how about no.

Heavy attacks online; why be talented and skillful when you can hold a trigger?

So many sustain nerfs that this heavy attack resource thing evens it out. You can still block a heavy attack. Only thing left to change is Dark Deal, once interrupt charges resources "the sustain game" may become a thing again.


Fixed.

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

So many sustain nerfs that this heavy attack resource thing evens it out. You can still bash/interrupt a heavy attack. Only thing left to change is Dark Deal, once interrupt charges resources "the sustain game" may become a thing again.

No you cant lol

that's the way it was going to be anyway. whatever.

Why would anyone complain about this? Sustain has been nerfed so badly, the devs decided to throw us a bone with heavy attacks... and now you want to throw back the bone?

"No Magicka Cost Reduction in CP Tree."

"Losing Stamina x2 times while block against continous attacks in 1 sec."

"Vigor becomes a hungry monster"

Nasty thing is that not all classes are good with HA.
Obviously, stamDK could easily include it into their burst damage - they already do it with Leap and 2Hand.
Snb users always make HA.
But magplars don't. We bound with channels. We can't put HA in our rotation to restore resource and deal huge damage at the same time.

Voryn_Dagoth wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Why would anyone complain about this? Sustain has been nerfed so badly, the devs decided to throw us a bone with heavy attacks... and now you want to throw back the bone?

Right! Apart from that, you still need to be able fully-charge your heavy-attack, which usually leaves enough time to counter, and than also actually hit the target. The latter is not much of a problem with a Lightning Staff, but with all the stamina builds dodging around, it is an issue with an Inferno Staff. So it is nice that Inferno and Frost Staff got a speed buff.

Also, there is no Tenacity in Non-CP campaigns.

Actually, Lit and Resto can be countered very easily as well. I fought a Magblade the other day who refused to let me do a full Resto heavy attack when I was running low. How? He simply cast Cloak right before I could finish each attack. It was so annoying!

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Why would anyone complain about this? Sustain has been nerfed so badly, the devs decided to throw us a bone with heavy attacks... and now you want to throw back the bone?

So why nerf sustain in the first place?

All they did was give back some of the sustain they JUST took away...If they wanted to give some sustain back, they should have adjusted the values they removed in the first patch. Instead of dicking around ANOTHER aspect of the game that didn't need any adjustments.

Brrrofski wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Why would anyone complain about this? Sustain has been nerfed so badly, the devs decided to throw us a bone with heavy attacks... and now you want to throw back the bone?

Because we wanted a shift from the heavy armor meta in PvP. This doesn't help that.

I'm sorry, this game doesn't revolve around PvP when the overwhelming majority of players are PvE!!! PvE gets screwed enough as it is because of you PvP players, enough is enough!!

ADarklore wrote: »

Keron wrote: »

Only Bow and Staff heavy attacks cast time was reduced. Not all. So lightning heavies and resto heavies will be very strong resource regen wise, all others are too easy to evade in PvP scenarios.

As said above, tenacity is 15% not 25%. Due to cost reduction nerf, you will end up using more resources but regaining more.

Stop making end of world posts without having seen it in action. And don't tell me a couple days testing on PTS constitutes "seeing in action". That's carp, since no one is yet used to the meta.

I hate these forums. Too many <word not allowed in forums>.

In fact, Lightning and Reso never received the cast time reduction, so their cast time is still slightly higher but they also receive more resources and do more damage.

I beg to differ that a resto staff does more dmg than an inferno staff. Also, don't forget the risk/reward burst potential of flame staffs + 8% single target dmg.
Also, does a lightning staff really gives more resources back than a flame/ ice staff?

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Why would anyone complain about this? Sustain has been nerfed so badly, the devs decided to throw us a bone with heavy attacks... and now you want to throw back the bone?

because the idea of all the nerfs was to bring resource magnament back into the game. If if can restore 7k with a single resto staff attack, then all the nerfs were pointless, better to revert all the changes and leave all as it is. Also it will put again heavy armor in top of the food chain in PvP. The idea of the changes in morrowind is that you have to invest in sustain, and manage your resources. Stacking all damage with heavy armor and doing 1 HA attack to restore a huge chunk of your resources pool is more idiotic that having infinite sustain with CP as we do in live.