondering why soul harvest & incap are dodgable when plenty of other hard hitting ults are not dodgable. I.e... dk leap & meteor
Why not just make all ultimate not dodgable so players must block to mitigate damage?
Why not just make all ultimates go through dodge, block and shields? Sounds stupid, right?
They are only the best when they hit.
Players now have "passive dodge chance", how many incaps do you expect me to perform before one finally hits?
Are you serious?
Maybe 15% of all players on cyro are running medium thus having access to major evasion.
15% of the skills you use against those 15% will be dodged.
2.25% of your overall used skills will be dodged by passive dodgeing.
And hitting incap on a target that has no shuffle is the easiest task in this game, simple AC and you can ignore random dodgeroll aswell because it lands so fast
Incap is in need for nerfs not buffs and Soul Harvest will be balanced by a nerf to incap.
They are only the best when they hit.
Players now have "passive dodge chance", how many incaps do you expect me to perform before one finally hits?
Are you serious?
Maybe 15% of all players on cyro are running medium thus having access to major evasion.
15% of the skills you use against those 15% will be dodged.
2.25% of your overall used skills will be dodged by passive dodgeing.
And hitting incap on a target that has no shuffle is the easiest task in this game, simple AC and you can ignore random dodgeroll aswell because it lands so fast
Incap is in need for nerfs not buffs and Soul Harvest will be balanced by a nerf to incap.
Why on earth would you say incap needs nerfs when even stamblades often use dawn breaker b/c aoe
I thought this was a "buff soul harvest thread" not a "nerf incap thread"
They are only the best when they hit.
Players now have "passive dodge chance", how many incaps do you expect me to perform before one finally hits?
Are you serious?
Maybe 15% of all players on cyro are running medium thus having access to major evasion.
15% of the skills you use against those 15% will be dodged.
2.25% of your overall used skills will be dodged by passive dodgeing.
And hitting incap on a target that has no shuffle is the easiest task in this game, simple AC and you can ignore random dodgeroll aswell because it lands so fast
Incap is in need for nerfs not buffs and Soul Harvest will be balanced by a nerf to incap.
Why on earth would you say incap needs nerfs when even stamblades often use dawn breaker b/c aoe
I thought this was a "buff soul harvest thread" not a "nerf incap thread"
Dude, if stamnbs use Dawnbreaker they are bad, period. Incap is the best single target ult by far in this game.
We don't Need to buff Soul harvest to make it as overperforming as Incap is right now.
People are far too used to get their easy kills with incap that they think every ult should be like that but no.
Soul Harvest is the Morph which incap should be balanced around not vice versa.
They are only the best when they hit.
Players now have "passive dodge chance", how many incaps do you expect me to perform before one finally hits?
Are you serious?
Maybe 15% of all players on cyro are running medium thus having access to major evasion.
15% of the skills you use against those 15% will be dodged.
2.25% of your overall used skills will be dodged by passive dodgeing.
And hitting incap on a target that has no shuffle is the easiest task in this game, simple AC and you can ignore random dodgeroll aswell because it lands so fast
Incap is in need for nerfs not buffs and Soul Harvest will be balanced by a nerf to incap.
Why on earth would you say incap needs nerfs when even stamblades often use dawn breaker b/c aoe
I thought this was a "buff soul harvest thread" not a "nerf incap thread"
Dude, if stamnbs use Dawnbreaker they are bad, period. Incap is the best single target ult by far in this game.
We don't Need to buff Soul harvest to make it as overperforming as Incap is right now.
People are far too used to get their easy kills with incap that they think every ult should be like that but no.
Soul Harvest is the Morph which incap should be balanced around not vice versa.
I guess we just have to disagree on this topic as I believe the opposite; that soul harvest should be buffed. I'm not debating how strong incap is, just saying that it's single target which makes it weaker than dawnbreaker in group play or an instance fighting multiple opponents.
I am wondering why soul harvest & incap are dodgable when plenty of other hard hitting ults are not dodgable. I.e... dk leap & meteor
Why not just make all ultimate not dodgable so players must block to mitigate damage?
I am wondering why soul harvest & incap are dodgable when plenty of other hard hitting ults are not dodgable. I.e... dk leap & meteor
Why not just make all ultimate not dodgable so players must block to mitigate damage?
You mean that Meteor that hits a blocking target in most cases unless it has no stamina left? That Meteor that has the most visible audio and visual telegraphs in the whole game? That Meteor that requires running your opponent out of stamina and well timed CC to actually kill? That one? Yes. It really hits hard. When you’re not blocking and staying in the ground AoE. It would be hilarious if this were dodgeable on top.
I am wondering why soul harvest & incap are dodgable when plenty of other hard hitting ults are not dodgable. I.e... dk leap & meteor
Why not just make all ultimate not dodgable so players must block to mitigate damage?
You mean that Meteor that hits a blocking target in most cases unless it has no stamina left? That Meteor that has the most visible audio and visual telegraphs in the whole game? That Meteor that requires running your opponent out of stamina and well timed CC to actually kill? That one? Yes. It really hits hard. When you’re not blocking and staying in the ground AoE. It would be hilarious if this were dodgeable on top.
Well you already have access to an undodgeable unblockable stun that is perfectly delayed to make meteor or frags hit with a 100% chance.
The only class that still has to worry about hitting ults on blocking targets is templar all others have no reason to complain
I am wondering why soul harvest & incap are dodgable when plenty of other hard hitting ults are not dodgable. I.e... dk leap & meteor
Why not just make all ultimate not dodgable so players must block to mitigate damage?
You mean that Meteor that hits a blocking target in most cases unless it has no stamina left? That Meteor that has the most visible audio and visual telegraphs in the whole game? That Meteor that requires running your opponent out of stamina and well timed CC to actually kill? That one? Yes. It really hits hard. When you’re not blocking and staying in the ground AoE. It would be hilarious if this were dodgeable on top.
Well you already have access to an undodgeable unblockable stun that is perfectly delayed to make meteor or frags hit with a 100% chance.
The only class that still has to worry about hitting ults on blocking targets is templar all others have no reason to complain
Rune Cage into Meteor is strong, no doubt. It shouldn’t be that way, and it has nothing to do with Meteor. It’s the wonky animation of Rune Cage that is to blame. I do wish Sorc would get a complete overhaul.
They are only the best when they hit.
Players now have "passive dodge chance", how many incaps do you expect me to perform before one finally hits?
Are you serious?
Maybe 15% of all players on cyro are running medium thus having access to major evasion.
15% of the skills you use against those 15% will be dodged.
2.25% of your overall used skills will be dodged by passive dodgeing.
And hitting incap on a target that has no shuffle is the easiest task in this game, simple AC and you can ignore random dodgeroll aswell because it lands so fast
Incap is in need for nerfs not buffs and Soul Harvest will be balanced by a nerf to incap.
Why on earth would you say incap needs nerfs when even stamblades often use dawn breaker b/c aoe
I thought this was a "buff soul harvest thread" not a "nerf incap thread"
Dude, if stamnbs use Dawnbreaker they are bad, period. Incap is the best single target ult by far in this game.
We don't Need to buff Soul harvest to make it as overperforming as Incap is right now.
People are far too used to get their easy kills with incap that they think every ult should be like that but no.
Soul Harvest is the Morph which incap should be balanced around not vice versa.
They are only the best when they hit.
Players now have "passive dodge chance", how many incaps do you expect me to perform before one finally hits?
Are you serious?
Maybe 15% of all players on cyro are running medium thus having access to major evasion.
15% of the skills you use against those 15% will be dodged.
2.25% of your overall used skills will be dodged by passive dodgeing.
And hitting incap on a target that has no shuffle is the easiest task in this game, simple AC and you can ignore random dodgeroll aswell because it lands so fast
Incap is in need for nerfs not buffs and Soul Harvest will be balanced by a nerf to incap.
Why on earth would you say incap needs nerfs when even stamblades often use dawn breaker b/c aoe
I thought this was a "buff soul harvest thread" not a "nerf incap thread"
Dude, if stamnbs use Dawnbreaker they are bad, period. Incap is the best single target ult by far in this game.
We don't Need to buff Soul harvest to make it as overperforming as Incap is right now.
People are far too used to get their easy kills with incap that they think every ult should be like that but no.
Soul Harvest is the Morph which incap should be balanced around not vice versa.
??????
Soul harvest is literally incap but without a stun? You make them as if they're in two different leagues with incap being this god tier ultimate that does 62784928 different things when in reality all it does compared to the ult that you say is "balanced" is have an extra stun.
Can't tell if troll or just bad
They are only the best when they hit.
Players now have "passive dodge chance", how many incaps do you expect me to perform before one finally hits?
Are you serious?
Maybe 15% of all players on cyro are running medium thus having access to major evasion.
15% of the skills you use against those 15% will be dodged.
2.25% of your overall used skills will be dodged by passive dodgeing.
And hitting incap on a target that has no shuffle is the easiest task in this game, simple AC and you can ignore random dodgeroll aswell because it lands so fast
Incap is in need for nerfs not buffs and Soul Harvest will be balanced by a nerf to incap.
Why on earth would you say incap needs nerfs when even stamblades often use dawn breaker b/c aoe
I thought this was a "buff soul harvest thread" not a "nerf incap thread"
Dude, if stamnbs use Dawnbreaker they are bad, period. Incap is the best single target ult by far in this game.
We don't Need to buff Soul harvest to make it as overperforming as Incap is right now.
People are far too used to get their easy kills with incap that they think every ult should be like that but no.
Soul Harvest is the Morph which incap should be balanced around not vice versa.
??????
Soul harvest is literally incap but without a stun? You make them as if they're in two different leagues with incap being this god tier ultimate that does 62784928 different things when in reality all it does compared to the ult that you say is "balanced" is have an extra stun.
Can't tell if troll or just bad
The stun makes it op.
You know as good as i do that no one uses Soul Harvest simply because it doesn't feature a CC.
The CC gives you another skill that will hit no matter how fast the enemy tries to CC break.
They are in different leagues. Play soul harvest on magblade for a week and then switch to Incap.
Incap increases the ease to hit burst way too much.
Everyone that is hit by Soul Harvest immediately blocks or dodges meaning the following will won't hit. With incap your will hits 49/50 times using it immediately after incap.
They are only the best when they hit.
Players now have "passive dodge chance", how many incaps do you expect me to perform before one finally hits?
Are you serious?
Maybe 15% of all players on cyro are running medium thus having access to major evasion.
15% of the skills you use against those 15% will be dodged.
2.25% of your overall used skills will be dodged by passive dodgeing.
And hitting incap on a target that has no shuffle is the easiest task in this game, simple AC and you can ignore random dodgeroll aswell because it lands so fast
Incap is in need for nerfs not buffs and Soul Harvest will be balanced by a nerf to incap.
Why on earth would you say incap needs nerfs when even stamblades often use dawn breaker b/c aoe
I thought this was a "buff soul harvest thread" not a "nerf incap thread"
Dude, if stamnbs use Dawnbreaker they are bad, period. Incap is the best single target ult by far in this game.
We don't Need to buff Soul harvest to make it as overperforming as Incap is right now.
People are far too used to get their easy kills with incap that they think every ult should be like that but no.
Soul Harvest is the Morph which incap should be balanced around not vice versa.
??????
Soul harvest is literally incap but without a stun? You make them as if they're in two different leagues with incap being this god tier ultimate that does 62784928 different things when in reality all it does compared to the ult that you say is "balanced" is have an extra stun.
Can't tell if troll or just bad
The stun makes it op.
You know as good as i do that no one uses Soul Harvest simply because it doesn't feature a CC.
The CC gives you another skill that will hit no matter how fast the enemy tries to CC break.
They are in different leagues. Play soul harvest on magblade for a week and then switch to Incap.
Incap increases the ease to hit burst way too much.
Everyone that is hit by Soul Harvest immediately blocks or dodges meaning the following will won't hit. With incap your will hits 49/50 times using it immediately after incap.
Here i am using harvest on my NB
You seem to bash on everything i do with my nightblade. So rude.
I agree however that incap is somewhat overperforming due to it´s stun component.