So, not even little storage space increase for even 1mil house?

The PTS Windows client seems to run fine on my Mac Pro when within Windows 10 via Bootcamp. When I try to run the Mac client, it takes longer than usual to get to the character-selection screen than retail and the game hangs indefinitely—logo stops spinning and the client just sits there until I kill it—when I try to log into any character. I threw away the PTS folder this morning and reinstalled the PTS client from scratch and this still occurs. Retail still runs just fine.

I am running Mac OS X 10.12.1 on a Mac Pro (Late 2013) with 3 GHz 8-core Intel Xeon E5, 16 GB 1866 MHz DDR3, 1TB PCIe SSD drive, twin AMD FirePro D700 GPUs with 6144MB each.

smacx250 wrote: »

@nathan_bri - more on that here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/312158/pts-character-load-issues-possibly-mac-related

Ah! Thanks for that!

How did a Heavy Armor nerf miss the patch notes PvP doesn't need more Heavy Armor Cancer next patch.

I must say, I'm also super disappointed. It's like of 95% of your community's suggestions, you've completely ignored them. The only poisitive change I can see is the Radiant nerf. The rest are either ineffectual, or just completely unwarranted.

Why the change to curse? Are you kidding me? It is probably the sorc's most relied on DPS skill, and you've effectively made it irrelevant in regards to the play style. Now no Magicka classes at all can burst.

Taking away the stun on Shards from Magplar, also, is uncalled for, and was not something needed/asked for, or even discussed.

A "buff" to Mag DK, after countless threads and discussions, many of which I've started and been involved in, results in... a 5% flat damage buff to whip (not major breach, burning, execute or anything of actual use) and a new useless morph of Dragon's blood. The change to chains is positive, but without a range buff, they still won't get slotted.

I've spent over $3000 on this game, but I think this is it for me, if this patch goes ahead. I've given your balancing team the benefit of the doubt, but at this point, I can come up with no rational conclusion other than to say they either don't care what we say, or they're just flat-out inept.

Dungeon Ready Check. YES. OH MY, PRAISE ALL OF THE GODS. I can't tell you how many times, due to long queue times, I've gone AFK.

Actually_Goku wrote: »

I must say, I'm also super disappointed. It's like of 95% of your community's suggestions, you've completely ignored them. The only poisitive change I can see is the Radiant nerf. The rest are either ineffectual, or just completely unwarranted.

Why the change to curse? Are you kidding me? It is probably the sorc's most relied on DPS skill, and you've effectively made it irrelevant in regards to the play style. Now no Magicka classes at all can burst.

Taking away the stun on Shards from Magplar, also, is uncalled for, and was not something needed/asked for, or even discussed.

A "buff" to Mag DK, after countless threads and discussions, many of which I've started and been involved in, results in... a 5% flat damage buff to whip (not major breach, burning, execute or anything of actual use) and a new useless morph of Dragon's blood. The change to chains is positive, but without a range buff, they still won't get slotted.

I've spent over $3000 on this game, but I think this is it for me, if this patch goes ahead. I've given your balancing team the benefit of the doubt, but at this point, I can come up with no rational conclusion other than to say they either don't care what we say, or they're just flat-out inept.

bro you got fire leap

how do people keep missing this?

sirtadzio wrote: »

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

Next patch you are going to see insane trial times. And yes, single target dps on magsorc,magblade. And magdk did go up.

Where does the magBlade dps increase come from? Did I misread something? I thought they just increased the cost on their wet noodle spammable dps skills

aoe cap and destro passive changes

Thanks for attending to so much that is wrong in pvp like broken proc sets which require 0 skill because the gear does everything for you, Overtanking/Overhealing builds that still manage to do a lot of damage, Shield stacking so much that half the time it takes 4+ to even get someone provided they don't TP away b/c your increased magicka cost for consecutive teleports is a joke. Thanks for attending to the fact that siege is nearly useless due to the overhealing. But oh wait we get more ap per quest turn in.

Yay housing . . .

If biggest are 24 than u got to thing something like:
2 room
5 apt
10 small
15 med
20 large
24 manor

@ZOS_GinaBruno

If a player "places" a Personal Assistant in a home, then can that P.A. still be summoned by a character to the character's current location, i.e., while the character is not at the home where the P.A. is "placed"?

Shadowshire wrote: »

Quote: ".... Homestead features 39 homes spread throughout many zones in the base game. ...."

Since you subsequently list 36 homes which will be available for purchase (which includes apartments), and refer to "36 homes" in subsequent statements, is the number "39" incorrect? Or does that number include the "inn rooms" with which characters are rewarded upon completion of the initiating quest?

Yes, it includes the 3 inn rooms. 36 purchasable houses and 3 inn rooms from the quest (only one can be gained by each character from the quest, so for the other two, you either need to complete the quest on a character in another alliance, or pay gold).

In further explanation, you evidently use the word "apartment" when perhaps you mean "inn-room" and/or vice-versa. It appears to me that the initiating Quest grants the player character a room at an inn, not an apartment. After at least one character is awarded a room at an inn, the player can obtain an apartment, small house, medium house, large house, or manor.

Agreed that it's inconsistent. There's not really much practical difference between an apartment and an inn room though.

Also, there is no mention of any "private island" about which representations were made in the initial promotion of the Homestead feature.

The private island is Crown Store exclusive, and is available on the PTS for testing.

Are there more Homesteads which will eventually be added to the game but are not in the initial release? Maybe ZO could offer a mansion on a private island, another as a ship anchored or docked, and a third as a cavern like The Harborage.

That is quite likely. 6 houses on Vvardenfell and an additional 3 Crown Store exclusives have been datamined so far.

@ZOS_GinaBruno FAIR WARNING: LONG!!

Find homes scattered across Tamriel, make sure you have the prerequisites, and purchase them for in-game gold.
First, you must find the home in-game, click on the door, and follow the purchasing instructions.
Most homes require you to complete certain prerequisites before you can purchase them for gold. For example, to purchase the Daggerfall Covenant Manor, you must have previously completed the Hero of the Daggerfall Covenant achievement.
You must own the Imperial Edition version of ESO in order to purchase any Imperial homes.
Homes can be purchased for crowns at any time, bypassing the above requirements.

Frankly, the Homestead feature and the implementation for Furnishings have all of the hallmarks of some good ideas in concept which became corrupted while integrating them into ESO.

(1) There should never be any "prerequisite" for buying any Homestead. It inherently discriminates between players who have the time to make the effort to satisfy the prerequisite(s), and players who do not have enough playing time for a fair opportunity to make it worthwhile, whether feasible. Even requiring a player to have at hand or to accumulate enough Gold Pieces to purchase a Homestead after acquiring an "inn-room(s)" can readily become discriminatory in that respect.

The only reason for prerequisites is to give a player "incentive" to PAY DOLLARS to buy Crowns and use them to "purchase" a Homestead. Spending a lot of time and effort to accumulate enough Gold Pieces -- instead of playing the game with other goals which might be more to the player's satisfaction -- is just not enough of an "incentive" to BUY CROWNS instead, is it?

(2) There are so many ways that ESO trade qua merchandising is frustrated and flawed that the Gold Piece homestead prices quoted in these PTS notes are, frankly, appalling and insulting.

It should be evident to everyone by now that the byzantine ESO Guild Store + Guild Trader system does not encourage or support "merchants" and "crafters". Indeed, evidently it was deliberately designed to frustrate any player whose primary satisfaction might well be simply acquiring as many Gold Pieces as possible as quickly as possible, albeit they are indeed fantasy wealth.

Two of my characters have mastered all six crafts. But there are only a few items which are feasible to craft in order to offer them for sale. That seems to the reason Crafting Writs were introduced, i.e., as a sop for the players who like to craft items with their characters.

The "Master Writ" feature, as described, is simply not acceptable for introducing furniture crafting into the game. It is an afterthought, a false alternative for furnishing a Homestead rather than buying a furnished Homestead from the Crown Store. Certainly, some players may welcome it and might even enjoy doing it. Nonetheless, the amount of time and effort required to furnish a Homestead by crafting furniture and/or buying furnishings with Gold Pieces becomes a disincentive when compared to SPENDING CROWNS instead.

Personally, after playing ESO for more than two years, I have accumulated more than enough GP to buy a Manor, whether I want one. But it is easy to realize that the majority of players quite likely have not done what I have done. Many, if not most, probably do not want to do so. Indeed, the Gold Piece prices quoted in these PTS notes make it abundantly clear that it will not be feasible for many players to acquire a Homestead anytime soon without BUYING CROWNS to purchase it.

(3) Finding and buying a Homestead is just the beginning. Furnishing it promises to be an arduous, time-consuming, complex process -- one which rather likely has, and will have, so many bugs that it will probably be quite a while before it actually works most of the time.

Which is to say, those who designed the process of furnishing a Homestead evidently forgot the KISS principle of software design (Keep It Simple, Stupid!), whether they ever learned it. And that fact also becomes an incentive for a player to simply BUY CROWNS to purchase a Homestead which is already fully furnished, although it might not have many, if any, of the features that the player might prefer.

IN CONCLUSION, rather clearly, Zenimax Online wants a major revenue boost from introducing the Homestead feature. Whether it might incidentally increase the enjoyment of many who play the game, it does not appear to me to have been designed and implemented with that in mind. On its face, so much of it serves as an incentive to just BUY ( a lot of ) CROWNS. When all is said and done, whether a player will enjoy buying and decorating a Homestead is, of course, a matter of personal preference as to how they want to spend their time and effort -- or to spend their money instead, if they can afford to do that at all.

Last, but not least: allowing a player who does not own the ESO Imperial Edition to purchase an Imperial Homestead for Crowns makes those of us who bought it look like fools. So does the Imperial Crafting Motif which, although quite rare, is nonetheless available in the game. It enables a character to learn how to craft Imperial gear regardless of whether the player has bought and installed the ESO Imperial Edition.

When one of my characters found that motif, I could have sold it for 1,000,000 Gold Pieces. But I chose to have a Breton character learn it instead. Was that a foolish decision?

Enodoc wrote: »

SophiCat wrote: »

I think zenimax is missing out on a big chance to sell here. They could put a token amount of storage in the houses... say 20 or 30 slots, then sell more through the crown store.
Could be a big seller!

I'm also very very glad some things will be stacking...
any way we could stack up siege items like trebuchet???

It would be great if they would look into stacking siege again. @SophiCat for a bit of history, siege weapons used to stack up to 5, back at launch, but there was a bug where a part-used siege would stack with an unused siege, and then either all sieges of that type would lose some durability, or the part-used siege would be restored to full health. To get around this, they disabled siege stacking. I would suggest though, that if they just made it so that used sieges couldn't stack, and unused ones could, that would alleviate this issue.

that would work for me!