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INFINITE Warden Healing Ultimate? IS THAT RIGHT?

joaaocaampos
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After several weeks of PTS, and Zenimax releases an Ultimate like that?

I'm talking about Secluded Glove, not Enchanted Forest. Enchanted Forest is as OP as Secluded Glove.
  • ofSunhold
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    Yep. Powerful, super cheap, restores ultimate for the next powerful and super-cheap cast.

    PvPers who want all things templar nerfed into nonexistence are going to love wardens who spec into healing.
    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
  • Tiitus
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    still not stronger than BoL spam, requires group to be stacked, doesnt last long and its 20 ult per cast wen player is under % health not per person u heal..even with this yur lookin at 10-15 sec between burst heals... there has to be a skill that competes with BoL or temps will always be meta healer "enchanted forest" is close but BoL is still better. it look OP but its not when its in practice, i thought the same thing but i find the ability situational at best... as a none temp healing spings and healing ward are still my spam and oh sh!t buttons. its cheap but not enough for me to just blow it randomly on some person like i can with BoL.

    now in a coordinated group the skill will be strong but the same can be said for templar. in pve warden and temp will compliment each other pretty well, which is good.
    Edited by Tiitus on May 23, 2017 3:29AM
  • KingYogi415
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    20 ult per cast?

    WTF Zos...
  • joaaocaampos
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    Tiitus wrote: »
    still not stronger than BoL spam...

    Man, I'm talking about an ULTIMATE, not a ability! Spam for spam, the Warden still has Fungal Growth, which even requiring positioning, it is able to heal ALL ahead.

    Fungal Growth is Warden's BoL. Besides, he has this infinite Ultimate. No need to spend Magicka with such an Ultimate!
  • joaaocaampos
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    This is my suggestion of balancing:

    Secluded Glove
    • The minimum cost: 125 Ultimate
    Enchanted Forest (Morph)
    • Gain 10 Ultimate if healing an ally under 40% Health.

    Edited by joaaocaampos on May 23, 2017 4:15AM
  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    Tiitus wrote: »
    still not stronger than BoL spam, requires group to be stacked, doesnt last long and its 20 ult per cast wen player is under % health not per person u heal..even with this yur lookin at 10-15 sec between burst heals... there has to be a skill that competes with BoL or temps will always be meta healer "enchanted forest" is close but BoL is still better. it look OP but its not when its in practice, i thought the same thing but i find the ability situational at best... as a none temp healing spings and healing ward are still my spam and oh sh!t buttons. its cheap but not enough for me to just blow it randomly on some person like i can with BoL.

    now in a coordinated group the skill will be strong but the same can be said for templar. in pve warden and temp will compliment each other pretty well, which is good.
    @Tiitus
    Like others have said, it's a farking ultimate ffs not just some regular ability.
    20 ult points per cast is waay over the top.
    You don't have to defend ZoS you know. There's nothing really to justify about with how ZoS are handling all these things.

    And no, this Warden ultimate is not situational. It is widely used on frequent occasions in PvE and PvP.
    Edited by Sneaky-Snurr on May 23, 2017 9:03AM
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  • KochDerDamonen
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    I remember thinking it was screwy that Sorcerers had their stupid low-cost high-damage resource-restoring third-bar-giving ultimate

    I guess a lot of sorcerers are going to be salty that another class might have an ultimate as spammable :^)

    I know you don't 'spam' overload. If you were about to respond on that point... :)
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  • Alaf
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    Yes the ultimate heals a lot and has a very low cost
  • Emma_Overload
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    I haven't even leveled up a Warden yet, and you guys are already trying to nerf it? Go away, nerf-herders!
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  • ofSunhold
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    I haven't even leveled up a Warden yet, and you guys are already trying to nerf it? Go away, nerf-herders!

    Oh hell no, I don't want this nerfed. I'm looking forward to a reprieve from all the templar hate. (And because I've played one, I don't find PvP healers frustrating at all unless they've built for maximum troll powerz. It's a valid playstyle dammit.)

    Also, sincerely, I hope you have fun with your warden. :)
    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
  • Heka Cain
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  • AAbrigo
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    Looks fair enough with 20 ult.

    But seriously.. Rite of Passage only cost 123 ult?! Are you kidding me.. Templar OP af

    NERF TEMPLARS!
  • mandricus
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    20 ult cost is just ridicolous
  • jeevin
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    Warden sounds totally uber, I'm breaking out ma creditcard :#
  • ofSunhold
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    AAbrigo wrote: »
    Looks fair enough with 20 ult.

    But seriously.. Rite of Passage only cost 123 ult?! Are you kidding me.. Templar OP af

    NERF TEMPLARS!

    No matter where we start, that's where we always end. :D
    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    EDIT: Removed due to misinformation
    Edited by Sneaky-Snurr on May 23, 2017 9:03AM
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    Heka Cain wrote: »
    Welcome one and all to the Moaning Circle...round and round it goes, where it stops nobody knows!

    Tea and biscuits will be served in the intermission...or if you can not wait that long due to the potentiality that you may very well be late for your remedial classes, you can imbibe each others tears right here, right now at no extra cost!
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  • Masel
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    It costs 55 ultimate when healing an ally that is below 50% health. I'd actually only use it on a tank with master architect/war machine and dragon and bloodspawn. You get an amazing uptime on a warden tank with it.

    Can you stop whining? It's been one day ffs. Warden is not OP in any way, it's been played and tested a lot on the PTS and if it was op in PvE or PvP, people would've said so.
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  • Enslaved
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    Someone is QQing about healing ulti that is still less efficient compared to BoL...
  • Tiitus
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    Sigh.... to all the nerf warden ppl.. make one get the ultimate and fungal growth then tell me how spam happy u can be.. at lvl 22 on my Templar I was able to BoL spam my way through dark shade caverns ll poison robot boss, this was impossible at the same lvl on my warden.
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    Masel92 wrote: »
    It costs 55 ultimate when healing an ally that is below 50% health. I'd actually only use it on a tank with master architect/war machine and dragon and bloodspawn. You get an amazing uptime on a warden tank with it.

    Can you stop whining? It's been one day ffs. Warden is not OP in any way, it's been played and tested a lot on the PTS and if it was op in PvE or PvP, people would've said so.

    lol and ZOS would have ignored it like everything else :trollface:
    what kind of argument is this? ;)

    Not that I say it's OP, but your argument is bad. Never played on PTS before, right? ;)
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    After several weeks of PTS, and Zenimax releases an Ultimate like that?

    I'm talking about Secluded Glove, not Enchanted Forest. Enchanted Forest is as OP as Secluded Glove.

    So... here it starts... Warden OP AF please nerf.... xD ;)
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