VelociousLegend wrote: »Two things that should be changed before master crafting writs go live:@ZOS_GinaBruno
- Remove any legendary improvement requirements from master writs
- Change motif collection to be account-wide opposed to per character basis
Sweetpea704 wrote: »VelociousLegend wrote: »Two things that should be changed before master crafting writs go live:@ZOS_GinaBruno
- Remove any legendary improvement requirements from master writs
- Change motif collection to be account-wide opposed to per character basis
Yes to the account-wide for research and motifs. I've literally played my crafter for 50 days of in game time and 20 months real time! I checked with /played. I just now finished 9 trait crafter and I still don't have all the motifs. Draugr just might kill me, the drop rate is so low. It is too much to have to get motifs and research on all your toons, like there are not enough hours in the day. AND that is basically what you have to do to decorate the houses in any meaningful way. Please don't make this soul sucking...
VelociousLegend wrote: »Sweetpea704 wrote: »VelociousLegend wrote: »Two things that should be changed before master crafting writs go live:@ZOS_GinaBruno
- Remove any legendary improvement requirements from master writs
- Change motif collection to be account-wide opposed to per character basis
Yes to the account-wide for research and motifs. I've literally played my crafter for 50 days of in game time and 20 months real time! I checked with /played. I just now finished 9 trait crafter and I still don't have all the motifs. Draugr just might kill me, the drop rate is so low. It is too much to have to get motifs and research on all your toons, like there are not enough hours in the day. AND that is basically what you have to do to decorate the houses in any meaningful way. Please don't make this soul sucking...
I am fine with per character based trait research. It shows a time investment into the craft. Motifs however are not only a time sink, but also a large gold (or crowns) sink and should be account-wide.
Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.
No its not an issue at all. DLCs are part of the game. The fact that u refuse to buy the DLCs and the motifs is ur problem. This "i couldnt care less about ur DLCs so change it" mentality is dumb. Either buy the DLCs and motifs or sell the writ.Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.
I'll add to this that requiring us to craft a set located in a DLC is also an issue. I'm not an ESO+ member any more since you can't seem to get it to work properly on XB. I've purchased all DLC I'll play. I'm not a PVPer or endgame PVEer, so I couldn't care less about IC or the Hist Pack and will not purchase them just to complete a master writ. I do, however, have Xivkyn and Akaviri, as you can purchase motif pages from guild traders without owning the DLC. But, you can't get to the crafting station without it.
No its not an issue at all. DLCs are part of the game. The fact that u refuse to buy the DLCs and the motifs is ur problem. This "i couldnt care less about ur DLCs so change it" mentality is dumb. Either buy the DLCs and motifs or sell the writ.Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.
I'll add to this that requiring us to craft a set located in a DLC is also an issue. I'm not an ESO+ member any more since you can't seem to get it to work properly on XB. I've purchased all DLC I'll play. I'm not a PVPer or endgame PVEer, so I couldn't care less about IC or the Hist Pack and will not purchase them just to complete a master writ. I do, however, have Xivkyn and Akaviri, as you can purchase motif pages from guild traders without owning the DLC. But, you can't get to the crafting station without it.
Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.
Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.
I'll add to this that requiring us to craft a set located in a DLC is also an issue. I'm not an ESO+ member any more since you can't seem to get it to work properly on XB. I've purchased all DLC I'll play. I'm not a PVPer or endgame PVEer, so I couldn't care less about IC or the Hist Pack and will not purchase them just to complete a master writ. I do, however, have Xivkyn and Akaviri, as you can purchase motif pages from guild traders without owning the DLC. But, you can't get to the crafting station without it.
THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Since I became an "all 9s" crafter on my main on Christmas Day, I say bring it on. I already got all the gear I need. I do think I'll be buying every Tempering Alloy under 20k on XBox today though.
Stopnaggin wrote: »Tonnopesce wrote: »kkordasb14_ESO wrote: »Stopnaggin wrote: »Doesn't soul shriven drop from what used to be Cadwells silver? The only thing I see as a rip is the legendary upgrade mats. I wasn't forced to spend any money on motifs that are being used in these writs, although I do have both cs exclusive ones. So saying you "have" to buy them is incorrect. You can choose to buy them, purchase with gold or even farm them. I check kiosks all the time and find missing ones pretty cheap, bought 2 different drauher motifs for 5k ea yesterday. So they are available and cheap enough.
But seriously is the soul shrivel not available through Cadwell anymore?
I don't know I completed Cadwell's silver many moons ago...circa end of 2014 early 2015. I certainly never got any motifs for any of the Silver or Gold content. Just some measely gold and an achievement in the list a pat on the back and a buh bye.
On PTS I didn't have it and the guild stores aren't up so I bought it. On live...when I have maybe 150K gold to my name and have to supply legendary mats for a master writ...spend more for an entire set of a motif that makes me want to gag just looking at it? No. :P I'd rather spend gold on getting the rest of all my CP160 characters into gold gear...and that's a lot more gold than I have, doing just one wipes me out and then I"m off farming again for trade items, more mats and quest gold to get another one done. The good gear, dungeon gear, which I have tons of, is no longer tradeable...I've got a few million gold worth of those sets in my inventories but meh...I just conclude that they SAY that you can get all this stuff without crowns, while technically true, the cost to do this in game is so high that spending 400 crowns on an item will be so much EASIER than crafting several master writs. And that's the plan I'm sure!
Soul shriven motif is indeed avaible via the cadwell silver and if you don't have il you canot buy it from the stores since is a bop item
But apperantly not retroactive. Which kinda sucks because 6 of the 8 toons I have were done before that change.
autumnsongbird wrote: »No its not an issue at all. DLCs are part of the game. The fact that u refuse to buy the DLCs and the motifs is ur problem. This "i couldnt care less about ur DLCs so change it" mentality is dumb. Either buy the DLCs and motifs or sell the writ.Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.
I'll add to this that requiring us to craft a set located in a DLC is also an issue. I'm not an ESO+ member any more since you can't seem to get it to work properly on XB. I've purchased all DLC I'll play. I'm not a PVPer or endgame PVEer, so I couldn't care less about IC or the Hist Pack and will not purchase them just to complete a master writ. I do, however, have Xivkyn and Akaviri, as you can purchase motif pages from guild traders without owning the DLC. But, you can't get to the crafting station without it.
No. It is not their problem. It is yet another way to force people to buy what they do not want just so they can participate. And it will be just one more person in an ever growing line they alienate. Think I'm wrong? They redid all the pledges so that DLC dungeons have their own quest giver. People were so pissed and tired of them being part of the rotations of dungeons they didn't want and subs they didnt' want to be part of that it had to be done. They'll have to fix it or they will alienate players. Get it through you thick skull that people can well refuse to buy whatever they want and then THEY ABSOLUTELY CAN BALK at someone that is basically passed off as 'everyone can participate' but then makes it so if you do not have DLC or Plus you really can't participate. Outside of this little microcosm of gaming, if a company did that they would likely be sued. Technically, I don't think they promised no DLC would be involved but if they did they would be breaking their word to their customers. They get away with lots of questionable tactics in the gaming world mostly because the vast majority of their customers are kids who don't know jack about business and are addicted to games - young, naive addicts essentially. Pull have this crap anywhere else in the business world and this business would fold within a year.
Time to ignore you. Your rudeness never seems to stop. Ugh.
So many people are insulting master crafters by demanding everything without a lot of work.
This is designed to reward those who've invested a ridiculous amount of time and gold into learning every motif, researching every trait and gathering as many materials as they've felt necessary. When they need to spend 200k on a Master writ which rewards them enough vouchers to buy a training skeleton or Ambrosia recipe then they reap the benefits by selling to those who haven't invested such a large amount.
Sure you might get lucky having only started paying attention to this *** since PTS dropped, but it doesn't mean you should be entitled to the same opportunities as those who've invested a *** more.
Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.
Yes, poison writs don't work at all. Some potion writs are impossible.Having trouble with a Ravage Magicka Poison Master Crafting Writ. Had this trouble before -- I have the right formula but it wouldn't give me credit for having completed. After logging off and in again, it started working.
Got the stupid thing again, only this time it won't work at all.
Damage Magicka with:
- lingering health
- restore health
- ravage magicka
Blue Entoloma/Butterfly Wing/Scrib Jelly
(Alkahist, of course)
Of course I tried all sorts of other concoctions, but that's the recipe that worked before.
Anyone else having issues with this?
No its not an issue at all. DLCs are part of the game. The fact that u refuse to buy the DLCs and the motifs is ur problem. This "i couldnt care less about ur DLCs so change it" mentality is dumb. Either buy the DLCs and motifs or sell the writ.Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.
I'll add to this that requiring us to craft a set located in a DLC is also an issue. I'm not an ESO+ member any more since you can't seem to get it to work properly on XB. I've purchased all DLC I'll play. I'm not a PVPer or endgame PVEer, so I couldn't care less about IC or the Hist Pack and will not purchase them just to complete a master writ. I do, however, have Xivkyn and Akaviri, as you can purchase motif pages from guild traders without owning the DLC. But, you can't get to the crafting station without it.
Carbonised wrote: »Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.Woolenthreads wrote: »The motif part of Master Crafting is going to be an issue for many people. I've gotten MW's which request the motif be one from a DLC, which I see as an issue for people who don't own the DLC or "ESO plus membership".
It also does not acknowledge items crafted by an alternative character and I have characters whose concept has never involved the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood so I object to receiving a request for "Order of the Hour" style on a character which was never going to do the DB DLC.
I'll add to this that requiring us to craft a set located in a DLC is also an issue. I'm not an ESO+ member any more since you can't seem to get it to work properly on XB. I've purchased all DLC I'll play. I'm not a PVPer or endgame PVEer, so I couldn't care less about IC or the Hist Pack and will not purchase them just to complete a master writ. I do, however, have Xivkyn and Akaviri, as you can purchase motif pages from guild traders without owning the DLC. But, you can't get to the crafting station without it.
While there are many things to question regarding the master writ implementation (pretty much everyone has mentioned the absurdly large cost of legendary gold mats), this really is not one of them.
DLCs are part of the game, and actual content. If you don't have Orsinium, you can't get the vMA weapons. Similarly with other DLC content. If you do not eso+, or do not buy the DLCs (which are actually quite reasonably priced considering how much content you get out of them), you miss out on functionality in the game, that's just how it is, and that is your choice.
Even without DLCs, you still have a hundred opportunities to participate in master writs. Many of them are base game sets, you can also trade and buy master writs, meaning you can sell off any of the DLC ones your characters pick up (and I imagine these will sell for quite a large amount of gold considering how many vouchers they give), and you can buy any for the base game sets that other people sell as well.
Basically, the game is offering you to participate in the writs you can make yourself, sell off those you can't make for lots of gold, and buy some you can make if you want more.
And yet you come here crying your guts out about unfairness? This seems rather spoiled to me, like saying you should get vMA weapons from DSA since you don't want to buy the DLC.
Your post is also somewhat ignorant, the Order of the Hour style has nothing to do with the DB questline. Anyone can craft OOtH style as long as they have the mats (which drop from the Gold Coast zone or can be bought in every store), and the motifs (which drop from world boss dailies in Gold Coast, and are also sold in every store), meaning even if you don't even own the DLC, you can buy whatever you need in guild stores and still make it.
This is a petty complaint, let it go.
Yes, poison writs don't work at all. Some potion writs are impossible.Having trouble with a Ravage Magicka Poison Master Crafting Writ. Had this trouble before -- I have the right formula but it wouldn't give me credit for having completed. After logging off and in again, it started working.
Got the stupid thing again, only this time it won't work at all.
Damage Magicka with:
- lingering health
- restore health
- ravage magicka
Blue Entoloma/Butterfly Wing/Scrib Jelly
(Alkahist, of course)
Of course I tried all sorts of other concoctions, but that's the recipe that worked before.
Anyone else having issues with this?
Yes, poison writs don't work at all. Some potion writs are impossible.Having trouble with a Ravage Magicka Poison Master Crafting Writ. Had this trouble before -- I have the right formula but it wouldn't give me credit for having completed. After logging off and in again, it started working.
Got the stupid thing again, only this time it won't work at all.
Damage Magicka with:
- lingering health
- restore health
- ravage magicka
Blue Entoloma/Butterfly Wing/Scrib Jelly
(Alkahist, of course)
Of course I tried all sorts of other concoctions, but that's the recipe that worked before.
Anyone else having issues with this?
Yes i am and i know the system completely. Did you try them this week? I did last week and 2.7.0 known issues mentioned poison writs don't advance. I tried three times and all failed to advance from correct poison. It might be that 2.7.1 fixed something.Sweetpea704 wrote: »OkayYes, poison writs don't work at all. Some potion writs are impossible.Having trouble with a Ravage Magicka Poison Master Crafting Writ. Had this trouble before -- I have the right formula but it wouldn't give me credit for having completed. After logging off and in again, it started working.
Got the stupid thing again, only this time it won't work at all.
Damage Magicka with:
- lingering health
- restore health
- ravage magicka
Blue Entoloma/Butterfly Wing/Scrib Jelly
(Alkahist, of course)
Of course I tried all sorts of other concoctions, but that's the recipe that worked before.
Anyone else having issues with this?
Are you a toxicologist? I was able to complete a poison writ no problem.