elantaura wrote: »

It depends.
No As long as I can bank the motif - as many have poured millions into crafting on one character we should be able to easily move it too that character - without accidentally learning due to say lag delay and button press. Honestly I'd prefer that every character got this retroactively and every character that passed 40 in future.
Everything else has a way of being acquired in game mounts,gems, crates we have got before for free,gold even storage.
so yes it should be if we are shut out from the possibility of earning/procuring in game.or have had at some point like crates
Otherwise it does not matter.

The levelling rewards don't contain a motif. It was a mistake in the original patch notes.

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lordrichter wrote: »

LOL

The “Storage Coffer, Fortified” collectible can now only be obtained from the Level Up Advisor at level 18.

Makes for an interesting spin on this discussion.

Yea, that was the only issue I had about it.

I don't mind buying the character slot to level a new guy, BUT I shouldn't be forced to do so to earn something like that. (or as their advice might be now, as it has been in past - delete an existing character and re-level one - which is horrible advice to give a customer)

Tandor wrote: »

I think the greed is primarily on the part of those players who don't like the idea of someone else getting something they haven't got.

None of the rewards are great, except the furniture storage box. These things will take eons to farm (to the point that it's much faster to just create a new character and get them to level 18, or whatever it was, for the reward than to grind writ vouchers/tel var).

Seri wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

You can get 20k gold in an hour or so by thieving - 8 toons, I assume at least one of them has the Blade of Woe. Even quicker if you do loops through a Vvardenfell town, launder and sell any motifs.

Could you message me and tell me more about this please?

I think the simple request is to unlock the rewards upon logging in at level X.

Kinda removes the point of it all tho....I think the idea is for folks to level once to be advised/informed consistently.

As much as well all think we know how to play this game, maybe they want to use that experience so we all see the same thing. Not to make us change, but to have one consistent message across every person who levels up. That will give a frame of reference, vs you should do X or Y.....now its the game suggested X or Y and when you experience it, you react differently vs I'm right and you're wrong.

makes sense actually...I like the approach

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I have 10 fully leveled characters, and I wasn't planning to buy another slot. So after update I can get 4 large and 3 small house storage coffers for in-game currency of choice, and can get 1 more coffer only for real money (by purchasing something I otherwise wouldn't) I hope they will at least offer a discount on character slots soon.

They are merely trying to con us into buying a character slot we do not need. I don't need more than 10 of them until a new class is introduced at the earliest.Luckily I have toons that I want to rename and race change,and am too cheap to buy their race and name change tokens.So I will reroll.I see no reason why it shouldn't count retroactively if someone has already leveled 14 toons. to 50.

to make another character I will need to pay money to get a spot as I am maxed out

This entire new DLC and update is one big mess.

I get that it's an RPG and alll, but some of you are so far out of the realm of reality, it's, well, unreal...

There is not a SINGLE gamebreaking reward in the bunch. You're not prevented from obtaining it (discrimination) nor forced to pay for it (extortion).

Please get a clue. Those cost nothing but time.

Slick_007 wrote: »

your post is a far worse insult to the player base with the garbage you just spouted. as much as it would be nice to be retroactive, i can just create another character, for free, or miss out on lvl 5 and below.

come on, follow through on your threat. let us know what law firm will take on your case.

The only players who would be insulted by my post are the ones that aren't insulted by ZOS's actions and that is intentional. If you truly value your time so little that you don't see how insulting this is then you need to find some self esteem. It's just another example of a business not caring about their customers and trampling all over them.

To be more precise I am not referring to the individual character rewards that are only there to help new players level up and learn the game. Max level players don't need those. I am referring to the account wide rewards and specifically to the storage coffer that is only available through this system and provides a permanent, unique and functional bonus.

You say, "level a new character" as if that's a valid solution. It is not. Most people have limited time in the day to devote to games. Even if they had an open character slot they would have to spend that time re-doing something that they've already done on a character that they probably don't care about, effectively wasting that effort in order to obtain something that they otherwise would have obtained the first time around. It's twice the effort for the same reward. And since time is money that is not "free" as you say.

And that doesn't even touch the problem with players who don't have an open character slot. Oh, there's a new character slot you can buy? So now it costs even more for such players.

I realize I am late to this discussion since I don't have the time to pay attention to the PTS and that these points have probably already been made but that doesn't make them any less valid. I am really surprised that ZOS stuck with the decision to not make this retroactive. It's just not a smart business decision.

As for a law suit I can't do that because I live in the USA and the ToS for ESO (as well as most video games) contains a waiver for such. However, such waivers are considered illegal in the EU so it's possible it could be brought up over there.