[VIDEO] Homestead - Welcome to the Maze

covenant_merchant · February 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM&feature=youtu.be

So here's what I've done with the Ebonheart Chateau, presented as a collection of random stuff and movie allusions. Hopefully you'll like it, and if you're on PC EU, feel free to swing by !

Rohamad_Ali · February 2017

Really great work and the movie reference was hilarious !

covenant_merchant · February 2017

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Really great work and the movie reference was hilarious !

Thanks

Took me at least 9-10 hours, the planing on PTS notwithstanding, and over 6 million gold, but I feel it was worth it

LeglessUK · February 2017

Really nice video, it's great to see what idea's people are coming up with to decorate their homes

Cryptical · February 2017

Sweet.

Now you can add a couple planks for people to walk up to the second level... make it multi-level maze.

That's my plan, to begin after it hits console. A labyrinth reaching to the sky.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · February 2017

Well done! That is the most creative and well thought out creation I have seen so far.

covenant_merchant · February 2017

Cryptical wrote: »

Sweet.

Now you can add a couple planks for people to walk up to the second level... make it multi-level maze.

That's my plan, to begin after it hits console. A labyrinth reaching to the sky.

That was my intention, much like the Star Trek chess board. Alas I reached the item cap limit. I have 666 hedges atm, and 34 statues and other miscellaneous crap, so sadly it'll have to wait until ZOS decides to be reasonable and level the cap. I mean come on, one book takes the same amount of space as a giant Molag Bal statue...

LeglessUK wrote: »

Really nice video, it's great to see what idea's people are coming up with to decorate their homes

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Well done! That is the most creative and well thought out creation I have seen so far.

Thanks, much appreciated

Cryptical · February 2017

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

Sweet.

Now you can add a couple planks for people to walk up to the second level... make it multi-level maze.

That's my plan, to begin after it hits console. A labyrinth reaching to the sky.

That was my intention, much like the Star Trek chess board. Alas I reached the item cap limit. I have 666 hedges atm, and 34 statues and other miscellaneous crap, so sadly it'll have to wait until ZOS decides to be reasonable and level the cap. I mean come on, one book takes the same amount of space as a giant Molag Bal statue...

LeglessUK wrote: »

Really nice video, it's great to see what idea's people are coming up with to decorate their homes

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Well done! That is the most creative and well thought out creation I have seen so far.

Thanks, much appreciated

It's not a volume of space taken up thing, it's a amount of disk space per house thing.

Remember, they are digital items so physical volume means nothing. But just like the crafting bag, the 1s and 0s of the information does take up physical disk space.

Each item has an item number of N digits long. Add on a X/Y/Z coordinate location of that item in the virtual space of a house. Plus another couple numbers R1 and R2, for if you rotated it from default. Did you customize it somehow, like attuned crafting stations etc? Gotta have disk space dedicated to hold that information.

So take all that information, add it up. Depending on how finely the coordinates and rotation is measured, try moving something 1 pixel. How many pixels large is the zone instance of the largest home, because they have to be prepared for that. How tiny are the spins? With the longest item you can find, try to find the smallest amount you can rotate it - is that a single degree or less? So there's another 4 or 5 digits for each of R1 and R2.

Plus the item details I haven't thought of. Tack on extra space for future use that you haven't thought of yet.

Now multiply that amount of info by how many items per house. Multiply by number of houses. Starts to pile up, eh? Multiply again by number of players.

Plain truth, limits have to be set.

Radinyn · February 2017

covenant_merchant wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM&feature=youtu.be

So here's what I've done with the Ebonheart Chateau, presented as a collection of random stuff and movie allusions. Hopefully you'll like it, and if you're on PC EU, feel free to swing by !

add me please, @Radinyn

covenant_merchant · February 2017

Cryptical wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

Sweet.

Now you can add a couple planks for people to walk up to the second level... make it multi-level maze.

That's my plan, to begin after it hits console. A labyrinth reaching to the sky.

That was my intention, much like the Star Trek chess board. Alas I reached the item cap limit. I have 666 hedges atm, and 34 statues and other miscellaneous crap, so sadly it'll have to wait until ZOS decides to be reasonable and level the cap. I mean come on, one book takes the same amount of space as a giant Molag Bal statue...

LeglessUK wrote: »

Really nice video, it's great to see what idea's people are coming up with to decorate their homes

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Well done! That is the most creative and well thought out creation I have seen so far.

Thanks, much appreciated

It's not a volume of space taken up thing, it's a amount of disk space per house thing.

Remember, they are digital items so physical volume means nothing. But just like the crafting bag, the 1s and 0s of the information does take up physical disk space.

Each item has an item number of N digits long. Add on a X/Y/Z coordinate location of that item in the virtual space of a house. Plus another couple numbers R1 and R2, for if you rotated it from default. Did you customize it somehow, like attuned crafting stations etc? Gotta have disk space dedicated to hold that information.

So take all that information, add it up. Depending on how finely the coordinates and rotation is measured, try moving something 1 pixel. How many pixels large is the zone instance of the largest home, because they have to be prepared for that. How tiny are the spins? With the longest item you can find, try to find the smallest amount you can rotate it - is that a single degree or less? So there's another 4 or 5 digits for each of R1 and R2.

Plus the item details I haven't thought of. Tack on extra space for future use that you haven't thought of yet.

Now multiply that amount of info by how many items per house. Multiply by number of houses. Starts to pile up, eh? Multiply again by number of players.

Plain truth, limits have to be set.

True, but said limits don't match the amount of space we have available to us. Big mansions like the Hunding's Palatial Hall, the DC and EP manors (AD one less so since you have little space inside and the outside can be given the cluttered look with trees) feel big and empty with only 700 spaces available with ESO +.

covenant_merchant · February 2017

Radinyn wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpB_o_WDydM&feature=youtu.be

So here's what I've done with the Ebonheart Chateau, presented as a collection of random stuff and movie allusions. Hopefully you'll like it, and if you're on PC EU, feel free to swing by !

add me please, @Radinyn

I've added you !

InvitationNotFound · February 2017

Ahhhh, that's where the money of the akavari styles (gained by exploiting (aka role playing) bb mine) you've sold has been spent for?

zaria · February 2017

Cryptical wrote: »

covenant_merchant wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

Sweet.

Now you can add a couple planks for people to walk up to the second level... make it multi-level maze.

That's my plan, to begin after it hits console. A labyrinth reaching to the sky.

That was my intention, much like the Star Trek chess board. Alas I reached the item cap limit. I have 666 hedges atm, and 34 statues and other miscellaneous crap, so sadly it'll have to wait until ZOS decides to be reasonable and level the cap. I mean come on, one book takes the same amount of space as a giant Molag Bal statue...

LeglessUK wrote: »

Really nice video, it's great to see what idea's people are coming up with to decorate their homes

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Well done! That is the most creative and well thought out creation I have seen so far.

Thanks, much appreciated

It's not a volume of space taken up thing, it's a amount of disk space per house thing.

Remember, they are digital items so physical volume means nothing. But just like the crafting bag, the 1s and 0s of the information does take up physical disk space.

Each item has an item number of N digits long. Add on a X/Y/Z coordinate location of that item in the virtual space of a house. Plus another couple numbers R1 and R2, for if you rotated it from default. Did you customize it somehow, like attuned crafting stations etc? Gotta have disk space dedicated to hold that information.

So take all that information, add it up. Depending on how finely the coordinates and rotation is measured, try moving something 1 pixel. How many pixels large is the zone instance of the largest home, because they have to be prepared for that. How tiny are the spins? With the longest item you can find, try to find the smallest amount you can rotate it - is that a single degree or less? So there's another 4 or 5 digits for each of R1 and R2.

Plus the item details I haven't thought of. Tack on extra space for future use that you haven't thought of yet.

Now multiply that amount of info by how many items per house. Multiply by number of houses. Starts to pile up, eh? Multiply again by number of players.

Plain truth, limits have to be set.

It has to be an limit,
You need 6 numbers for item placement, lets use int32, or two bytes, lets use 64 bit for id and player id, int32 for house id, int 32 for item type 16 bytes, now add some extra for options and perhaps future coloring who take us to 20.
An mansion with eso+ give 700 objects so 14KB.

14KB*8.5 million players = 120 GB, anybody have an old hard drive to donate

Yes things is a bit more complex, its in an database with indexes and gaps in it but its still a few TB.

As houses is instanced they are not loaded then empty, they are loaded on an server with spare capacity just as group dungeons are created on entering however changes is saved on exit.

Now inventory and bank has to be in server memory all the time as you use it often, houses including house storage containers does not

ericprydz82ub17_ESO · February 2017

This was exactly what I had planned to do once it hit console. Great job!

covenant_merchant · February 2017

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

Ahhhh, that's where the money of the akavari styles (gained by exploiting (aka role playing) bb mine) you've sold has been spent for?

Actually that gold goes to restoring me to my former multimillionaire status, and subsequent glory and greatness. And exploiting? Lets not throw such dirty words around. I was merely enjoying some immersive roleplaying with friends at a strategic resource that may or may not have yielded a significant material reward (though alliance points aren't really a great example of materialism).
So sit back, relax, and enjoy that awesome maze built with sweat, toil, tears, and blood money. You're welcome to stop by!

MasterPerceval · February 2017

Woah I want to see that with my own eyes! Awesome.

If you can add me, @MasterPerceval, I'd be eager to check it out!

Oreyn_Bearclaw · February 2017

Pretty cool.

covenant_merchant · February 2017

MasterPerceval wrote: »

Woah I want to see that with my own eyes! Awesome.

If you can add me, @MasterPerceval, I'd be eager to check it out!

Sure thing, will add you.

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Pretty cool.

Thanks